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Prince Harry: 'I think this is as normal as I'm ever going to get'



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Published Date: 29 February 2008
IT IS only 500 metres across no-man's-land to the Taleban front line, and the British soldiers come under fire several times a day.
The night-time temperatures were minus 8C when Harry arrived and there is no heating in the sleeping quarters.

The "showers" are a bag hung up in a wooden cubicle, the urinals are a row of angled pipes half-buried in the sand, and the main toilets
are the dreaded " thunderboxes" – plywood structures with a hole cut in the centre, inside flimsy wooden cubicles.

Welcome to the British Army's Forward Operating Base (Fob) "Delhi" in Afghanistan. It's not exactly the home comforts Prince Harry is used to, but he doesn't mind one bit.

"It's bizarre. I'm out here now, haven't really had a shower for four days, haven't washed my clothes for a week and everything seems completely normal.

"What am I missing the most? Nothing really," he said in January, as he sat in his bedspace at the camp, a former Taleban madrassa with bullet- holes peppering the walls.

"I honestly don't know what I miss at all: music, we've got music, we've got light, we've got food, we've got (non-alcoholic] drink."

Clearly conscious of his tabloid image back home, he quickly added: "No, I don't miss booze, if that's the next question. It's nice just to be here with all the guys and just mucking in as one of the lads.

"It's very nice to be a normal person for once – I think this is about as normal as I'm ever going to get."

On his arrival in war-ravaged Helmand province just before Christmas, the prince was sent to Fob Dwyer, the headquarters of the battlegroup headed by his own Household Cavalry Regiment.

But he didn't stay long in that dusty and isolated outpost in the middle of the desert, about six miles from the front line. He asked his commanding officer if he could spend Christmas Day with the Gurkhas at Fob Delhi, and it was agreed Harry could stay on there for a while to fulfil his dream on serving on the front line.

"I was hoping to come down here for Christmas Day to be with the Gurkhas," the prince explained.

"I don't know why, it was just something I wanted to do, just to be with them. They don't really celebrate Christmas that much, but we had some fantastic games, which we played in the yard there."

These Nepalese-style games included one that involved catching a chicken. This year, having left Britain too late for the Christmas post to be dispatched and arrive in time, Harry had no presents sent to him – although he did benefit from anonymous parcels sent to all British troops by wellwishers at home.

"I got nothing for Christmas; most of these guys got nothing for Christmas," he said with a shrug.

He did, however, have a chance to speak to his family over the festive period. As with all British troops, he was given an extra ten minutes' credit on his army satellite-phone account over the Christmas week as a Yuletide treat. Fob Delhi comes under attack several times a day from rocket-propelled grenades, mortar shells and machine-gun fire, and British troops operate out of old-fashioned trenches and bunkers.

But Harry said: "When you know you are with the Gurkhas, there's no safer place to be, really."

But asked if the base was a safe place for a prince, Major Mark Milford, of the 1st Battalion, the Royal Gurkha Rifles, replied matter- of-factly: "No, not really."

One of the observation posts, JTAC Hill, is built on the remains of a 19th- century fort, used by the British during a previous involvement in the seemingly perpetually war- torn country. The prince shared a room with a constantly changing con-tingent of Royal Artillery soldiers, alternating between stints up on JTAC Hill and the camp itself.

"This is what it is all about," he said. "What it's all about is being here with the guys rather than being in a room with a bunch of officers.

"I'm in here with all the guys; most of them are artillery guys basically doing a swap-over with the other ones on JTAC Hill, stagging on (performing guard duty], stagging off, doing a week because it's quite a lot of graft.

"It's good fun to be with just a normal bunch of guys, listening to their problems, listening to what they think. And especially getting through every day. It's not painful to be here, but you are doing a job and to be with such fantastic people, the Gurkhas and the guys I'm shar-ing a room with, makes it all worthwhile."

One good thing about Delhi is the standard of the food: the Gurkha fare is the envy of the Afghanistan theatre, with regular chicken or goat curries.

However, it has been important to try to keep news of the prince's deployment a secret, and other soldiers have been told not to mention him in their phone calls home.

Major Andy Dimmock, of 4th Regiment, Royal Artillery, who has spent the past six months attached to the Household Cavalry, said: "All the lads phone home as normal. We just say, 'Don't tell them who you are with'.

"We are not giving any special treatment to him. It's just a security risk, because if it gets out that he's here, the indirect fire threat will increase. At the moment, he's just the same as any other officer here."

Major Dimmock said there was a huge novelty factor in having a prince under his command, but he was now very much part of the team. And working closely with Harry, the major saw first-hand how he excelled in banter with pilots over the radio "net". But none of the pilots realised they were talking to the prince, they simply knew him by his call sign: "Widow Six Seven."



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  • Last Updated: 29 February 2008 9:02 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Prince Harry , Afghanistan
 
1

Linda,

Edinburgh 29/02/2008 09:49:30
Did Des Browne leak this story yesterday to bury the good news that the SNP Scottish Government has abolished student tuition fees.
2

Proximaking,

Dundee 29/02/2008 12:57:10
Now they've said he's coming back he can safely stay. Afghanistan is a big place and one bald aquaddie with dyed hair looks much like any other. Point is if he wants to stay he could stay without too much effort to fit in and if he comes back it is because he wants to and all he has to do is thank the mystery person who arranged for him to be discovered. I wonder who that could have been, ...... surely not a member of the Royal family? If he doesn't want to fight he should get out of the army and stay out, it isn't fair on those who don't have the opt out he has and it isn't fair on himself. Does he really want his kids to think about him what he thinks about his "father's" exploits running ships aground and crashing planes on landing and blaming someone else? He is stealing a career place from someone just as prince Andrew did when he was given a helicopter flight despite being well down his class below the level he should have got one, some family out there has always been the poorer because he knowingly accepted that position.
3

trailblazer1953,

USA 29/02/2008 13:08:42
I feel that Prince Harry is doing the right thing by joining the military. Today, all of the policy makers send young men and women to do the dying, while they sit on their butts with pencils and coffee, or tea. Every citizen should join, and be sent to harms way when needed, without regard to their position in society. Bravo Harry...tell them to cancel your re-assignment
4

Media 1,

cape town 29/02/2008 13:26:16
Yes well done Harry, you like all the rest of the soldiers deserve credit where credit is due. Although, if we stop and think about it, the only reason we have war is because people en masse around the world join armies and fight the wars their leaders create.
Harry said that war was the most normality he was ever going to experience, which suggests he is looking for peace away from the paparazzi.
All he needs to do is publically announce his departure from the royal family, thus no longer a royal. The will hound him for a while, but he will eventually become part of the rank and file, which sounds like it will suit him down to the ground
5

George Laird,

29/02/2008 14:30:27
Dear All

"Prince Harry: 'I think this is as normal as I'm ever going to get".

What shooting muslims in a country illegally invaded?

Well fox hunting is now banned.

Yours sincerely

George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
6

MoragtheToerag,

Argyll 29/02/2008 14:36:10
Soldiers obey orders, George 'Laird'. And his were to go to Afghanistan.
7

happy english,

London 29/02/2008 14:59:29
#5 If you are so worried about these Muslims and there Human rights then why don't you go to Afghanistan, but you know big mouth your a coward you have plenty in common with your Muslim friends. Go and slither off you freak.
8

PJ,

Edinburgh 29/02/2008 15:01:30
#5

Here they come out of the woodwork! Where were you when Taliban forces committed a large number of political and other extrajudicial killings, both within the country and in the refugee community in Pakistan.

Where were you when the Taliban summarily executed approximately 300 Hazara men and boys. Many were shot by firing squads in public view. Those killed reportedly included aid workers and an Afghan member of a U.N. organization.

Where were you when the Taliban employed swift summary trials and implemented strict punishments including executions, whippings, and amputations at times which took place before crowds of up to 30,000 people.

You are all talk for someone who sits at home worried about someone’s rights, when the Taliban were committing ethnic massacres and persecution. Probably you should read up on Hazara and Uzbek city of Mazar-i-Sharif in 1998, where 8000 non-combatants were killed shop owners, cart pullers, women and children shoppers and even goats and donkeys.

You are a typical student no grasp of the real world outside of a book or what you have been told!
9

George Laird,

Glasgow 29/02/2008 15:20:00
Dear Morag

Soldiers obey orders?

You are quite right, I was taught that at Royal Military Police Training School, Chichester.

Class 8012.

Finally can you tell me does the British Army consult every soldier's granny before deployment?

And is every soldier in Afghanistan whose name appears in the public domain removed?

Yours sincerely

George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
10

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 29/02/2008 15:55:08
#5 George Laird

You are a babbling idiot and coward and a disgrace to Glasgow. Thank God most Glaswegians aren't as ignorant and stupid as you.

Now that I know what a "thunderbox" is that is the appropriate place to pitch Laird and let the brave soldiers do their duty on that numbskull and numptie.
11

Bob Fae Fife,

29/02/2008 16:11:18
I am not a Royalist but I do think Harry is a great example of what Royalty should be about. He doesn't look down his nose at others and is willing to live like others and face the same dangers. There’s not an elitist bone in his body.
Well done son!!
12

George Laird,

Glasgow 29/02/2008 16:15:13
Dear Tim

"You are a babbling idiot and coward and a disgrace to Glasgow".

If you are interested in calling me a "coward" to my face, here is my address.

2/1 12 Salen Street, Craigton, Glasgow.

Yours sincerely

George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
13

Lanna,

29/02/2008 16:39:28
I have friends from Kyrgyzstan. They were happy to see the Taliban gone; they told me some not too nice stories of the Taliban coming into the area and causing trouble, to put it mildly.
14

Hunky Dorey,

Glasgow 29/02/2008 16:47:06
#5 Well done George Laird and well said. I wonder will Harry wear his nazi uniform and treat us all to a few fascist salutes before he comes scurrying home like the coward he is.
15

Hunky Dorey,

Glasgow 29/02/2008 16:50:10
#11 Bob..... Why should he "look down on others" after all he has got red hair and none of the other royal scroungers have red hair. Does that not tell you something?
16

beckypumps1,

Fife 29/02/2008 18:54:09
15
I am sure that one off Diana’s close chums had red hair. Also will Harry’s TV crew be coming home with him? Does it cost the same to send Harry to Afghanistan as it does an ordinary solder. I am sure the Taliban were well aware off his presence in the country before yesterday’s so called news broke, I feel sorry for the lads having to serve next to him and if it is a good idea to have these so called royal moppets in the armed services at all.
17

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 29/02/2008 22:26:51
I think it is just as well that I read the main Leader before I had my tea. What a sick bag job that was. Reminded me of the old cinema days.

Let's face it, Scotsman, the fact that this guy is a royal should not allow you to run away with yourself and cream your pants.

For what is a royal? A token head of a state which does not include me?

He is a soldier and if the British army is so afraid then pull him out and put an end to the whole spin charade.

Better not to accept them for military training in the first place. We all know it's just a game.
18

subrosa,

29/02/2008 23:22:29
# 6

It was his choice not his duty. He is no average soldier who gets no choice where he is posted. Harry gets a choice. He wanted to go to Iraq but that was refused. The article says he wanted to spend Christmas with the Ghurkas and he did. Do you honestly think any other solder would have dared to make a similar request? Some people have no idea how the military works in this modern day.
19

indune1,

29/02/2008 23:43:44

12 - Mr. Laird - you seem to have your wars mixed up. The ousting of the Taliban was both a UN and NATO sanctioned action - unlike the invasion of Iraq.

Did you or your organisation protest against the massive human rights violations perpetrted upon the Afghan people? Perhaps not. You may have not finished your post-secondary education at that time.

And oh my, don't we take the huff when we challenge Mr. Tim to travel across the pond and call you a "coward" to your face. Let's say he took up your manly challenge.

What would it be - manifestos at 20 paces?

A battle of the protests moderated and judged by Vanessa Redgrave?

Or would you immediately offer physical violence? Surely, as the leader of a human rights movement that would be in direct contravention of your beliefs. Surely, you must have studied Ghandi and obviously rejected his credo.

Lighten up Mr. Laird. You'll soon learn the darker side of the world once you get out of school and travel the world.
20

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 01/03/2008 10:04:56
Laird from Glasgow

Why on earth would I waste time writing to a nonentity such as yourself.

If you think persons such as myself would deign to communicate with you then your are dreaming in technicolour or are on drugs or an alcoholic.
21

George Laird,

Glasgow 01/03/2008 15:19:58
Dear Tim the Coward

Not got the guts to call me a coward to my face!

If you take the time to look at the footage of Mr. Windsor/Wales, you will see that his firing of weapons was stage managed.

For example, a shoulder held missile, if it was a stand to, then you would have seen other soldiers on the wall taking up defensive fire positions.

There was none.

The firing of the 50 machine gun, this is not a task peformed by an officer. Furthermore from the footage you will have noticed he is not aiming either.

So all this "war" footage is to convince gullable people like you, he is actually fighting. However I do concede that he called in airstrikes but for your information and reported in the news. He would have been with his commanding officer and for secure reasons he wouldn't be going forward either.

You may also remember that pictures of him doing guard duty inside the uk compound, that was also staged managed, he wouldn't be doing that. And did you notice the film crew were not in the compound but filmed it from the outside perimeter?

You can see a picture in the Guardian, Mr. Windsor carries his hand gun across his chest. No one who was properly trained in firearms would do such a thing. If he was attacked and dived for cover the weapon feasibly could discharge, shooting him in the groin.

If the bullet hit the femoral artery, he would be in deep trouble medically. So really sloppy weapon handling too.

Finally Mr. Windsor/Wales doesn't seem to have a problem fighting but you must concede generally that there is always multiple people standing being him with automatic or semi automatic weapons.

You will of course remember his most famous fighting kicking the crap out of an innocent man doing his job taking pictures. He had 3 bodyguards carrying glock pistols in case he got into trouble.

Also he never apologied to that man either.

So live on in that dream world that Mr. Windsor/Wales is a "hero" the reality is otherwise. You go
22

George Laird,

Glasgow 01/03/2008 15:20:38
So live on in that dream world that Mr. Windsor/Wales is a "hero" the reality is otherwise. You got conned because you are ignorant and wanted to believe something stage managed for your benefit and stop proper officers and men thinking he is unfit to wear the uniform.

Yours sincerely

George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
23

indune1,

01/03/2008 20:02:30

21 and 22 - a bit long-winded but that is to be expected from an ex-red-cap (aka meathead).

BTW - I wasn't aware that Glasgow University was a target for a campaign for Human Rightsd.
24

indune1,

01/03/2008 20:11:22

21 - I am still bemused that a spokesperson for a human rights campaign would be threatening violence upon another human being.

Interesting double-standard but that is not unprecedented.
25

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01/03/2008 22:02:42
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26

indune1,

02/03/2008 00:08:45
Well, aren't ye in a wee huff. Just back from the pub, are we?

I believe there is fair lot of lads in Scotland who are rare princes at drinkin', whorin' and being degenerates.

Berwick? Surely, you would want to do better than that or perhaps judging by your general attitude I thought you have asked for Brixton or Millwall.
27

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 02/03/2008 09:08:32
Laird from Glasgow

Nowhere in my postings have I stated or implied that you are a "coward". You may be long-winded, a blowhard, a loudmouth, wayward in your thinking, muddled in your reasoning, amusing in your offended dignity, etc.

But I have NEVER called you a "coward" what in the name of God are you babbling, yet again, about.

The best thing for you is to shut up and not make yourself look more foolish than you have already in these forums, Lairdie me boy.
28

PJ,

Edinburgh 02/03/2008 22:10:56
George Laird,Glasgow!

What a long winded blowhard you are, full of your own importance and so insignificant.

It is better for you to keep your mouth shut and let everyone think your an idiot,than opening your mouth and proving your one!
29

George Laird,

04/03/2008 13:28:55
Dear PJ Edinburgh

You appear to want to take the moral high ground with your rhetoric but it would have been better if it was back up by proper spelling and grammar.

"proving your one", should be "proving you're one".

Yours sincerely

George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
30

George Laird,

04/03/2008 13:34:00
Dear Tim the Coward

I just finished reading your post, number 27, in which you state;

"Nowhere in my postings have I stated or implied that you are a "coward".

If you read your other post, number 10, you stated;

"You are a babbling idiot and coward and a disgrace to Glasgow".

Imagine lying on a web board, pretty pathetic.

Sign of a complete @rse I am sure you will agree!

Yours sincerely

George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University

 

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