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Scotland should be reaping the harvest of the seas



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Published Date: 29 October 2007
WHAT price the bounty of Scotland's seas? If you were to watch dolphins leap in the waters of the Moray Firth, the answer, as the advert goes, would be: priceless. Yet if it were part of a two-hour round trip from Cromarty with EcoVentures, the more realistic answer would be £20 per adult.
Putting an actual cash figure on the annual benefits we derive from being wrapped on three sides by the watery patchwork quilt of the Irish Sea, the Atlantic Ocean and the North Sea is exceedingly difficult. However, we do know that Britain enjoys an
annual benefit from its island status of £69 billion. The report, A New Analysis of Marine-Related Activities in the UK Economy with Supporting Science and Technology, painstakingly unravelled the nation's maritime- related economy to come to a figure that is the equivalent of £1,254 for every man, woman and child in Britain.

The question is: what is Scotland's share? As we are roughly 10 per cent of the population, is it £6.9 billion? Or, since our nation, with more than 790 islands, accounts for over 60 per cent of Britain's coastline, should it be £41 billion?

In the opinion of Dr David Pugh, one of the report's authors, it should be more than £6.9 billion. "To take a percentage based on population would in my view give too low a figure for Scotland," he says. "This is because Scotland is the major player in the offshore oil industry, which in turn is by far the biggest contributor to the marine economy of the UK. Also, Scotland is a bigger than 10 per cent player in the fishing industry. Almost all the fish farming in the UK is based in Scottish waters."

Well, the correct answer, at least according to Evan Williams and his team at the Scottish Environment Protection Agency, is around £14 billion, or the equivalent of our national waters writing an annual cheque for £7,000 to every Scot.

However, this figure is calculated by a different method, in which a cash value is attached to 17 different types of services provided by an eco-system - such as "climate regulation", "nutrient cycling", and "pollination" - as well as more conventional quantifiable worths such as "food production" and "raw materials".

To explain how Scotland benefits from the sea, let's go on a journey that begins at the shoreline at the Faslane nuclear submarine base in the Holy Loch. The deep-water lochs and their easy access to the Atlantic have long attracted the military and, regardless of the controversy, they provide an annual income of £400-£500 million as well as securing 10,000-12,000 jobs.

Scotland's shipyards may have declined but their slipways still account for a turnover of £510 million and support 5,300 jobs, while 5.5 million people pass through our ports which also handle 90 million tonnes of freight, of which 67 million are exports.

Around 50 per cent of the foreshore and the beds of tidal rivers, as well as almost all the seabed out to the 12-mile limit - when the Scottish Government's control passes to the British government - belongs to the Crown Estate Scotland.

Last year it earned £3.7 million in rental income from ports, marinas and ferry terminals as well as rent from companies whose pipelines and cables lie on the seabed. The UK market for underwater telecommunications is £497 million. We should pause here in remembrance of the seaweed industry, which collapsed in the 1980s, and ponder a report that said the Western Isles had the potential annually to harvest 37,000 tonnes, which, at £200 per tonne, would total £7.4 million and trump Ireland's £5 million a year, if only a buyer could be found.

The bucket-and-spade brigade may no longer flock to Ayr or Portobello, but Scotland's coastline remains a powerful draw. Britain benefits by £17 billion in tourism because of its island status, a figure which could translate to £1.7 billion for Scotland.

As a spokesman for VisitScotland explained: "Our scenic and accessible coastline attracts many visitors interested in a range of activities from walking or cycling to sailing or playing our famous links golf courses."

If we were now to take to the waters it would be by ferry, cruise ship or leisure craft. While Scotland would benefit from less than 10 per cent of the £1.4 billion turnover Britain enjoys from cruise liners, given our myriad islands, our share of the £889 million earned annually from leisure crafts could be £89 million or more.

While the Crown Estate owns the sea bed, what swims in the water column above, or lies thousands of feet below, is a different matter. The bounty provided by Scotland's fishing grounds may be a constant source of debate - are we taking too much or too little? - but it is a bounty nonetheless. The most lucrative creature caught by Scottish fisherman is the langoustine - last year £89 million-worth was snared in nets. Mackerel follows with fish worth £50 million caught, and haddock (£43 million) comes third. The Scottish fishing industry last year landed £323 million worth of fish and continues to employ around 6,000 fisherman with 7-8,000 involved in fish processing.

Bertie Armstrong, chief executive of the Scottish Fisherman's Federation, said: "The financial values of harvested seafood illustrate the importance of the Scottish fishing industry to the communities which support it. In most cases, fishing is a mainstay occupation and cannot easily be replaced. But here is the good bit: unlike some other marine resource extraction, this one is entirely renewable. You might think from the general thrust of the media coverage that that was not the case, but if you do, you have been misled. The stocks targeted by the Scottish industry are either harvested sustainably or are an active part of a programme of recovery."

Unfortunately, the mother lode of Scotland and Britain's sea wealth, the gas and oil fields below the seabed, are not renewable. Yet what was famously described by Harold Wilson as God's last chance for the British, continues to produce large quantities of oil and gas. Last year oil worth £20.6 billion was extracted from the UK-controlled sector of the North Sea, as well as £12.2 billion worth of gas. Yet that which remains proves more difficult or costly to extract.

We have toured the shoreline, the surface, beneath the waves and even beneath the sea bed, but what of the water itself? Well, that truly is priceless. The temperate nature of Scotland is partly as a result of the conveyor belt of warm waters carried up from the Caribbean and were this to disappear, we could expect winter temperatures to be similar to Moscow's.

Then there is the energy contained in the waves which could yet prove an even bigger, and more lasting, benefit to Scotland than oil and gas. Plans are already in place to harvest this energy in wave farms

As Pugh, said, despite the sea's huge contribution to our economy, it is routinely ignored: "Most people don't think much about the sea. Even our politicians need reminding. Fish don't vote!"

Act now before it's too late


THE Scotsman has launched a campaign to establish marine “reserves” to help save our sealife from destruction.

Pressures on Scottish waters are increasing, with surges in the renewable energy industry, fish farming and marine tourism adding to other demands made by the oil industry, traditional fishing activities and developments along the coasts.

All this comes at a time when climate change is wreaking havoc among sealife in Scotland’s waters.

Fundamental changes to populations of plankton – the basic building block of all marine life – have caused shockwaves throughout the food chain.

Until recently, our politicians had appeared to ignore the growing signs of trouble or had put their faith on a mish-mash of some 85 pieces of legislation covering Scotland’s seas, much of it outdated and with different aims in mind.

The Scotsman is calling on the Holyrood and Westminster parliaments to create a network of reserves or “ marine protected areas” around the coast designed to safeguard important areas of the sea.

In many cases, fishing and other activities should be able to continue. It is more than possible to use the seas while avoiding the wanton destruction of marine life or areas rich in biodiversity.

A single marine management organisation for Scotland should also be set up to oversea activity in the sea.

At present, Scotland is only responsible for wildlife in a strip of sea 12 nautical miles wide around its coast, with the UK government controlling waters from 12 to 200 miles.

This arbitrary division makes no sense and The Scotsman believes it is time for “ devolution of the seas”, giving control of conservation to the Scottish Government out to the international waters.

Maintaining the health and welfare of our seas is crucial to the Scottish economy as a whole.

It has been estimated that the value of the “ services” provided by Scotland's marine environment amounts to some £ 14 billion – about a fifth of Scotland's gross domestic product.

It may be out of sight beneath the waves, but it should not be out of mind.



The full article contains 1560 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 29 October 2007 1:13 AM
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1

a proud doonhamer,

29/10/2007 02:29:03

what amount of value of Scottish waters should be of benefit to Scotland?

ALL OF IT!!

2

Guga II,

Rockall 29/10/2007 02:33:03

#1 You've got it in one. Most of our money goes towards subsidising the English; which is why the Westminster government and it's unionist lackeys and running dogs are so anxious to hang on to Scotland.

3

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29/10/2007 04:27:30
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4

49th State,

In the dog house again 29/10/2007 05:40:00

If you want your seas, you must inforce your right to have them. What are South American fishing vessels doing in your territorial waters?

We've taken a few Asian and Russain vessels here in Alaska. You need to do the same.

5

A Better Way,

29/10/2007 06:21:30

Strange how we are all told continously that we are incompetant and unable to run our own country, We are then told by Blair and Brown that we will be charged taxes of 6000 quid extra for each man & woman in Scotland. Still havent seen it yet, and by the sound of the interest in Companies and investment in Scotland we will have more than enough to put quite a bit away for the future. I wouldnt advise lending it to Brown though, he is borrowing 10 billion a month to keep the zoo on top.

Surely people will wake up a bit quicker than they did for 50 years of Labour. Its time for us to start thinking about the next few generations. Its Time for us to follow Alex Salmonds advice and stop picking fights with other countries. Its Time for Scotland to be a neutral countrie that helps to mediate Peace in our Time. We owe it to the Scottish People of now and we definately want to leave our bairns a brighter more safe future.

6

Watson,

Irvine 29/10/2007 06:28:37

Trust this rag to promote Scotland's interests yet support a foreign power. You can't do both.

7

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Ontario 29/10/2007 06:29:08

I heartily agree with Guga II and the others.

Scotland should reap the rewards of her bounteous sea resources and let the English pay through the nose for any of your Scottish natural heritage.

Since Canada has one of the world's longest coastlines - one of my first summer jobs during university was working for the Nautical Geodesy Section of the then Energy, Mines and Resources Dept - I know just how much land we have bordering on our endless coastlines.

And why should we be exploited by rogue Spanish trawlers and other countries (Japan and Russian are suspects). They are Canada's resources and these greedy, unprincipled fleets have depleted our cod stocks and will not follow sea-resource management because the market is so big in Spain, Portugal, Japan and Russia.

You Scots probably have the same problem and if these outlaws would follow the law there would be plenty for everybody in the future and Scotland can reap the rewards of her bountiful natural marine resources.

8

Boy Wonder,

29/10/2007 06:44:50

"Scotland should be reaping the harvest of the seas."

Absolutely agree ... in which case, why doesn't this article say very much about the offshore oil and gas industries? Could it be because, this unionist rag believes those two "items" are not "devolved" issues?? That they're British, rather than Scottish?

9

David MacVicar,

web 29/10/2007 07:52:37

Better Title:

Britain raping the harvest of Scotlands Seas.

10

happy english,

kent 29/10/2007 08:02:34

Scotland subsidising England do not make me laugh, i live in the south east of England and it is a FACT that a huge amount of our taxes go to Scotland. The English want nothing more then to get rid of Scotland you are a drain on the English. All you ever bleat about is your oil, England should have the oil as well considering how much we have to subside you.

11

Big Red,

Eberdeen 29/10/2007 08:17:58

#10

You've obviously confused posting opinion on this newspaper with your normal rants at 'racists-r-us.com'.

Why don't you toddle back there and join the rest of the ill-informed and narrow minded bigots ?
Oh, and on the way don't forget to pick up a copy of the Daily Mail.

12

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29/10/2007 08:27:52
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13

happy english,

kent 29/10/2007 08:37:02

#11 Typical response. You are a JOKE the truth hurts and I am not ill-informed the English DO subside the Scottish so much that we prop up your nhs and schools, so I would advise you to go and use some of that money and get an education. I am off to work now to earn some money so I can pay my taxes and send some to Scotland. By the way the Daily Mail is a good newspaper and I have it delivered to my home so I do not have to pick it up.

14

happy english,

kent 29/10/2007 08:44:18

#12 'Son ' exuse me I am a female, enjoyed the typical feeble Scottish rant though will laugh all the way driving to work .

15

Alastair the First,

29/10/2007 08:59:59

!3: This poster has to be a wind-up. People like her don't really exist, do they?

16

mina,

Glasgow 29/10/2007 09:16:20

#10 I believe Alex Salmond is advocating that England should Govern their own affairs, don't you think you should be on here thanking him?
Keep going with your views, I would hope that you are writing to your mp stating your views, in fact why don't you come up here and have a public forum and we can clarify some of your ill informed points you have made.
On your break at work this morning, I suggest you think about spelling, most primary children would know how to spell, check your posts.

17

Spotter,

29/10/2007 09:17:35

who supports norway iceland ireland
no one themselves
no one in kent thinks about it
same will happen for scotland one day :-)

18

Tweedmouth,

29/10/2007 10:29:27

#12 - Archie of Gourock

Your post is truly illuminating in how it reveals the anti- English racism and xenophobia that is the very bedrock of Scottish Nationalism. It is a fundamentally racist and bigoted ideology which projects all of Scotland's failures - economic, social, moral and cultural - onto its neighbours. This is rabble rousing populism in EXACTLY the same way that Hitler projected the Jews as the root-cause of all Germany's ills. The Jews had taken all of Germany's money, they had taken all the best jobs, they had stolen the wealth of the German people. The same is true of the Serbian nationalists hatred of muslims in Kosovo; the Tutsi nationalists hatred of Hutus in Ruanda - and a dozen other 'nationalisms' that one could mention.

Your xenophobic rant is so uneducated and illogical that it is hardly worth trying - but just a few points. Scotland is not a state; as such it holds no territory, commands no army, navy or airforce. As such there has never been any such thing as 'Scotland's Oil'. The oil deposits in the North Sea lie within the United Kingdom's territorial waters, asserted and defended by the British Navy and Royal Airforce. The funds generated from taxaing that oil have been spent for the benefit of the entire United Kingodom - including Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and England. Scotland has received far more than its fair share of UK taxation income via the Barnett formula - which will soon be rectified. The North Sea oil industry may be Scottish based but it is no more 'Scottish' than the oil it has exploited; it is American, Dutch, Norwegian and UK/ multinational.

The fishing resources which you claim as 'Scottish' are in fact UK resources in UK waters. But more profoundly they are in fact European resources - and belong to the EU - which is largely responsible for allowing Danes,Spanish and French to destroy them.

So thank you for revealing the slavering, racist beast that is normally kept well-hidden u

19

Dubbie,

Here 29/10/2007 10:38:11

#12, - what a load of racist twaddle. Whatever your viewpoints on English / British Government your post is complete drivel to insult an entire people! Do you not think that the average person in England just lives their daily life like you? I can't believe you're that worked up over politics - you must be lacking a lot in your personal life? (What the hell have English sportsmen got to do with Scottish independence?) That's just plain racism.

As for raped your nation? You Scots were bankrupt at the time of the Union - you had nothing - you were bailed out :-) (and sold out by a few of your fellow Countrymen)

Are you also so naive to think that if you full independence the money would be shared out amongst the people?? You must think life is a fairy tale! Nothing would change - a corrupt few would rule you as they do now. You are living in a globalised planet - Corporations dictate everything. Scotland will never be independent - it's needs foreign investment, workers, tourists. Get real..

20

Fairfax,

29/10/2007 10:59:39

Archie Gourock (12): "Your country is shored up by Scottish money and Scottish leadership."

However, if Scottish leadership shores up the UK, then Scots bear some responsibility for the terrible policies you describe. This makes Scotland's position somewhat different from other British colonies, as you see it: after all, when Gandhi was passively resisting nasty Englishmen in India, he didn't have to deal with a Westminster cabinet dominated by Indians, for example.

Still, it was a marvellous rant for any Englishman to read.

21

Hogsbile,

Plymouth 29/10/2007 11:13:44

#12 - Archie, Gourock

You've surpassed yourself there mate!

What a tirade of pure bigotry - hilarious!

22

walter,

29/10/2007 11:43:02

#10 & 12 living proof that nationalism thrives on racism.

#20 Talking sense and telling the truth, that won't be very welcome on here.

23

Last fish in the Clyde,

Clyde 29/10/2007 12:09:21

You might think from the general thrust of the media coverage that that was not the case, but if you do, you have been misled. The stocks targeted by the Scottish industry are either harvested sustainably or are an active part of a programme of recovery."
Sorry Bertie as always the SFF spout nothing but rubbish. White fish have been fished to extinction in the Clyde where boat now only have Prawns left to catch. which they are now laughably trying to get acreditation as a sustaianable fishery. How can that be a sustainable fishery??? Prawn Trawling that catched all the juvenile white fish at 110mm long.

24

Jambo Number 1,

29/10/2007 12:12:27

Archie,

I have to agree (yuk) with the AM2 and the likes as I wasn't keen on some of the Language you used.

I hope you don't mind but I have taken the liberty of changing some of it to make it more "pc" and acceptable to my SNP principles.

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12. Archie, Gourock / 8:27am 29 Oct 2007 #10, Coco.

Say we went our own way, how would you backfill the 240 Billion in Oil taxation??

Seriously, son. Your junket is at an end. Every other country that has ever parted company with you has thrived and they don't have the natural resources that we have.

You have raped this nation and it's time we stopped subsidising you.

Your pointless wars, your unchecked immigration, your nuclear policies, your lambasted third world education system, you clandestine legal shambles, your monarchy, your class system, your sham of a transport system, your sportsmen, your whinging statesmen and business leaders.

Your country is shored up by Scottish money and Scottish leadership. This is no accident. We are better educated and at every opportunity.

Your chickens are coming home to roost, boy. Mark my words. Coming home to roost.

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See, take out all the "fuds" etc and I think you were pretty spot on.

Look at the AM2ster squad panic, they must be panicking bis style with the wat things are headed!!

25

Jambo Number 1,

29/10/2007 12:16:58

#28

Agh the old Unionist bandwagon - All these things in Scotland and actually British so it actually doesn't matter that you Scottish Nationalists are saying that they "should"be going to Scotland because Scotland is a part of the "United" Kingdom.....


Em, well no, actually that is exactly my point. Vote for our Independence and look at the natural resources we will have rightfully returned to us, just look at them!!

26

Paul O'Brien,

Glasgow 29/10/2007 12:24:50

Dubbie
You have to be careful when you say that Scotland was bankrupt at the time of the Union as it was caused by the English Parliament basically sabotaging the Darian Expedition. A historical fact, not Scottish rhetoric.

That aside, Scotland owes much of its modern makeup to the Union (a reverse takeover, as it was a Scottish king who became king of England, James VI).
Scotland’s standing in the international community is largely due to our universal education through parish schools in the 17th century, which in turn led to the better educated Scots becoming the bookkeepers and merchants of the British Empire.

It is a pity that some of the Scots on this thread are so lacking in a wider understanding of the place Scotland has historically had in the Union.. Glasgow was not the ‘Second City of the Empire’ for nothing. The wealth that flowed into Scotland from all over that Empire change the very fabric of Scottish life and much of the modern day architecture of Glasgow and Edinburgh was defined by this wealth, not to mention the rise of the Scottish banks.

Let’s have a debate on the economics of the here and now in the question of an independent nation and leave a history that is often misrepresented or cherry picked by those wishing to further a story of ‘English’ oppression to further their own ends.

27

Dubbie,

Here 29/10/2007 12:35:33

#30

Seriously, son. Your junket is at an end. Every other country that has ever parted company with you has thrived and they don't have the natural resources that we have.

**Zimbabwe, Sierra Leone, Nigeria - all thriving democracies!**

You have raped this nation and it's time we stopped subsidising you.

**Barnett formula? - whose subsidising who?**

Your pointless wars (Blair, Brown - Scottish)
your unchecked immigration (Blair, Brown - Scottish)
your nuclear policies (Blair, Brown - Scottish)
your lambasted third world education system (really? - 2 out of top 20 British Uni's are Scottish)
you clandestine legal shambles (yours too)
your monarchy (yours too)
your class system (yours too)
your sham of a transport system (what has that got to do with Scotland's prosperity??)
your sportsmen (as above)
your whinging statesmen and business leaders (largely Scottish!).

Your country is shored up by Scottish money (really?) and Scottish leadership (and how the English are being failed :-). This is no accident. We are better educated and at every opportunity (what a generalisation! - if you are better educated why don't you eat more sensibly and drink less these things are bad for you!?.) Sorry that is me taking your approach to this board!)

Your chickens are coming home to roost, boy. Mark my words. Coming home to roost.

**Really? the Scottish population will decide on independence not a couple of racist posters

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28

Grouse,

Canada 29/10/2007 19:03:05

If you were to kill every gray squirrel in Scotland the bodies would be worthless or using the above arithmetic about 4.97574 Bil pounds
Bob

29

tyson,

thankfully not Zimbabwe 29/10/2007 19:22:59

Zimbabwe?!

30

Martha,

29/10/2007 20:18:58

You still haven't figured out that chip butties and fried Snickers bars, washed down with gallons of alcohol, aren't good for you. So how do you propose to run a modern nation?

31

HEN BROON 5,

ALBA 29/10/2007 20:30:24

#36. Smells like Ayr fish market in here.
Kipper baji's was it?

32

canauscat,

Toronto 29/10/2007 20:31:03

Build a bunch of Coast Guard cutter - type vessels to protect your seas. You cannot permit foreign (or domestic) fishing fleets to stripmine your coasts.

The Canadian Government is bloated and effete, incapable of seeing the need and efficiently and decisively acting - maybe you Scots could do better.

33

The Fly Fifer,

Fife 29/10/2007 20:40:39

Let me say this slowly for you dim wits that do not understand .............. The Spanish, ie not Scottish, ( I know starts with the same letter but there is a difference) got the fishing rights off Scotland. and also their close friends in the EU.

Unless you want to go to war with the EU the only fishing any Scots will be doing is of Gourock Pier

34

Purlie Wilson,

Melbourne Australia 29/10/2007 21:54:59

From afar one must wonder at the hyperbole and acid comments of posters. Such a tiny island and dissent among so many has some of us shaking our heads in wonder.

35

HEN BROON 5,

ALBA 29/10/2007 21:58:54

#40. Before slinging the Dim tag around you should really do some research so as not to appear dim. There you go, http://www.scotland.gov.uk/News/Releases/2007/09/19095749

If Iceland can take on Rule Brittania and win, http://www.britains-smallwars.com/RRGP/CodWar.htm I'm pretty confident Scotland will be no less pugnacious.

36

whatsyourname,

29/10/2007 22:11:33

# 10 laught my ass off, dont youi know that your tax money is going towards the royalty, keeping them up is a lot of money,if it wasent for Scotland there would be no England, we chased your ass back down there and drew a line, and if it wasent for the Scots you wouldent be driving a car to work you would still be walkin LMAO

37

john mctear,

nprth berwick 30/10/2007 02:00:49

#20, well said. I am embarrassed reading all the nationalist nonsense from losers who project all their failures on the English. I grew up in Scotland, uninhibited by any sense of being victimised by the English. Scotland gave me a great sense of being and a platform to go confidently into the world. Its not some dark hole, kept in check by the English and bereft of opportunity. Alas, the only thing holding me back from returning is the seemingly increasing number of small minded nationalists, bleating on about how the English have robbed us. Remember you cannot cure your ills if you persist in blaming someone else. Independence for Scotland within Europe ? That about sums up the true ambition of the SNP. Pathetic, misguided and a disgrace to the honour of true Scots.

#12, you comments are a joke. I suggest you read some history (btw, watching Braveheart is no substitute), to discover how our worst enemy in the past has been ourselves. Stop blaming the English for all our ills, turn the spotlight inward, and you may eventually find the answer. I doubt it, but give it a go my son.

38

whatsyourname,

30/10/2007 02:45:32

# 44 I beleave # 12 is right I think you are the one that needs the history lessons. all you have written did not amount to anything other than prove you dont know what your talking about,

39

DavyLadd,

Scottish Highlands 30/10/2007 07:18:19

Oh dear, oh dear, this is the problem with open debate, it turns into fisty-cuffs. Scotland in the end will probably get independence and so will England. Then we can still continue to trade happily with each other. One of the reasons there is unhappiness in Scotland with the present arrangement is the mismanagement by people from a distance i.e. Westminster. Unfortunately though, this wil continue to happen even from Holyrood, unless people who are put in charge of certain industries have great experience of those industries. Richard Lochead recently went on a fishing boat for 2 days and a fish farm for another 2. I have to say that this is the first time I have heard of such a thing. Unfortunately this will only have served to give him a glimpse of either of these. In order to best understand anything you must be in it for many years. I left the fishing years ago when the Westminster government decided we didnt need a 3-mile limit off the coast in order to protect young species from trawling. It sent a signal to me at the time that was louder than any alarm bell that there was to be no future for Scotlands fishermen. Here is my vision for preservation of the future of our waters:
1) Get ALL who use this great resource, into regular meetings.
2) Close of ALL inshore and inter-island spaces to trawlers.
3) Designate controlled areas to CONTROLLED levels of static gear (i.e. creels, longlines etc).
4) Introduce DEMOCRACY for all decision making with regard to the use of this PRECIOUS RESOURCE.

40

Neanderthal75,

Rocky Mountains USA 30/10/2007 08:43:54

Hello All,

I'd just like to say that unlike many Americans, I PREFER visiting Scotland to England; it reminds me of both the State of my youth and the State in which I currently call home.

I've been to Edinburgh 3 times, the Western Highlands only once (which I will remedy if ever I get flush and healthy once again), but loved it all!!!!

The only downside is the ever growing anti-American sentiment, which I see occurring more and more these days. Quite frankly, I've grown more than a little tired of it.

The Scots I like, the politics of many Scots I do NOT like.

The USA is headed into Isolationism once again (a move I applaud), and if tourism revenues mean anything to you, then I suggest that the anti-American Scots had best wake up and get clued into FACTS, rather than blatant subjective emotionalism.

Grow up or stay subservient to London, it's YOUR choice.

Cheers from the Rockies

41

macdquad,

Devon 30/10/2007 15:58:47

Before you rant on about Scottish fishing - take a look at one of your Scottish MP's has done He happens to be Prime Minister and in signing the "Constitution" he has given away the UK veto on fishing rights
So you are all too late!


 

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