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Published Date: 14 March 2010
A CONSTRUCTION quango created by troubled former Glasgow council leader Steven Purcell more than doubled its wage bill for executives in just two years, Scotland on Sunday can reveal.
City Building – previously a department of the local authority – allowed salaries for senior managers, some closely associated with the Labour Party, to balloon after it became a much-feted "arms-length" company wholly owned by the public.

The fir
m, whose managing director is Willie Docherty, the husband of Glasgow Labour councillor Sadie Docherty, was last night facing calls for an inquiry into whether it provides good value for council taxpayers.

Scotland on Sunday has learned that City Building executives:

&149allowed the wage bill for senior staff to more than double from at least £730,000 in 2007 to at least £1.5m in 2009, in the first two full years of nominal independence from the council;

&149approved a vehicle leasing scheme that allowed executives to rent luxury cars, including Mercedes Benz, from the business;

&149spent nearly £20,000 in a single year on 18 dinner events, 11 of which were attended by Labour councillors;

•took a table at the cost of £2,000 at a Labour Party fundraiser, where it entertained senior Labour figures, including Scottish leader Iain Gray and his wife, despite long-standing conventions that public bodies do not make contributions to political parties.

•agreed a salary hike from at least £110,000 to at least £140,000 for Docherty.

City Building was set up in 2006 as an "arms-length" company to take over the work of the council's former building services department and offer its services beyond the city boundaries. In 2008-9, it turned over £179m worth of business, making it one of the biggest operators of its kind in Scotland.

But opposition politicians have questioned the company's close links to Labour. Three of the four councillors on its board are Labour appointees and the former general secretary of Scottish Labour, Lesley Quinn, was made a senior manager at the firm in 2008.

They are now criticising the escalating salary bill at a time when the economy was going through a severe downturn.

Bill Kidd, an SNP Glasgow MSP who sits on the Scottish Parliament's Audit Committee, said: "Some of these managers seem to be living high on the hog. It is high time that we determined whether we are getting best value from this organisation, especially when you look at the size of the management structure now and back when it was a council department."

John Mason, the SNP MP for Glasgow East, said: "This (the salary rises] was almost inevitable. What we are talking about here is a kind of semi-privatisation when a council department starts to act like a private company. What has also happened is that we have lost democratic control of the business."

The revelations about City Building come after the chief executive, chairman and vice-chairman of another Glasgow-based and Labour-dominated quango, Strathclyde Partnership for Transport, all left office last month after an expenses scandal.

In his initial resignation statement, Purcell cited stress over the SPT affair as part of his reasons for quitting.

While leader, Purcell had regularly feted City Building, praising its management and its projects. So too had Gordon Brown, the prime minister, and other very senior Labour figures. The company's "spin off" was seen as the flagship project of Purcell's drive to modernise public services in Glasgow, making a profit for the city council of £2.2m in the 2008-9 financial year.

The company ran one of Scotland's biggest programmes of construction apprenticeships, providing skills to hundreds of young men and women for the much-vaunted building boom in Glasgow before the economic crash of 2008.

But, according to papers lodged at Companies House, the company dramatically expanded its teams of highly paid employees during the boom years, after it became what council jargon described as an arms-length external organisation, or Aleo, in 2006.

In its first financial year as a separate company, City Building paid its 11 executives a total of at least £730,000. By 2008-9, the firm was paying 23 senior employees a total of at least £1.51m. The wage bill does not include the £20,000 paid to a Labour councillor, Gerry Leonard, a key ally of Steven Purcell, to chair the company's board.

Generous pay and perks for a growing army of managers have angered many of the company's 1,400 rank-and-file workers and several Labour insiders.

One party source, who asked not to be named, said: "We are furious that the wages for managers have risen so much in a council-owned business just as workers are being asked to accept pay freezes or redundancies."

The company has not been immune to the economic downturn, despite retaining lucrative public-sector contracts following its "spin-off" from the council. It is currently laying off some of its workers. It has also failed to keep on 70 of the apprentices it trained last year.

City Building, meanwhile, has defended its wage hikes. In internal papers obtained by Scotland on Sunday, senior executives told councillors they needed to raise salaries to compete with the private sector.

Other perks, including an allowance for car users and a in-house vehicle-leasing offer, were also defended as standard practice in the private sector.

City Building became free to offer its services beyond the borders of Glasgow after it became an Aleo. Most of its work, however, remains firmly in Glasgow; one of its biggest customers is Glasgow Housing Association, the council's former housing department.

The company, therefore, insists it requires good relations with the public sector in the west of Scotland. This, its internal documents explain, is why it has entertained numerous Labour politicians from the region.

The papers show City Building spent at least £19,497 on 18 hospitality events in the financial year 2008-9. It entertained Labour politicians at 11 of them, including the controversial Labour Party fundraiser in 2009 attended by Iain and Gill Gray.

According to the documents, City Building has never entertained any councillors or figures from other parties at these events.

Politicians who regularly featured on their guest lists included Alistair Watson, the Labour councillor who recently resigned as chairman of SPT, and senior figures in Purcell's Labour cabinet in Glasgow.

City Building last night denied that its wage bill for senior managers had doubled over the two years, saying that some of the people listed as "highly paid employees", those earning more than £50,000, were tradespersons.

It added that its executives had decided not to take any salary increase this year – and that they did not enjoy the share options or bonuses common in the industry.

The company also said that it had dealt with politicians of all parties as part of its lobbying on public procurement rules affecting its manufacturing division, Blind Craft, a factory which employees disabled people.

The company defended the City Building table at the Labour Party dinner, saying: "We are satisfied with our cross political party approach to this matter. City Building is a limited liability partnership and it has broken no rules whatsoever nor has it made any contribution to a political party."

City Building continues to entertain Labour figures. Its chairman, Leonard, has declared that he has attended nine events so far this financial year as a guest of the firm, including a Scottish Football Hall of Fame event sponsored by City Building in November.

Wined and dined

Here are three of the 11 events at which the council-owned City Building entertained Labour politicians in 2008-9.

• Labour Party annual fundraising dinner, Glasgow, 23 January, 2009. Iain Gray and his wife joined Michael McCann, a senior Labour councillor in South Lanarkshire, and Glasgow Labour stalwarts Gerry Leonard, Gordon Matheson, Stephen Curran and Aileen Colleran. Also present was City Building's then newly appointed business development manager, Lesley Quinn, the former general secretary of the Labour Party in Scotland. Total cost: £2,000.

• Scottish Football Association Hall of Fame, Glasgow, Sunday, 16 November, 2008. Company directors and managers entertained Glasgow Labour councillors Gerry Leonard, James Scanlon, Bob Winter, George Redmond, Frank Docherty, Gordon Matheson, George Ryan, Alistair Watson, Philip Braat, John McKenzie, Euan McLeod and Jim Todd. They also hosted Labour's leader and deputy leader from North Lanarkshire, Jim McCabe and Jim Smith. Total cost: £2,112 as part of sponsorship deal for event.

• Professional Footballers' Association Annual Dinner, 20 April, 2008. Guests, aside from five private-sector contractors and a council official, were made up of Labour councillors, including Allan Stewart, Gerry Leonard, Bob Winter, Jim Todd, Gordon Matheson, Paul Rooney, Alistair Watson, Euan McLeod, Irfan Rabbani and Archie Graham. Total cost: unknown – dinner was part of sponsorship deal for event.



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  • Last Updated: 13 March 2010 10:19 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
 
1

Fifi la Bonbon,

13/03/2010 23:06:52
Nothing wrong with paying people competitive salaries, and there's no criticism expressed either of the quality of the work carried out or the value for money.

But the councillors who accepted hospitality should know perfectly well that it looks terrible. There is no need for the company to wine and dine them and they deserve all the criticism that will fall upon them.
2

Cynicus Unbound,

14/03/2010 00:19:01
"Nothing wrong with paying people competitive salaries...."-#1 Fifi la Bonbon

That is PATHETIC. Competitive?

Who do these people compete WITH?

They are a bunch of ex-coumcil retreads, outsourced to their own outfit "City Building." The purpose of such outsourcing was to improve value for money for council taxpayers.

Instead, we have jollies and junketing that councillors themselves would envy. All provided, at public expense, by executives who double their salaries and engage in practices verging on corruption.

And guess what? They have party political affiliatiations. Quelle surprise!

FiFi the SLABber defends her own.

Again.
3

GenePoolDebtCrises,

14/03/2010 00:27:09
Can we afford another 5 years of these villians? Now I see why there is such hysteria over the cancellation of GARL and why Labour pushes some of the policies that it does! Corrupt and rotten to its very core!
4

Fifi la Bonbon,

14/03/2010 00:28:45
And that was just the first clause of the sentence! I guess it's for the market to decide if the salaries are competitive, or whether public service pay at that level is too low. Others who actually know the business can comment, I don't know enough about it. What I do observe is that nobody's having a go at the business over quality, delivering value for money, and indeed for delivering a profit.

The councillors have no excuse, though.
5

Loki,

14/03/2010 00:34:51
It's against Labour party rules not to have a required quorum of snouts at a trough and must include either Tony or Cherie Blair. Some pigs are more equal than others.
6

Nick Bruce,

Glasgow 14/03/2010 00:58:40
Er...Fi-Fi why are you hanging around that street corner?

Your doing WHAT with WHO ? You Sick *******

Here was me thinking you would be off invading France after Ms Sarkozys foul slur against you leader Gordon"Maggie"Brown. He accused the gormless one of being - wait for it - A SOCIALIST !!

But my main question to you my transexual "friend" is this; is there no policy implementations that THE GREAT PEOPLES PARTY have enacted over these dreadfull years which you disagree with? Trident replacement? Ilegal, bloody massacres and wars? Criminalising refugees and Asylum Seekers ? Letting the rich off paying tax? Multiplying child poverty? Failing to equipt British squadies. Do tell fi- fi!
7

Nick Bruce,

Glasgow 14/03/2010 01:08:37
And will that be Mr Arthur Scargill the MAN who never sold the Miners down the river? Or will it be some rancid - right, reactionary lunatic putting the boot into the poor, whilst attempting to besmirch the great mans name?
8

GenePoolDebtCrises,

14/03/2010 01:15:12
GCC certainly seems to have a lot of troubles ongoing now that Willie Haughey has also benefited greatly from his donations to the Labour Party in Scotland!

So is there a list of the great and the good who present at a certain recent infamous Labour Party fundraiser?
9

Handsome Scotsman,

Stirling 14/03/2010 01:22:14
Stop complaining folks, Glasgow voted Labour, and gets what it deserves.

"Work hard, hand over all your cash let us spend it frivolously ”

It’s the Labour Party Mantra. It’s in their manifesto.
10

Cynicus Unbound,

14/03/2010 01:22:52
"I guess it's for the market to decide if the salaries are competitive, or whether public service pay at that level is too low."-#4 Fifi la Bonbon

What market?

These people simply chaned their stationery and carried onas before -but at double their previous salaries. And to keep their former employers, now contractors, sweet they wined and dined SLAB movers and shakers and employed SLAB minions -all on the public purse.

And there is now a proposal to roll out the same model to parks and refuse collection. Glasgow City Council is clearly rotten and corrupt. The Scottish government should consider emergrncy action to rescue Glasgow's citizens from the local SLAB mafia with its links to gangsters and "businessmen" who donate peanuts to SLAB and are awrded fat contracts in return..
11

Huntly loon,

Aberdeenshire 14/03/2010 01:53:20
Labour made such a fuss over the lunch auctions of the SNP that never took place. And there was Labour using tax payers money to sell of lunches for labour party funds. The comment boards were flooded with labour activists over the Salmond lunches. Not a peep or a squeak from them now about the labour scandals in Glasgow. Well the proverbial is hitting the fan now and even the Scotsman sees the writing on the wall and is allowing comment on the topic.

12

GenePoolDebtCrises,

14/03/2010 01:58:11
The Labour Party make the Sicilian Mafia look like pussycats!
13

Handsome Scotsman,

Stirling 14/03/2010 02:08:54


So reading between the lines, as Fifi would do perhaps, we conclude that Iain Grey and his wife have “allegedly” been taking hard drugs at taxpayer’s expense.

Good on him I say. He could do with being a bit more interesting.
14

Evidenced Based Thinking Please,

14/03/2010 02:21:12
The Weegies like to vote for pimps, drug dealers, thugs, thieves, free-loaders and reprobates. They vote for elected officials that rob them blind whilst their failies die from lack of social provision.
Good on them - at least they get what they vote for.
15

Traquìr,

Alba 14/03/2010 02:21:54
#12 Excellent post from Cynicus. Glasgow absolutely needs to be saved from the Mafia link Scottish 'Labour' pig troughers. The Scottish Government really needs to stand up here for the sake of the people of Glasgow and bring these criminals to account. 'Scottish' Labour, particularly in the West of Scotland, is akin to a cancer which has been slowly been eating the life blood of Scots whilst spreading rapidly as it gorges itself on whatever sustenance it can acquire like some perpetual leech.
16

Traquìr,

Alba 14/03/2010 02:31:47
Interesting to note that one of the Pig Troughers who was being entertained by City Building was none other than one of the shamed Glasgow Councillor Alistair Watson who appears to have fallen to the 'Scottish' Labour phenomena of spontaneous 'ill-health' which is evidently on the verge of a swine-flu like pandemic proportions.

The trigger is invariably the threat of legal action.

Jim Divine caught out swindling expenses and surprise suprise "Expenses MP Jim Devine 'too sick for court'"
see - tinyurl.com/ykh3s2s

David Marshall caught out swindling expenses and guess what "David Marshall, the East Glasgow MP, will stand down because of ill-health"
see - tinyurl.com/6nsrau

"SPT boss Alistair Watson quits over expenses" and yet again "“Councillor Alistair Watson will be resigning on Monday from the board of SPT because of ill-health.” - although of course wealth enough to remain a Glasgow Labour councillor, clearly still a bit more dosh in the gravy train.
see - tinyurl.com/yjp247b

Ron Culley, the chief executive of SPT caught claiming extravagant expanses - any guess on next thing to happen :) Ron Culley "was quitting for health
reasons."
see - tinyurl.com/yd4wdbr

Now of course we have Steven Purcell, 'admitted cocaine user' ,getting caught out and of course what a shock he also resigns due to apparent 'ill-health'. Now perhaps this could be used to really thin down the Scottish jail over-population problem. Apparently all the criminals need to do to avoid jail when they are caught is to site stress/ill-health and they will be let off 'Scot-Free' or perhaps this only applies to 'Scottish' Labour politicians ?

Looks like the Scottish Government have more than enough evidence to impose emergency quarantine restrictions on these leeches and ultimately they should be brought to justice for their crimes against the Scottish people.

17

Traquìr,

Alba 14/03/2010 02:35:10
I must say congratulations to the Scotsman for again doing some real investigative journalism on the Purcell 'Scottish' Labour sleaze/mafia story. I remain pleasantly surprise at some realism and non-biased reporting making its way into the Scotsman.
18

Traquìr,

Alba 14/03/2010 02:50:16
It looks like there is more evidence of epidemic corruption with the decades old institution that is 'Scottish' Labour.

"Labour donor Willie Haughey in ‘cash for favours’ row"
"Haughey received £970,000 of support from SEG. It was part of a £17m compensation and relocation package for the headquarters of his Glasgow business, which was in the path of a planned motorway due to be built by the Scottish government, Glasgow city council and two other councils.

He owned two properties on the proposed route that he had bought for £1.3m. The independent valuer offered £7.4m for the properties"

"Haughey reportedly wanted Jack McConnell, then Scotland’s first minister, to intervene as negotiations with the valuer came to a standstill in December 2003.

That month Haughey donated £330,000 to Labour. The offer was subsequently raised to £13.3m."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article7061166.ece

Also interesting to note that in addition to cocaine mafia links and spontaneous ill-health Purcell also is linked to Haughey.

“You have to understand that you would not be the Labour leader at Glasgow city council without having the support of Haughey,” said one Labour source. “He bankrolls the party. Purcell was in hock to Haughey as the rest of Scottish Labour is.”

For the sake of Scotland 'Scottish' Labour needs to be euthanized.
19

Observant in Glasgow,

14/03/2010 05:51:17
1 You are away with the budgies hen.

City Building actually privide a really decent service to housing associations, you will be aware I know of what I speak, the service the tradesmen provide is genuinely second to none.

But they are going to be hoist on the petard of Labour corruption.

This is really sad.
20

Observant in Glasgow,

14/03/2010 05:55:50
2 They compete with people in the private sector and frankly they are a lot better.

But their organisation is going to be crucified because of the people who run it.

21

Jo'Burg Jock,

South Africa 14/03/2010 05:56:39


This must be part of what Eddie Barnes meant when he referred to Steven Purcell's "glittering political career".

Strange how the most corrupt politicians get a great press from this type of "writer".

22

Dùn Èideann Bully Wee,

14/03/2010 08:12:48
“Three of the four councillors on its board are Labour appointees and the former general secretary of Scottish Labour, Lesley Quinn, was made a senior manager at the firm in 2008.”

It is more than just a financial audit which is required although that would be a good start.

The whole management structure and working practices of this publicly owned organisation require to be examined, all the way from Board and senior management appointments to remuneration and marketing policies.

The apparent close links with the Labour Party must be scrutinized and any questions of sleaze and corruption laid to rest once and for all.
23

Thomas the Tank,

Edinburgh 14/03/2010 08:31:04
Seems quite a good arrangement to me - The Hootsmon on Sunday gets in about Weegie Labour Corruption while the Weegie Herald exposes the serial, municipal incompetence of the shambolic TIE, as they pour taxpayers money down the bottomless tramcar pit.
24

Sumlogic,

14/03/2010 09:59:01

Labore, its simple, they have let Scotland down for decades, have let the UK down the last decade all but bankrupting the place, have raised more taxes than any other party, borrowed more at the same time and still the gap between rich and poor is wider...FAILURE 101

Its no surprise now that once again, aside from the MP's currently charged with fraudulent expense activity that we have the ex Labore leader of one of the largest councils up to dodgy dealings, Tory Bliar was their archetype and leader, what else would they aspire to!

Its TIME alright, time to boot these useless, crooked Labore MP’s and MSP’s into the long grass so they can slip back under the stone the crawled from!

I was going to add, VOTE SNP (that’s a good start) but if you cant do that, vote for anyone aside from Labore, who have demonstrably failed the Scottish people, PERIOD!
25

Beachcomber,

Edinburgh 14/03/2010 10:00:17
More from today's Herald



Labour leader Gray dragged into Moffat controversy
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/politics/labour-leader-gray-dragged-into-moffat-controversy-1.1013194


Top donor: I’m no friend of Purcell’s
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/politics/top-donor-i-m-no-friend-of-purcell-s-1.1013142
26

Beachcomber,

Edinburgh 14/03/2010 10:06:34
2010: The mother of all elections (Independent)

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/2010-the-mother-of-all-elections-1921169.html
27

Soloman,

Stirling 14/03/2010 10:15:24


Top Donor. I'm no friend of Purcell's.

Sounds similar to Jim Devines's line. I'm an innocent man!

Our Westminster Masters will now have to allow the Darling Chancellor, to up the Scottish Budget, this will allow Audit Scotland to employ more staff.

Looks like they could be tied up for a while.


X Independence from Westminster X
28

Reclaimer,

14/03/2010 10:43:00
Now when will a journalist start investigating jobs for the Bhoys at the Commonwealth games scandal. Haughey, Purcell, wee Jack and all the other Bhoys looking after their own little bent club.

A more sectarian and shabby bunch of crooks you could ever hope to find in the one city.
29

Reclaimer,

14/03/2010 10:45:20
Look into the people who decided the games should go to Parkhead. Look into the favours they all receive from a certain football club. Ask yourself, is it coincidence they all have season tickets at the same football club?

Labour in Scotland is corrupt, sectarian and downright bent. I look forward to their demise.
30

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14/03/2010 10:45:40
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31

Sara Clare,

14/03/2010 10:46:11
How many of these councilors and labour members are linked to Celtic FC one way and another?

How many senior members of the Glasgow council who were linked to Celtic left in disgrace?

How do they get away with it?
32

Sara Clare,

14/03/2010 10:48:13
Commonwealth games? Lots of contracts eh? Lots of security jobs and so on... Lots of quangos....

Free dinners...

Junkets........

Expenses.......


HOW do they get away with it?

The Audit Commission must look at the Glasgow Council - lock stock and barrel.

Nepotism...

Cronyism...

Vomit inducing stuff.

33

Sara Clare,

14/03/2010 10:48:59
CFC = Corrupt Football Club

CFC = Cheating football Club
34

frank mcbride,

lusitania 14/03/2010 10:58:37
#Reclaimer & Sara Clare.

NuLabour/Ols Labour (WoS Division) are indiscriminately sectarian: it matters not to them how they use sectarianism.

SPT: trip by execs. to the Eufa Cup Final (Rangers supporters)

Martin, Reid, inter alia, official transport to Celtic Park.

NuLabour activists playing the Catholic card in Coatbridge, Glasgow S, NE and Central, whilst playing the orange card in Airdrie, Kilmanock and Govan.

NuLabour is amoral in its politics: it will play any card which it thinks will be beneficial to itself, especially those of race and religion.
35

Reclaimer,

14/03/2010 11:05:47
Frank

Don't kid yourself. Purcell, Haughey and the rest of the Bhoys are bigots to a man. They look out for each other and their club and religious cohorts.

Tell you what Frank, tell me where in GCC you'll find another clique, all belonging to the same religion, supporting the same football club, attending the same functions and handing out contracts to each other?

You know fine well what's going on, but refuse to admit a gang of corrupt bigots are ruling the roost over the rest of us.

Nepotism, bigotry, corruption, drugs, gangsterism, extortion and all under under the guise of GCC.
36

Reclaimer,

14/03/2010 11:09:07
I dare any journalist, to investigate the people behind the Commonwealth games decisions, to upgrade Celtic park and that partiocular area for the Commonwealth games.

Big surprise coming right up folks......they all have season books at which football club? That's right, the Bhoys looking after each other at our expense.

ASk where Haughey got his money from originally? Give you a clue?

A bank helped him out shall we say.
37

Hong Kong Fooey,

14/03/2010 11:15:51
Reclaimer...you sound like a bitter bluenose sonny...what's wrong?Are you jarred off that moonbeam hasn't delivered his masterplan of casinos and pie in the sky projects?
38

Observant in Glasgow,

14/03/2010 11:16:13
26 You are the one that is talking rubbish.

The people who actually provide the service provide a good one as anyone in the sector can tell you - that is why virtually all housing associations use them one way or the other.

I see no point in attacking the people who actually do the work as they do a good job.

The problem is the management and them using City Building as a vehicle for their own personal gain.

But as an organisation they do good work, they have good working conditions, they observe H&S, they pay good wages, and they provide a quality product.

It just seems a pity that they seem likely to get shafted due to the antics of the Labour Party - which is not the front line workers fault.
39

Reclaimer,

14/03/2010 11:20:30
Hong Kong

Nice to see you've taken bigotry and exported it the far east. So are you saying this lot are not corrupt and bigoted? Or are you just obsessed with Rangers and Murray?

As for being jarred, the only jars I'll be taking is when the treble comes up. How about you?

bwhahaha

Now let's get back to the corrupt bigots.
40

Reclaimer,

14/03/2010 11:23:36
Amazing how many Labour supporters deny, deflect and refuse to acknowledge these criminals have been up to no good for years now.

The list of corrupt and sectarian practices with Glasgow's Labour mob is endless and only the blind refuse to admit what's been going on.
41

Observant in Glasgow,

14/03/2010 11:23:47
26 You ought to be more careful. Alex Neil has ''feted it'' as well.

Try sticking to the facts.
42

wild wadi,

East Dunbartonshire 14/03/2010 11:24:34
As someone who has worked for a council DLO I can confirm that all this has been going on for decades.

This won't be news for all the women council workers who are pursing equal pay claims citing all the bonus payments made to men doing equal work.

The property maintenance DLO must be the worst for theft, fraud and misuse of council property.

The councillors know what's going on but have to turn a blind eye because it would make them look bad.
43

Barnacle Goose,

here for the winter 14/03/2010 11:32:09
The problem is that all politicians are rotten, or it would appear so.
44

Reclaimer,

14/03/2010 11:35:26
Willie Haughey knew he was on his way to the "very wealthy" status when he was awarded the contract to supply ASDA stores nationwide with refrigeration. The man who gave him the contract was ASDA Chief Executive Ian MacLeod, a Celtic supporter who was later to be given the Chief Executives job at Celtic Park - by Haughey and Co.

His business was ticking along nicely until Labour decided to award him £16 million of taxpayers money to relocate his premises to accomodate a motorway. Yes, £16 million. The projected him to multi-millionaire status. At the time, he was Labour's biggest private donor.
45

Hong Kong Fooey,

14/03/2010 11:43:22
Reclaimer...stop bleating like butter wouldn't melt.

You bang on about bigotry and yet ignore the masters of such things are the likes of you and your fellow knuckledraggers.

"up to our knees in f*nian blood" and all the rest of it trotted out week in week out....Listening to the Kilmarnock Rangers game in midweek...

"we are rangers super rangers no one likes us we don't care,we hate celtic f*nian bastirds"

Remember those in glass houses should not throw stones.

You bang on about bigotry as if it is a celtic/catholic thing well i have news for you sonnny Rangers and protestants are just as guilty.

Baaawwwwww
46

Hong Kong Fooey,

14/03/2010 11:44:56
Reclaimer is quite apt when the board at Lloyds finally pull the plug on scotlands shame fc and reclaim the land for something better instead.
47

Observant in Glasgow,

14/03/2010 11:51:48
There is a Celtic connection to all this. Willie Haughey, Willie Docherty, Labour Councillors too numerous to mention, meet up at Paradise all the time.

But the venue is irrelevant, in other circumstances and in other cities they would be meeting up at the Masonic Halls, or on a golf course, or wherever.

It is the behaviour which is condemnable, not their choice of what they have in common. They could have picked anything, the bond just happens to be Celtic. And screwing as much money out of the public purse for themselves as they possibly can.
48

Reclaimer,

14/03/2010 11:54:55
54 Oh dear! You really do sound very disturbed indeed. I know telling the truth is something which you may find very upsetting, but corrupt politicians and their practices must be exposed, regardless.

Now you stick to acting like the little bigot you obviously are and go back to playing with your lego. I'll discuss with the grown ups, what's been going on with our bent politicians.

You appear to be obsessed with Rangers Phooey, suppose you must be really hurting right now though - which is nice.

Now would you care to discuss the bigotry and corruption amongst Labour councillors and MP's or not?
49

Hong Kong Fooey,

14/03/2010 11:55:58
55 you'll struggle to convince relaimer on that one.The use of a masonic hall will send him into orbit.
50

Hong Kong Fooey,

14/03/2010 12:00:20
56.....You seemed to be obsessed with the B word...unless i am mistaken it is you that has meade the b word accusations.


Tell me little boy have you only just realised that politicians are corrupt?


For every corrupt labour politician who has a link to celtic that can be matched with a corrupt labour politician with a link to Rangers.

Face up to the facts sonny it's not just those of a papal persuasion that are corrupt the blue half are just as bad but of course you know that but cannot bring yourself to admit it.
51

wild wadi,

East Dunbartonshire 14/03/2010 12:02:19
#55 Observer,

Yes the venue is completely irrelevant.

I've been to meetings at Celtic Park, Murrayfield, Cameron House, Crieff Hydro, St. Andrews Old Course etc etc ...
52

Nick Bruce,

Glasgow 14/03/2010 12:03:16
And whilst we are at it; Lets cast a close eye over the activities of one Doctor Bridget McConnell, CEO of Culture and Sport Ltd, ( and incidently wife to Jack, the soon to be "enobeled" ex-First Minister)a "Charity" set up by Glasgow District Council. If you want to see an anarchiac, disfunctional orginisation then this is a glowing example of how things operated in the Soviet Union.
53

Hong Kong Fooey,

14/03/2010 12:03:57
well I am off to watch the garnd prix no doubt reclaimer the bigot will continue his drivel ranting session...

Borrow borrow.
54

Reclaimer,

14/03/2010 12:06:04
it wiszy us guv. You really do across as a complete dullard HK. Now are you going to condemn these corrupt bigots or not?

Is it right, these corrupt bigots chose their football club on the grounds of bigotry for the Commonwealth games or not?

Is it right these people are awarded illegaly?

Is it right Purcell befriends gangsters and druggies?

Not once have you condemned these corrupt bigots - not once HK. You must nearly be at the roof stage with the new lego model.

Dullard!
55

Reclaimer,

14/03/2010 12:07:19
HK, more important matters my old son. Off to watch a team going for a treble...bwhahaha

God you must be hurting.

How's the lego getting on?
56

Observant in Glasgow,

14/03/2010 12:13:09
Reclaimer you really do appear to be an idiot. You can condemn the activities of Steven Purcell et al without having a go at all Celtic fans, the same as I can condemn the actions of the City Building board without condemning the people who work for them and provide a good service.

Maybe qualifications like that are too complicated for you and you just like shouting a lot.

But whatever it is you come across as a fool.
57

Observant in Glasgow,

14/03/2010 12:17:42
60 We just need to look at amy of the Council's privatised departments to see trough swillers. Purcell had a mania for privatising, well perhaps now we can see why.

And why has he sold off so many municipal buildings and who profited from that? Not to mention all the land that has been sold off after demolitions.

This story has only just atarted.
58

Observant in Glasgow,

14/03/2010 12:18:33
started even.
59

Beachcomber,

Edinburgh 14/03/2010 12:23:38
Another wee Gem Jim Murphy - today's Express.

LABOUR BLOWS £1.4M ON JIM MURPHY MANOR

http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/162972/Labour-blows-1-4m-on-Jim-Murphy-manor-/
60

Reclaimer,

14/03/2010 12:24:46
Observant

Whgen I care what a dolt like you has to say, you'll be first to know.

Truth hurts!
61

TheUnionisBritish,

14/03/2010 12:37:23
Not what publicity Labour had planned so close to an election. I read in another paper yesterday that Labour are planning to privatise various services. Now who would have won the contracts I may ask? I don't need Mystic Meg to work that one out.
62

wild wadi,

East Dunbartonshire 14/03/2010 14:04:15
Observor,

Which council services are "privatised"?

There are some where the service is sub contracted but I know of none which are privatised.

The council still provides the service.
63

Panda the Bugger,

Shanghai Zoo 14/03/2010 14:06:44
A couple of points here regarding posts above.

Reclaimer, you are missing the open goal because of your bigotry. Divide and rule is the maxim that these troughers live by, day in day out, and you are queuing up, slavering at the thought of giving some other group a good kicking. They really do love you, especially when you pay them for the favour. Keep the eye on the ball, not the sideshow, An old magician's trick, sort of.

Murphy is classically playing the religious card, proddy versus cafflik, jew against muslim. Reserve the bile for him and his ilk.

Pucell is only the tip of the iceberg and we must not let distractions take the heat away from the yet to be revealed putrid details that the brave boys of The Scotsman are doggedly revealing, daily.

64

frank mcbride,

lusitania 14/03/2010 14:13:27
Reclaimer.

It seems that you're having difficulty in coming to terms with the fact that the Orange Order, in Scotland, is urging its members to support NuLabour candidates in the forthcoming Westminster election against any SNP challenge, to save the Union!!!

65

frank mcbride,

lusitania 14/03/2010 14:18:19
#71, Wild Wadi.

"There are some where the service is sub contracted but I know of none which are privatised."

I think that comment is rather semantic. It's like saying that Lloyds BG and RBS have been nationalised.

I know that you use different language in Kirkie, but come on!
66

Unelectedbythepeople,

UK 14/03/2010 14:43:14
Ben Wallace MP, Tory shadow spokesman for Scotland, says…

“Scotland’s biggest Labour donor is in receipt of millions of pounds of Labour-controlled government funds. It’s back to the old Labour days: it’s not what you know, it’s who you know.”
67

Alexander the Scot,

Michigan, U.S.A. 14/03/2010 14:43:37
#22 Observant in Glasgow
When you addressed FiFi as hen, please look at the posting #7 by Nick Bruce, he has it all summed up: FiFi is AM2, who really IS1, as "strange" as a three pound note.

Then looking at Traquir's postings #18 through #20 all I feel is great admiration for his writing. What we have there is someone who should be in the employ of the "Scotsman" simply to guide it along the path of honest journalism.

After all of the good stuff, the postings sink into Rangers and Celtic diatribe.
How sad, as long as that nonsense exists, Scotland will NEVER gain its independence.
68

Unelectedbythepeople,

UK 14/03/2010 14:45:44

The Sunday Times has been digging into Labour donor Willie Haughey’s Links to Cocaine City Councillor, which seem unhealthy. Scottish Labour’s biggest donor does a heck of a lot of profitable business with Labour controlled Glasgow City Council.

It smells.

The Scottish press skirted delicately round the issue of Purcell’s cocaine addiction. Strathclyde police say no official complaint has been received. Watch this space.
69

Observant in Glasgow,

14/03/2010 14:54:49
71 No they are privatised wadi - the staff are TUPE transferred across.

That means two things:

1. They are not subject to foi requests.
2. They are not accountable to Councillors except the ones who are appointed to the board.

70

Reclaimer,

14/03/2010 14:57:40
Simple truth of the matter is, we are being governed by the most corrupt politicians ever to grace our city and country. Countless newspapers and journalists have known what's going on, yet chose to ignore the thieving, in case it marred their careers.

What kind of society do we live in, when thieves, drug addicts and the downright corrupt, are allowed to continue unabated without so much as a whimper from the 4th estate?

Purcell's problems have been well known for a long time, and believe me, there's a lot more to come out very soon. Yet no one and I mean no one, has had the testicular fortitude to mention anything.

It appears corruption is to be accepted, as long as we don't upset the applecart.
71

Observant in Glasgow,

14/03/2010 15:01:43
The whole City Building being privatised thing kicked off in the days of Charlie Gordon - when he privatised the housing. Someone really needs to look into that, and how much money was spent on senior managers and consultants as opposed to tenants.

But - as with City Building I wouldn't use my suspicions about Labour manipulating privatisation to kick back money to their pals as an excuse to have a go at the people working for the organisations who were privatised, mainly against the workers will.
72

Alexander the Scot,

Michigan, U.S.A. 14/03/2010 15:03:36
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'll be commenting later.
In the meanwhile, another fine piece of writing by Reclaimer at #79.
Keep it up lads, you have the topic back on the rails again. Bravo!
73

Reclaimer,

14/03/2010 15:16:15
Taking Cocaine at work regardless of your position SHOULD be a sackable offence.

The fact that he is leader of the biggest council in Scotland in itself is serious enough to warrant further investigation.

Were certain people aware of his habit and did they use that knowledge to profit via contracts and grants?

Did he take cocaine in his place of work?

Who supplied it?

Those 3 questions are enough to see criminal charges brought against him if he did indeed do any of the above.
74

Dùn Èideann Bully Wee,

14/03/2010 15:17:00
68 Reclaimer

You give every impression of being part of the problems which beset our nation and certainly appear to have no input to the solution.

I hold no candle, literally or metaphorically for Celtic FC, however they are not at the root of the many problems which afflict the city of my birth and neither are their counterparts in the Govan area.

Until such times as we as a people can rise above the simplistic football tribalism espoused by Neanderthals such as you appear to represent, we are destined to remain as the cringing, forelock touching second class citizens you unionistas regard as voting fodder.
75

Reclaimer,

14/03/2010 15:34:35
83

I'm afraid nasty little Nats, don't really hold much sway with me, the racism is there for all to see. You're best shunned.

Is there one person with the personal integrity to come on here and ask for an inquiry into corruption, drug abuse, drug dealing, nepotism, bigotry and contracts awarded? Come on, one of you do gooders must have the baws to say something.

You like attacking me for telling the truth.

Tell you what, show me where I've lied or been mistaken? I'll wait right here for the part where I was wrong.

Was it the bigotry comments that upset the gum bleeders? Well they are bigots and you all know it.

Was it the drug taking? Purcell is a drug addict, so it can't be that.

Was it the corruption comments? Well, they are corrupt and time will prove this.

Was it the nepotism comments?

Oh! I know what it was, we are not allowed to mention the C word in the Republic of Schotland these days.
76

Observant in Glasgow,

14/03/2010 15:38:46
84 You really are a diddy. The SNP have asked for an enquiry only unlike you they have specified the points they want looked into, they have evidenced them, and they haven't come out with any sectarian nonsense in the process.

You are just bumping your gums and sound like you have a drink in you.

Best go lie down and stop making a fool of yourself.
77

Dùn Èideann Bully Wee,

14/03/2010 15:46:51
84 Reclaimer

“I'm afraid nasty little Nats, don't really hold much sway with me, the racism is there for all to see. You're best shunned “

Please point to the “racism” contained within my post.

Or is it simply the case that you do not quite understand what the word means?
78

GenePoolDebtCrises,

14/03/2010 15:51:00
re84

Obviously Dundee Utd coming back from 3-1 down has rattled your cage!

I think that you will find that several individuals on this forum have asked for an inquiry into the activities of the Labour group on GCC. The only ones not asking for such an inquiry are Labour hacks and you dont need need to be Feinian to be a Labour hack!Many of the Protestant persuasion have been similarly deluded by the labour Party over the years!
Many Unionists and Nationalists alike want an inquiry!
79

Front Street,

Grange Court 14/03/2010 15:57:53
The last Scottish election was lost by
Glasgow labour MSP's voting to scrap tolls on the Erskine Bridge and leaving those on the Tay and Forth bridges intact. The beginning of the end for
inequality in Scottish politics?

#84

"Is there one person with the personal integrity to come on here and ask for an inquiry into corruption, drug abuse, drug dealing, nepotism, bigotry and contracts awarded?"

Me! Lets start with the affairs of Scottish Enterprise.
80

wild wadi,

East Dunbartonshire 14/03/2010 15:59:46
#74/78

Re; Privatisation.

The fundamental difference is the relationship between the service user (us) and the service provider (the council).

Our contract is with the council as we pay our taxes to them.

Sub contracting is used to evade public liability but this has proven fruitless where the service is ultimately provided by the council.

Only if you paid for a service directly to the contractor and had the choice to use a different contractor then the service would be truly "privatised".
81

Hong Kong Fooey,

14/03/2010 16:30:56
Poor reclaimer still spouting away,great result today by dundee utd overcoming the forces of evil.


only a mere 24,000 bigots at the deathdome less of course the thousand good fans of dundee utd.

Baaaaawwwww
82

Hong Kong Fooey,

14/03/2010 16:40:23
I find it quite amusing that at least one individual on here must be foaming at the mouth whilst sitting at his keyboard burning out his brain on what to type.

I wonder if he takes a fit at the grass being green?

Sitting there in his lonely little world thinking the end is nigh for all things protestant,the whole world is against him.


83

Dùn Èideann Bully Wee,

14/03/2010 16:44:51
91 Hong Kong Fooey

Do not fall into the same trap.

Take a care.

We are above all that.
84

The Sheriff,

14/03/2010 16:46:46
I can see one or two lunatics have escaped from their carers.Why does any debate on these forums always come back to muppets from both sides of the bigoted divide? Tell me please i need to know.
85

Tennis C Williams,

14/03/2010 17:08:52
I think we can all agree on letting sleeping dogs lie here. The salaries doubled but very probably from a low starting point. New Labour is commited to improving the lot of Scottish families and this is just one positive example on that theme. We should be glad that such wage rises increase motivation and result in much improved services. I shall be voting for more of the same at coming General Election and expect a comfortable majority of sensible Britons to follow suit. Let's put an end to this envy culture which has been hanging over British politics for the last few years.
86

BK,

Cyberspace 14/03/2010 17:16:14
What about the Paddy's market scandal? Purcell was involved in that, so perhaps the Scotsman should apply its investigative expertise to that, especially the links between the developers and council. There's maybe more dirt to be dug up there.
87

wild wadi,

East Dunbartonshire 14/03/2010 18:47:10
#94

The salaries doubled on the back of a building boom.

Trouble with this is wages in the private sector go back down again.

As for the car leasing scam sorry scheme, it's worth a wage on it's own.
88

Col. Blimp IV*,

14/03/2010 18:54:14
#93 The Sheriff,

You could say that...God made them that way.

You could also say that in this divided and ruled country of ours, the opinion formers passed it off as mostly "harmless and good natured banter".

Making such poisonous thoughts and words somehow socially acceptable, indeed in some circles almost mandatory.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSYPecZI_AI
89

Beachcomber,

Edinburgh 14/03/2010 19:09:19
Fank Field..


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1257613/The-politician-guts-speak-immigration-Frank-Field-reveals-candid-opinion-future-Britain.html
90

Alexander the Scot,

Michigan, U.S.A. 14/03/2010 19:09:30
#93- The Sheriff.
"I can see one or two lunatics have escaped from their carers".
A funny line that gave me a good laugh; however it's sorrowful but true.
The last time I was back in Scotland, it was a sad sight to see fine old Churches either lying derelict or turned into furniture warehouses.

I saw hundreds pouring out of mosques, yet we have the clowns worrying about Rangers and Celtic.

You who claim to be Christian, start filling up your Churches and head toward independence for Scotland.
Can't you see that the same old trick has been pulled by London for centuries, and that is divide and conquer.

Catholics and Protestants, start heading down the same road to Independence, it can be Protestants to one side of the road and Catholics on the other, but for goodness sake start heading in the same direction toward being a Scottish Nation and stop being a Provence of England.

Please,please, for Heaven's sake, start having as much faith in yourselves as the Americans have in you.
91

Observant in Glasgow,

14/03/2010 19:10:52
96 The workers didn't see any wage rise apart from cost of living. It was the management wage bill that doubled.

Yes it wasn't privatised in the sense that it stopped doing the business that it did before, it just became unaccountable.
92

Beachcomber,

Edinburgh 14/03/2010 20:01:28
#99 Alexander the Scot

Blair courts controversial US pastor Rick Warren in bid to unite faiths

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/mar/14/tony-blair-faith-foundation-america
93

wild wadi,

East Dunbartonshire 14/03/2010 20:15:26
#100 Observant,

Yes I agree.

We used to have the car leasing scheme for management and what a scheme it was too.

A fully maintained beemer for fifty quid a month.

When the LibDems took over from Labour they put a stop to it but not before paying out ten grand a head in compo at the end of the leasing term.
94

Sgian Achlais,

14/03/2010 20:23:06
Reclaimer - They are corrupt because they are Labour and they are sticking together as they are culturally the same. But it is not because they are RC it is because they are faux socialists ZaNu Labour liars, cheats and thieves.

They also happen to be Celtic Supporters to a man and they have awarded a bucket load of money to people of a similar persuasion.

Unfortunately in Glasgow which Church you do not attend and what football team you support is the social dividing line.

Therefore there friends and family will also be Celtic and RC but this is nepotism in action not religious zealots in action.

95

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14/03/2010 20:26:49
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96

Hong Kong Fooey,

14/03/2010 20:46:20
104...I suggest you read the posts again sonny.I chortle with laughter and have a mild smile for you have called me a swear word ooooh am offended i truely am.

You must be related to reclaimer judging by the similar ingnorance you are showing so I'll say it again just for you.

At no time have I shown any support for the said purcell....in fact I couldn't care less about what he's done you see it is a trait of many who seek the limelight of politics to be corrupt no matter what their religion or football team or political party.

Take for example all of those involved in the expenses row...they are a mix of all the parties,some will be catholic some will be protestant and some will be of other religions and some of none.

Why not condemn the scum villains that stain our society and cause misery dealing in drugs and loan sharking thinking they are above the law?

It's called life sonny boy and to be honest as long as none of the above effect me and my life I couldn't give a t0ss.

Now run off and practice your flute..
97

Alexander the Scot,

Michigan, U.S.A. 14/03/2010 21:06:59
101-Beachcomber
Blair can court every weirdo under the Sun, it makes no difference to me.

Before coming to the United States, I belonged to the Orange Order, however even before coming to the United States I started delving into Scottish History, I discovered that William Prince of Orange, a man that my Ancestors went to join in the Netherlands was the same humpbacked wee freak that used the Catholic Campbells and Lindays to murder my Maternal Grandmother's Protestant Clan in Glen Coe on February 13Th 1692.
From then on, I was a Scot, and a Scot only.
I admire the Throne of England as much as I admire the Church of Rome.
Leaches both, who loved to dress in robes and crowns while they heaped misery upon the populace.
I'd like to borrow from Burns here.
"Everything rotten wrapped in gold".

My best friend is a retired U.S. Marine Colonel, now with U.S. Border Patrol. He is a Roman Catholic, we NEVER mention religion. He has told me that I am his brother because we are Scots, and that he would lay down his life for me.
98

Sgian Achlais,

14/03/2010 21:19:18
Hong Kong Phuckwitt,

You assume I am in a flute band because I think you are a phudd. How So?

I can assure I have no interest in either of the Glasgow diseases. I just wish it would go away so Scotland can move on without the football politics being a central part of our daily lives.

Half of you think you are British the other half think you are Irish still fighting over which form of worship of Christianity is right when neither applies any of the teachings in their behaviour.

West Central Scotland is one of the worlds finest examples of the power of tribal loyalty, bigotry and lies mixed with corruption, alcoholism and deprevation to provide voting fodder to political manipulation.

It is always referred to Scotland's Shame when it truth it is Glasgow's Shame and you people should be ashamed of the way you behave.

You are like the embarrassing extended family everyone just tolerates but nobody really likes.

How the decent people of Glasgow live amoungst the thuggery and stupidity of the football bigotary is amazing.

I reject both sides equally.

11 guys kicking a ball into a net, the colour of the shirt they wear or the way they pray is of no interest to me.

The quality of the character, the actions of the person and good a person does would be much more important measures of good people vs bad people.

Anyway I long ago tired of trying to convince any weegie of the folly of such actions. I just hope you do nor drag us through another century of having to put up with it.
99

wild wadi,

East Dunbartonshire 14/03/2010 21:35:23
Nepotism is a major problem in councils.

Staff morale is reduced at the thought of not getting promotion because you're not related to the bosses.

You just have to look at all the husband and wives who work for councils and don't get me started on apprentices who just suddenly appear without the council going through it's agreed recruitment procedures who's daddy or mummy is a boss or a councillor.
100

Sgian Achlais,

14/03/2010 21:48:08
wadi wadi,

I would love to see a report into the Glasgow Council's Employee's and Public Contract recipients being compared to the family tree of the movers and shakers of Glasgow Labour.


Then total up how much public money in expenses, contracts, salaries and jobs have gone into the same pockets.

Obviously when corrupt people are carefull they will have a Gray man in the middle to hide the corruption but in Glasgow they have long sinced stopped worrying about how it improper their dealing appear.

They are the great unwashed untouchables.
101

wild wadi,

East Dunbartonshire 14/03/2010 23:31:27
#109,

Yes, been there, got the tee shirt.

Yeah they've become so blase they don't give a kcfu any more.

It's as if they're all "chemical dependant".

Goodnight, Y'all.
102

Allan(handofgod137),

15/03/2010 12:07:48
So when are the serious organised crime squad going to start looking at the labour party in general?

 

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