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35,000 more cross bridge as tolls go



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Published Date: 28 February 2008
AN extra 35,000 drivers crossed the Forth Road Bridge in the week after tolls were abolished.
Figures from Forth Estuary Transport Authority (FETA), which runs the bridge, appeared to confirm predictions that removing the charges would increase traffic.But bridge officials said it was still too early to draw conclusions. The charge for northb
ound motorists was lifted on February 11.

The peak increase in traffic volume came the following Sunday when numbers were up 15 per cent.

But traffic levels fell back last week, when they were just three per cent higher than before the tolls were scrapped.

Neil Greig, of the Institute of Advanced Motorists' Motoring Trust, said rush hour on the bridge appeared to be expanding.

He said: "It is hard to comment on long-term trends with such a short-time sample and without figures for the 'real' rush hour.

"However, these figures do seem to suggest traffic is spreading out beyond peak hours.

"This is no surprise as traffic levels at peak times are at saturation levels, and even the temptation of a free crossing is unlikely to lead to drivers wanting to sit in a long queue."

The figures showed total traffic increased from 448,000 vehicles in the week before the tolls were abolished to 483,000 the following week, before falling back to 461,000 last week.

Bruce Young, of the Association of British Drivers, said: "People do not create journeys just because they no longer have to pay £1."

Tony Martin, Feta's convener, urged caution over the figures, saying it was too early to draw any conclusions.

"Weekend traffic has been higher than normal," he said. "But I would be wary of jumping to conclusions based on two weeks' data. Aside from the abolition of tolls, other factors such as school holidays, roadworks and the weather have all had an effect."

A spokeswoman for the Scottish Government said: "Early indications suggest removing tolls has helped improve traffic flow. It can take some time for traffic flows to settle into new patterns."

Last week, it emerged that the doomed tollbooth canopy is in line for a major design award – just as it is being torn down.

The structure, which cost more than £5 million to design and build, is being scrapped following the decision to drop the tolls.

Installed in 2006, there were calls to remove the booths after they were built closer to local homes than had been agreed.





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  • Last Updated: 28 February 2008 10:30 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Forth Bridges
 
1

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28/02/2008 12:08:16
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fresian,

edinburgh 28/02/2008 12:28:08
Look on the bright side Lawhead, If they had come 20 years ago, the city centre would have still been worth visiting.
3

Finbarr Saunders,

28/02/2008 12:32:51
# 1 - lavvyhead - Don't be fooled by those miserable, sleakit Fifers.

Most of them drove across the Forth Road Bridge into Edinburgh free of charge and them went back home via the Kincardine Bridge to avoid the toll!
4

sceptic,

28/02/2008 12:33:03
Instead of bleating about the removal of tolls FETA should get on with the job of ensuring effective utilisation of the bridge. The major problem with the bridge is down to their neglect of its proper maintenance while they concentrated on maximising profits while spending 80% of the revenues collecting tolls
5

jc is god,

28/02/2008 12:39:18
pull the goddam eyesore down there are enough cars in Edinburgh already
6

Bob 2,

28/02/2008 12:42:10
well said No 4

yip Imagine designing and building a bridge that spans the Firth of Forth (salty water below) and then be surprised that its main cables are rusting.

Much has been made of the number of vehicles crossing.

But the Rusting cables must be put down to bad design
and mainly Lack of maintenance.

Like a Car that get its Annual MOT, it essential bits are checked to ensure that the car is roadworthy...yet the Bridge cables were only checked in the last 2 to 3 years.
7

Bob 2,

28/02/2008 12:44:24
the increase...nothing to do with some of the local school holidays that started w/c 11 Feb?
8

D Napier,

28/02/2008 13:23:48
#4 Sceptic. Interesting statement - I assume you have some sort of proof that the bridge has suffered from neglect.

Admittedly there are problems with the main cables but this is common to virtually all long span suspension bridges worldwide to some extent or another. At least FETA are trying to do somthing about this problem and not just burying their heads in the sand.

9

subrosa,

28/02/2008 13:26:03
Bruce Young, of the Association of British Drivers, said: "People do not create journeys just because they no longer have to pay £1."


I agree with him. What may be happening is that people from Fife are using it rather than the Kincardine Bridge thinking the queues will be less. Be a good idea if they did a flow test on the Kincardine Bridge then the full traffic could be compared.
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28/02/2008 13:27:55
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washupliquid,

28/02/2008 13:49:32
Can anyone say if alternative jobs were made available to the staff who worked the toll-booths or was their position not considered ?.
12

Duncan in Edinburgh,

28/02/2008 14:45:52
So, exactly as predicted. Shame when facts get in the way of political dogma, innit.
13

alex paterson,

embra 28/02/2008 15:11:29
#12
Well said Duncan you have hit the nail on the head.
14

Arrow,

edinburgh 28/02/2008 15:37:59
how does #13 know that #12 is a Nail? having tried to cross the Forth last weekend to visit friends in Dollar and returning by Kincardine Bridge i can safely say that the route via Stirling is faster!!!!
i really think that the school holidays and Edinburgh folk returning from their holiday cottages up the number of cars. the figures appear to demonstrate that there was a peak and that conincided with holidays and a big screw up on Kincardine Br works.
15

Angus R,

28/02/2008 16:14:46
#11 - originally they were to be offered jobs with Edinburgh Council but most were found to be over qualified.
16

Mr Fuzzy,

Edinburgh 28/02/2008 17:40:49
#9
A similar thing happened in the Bay Area in California.
http://bata.mtc.ca.gov/bridges/index.htm

One time the authorities put up the toll fees on one bridge. The next day the traffic flow was below usual while the others were congested, as commuters selected the cheapest route out of principle. The authorities put the toll fees up on the other bridges and everything went back to normal.
17

E300,

tomich 28/02/2008 18:37:27
8 D Napier,

"#4 Sceptic. Interesting statement - I assume you have some sort of proof that the bridge has suffered from neglect"

It is hardly rocket science! My 7 year old son insists of keeping his bike in the shed because he says "it might rust if left outside"
No other major suspension bridge in the world has been allowed to deteriorate to the extent of requiring closure within 50 years of its opening, as seems likely with the Forth Bridge. Even the Golden Gate Bridge which operates frequently bathed in salt laden Pacific fogs has no plans for closure after 71 years of operation.
18

washupliquid,

Edinburgh 28/02/2008 19:44:42
Angus R an amusing answer but there was a serious side to my question.If the Scottish Govt. care for the workers as they say they do why did they desroy these jobs ?.
19

Duncan in Edinburgh,

28/02/2008 20:17:35
#17 This one just keeps coming up. The Golden Gate has had tens of millions spent on essential repairs and maintenance over the past 20 years or so, and is now in deed of hundreds of millions of pounds of remedial engineering work. People seem to think it is the perfect bridge; it ain't.
20

D Napier,

28/02/2008 20:32:49
#11. 33 staff have been made redundant.

#17. Oh how wrong you are. Major corrosion of the main cables has been found in bridges as young as 10 years old.

Yet again someone comes back with the old chestnut of the Golden Gate Bridge. This is a bridge which was built to factors of safety far greater than those adopted on the Forth Road Bridge, as was the case at that time.

It is impossible to directly compare the two bridges as they are totally different. The main Span on the Golden Gte is 1280m against 1006m at Forth, yet the main cables at Golden Gate are almost 50% larger in diameter than is Scottish cousin.

The main cables at Golden Gate are just starting to undergo a 3 year restoration at an extimated cost of $30million.
21

PhredBear,

Linlithgow 29/02/2008 00:17:17
No. 11 - (Can anyone say if alternative jobs were made available to the staff who worked the toll-booths or was their position not considered ?.)

You sound like the STASI Border Guards in Berlin whinging about their pension rights while the wall was tumbling down around them.
22

COLINTON.MAINS,

Oakville Ontario 29/02/2008 03:47:39
THE GOLDEN GATE BRIDGE HAS A CREW OFF IRON.WORKERS LOOKING AFTER IT MOST OFF THE TIME /IRON.WORKER
23

D Napier,

29/02/2008 09:17:15
#22. The Forth Bridge has a team of engineers, riggers and painters looking after it full time!!!!

 

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