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Published Date: 28 June 2008
A STREET party planned for today has been cancelled after organisers were told at the last minute it clashed with an Orange march.
Hundreds of people were expected to attend the community event in the Canongate, which has been planned since April.

But council officials failed to notice until last week that the annual march had already been given permission on the same day. Around 420 people from the John Knox District Lodge No. 5 are set to march through the city centre this afternoon.

The Canongate Community Forum said it had no choice but to cancel the event. Organisers had already spent hundreds of pounds on planning the party, and had expected several hundred people to attend.

City centre SNP councillor David Beckett said he was writing to the council to complain and ask for compensation.

He said: "This is really disappointing.The thing that really annoys me is they knew about the Orange walk in March. I can understand the organisers' frustration. It was only last Friday that they decided that the street party couldn't go ahead."

The Canongate Community Forum had planned the party to coincide with the closure of its office on St Mary's Street, as well as celebrating the beginning of the school summer holidays.

Chairwoman Catriona Grant said members could not believe it when they were told last week of the double booking.

She said: "We did everything correctly. We applied for permission in April, and we've been in correspondence with the council since then. We'd already spoken to the chief constable about the road closures. Then they said there had been an oversight, and the Orange march had already been agreed.

"They tried to persuade us to move up East Market Street, or finish earlier. But the marchers will be disembarking at about 3.30pm, and we didn't want to be squeezed on to a little bit of ground outside the council headquarters.

"We've already spent hundreds of pounds on booking the bouncy castle and other entertainments. We're not a big organisation."

A council spokeswoman said: "During the summer period there is an extremely busy schedule of events in the city.

"In this case as soon as a the clash was noted a compromise was offered. This meant the street party would have moved one block down the street and the assembly point for the march would have also been moved. Unfortunately the street party organisers were not happy with this."


The full article contains 417 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 28 June 2008 3:06 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Royal Mile
 
1

alex paterson,

edinburgh 28/06/2008 15:18:14
What a shame so many people looking forward to a nice day and it has to be ruined by a Orange Walk,nothing against Orange Men.
2

Fifi la Bonbon,

28/06/2008 15:22:57
Ridiculous sense of priorities by the Council and Police.

The orange walk should have been cancelled so the community forum's street party could go ahead, not the other way round. The orangepersons could easily merge their walk with one of the other ones elsewhere. Or they could move it to Northern Ireland, where it really belongs.

Who do the streets of Edinburgh belong to, anyway? A sectarian group from another part of the UK living in the past and notorious for their abusive drunken hangers on, or a genuine local communiy event?

Somebody needed to be disappointed. Edinburgh Council seems to have made its mind up about who that should be. It made the wrong decision.
3

Jonathan,

UAE 28/06/2008 16:21:19
I fail to see the problem.

How long does it take a few hundred orange folk to walk a mile? Max 30 minutes?

If scheduled properly, no-one would ever notice it.
4

tumshie heid,

28/06/2008 16:21:23
Perhaps upseting the orangemen might have lost the council its supply of backhanders?
Of course the community street party should have been given priority over those muppets.
What can you expect from a council which closes schools and builds giant train sets instead of funding them?
5

Toast,

28/06/2008 16:27:46
Typical,we remove and ban pipers that the tourists love but let a bunch of neanderthals take over our streets.
6

Erica from East Kilbride,

28/06/2008 17:15:26
Tell the Orange people to march straight to Waverley and catch a train to Queen Street. Their sort of bigotry has no place in a multicultural, welcoming, tolerant and international city such as Edinburgh.
7

John Knox furr First Meenister,

High St, Embra 28/06/2008 17:30:17
Around 420 people from the John Knox District Lodge No. 5 ....
Sheet! I missed it!

8

The Batboy,

28/06/2008 18:03:30
The Canongate community should have been given the priority - after all, they LIVE there! Where did the Orange Walkers come from??

This present Council id getting worse by the day! Do us all a favour and do a Wendy!
9

Jenny MacArthur,

28/06/2008 18:36:36
Quite right. Nice friendly local people celebrating their community with positive all-welcoming activities can't be allowed to get in the way of nasty ugly bigots expressing their hatred with blatant intimidation and a barely concealed undercurrent of violence, with no relevance to Edinburgh or even Scotland. Stand up for hatemongers rights!
10

andrew muir 2 win,

28/06/2008 19:42:21
would you all listen to yourselves. you are all slating the orangemen instead of the council whom, paid by OUR hard earned tax money to carry out a professional job have clearly displayed how incompetent they are to be able to create this mix up by double booking two events, which happened to rule in favour of the 1st one booked, if more people stopped showing hatred of one and others beliefs and let people carry on their tradition whatever your beliefs the world would be a better place.
11

The Geniune Mario Antionette,

28/06/2008 20:24:46
It's a double booking. It happens. Act accordingly.
12

Libra Hibby,

28/06/2008 21:25:43
#11
So you think we should all stop showing hatred to others beliefs but it is alright for someones beliefs to show hatred to others.

You Tube.
13

leith keely,

edinburgh 28/06/2008 21:39:12
#11 wee said andrew, free speech for all. #13 yera guffbag, plain and simple.
14

Libra Hibby,

28/06/2008 21:45:36
#14
And you sir are a complete neanderthal knuckledrager.
15

leith keely,

edinburgh 28/06/2008 21:45:44
#11 well said andrew, free speech for all. #13 yer a guffbag, plain and simple.



#11 well said andrew, free spech for all,#13 yer a guffbag! plain and simple.






16

leith keely,

edinburgh 28/06/2008 21:55:46
#15 don`t call me "sir" i`m a woman, duckhead, did a big boy teach you those words?.
17

Libra Hibby,

28/06/2008 22:11:03
#17
Dont call me 'Duckhead' I am a goose and no a big boy didn't teach me those words. If these are your beliefs then I pity you. Obviously by your agreement with #11 you will think that someone like Mugabe and his people are correct in their beliefs then ?
18

leith keely,

edinburgh 28/06/2008 22:23:50
*18 no! those are not my beliefs but i believe in free speech for everyone unlike you presumably, thank god your not in a position of power and by the way your still a duckhead it oozes out of your words.
19

Libra Hibby,

28/06/2008 22:31:49
#19
I am sorry but if you believe in free speech for everyone then you condone those who incite racial and sectarian violence. Obviously if you believe me to be a duckhead because it oozes out of my words then why are you arguing with me. Am I not entitled to free speech ?
20

leith keely,

sunny leith 28/06/2008 22:42:40
#20 yes u are entitled to free speech but so is the orange order so is a bunch of muslim fanatics who want to *kill all infidels" but your kind of "free speech" smacks of anti protestantism and whatever u think of the orange order they are entitled to it as much as you.
21

Libra Hibby,

28/06/2008 23:01:50
#21 You are completely wrong as I am a protestant and proud of it.

There is a difference between that and what the orange order stand for which I strongly abhor. Its people like you who automatically assume that I must be a catholic (or some denomination other than protestant) that angers me. Please do not link the two together. Had enough now, going to bed as I have flute practice in the morning.
22

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29/06/2008 01:10:21
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23

celtic4,

USA 29/06/2008 04:42:12
By golly, that was a fair good argument that got going there. Glad I did not miss it.
24

Cynicaltalk,

29/06/2008 07:24:29
Libra Hibby - 1

Leith Keely - 0
25

Saneandable,

Ireland temporarily. 29/06/2008 14:22:06
SCOTTISH RITUAL FREEMASONRY/ORANGE WALKS:

Remember:

* Pan Am 103 Lockerbie
* The Dunblane Massacre
* Logan Airport 9/11 2001
* War in Iraq
* Body Bags from the above?

Scottish Ritual Freemasonry's cause is the effect!

1. Scottish Ritual Freemasonry's H.Q. is at 96 George Street, Edinburgh, Scotland - builders of the U.S. White House.
2. The Knesset (Masonic Lodge) was specifically designed and built by Rothschild.
3. Adolf Hitler was a Rothschild offshoot.
4. Watch the globally and strategically placed 'black dots'/'traditional handshakes' as they tour the world, and the picture emerges e.g. Bush-Blair-Brown-Rothschild!

There is growing awareness of Mountbatten-Windsor attempts to hinder public awareness of these Days of Elijah details. The attempt also is to try to thwart understanding and accountability for their intended World War Three evils.

Knowing why allows this author to go public.

It is her privilege to set this record, and to thereafter move on to doing more.

DAYS OF ELIJAH - authenticated non-fiction by Eliza Earsman. ISBN: 9780955624803.
www.elizaearsman.com


"They also kill who only stand and stare/do nothing."
26

honi_soit_qui_mali_pense,

Edinburgh 29/06/2008 17:31:18
The Orange Order unashamedly believes in old fashioned values and morals whilst at the same time standing up for civil and religious liberties.
27

claire85,

edinburgh 29/06/2008 22:24:17
i am a member of the orange order and why shouldnt we stand up for our civil and religious liberties?? everyone of us in the order pay our tax money like yourselfs so why shouldnt we? and batboy the answer to your question "where do they come from?" well we all come from edinburgh, hense the reason were are named john knox edinburgh district. this is our country aswell and we have just as much rights as anyone else! this parade is planned for the same time (last saturday of june) every year and has been for a long time now!! the council is to blame for this as it was them who double booked! the order intend on being here for a long time to come so you better get used to it as we wont just back off!!
28

Pilrig.,

Livingston 29/06/2008 22:50:12
7 - "welcoming tolerant city like Edinburgh" ? yer having a laugh, he. Tell that to the pipers on the Royal Mile evicted by the local Stasi
29

Pilrig.,

Livingston 29/06/2008 22:54:40
21 Leith Keely - what makes,you think the LOL represent Protestantism ?
Let 'em walk, though, even when they display banners of 'brother' John Cormack, an ignorant fuhd if there ever was one.
30

Pilrig.,

Livingston 29/06/2008 22:55:53
26 - time for yer medication, gadgie
31

Pilrig.,

Livingston 29/06/2008 22:59:14
28 - I doubt John Knox would approve of the bevvying when you guys & gals go on yer walk. Mind you, he wouldnae approve of shops, playgrounds, cinemas being open on the Sabbath either.
32

radge dug,

30/06/2008 09:40:19
Claire 28 - NO ONE is stopping you from going to church or worshipping any god you choose. Why do you need to take to the streets and rub your irrational and hate filled beleifs in others faces.

Btw, i was raised Presbyterian and hated it. King Billy was Anglican which is much closer to Rome than Scots Presbyterianism. Funny that. Funny to that instead of using your freedom of worship at the church of your choice, you choose to parade your idolotry through the streets. I be Knox would hate your huge pictures of a Dutch homosexual on a horse. Whats that got to do with our lives today?

Again, 'proddy' churches are closing because folk go to football instead of church. The Pope has got f-all to do with it.
33

Keith 1,

Edinburgh, UK 30/06/2008 12:34:27
#2 Just a small correction - if you know your history it is actually a Scottish Problem. It was the Scots who invaded Ulster and stole the land from the natives. It is thoese very same peoples decendants that today are members of the Orange Order in Northern Ireland.

Anyway the issue is not about who can walk where but bad planning!
34

Jock MacSprog,

30/06/2008 12:38:31
this is not about whether you like or dislike the orange order. The council cocked up and its their fault. Personally I would ban both the orange order and the James Connelly and any other Sinn Fein IRA Irish Nationalist marches as well. The Orange Order played by the rules in this case and did everything they were asked to to comply with the law and council regs so you cant just cancel it because you dont like them.
35

Journalistic licence,

In the ludge 30/06/2008 12:38:50
The cooncil was quite right. It's a well known fact that these community street parties are an incendiary device just waiting to go off. Once they've had a few drinks all the little neighbourly bickerings that have been going on for centuries flare up and, before you know it, become a full-scale riot. Someone's sure to be banging on their drum about something that's upset them and once the music gets louder they'll be strutting back and forward between each other's gardens trying to antagonise each other. You often find that a big crown of them will pick on one particular neighbour and stand for ages outside their house shouting abuse and using foul language and banging their drum even harder.
The council has stopped a minor street battle from happening by giving priority to the Orange Order. Well done!!!
36

didan,

edinburgh 30/06/2008 16:07:50
So sorry to see the Edinburgh Evening News degenerate into a "talking shop" for lowlife and giving a platform to people who would deny the Orangemen and women who LIVE, WORK AND PAY TAXES in the CITY of EDINBURGH the very liberties they claim to uphold.
Bye the way I wasn't aware of any residents in this part of East Market Street but there are none actually living on the Garvachy Road in Portadown either.
37

AbandonAllHope,

01/07/2008 13:34:00
The Orange order are a wee bit more important than some laughable nonsense served up as a 'community' party.
38

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05/07/2008 20:18:28
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Davyboy,

31/08/2008 10:10:52
It's just another example of the bad planning of this council!!!
Stop the fighting, both your groups have good things to give Edinburgh!!

 

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