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Climate change clues buried in ice 1.2m years old



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Published Date: 15 October 2008
SCIENTISTS will embark on the most ambitious Antarctic conservation mission in history this month to find the planet's oldest ice and unravel the mysteries of climate change.
A team of scientists, engineers and pilots from Britain, the US, Germany, Australia, China and Japan will join forces. They will spend two-and-a-half months battling the world's most extreme conditions at high altitudes, in temperatures as low as -
40C.

They will try to map 1.2 million-year-old ice in the sub-glacial Gamburtsev mountains – a range the size of the French Alps buried two miles under an ice sheet.

The British expedition leader, Dr Fausto Ferraccioli, said the buried ice should contain a "detailed record'' of climate change over the past millenniums.

Dr Ferraccioli, a geophysicist of the British Antarctic Survey (BAS), said: "This is an exciting and challenging project. It is a bit like preparing to go to Mars.

"Scientists from six countries are working together to do the unthinkable – to explore the deep interior of east Antarctica, one of the planet's last frontier regions.

"For two-and-a-half months, our teams will pool their resources and expertise to survey mountains the size of the Alps buried under the ice that currently defy any reasonable geological explanation.

"At the same time, we will hunt for ice that is more than 1.2 million years old. Locked in this ice is a detailed record of past climate change that will assist in making predictions for our future."

The Gamburtsev mountains are believed to be the birthplace of the vast East Antarctic Ice Sheet, which now covers much of the continent.

Scientists on the International Polar Year project hope to discover how the mountains were formed, and suitable locations for future ice-core drilling.

Operating from two remote field camps, the teams will use state-of-the-art technologies, including ice-penetrating radar, two survey aircraft, gravimeters and magnetic sensors.

The teams aim to complete the first geophysical survey to map the mysterious landscape that lies beneath the ice sheet.

Professor Nicholas Owens, the director of the BAS, said: "In a changing world, with so much uncertainty about our future, it is crucial that we find answers to fundamental questions about our Earth.''

The International Polar Year 2007-8, which is running the mission, is the biggest co-ordinated international scientific effort for 50 years. It features more than 200 projects, involving 50,000 people from more than 60 countries.

FACT BOX

• THE International Polar Year (IPY) is a large scientific programme focused on the Arctic and the Antarctic from March 2007 to March 2009.

• IPY, organised through the International Council for Science and the World Meteorological Organisation, is actually the fourth polar year, following those in 1882-3, 1932-3, and 1957-8.

• In order to have full and equal coverage of both the Arctic and the Antarctic, IPY 2007-8 covers two full annual cycles from March 2007 to March 2009.

• It will involve more than 200 projects, with thousands of scientists from over 60 nations examining a wide range of physical, biological and social research topics.



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  • Last Updated: 14 October 2008 9:58 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Climate change
 
1

Ian12,

A warming planet 15/10/2008 00:57:06
What, no rabid climate deniers rushing to point out that 'the weather always changes' and 'carbon is perfectly natural in the atmosphere' and other such bizarre conspiracies?

Not up to your usual standard, boys! Could it be that you've finally accepted the facts? Surely not!
2

Mad Jock,

East Lothian 15/10/2008 02:26:02
#1: Depending on who is funding the expedition, and depending on whether there are any pre-concieved ideas or agendas, one would hope that we can get some clarification on the matter. I suspect that individual funding would depend on whether the scientist, or their departments already subscibe to the man made climate change theory, and that any naysayers will be prevented from going. That being the case, the results will, of ourse, be slanted towards the man mad climate change argument.
If the results are indeed presented fairly and in an unbiased manner, I am sure that we will see rising and falling CO2 levels and rising and falling temperatures over the millenia. Probably well before the industrial revolution.
Could it be that that the man made climate change propogandists might apologise to us "deniers" if they are proven wrong, or is that too much to expect?
3

Slioch,

Scottish Highlands 15/10/2008 09:28:07
#2 Mad Jock said, "I am sure that we will see rising and falling CO2 levels and rising and falling temperatures over the millenia. Probably well before the industrial revolution."

Such information already exists, going back to over 800,000 years. One of the aims of the present expedition is to find ice going back a further 400,000 years.
The following graph shows temperature (proxy) and CO2 going back about 650,000 years. Notice where the present CO2 is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Co2-temperature-plot.svg
4

GlenB,

15/10/2008 10:12:23
#2
"Could it be that the man made climate change propogandists might apologise to us "deniers" if they are proven wrong, or is that too much to expect?"

That is too much to expect history shows this to be true.

After 150 years of Darwin's theory the majority of scientists now believe it as fact on the basis of evidence that has always been interpreted as if the theory was true. If they only look for proof they will always find it. The contrary evidence will be ignored or they will say that further research will prove it true - in time.

The same goes for climate change and anyone who dares question it will be labelled as anti-science, a pseudoscientist, stupid and ignorant.
5

eyeswide,

15/10/2008 10:18:56
I thought the science was settled? "the mysteries of climate change" - I need time for this to sink in.


They are studying the wrong end.

CO2 down there fluctuates around the 1ppmv level.

Up at the "hot" end it can be 18ppmv. So much for a "well mixed gas".



6

seanie,

15/10/2008 10:26:47
It's not absolutely true that everyone who questions climate change is "anti-science, a pseudoscientist, stupid and ignorant."

There just happens to be a very strong corrleation.

:)
7

Slioch,

Scottish Highlands 15/10/2008 10:28:52
#5 eyeswide

"CO2 down there fluctuates around the 1ppmv level.

Up at the "hot" end it can be 18ppmv. So much for a "well mixed gas"."

What on Earth, (or perhaps it's Mars), are you on about?
8

Lianachan,

Highlands 15/10/2008 11:40:18
#6 I don't think anybody with at least half a brain questions climate change in itself, just the reasons for and background of it.
9

seanie,

15/10/2008 12:11:42
eyeswider, still betting that this year's CET will average "2 degrees Centigrade colder" than last year?

Last I looked the difference was running at about 0.2 degrees.

Mind you, being out by a factor of 10 would be positively accurate by your standards.
10

Yocal,

15/10/2008 12:43:53
#8

Well what has happened is the people that once said temperatures aren't going up (eg. climate change deniers) have split into three groups:

Group1 say temperatures are still not going up.
Group2 say yes temperatures are going up but they are just about to come down, so we aren't causing it.
Group3 say yes they are going up but not because of human actions.

The point being that instead of having a consistent story they are happy to go with the flow and still remain sceptic. Very scientific and committed (not), heh, heh...
11

Yocal,

15/10/2008 12:51:42
Following on from my last comment:

...so what we have is many different climate change sceptic groups which "scientifically" have conflicting ideas about what is happening (a scattered, un-targeted approach).

So really there is not one big sceptic/denier group. They are really just as fundamentally different from each other as they are to mainstream anthropogenic climate science.
12

Selgovae,

18/10/2008 09:57:26
#4 GlenB 'The contrary evidence will be ignored"

Could you provide some examples of evidence that are contrary to evolution theory?
13

Richard Lionheart,

19/10/2008 13:28:58
Carbon trading is a very profitable business.

Created out of nothing in just a few years it is now worth billions and in a few years when all the numbskulls in world have signed up to carbon trading schemes it will be worth trillions. Who owns these carbon trading companies, Al Gore to name but one.

Clever man.

 

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