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Published Date: 05 September 2007
SCRAPPING tolls on the Forth and Tay road bridges will incur one-off costs of up to £21 million, ministers said yesterday as they published measures paving the way for the move on 1 January next year.
The cost of paying off toll collectors and debt, and realigning roads does not include the £16 million a year in lost toll revenue.

Stewart Stevenson, the transport minister, introduced a parliamentary bill for abolishing the tolls. He said the m
easure would remove the last bridge tolls in Scotland, "ending years of injustice for the communities of Fife, Tayside and the Lothians". The Scottish government said regular bridge users could save around £200 a year, while businesses and tourism would also benefit.

But the move is likely to face tough scrutiny from Holyrood's Green-led transport, infrastructure and climate change committee, which will lead consideration of the bill. Patrick Harvie, its convener, warned ministers yesterday that it would increase congestion and pollution and raise Scotland's levels of "climate-wrecking exhaust fumes".

He said: "The Green Party has consistently argued that abolishing all charges is not in the long- term interests of commuters, and that it flies in the face of the government's climate-change policy."

A Holyrood-commissioned study concluded that the move could significantly increase traffic on the bridges, as The Scotsman revealed in June.

The toll-abolition costs include paying off the £14.8 million debt on the Tay Road Bridge, and transitional costs such as removing toll equipment, staff redundancies and changes to road layouts around the toll plazas on both bridges.

These amount to £825,000 for the Tay Road Bridge and up to £5.5 million for the Forth Road Bridge.



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  • Last Updated: 04 September 2007 8:34 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
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1

Guga II,

Rockall 05/09/2007 02:50:27

It will be interesting to see who, exactly, votes for the abolition of the tolls, and, more importantly, who votes against it.

2

Neanderthal75,

Rocky Mountains USA 05/09/2007 03:12:39

Hello All,

How about you get Westminster to lower the overall income tax rates by 10% and have the Councils and Executive lower business taxes by 10% as well?

You'll see a RISE in tax revenues, even though the rates have been lowered: businesses will be able to produce more (because they can make more money on volume)-which means more jobs for all, industries will update their infrastructure so they can produce more efficiently and thus increase their bottom line (which means the items for infrastructure upgrades must be produced, which means more jobs created).

In short, lowering tax rates will increase tax revenues-all you Scots will have to do then, is to make sure the politicians don't squander it all on worthless projects or personal items of political interest.

Cheers from the Rockies.

3

Pocket Dictionary,

05/09/2007 07:01:28

In the interest of fairness, what were the right off costs for the Erskine Bridge?

4

D Napier,

05/09/2007 07:46:46

So, Mr Swinney, where is all this money coming from???????

5

Paul Voltaire,

05/09/2007 07:50:57

Bit expensive for flattening some tollbooths...

6

God almighty,

05/09/2007 07:54:16

The whole policy of abolishing tolls was clearly never thought through properly - it's an utter shambles and an embarrassment to Scotland at a time when every other country is taking steps to REDUCE congestion and emissions.

The SNP have also still to explain how they will pay for the new crossing without tolls - something far more critical to the economy than a measly £1 toll in one direction.

7

Doh,

05/09/2007 08:06:20

I guess the toll collectors will lose their jobs.

8

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05/09/2007 08:12:57
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9

Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 05/09/2007 08:25:48

In the next several years the new Forth Road bridge
will be opened to traffic. What will be the cost of tolls? (Tolls on the Second Severn Crossing are not cheap for either private or business users.) Will the present Forth Road Bridge then have to be closed to HGV traffic because of the ongoing structural problems? Neither Labour, nor the SNP Executive have explained who will ultimately have to pay for these extensive repairs to the old bridge?
Will tolls then have to be reintroduced to pay for these repairs to the old bridge?
The Golden Gate Bridge recently underwent massive repairs and the tolls quadrupled!
The abolition of tolls on the Forth and Tay Road Bridges may only be a temporary respite for the motorist?

10

Frank LeVanque,

05/09/2007 08:47:01

8 Phil C - You're right, reducing traffic jams would reduce emissions, but all the expert advice says that abolishing tolls will INCREASE traffic by about 20% in the longer term.

Regular users of the bridge will be aware that the traffic snarls up AFTER you get past the toll booths, and you often don't speed up again until you're past Dunfermline.

It's the volume of traffic and the bottle-neck of the two-lane bridge with its 50 mph speed limit that causes the congestion, not the seven-lanes of toll booths - these can actually process more traffic than the bridge itself can cope with, so removing them will nto reduce traffic jams!

11

Duncan in Edinburgh,

05/09/2007 09:03:10

#8 On what do you base your assertion that no more people will use the bridge when the tolls are abolished? Pure wishful thinking?

Dear god, the country is being run by people with their heads up their backsides and they are supported by people with their heads in the sand. What a disaster for Scotland.

12

Jeeemy,

05/09/2007 09:32:23

Frank LeVanque#
“Regular users of the bridge will be aware that the traffic snarls up AFTER you get past the toll booths, and you often don't speed up again until you're past Dunfermline”
Frank that is the wave effect without the stop at the tolls there will be no wave effect and no enhanced pollution.
The wave effect can be found on all motorways and turnpike roads throughout the world for the first 2 miles after a stoppage and anything up to 10 miles before that same stoppage depending on the individual circumstances. The A8000 and that stupid roundabout at the entrance to the North Queensferry retail park in particular

13

Duncan in Edinburgh,

05/09/2007 09:47:57

#12 Oh for pity's sake! How many times does it have to be explained that the tolls have a greater throughput capacity than the bridge itself? The 50mph speed limit on the bridge is what is causing your "wave effect", not the toll booths.

14

GalacticCanninbal.,

05/09/2007 10:33:11

#12,13,14,15

GET A GRIP. You may have to slow down..! How dare you have to slow down.. this is an outrage, take achill pill. People over complicate things.. I S D T O S I <--------- - Rearrange words to see what you are

15

P'd off with the lies,

05/09/2007 11:26:23

#5

Well it won't be from saving money on school closures so tax or other unpopular cuts most likely...

16

Rony,

Fife 05/09/2007 11:38:07

They will find the money from the same place as labour found the money for abolishing the tolls on the Erskine and Skye bridges!

17

EG,

05/09/2007 12:12:18

It might increase the volume of traffic over the bridge but most of the increase will probably come from other routes. Net increase fopr the country NIL.
Currently there are two ways of going north - drive further by going round by Stirling (more miles so more pollution) or wait in the queue at the bridge (sitting still pumping out gases). Therefore keeping the traffic flowing over the bridge will reduce overall emissions.

18

Phil C,

05/09/2007 12:18:19

#11 I didn't say no more people will use the bridge. I just don't see why traffic should increase significantly because a £1 toll is removed. The 'experts' have said traffic COULD (not will) increase. Greens are always against anything that helps car users, to the point that they alienate many people. I personally think the plans help both motorists and the environment through less jams. Removal of tolls will aid traffic flow. The new road (A8000?) will help southbound jams very soon. Though I agree there will still be congestion, the new TUNNEL will eventually cure that.

Labour's dithering about a new crossing and their politically motivated waste of £millions building the new plaza are the problem...not the removal of tolls, which will help many.

19

Phil C,

05/09/2007 12:20:12

#16 I give up. I can't do your puzzle. What's the answer?

20

King Doug,

Glasgow 05/09/2007 12:47:26

#16 - For a second I thought the anagram was "idiots", but then I realised that only an idiot would have added an extra "S", so it's obviously something else that is WAY beyond my intelligence!!!

These tolls should have been abolished the moment the Skye and Erskine ones were, or else none of them should have been abolished.

As people have pointed out, this isn't going to increase traffic. You might get people using the route as an alternative to the Kincardine Bridge, but somehow I doubt anyone would go through the MASSIVE tailbacks currently building up every day just to save £1. There's not going to be an influx of cars suddenly appearing on the roads just because a couple of tolls have been abolished, and £1 per day is hardly going to make driving any cheaper than it already is in comparison with the train - somehow I doubt taking the train is under £1 more expensive than taking your car.

The only downside I cn really see from this is the loss of some toll collector jobs - but employment problems are not solved by having artfically necessary jobs.

21

Friar Tuck,

05/09/2007 16:19:16

I for one will not increase my use of the bridge because the tolls are removed. I will only use it if I need to (same as I do now). Does anyone realise that the traffic has increased since 1964 even with the tolls? Does anyone really think people are going to drive more on the bridge just because it is free?

By the way - Happy Birthday Forth Road Bridge!

22

Miss H,

05/09/2007 18:49:41

I don't use the Forth or Tay Bridges now and I won't use them more in the future because tolls have been abolished. I do however use the toll free Erskine Bridge on a regular basis. I don't see why that bridge should be free and bridges over the Forth and Tay should not be.

23

WL,

livingston 05/09/2007 21:35:00

IF abolition of the tolls means more road traffic, it also means more income for the government (I don't know which one) from tax and VAT on petrol.


 

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