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Published Date: 31 January 2008
ANYBODY selling a house in Scotland from December this year will have to spend up to £500 on an information pack for potential buyers, MSPs decided yesterday.
Proposals for the controversial single-seller survey scheme, which is designed to make the housing market simpler and help first-time buyers in particular, were backed by MSPs.

Stewart Maxwell, the housing minister, set out the Scottish Governmen
t's plan, arguing it would benefit "all buyers and sellers".

However, the scheme was criticised by solicitors and some opposition politicians, who warned that the Scottish Government was merely driving up the cost of moving house.

The proposal was backed by Holyrood's local government and communities committee yesterday and now only needs the formal backing of the whole parliament – which is likely to take place next week – to be made law.

It will mean that, from 1 December, house sellers will have to commission a home report before they even put their property on the market.

The report will have to include a single survey, an energy report on the building's environmental impact and a completed property questionnaire containing useful information for buyers.

Mr Maxwell said: "We are pressing ahead because this is a good system. It will benefit all buyers and sellers because, for any buyer, they will be presented with very detailed information about the biggest financial decision they will ever make. In particular, first-time buyers will pay nothing at all, because the survey will be provided by the seller."

The move was backed by SNP, Labour and Lib Dem MSPs on the committee. But David McLetchie, the Conservative MSP for Edinburgh Pentlands, who was the only committee member to vote against the move, claimed pilot schemes showed the system was unworkable.

He quoted Scottish Consumer Council claims that low-income sellers would be hit by the changes. And he said the government's own figures showed the only winners would be surveyors, with annual earnings expected to rise from £25-£40 million to £57.6-£83.2 million.

Richard Loudon, of the Edinburgh Conveyancers Forum, said: "We believe it is naive to expect purchasers to accept a seller's survey as their sole guide to the value of the house.

"Most purchasers will want to commission their own surveys after their offers have been accepted, in order to get their own independent view on condition and value. Also, the seller's survey may not be accepted by the purchaser's lender. It may be out of date by the time the loan application is made."

HOME REPORT AVAILABLITY

UNDER the new system, everyone who puts a house on the market will have to produce a home report.

This will be drawn up with the help of solicitors, estate agents or the person marketing the property, to get it into the right format.

However, the seller will have to make it available to anyone who is interested in buying the property.

Often this will be done online, with potential buyers given a link to the appropriate pages on the internet, but sellers will have to produce hard copies, possibly dozens.

DETAILED INFORMATION PACK

THE Home Report will contain three documents at a cost of about £400-£500. These will be:

&149 a single survey prepared by a chartered surveyor containing detailed information on property condition, accessibility information and a valuation;

&149 an energy efficiency rating and the property's environmental impact in terms of emissions;

• a property questionnaire to give prospective buyers useful information, such as parking arrangements, factoring and any alterations undertaken.



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1

Ian Bliar’s biatch, Brett Lovegrove,

31/01/2008 00:35:30
This site should be renamed "Yesterday's News"
2

Copper,

Falkirk 31/01/2008 01:48:03
Would that be TAXI Mcletchie the well known thief ???

This move means that the same survey is not done time and time again
Six survey fees for the same house can be normal

Having sold houses I know just how little time some Surveyors spend in a house.
To site staffs it is a joke and the worse/fastest Surveyors are timed

The Surveyors and Lawyers should be ashamed that this fraud has existed so long
3

Legacy,

31/01/2008 01:59:38
What if it's a Used Car Salesman selling his house?
Who honestly would NOT commission their OWN survey when buying a House?
Answer: A Fool!
It's only lining the pockets of them that are well lined already.
4

Jayson Walker,

Western USA 31/01/2008 06:19:09
This is the most assenine bit of trips I've ever heard of! In order for a person to sell a home, with NO guarantee that the home will be sold, he must pay a ransom, a bribe. Well done, stupids!
5

Mark Renton,

Edinburgh 31/01/2008 06:21:11
Fact: 99% of offers are made "subject to survey". Anybody who claims that multiple unnecessary surveys are made is a complete idiot.

Question: Is it really the government's place to enforce a requirement of pre-valuation? I don't think so. What is next? Will we be required to sell our properties for whatever value these idiot surveyors declare them to be?
6

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31/01/2008 06:29:17
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Jayson Walker,

31/01/2008 06:31:08
Tripe, I meant to type, not "trips". (Adding) All this will do is ultimately burden the buyer, for the cost will be passed on, rest assured. Also, should the home not sell, and the person trying to sell their home not have a spare grand lying around, what is he/she to do?
8

GLW,

Tbilisi & Falkirk 31/01/2008 07:30:33
This legislation seems to assume that houses will sell quickly. If we go in to recession and a house takes 12 or 18 months to sell would you accept an out of date sellers report?
9

Iain fae Elgin,

London 31/01/2008 07:31:49
£500? Set against astronomical price rises?

What would the Scots do if they couldn't moan?
10

ddmc,

31/01/2008 08:02:59
what makes you think that the survey the buyer gets is any better than the sellers, there full of exclusions & get out clauses anyway.

Are all the posters who are calling folks idiots or fools implying that surveyors are prepared to provide misleading & fraudulent surveys for £500 quid a time ?
11

Dbxsteve,

West Kilbride 31/01/2008 08:17:22
An energy efficiency rating??? Here is another totally useless and costly idea....a whole new industry now has to appear with 'Energy Efficiency Consultants' driving around the country (or will they come on wind powered push bikes) to tell us what can be gleaned by asking a few simple questions: does the house have double glazing - check; does the house have loft insulation - check; does the house have its own nuclear power station or wind farm in the garden?

Honestly what a load of tosh...has anyone looked at the environmental impact and cost of implementing this nonsense?
12

Gobsmacked,

west kilbride 31/01/2008 08:32:25
#6, #7, and #13 are right - what a load of nonsense, the government interfering in yet another aspect of people's lives. As to #11, it's "about" £500. Wait and see how many houses that applies to, and how long it stays at 'about £500'. I buy and sell houses for a living and this scheme will do nothing to improve the system.

#5, first time buyers will still have to pay for a mortgage valuation survey.
13

TheFife,

Beverly Hills 31/01/2008 08:42:45
Listen, People.

This is a democracy, right? That's the beginning presumption.

All we have to do as an intelligent and informed electorate is to wait until the votes take place and you make note of how your representative voted. Then you take that searing memory with you to the polls next time and see to it that person never gets elected to even "dog catcher" again if he ratifies this garbage.

In the mean time you can burn up their call lines with the passion I see here.

Otherwise, we are all already getting what we disserve.

14

Xena - Warrior Princess,

31/01/2008 08:58:27
If the buyer still has to pay for a mortgage survey, this is a complete piece of nonsense.
15

GRC1959,

Scotland 31/01/2008 08:59:40
#7 - Agree, there are NEVER (well, almost) multiple surveys on a property. Offers are always tendered 'subject to survey', and only the successful bidder has to have a survey carried out.

Even the BBC report on this legislation says "Under the current system, each prospective buyer has to pay for a survey of a property."

WRONG, WRONG, WRONG

Or are there any selling agents out there with a different view?
16

Senzible,

Edinburgh 31/01/2008 09:14:58
Are you all mad!!! Large majority of those selling properties will also be buying a new property. This means they will not have to pay a fee for the survey of there (new) purchased property!!! Also you will no longer have to pay to have a survey done only to discover all the faults with the property which would put you off buying. 1st time buyers will now not have an extre fee to pay in an already very expensive process. Rant over!
17

Alan B,

31/01/2008 09:24:53
Buying a house in scotland is abit of a nightmare.

We should definitely move away from multiple surveys. Subject to survey is one way to do this but has other issues.

One aspect is the quality of surveys is very poor.The biggest change here would be to make surveyors liable. The surveys have so many disclaimers they are almost worthless. Many surveys are just value surveys for mortgage purposes only. one of the best bits of advice i got was to get a separate roofing report.

Surveyors also use the cop out of not having access to certain areas in order to increase the disclaimers.

A survey from the sellor where the surveyor was liable would reduce the problems.

The other bad bits of the system are the closed bids part.

The most difficult being the organisation of a mortgage. This really needs looked at. There is no reason it takes mortgage lender so long to approve the mortgage. From my own experience they verbally approve quickly but then take donkeys for it to be official. Your own lawyer will be pushing u to sign the contract for the house even though they must know the time the lender takes. It was made worse for me as the lender could not decide if they offered the product they had sold me or not. going back and forward saying that they did, then they did not. Back and forward about 3 times each. Only for them to decide they did not but could offer something very similar but called something else.
18

Alan B,

31/01/2008 09:26:30
cont.. the other advantage of seller survey is that u will not have to adjust the price offered based on the result of the survey. Something that will happen with subject to survey methods.
19

Jock ex 45Cdo RM,

THORNHILL 31/01/2008 09:37:57
Is this the end of 'photo copy surveys'? Speaking as a puchaser of six properties, I was hacked off with paying for a photo-copy. It does seem that the losers are both solicitors/estate agents and the purist estate agents who will feel the draught. Methinks they protesteth too much!
At the present neither the Legal beagles nor the Dell Boy estate agents have few if any qualifications on property surveys.
In th elist of six properties I have puchased, two wre 'new built' and on reflection a professional survey would have been very helpful.
20

Troup Towns,

Aberdeenshire 31/01/2008 09:39:29
The single survey may well be a defunct system that represents nothing but a ransom. The very people it is designed to help will be disappointed as mortgage companies ask for separate valuation surveys. After all, when a buyer asks for a survey, the contract is between the buyer and the surveyor with the view to advising a lender. However, when a seller asks for a survey - who is the contract with then?

I don't think it will save anyone any money. There is alot of running around involved for lawyers when dealing with lenders and the single survey may complicate this further.

Do you negotiate a price on the basis of the single survey? Or do you negotiate after getting a scheme 1 or 2 survey yourself.

The property system in Scotland prides itself on providing greater certainty than the English system of exchanging contracts. This could be undermined.



21

Metal Mickey,

31/01/2008 09:39:30
A farcical proposal and one which suggests little understanding of the way that the housing & mortgage markets operate in Scotland. Multiple surveys just do not happen any more due to the buyer's "subject to survey" clause and the majority of lenders will insist on a valuation being undertaken by their appointed surveyors. All this legislation will do is result in two surveys being undertaken for each property sale when, at the moment, there is normally just one.
22

Arfur,

31/01/2008 09:41:03
some comments on here are so stupid its unreal.

99.999999% of folk selling a house will be buying a house and when your buying you may need to get surveys on 3/4 houses costing over a grand.

also i doubt solicitors are not going to take bungs to make a survey better.
23

joppa jock,

Huntingdon 31/01/2008 09:41:40
These Home Information Packs are already the law in England, requiring all sorts ofnonsense about how green your house is. The fact is that nobody wants them and estate agents have confirmed that very few people have any interest in them when buying a property. HIP's are the idea of Hopelessly Incompetent Politicians with the sole purpose of extracting more cash from the house owner.
24

sam the god,

31/01/2008 09:46:01
just up the asking price by £1000.00 thus making another £500.00 profit
25

OscarMacApfel,

Dumfries 31/01/2008 09:48:30
Shouldn't the headline be:

Buyers to save up to £3000 on cost of moving house


26

Chris.J,

Edinburgh 31/01/2008 09:50:50
"Seller's survey will add £500 to cost of moving house"

... Only for the seller, who won't then have to pay for a survey at the new house they're buying. Doh! Just can't fault the intelligence of this sub-editor... :)

Let's face it, the Solicitors & Estate Agents are bound to oppose this because it means they won't be able to charge hundreds of pounds to sell the same thing to loads of people. Its a bit of legalised scam.

As for the Hootsman? Well, the number of market ramping "Edinburgh house prices to defy global economic downturn and increase by loads and loads despite already being massively overpriced" type stories planted by their mates in the housing industry tells us where their loyalties lie....
27

Scotguy31,

East Lothian 31/01/2008 09:56:15
re. No..25, who is this fool?? if you choose to do a survey prior to having an offer accepted then you deserve to pay out thousands. In all my years of selling houses I have never sold one that has not been subject to survey and ultimately on ocassion there is a little further negotiation...rarely at that.
As per a Mortgage Survey being required, this will always remaijn the case for the lender and unless every surveying company is accepted then 2 survey will be required under the new rulings... which could result in conflict of information as both may be different.... I agree it would save a 1st time buyer a little money.. not a huge amount in the scheme of things. Also will completely disable trying to achieve a better price for your home, especially as when a survey is carried out at present there is sometimes up to a 10% variance available to the surveyors valuation.... The English need this, the Scottish system does not.... just dont do your survey first !!
28

Harbinger,

UK, province of the EU 31/01/2008 09:56:23
This is to comply with EU legislation on energy monitoring. They never could say no, but no-one ever admits that we are no longer in control of our own country.
29

Scotguy31,

East Lothian 31/01/2008 09:59:30
Re... No 29, your comment:
' Let's face it, the Solicitors & Estate Agents are bound to oppose this because it means they won't be able to charge hundreds of pounds to sell the same thing to loads of people. Its a bit of legalised scam.
'

And what is it that they are charging hundreds of pounds for exactly??? they dont do or charge for surveys.... they only receive payment for property sold regardless of who buys it !!

Dont think even you understand the system !!
30

GP,

31/01/2008 10:02:02
swings and roundabouts.
31

GRC1959,

Scotland 31/01/2008 10:11:32
Is there anyone reading this who has actually, TRULY commssioned multiple surveys for a number of properties they were thinking of buying....?

If so, please tell us why you did this, and didn't make any offers 'subject to survey' ....?
32

Upbeat,

31/01/2008 10:14:19
In the article Mr Maxwell is quoted as saying " In particular, first-time buyers will pay nothing at all, because the survey will be provided by the seller."

Well he should wake up and face reality. The Buyer will ultimately pay for the survey...it will be included in the price asked for the property, passed on directly to the buyer. No owner of property is going to lose out. Prices will simply rise by the £500 - £1000 necessary to accomodate the desire of surveyors to get richer.

The seller wants a good survey, the buyer does not want to pay for one, but the Mortgageg lender will want to do another one..what is to be changed ? Just the rules which make the purchase of property even more protracted and costly.

Anyway...would it not have been more sense for the Scottish Parliament to have waited until it is quite certain that the Single survey rules introduced in England and Wales prove to be workable and worthwhile. ? At present there, single survey looks to be a 'damp squib', and does not work as intended.
33

The Rattler,

Peebles 31/01/2008 10:20:03
It's long gone since multiple surveys have been common. In the vast majority of cases, offers are now made 'subject to survey', and the survey only commissioned when an offer had been successful. The Scottish market was more or less regulating itself but we will now see new companies springing up offering HIPs where I don't think they are really needed.
34

Chris.J,

Edinburgh 31/01/2008 10:30:19
#34 - When its a market with competitive buyers, offers subject to survey are not considered as favourably and so buyers may avoid taking that risk. In the current falling market this may not be as big an issue, but that doesn't mean we should ignore an issue that will return when we start to experience growth.

#32. Maybe I should have said the "housing industry", which also includes the surveyors that you pay the fee to. But maybe you understand the point full well and you're just being deliberately obtuse. Maybe also you don't understand how business works if you think that surveyor's never pay commission to the person that refers them... perhaps like the solictor who you make you offer through.

Anyway, all in all, the same vested industry sqeals that we heard down south with the introduction of HIPs.
35

C U Jimmy,

Ayrshire 31/01/2008 10:48:25
Having to pay for a survey on a property that has already had more surveys done than I have hot dinners is just a plain and simple rip off, and as expected the greasy fingered estate agents and lawyers are squealing like stuck pigs. This change is long overdue.
36

Maurice,

Fife 31/01/2008 11:06:21
Many countries this obligation lies with the institution that provides the mortgage. After all, until the house is payed off, it still belongs too them.
37

Captainofedinburgh,

Edinburgh 31/01/2008 11:10:07
There are clearly alot of people commenting here who have little to no idea of what they're talking about. Multiple surveys are a very rare occurance now due to the "subject to survey" system. Only the person with the winning bid will have to instruct a survey. Not every single bidder. And anyone who submits a binding bid without a survey is quite frankly an idiot.

In respect to Mortage Valuations, these are so short and have such little detail on them because this is what the lenders want. They provide surveyors with check list forms to fill in and that's what the surveyor will do. Anything else is outwith their remit. If you want a more detailed survey, instruct a Scheme 2. Then the Surveyor WILL enter the roof space, WILL go onto the roof etc etc. And to suggest that Surveyors pay solicitors a commision for instruting them is laughable. The surveyor charges the solicitor, not the other way round.

Just how many people are going to 100% trust the SELLER'S survey anyway?! Surely the majority of buyers are going to feel far more secure instructing their own survey. This Single Survey system has been poorly thought out from the beginning and is a complete waste of time and will serve to change very little.
38

Biker,

Ayr 31/01/2008 11:11:50
I seem to remember that this sysytem came in for much critisisn in england when implimented. Why are we trying to re-invent the wheel, as i dont remember any of this in manifestos
39

Filosofo,

Kirkcaldy 31/01/2008 11:41:51
hmmmm............
40

PoI2,

31/01/2008 12:04:20
"he(David McLetchie) said the government's own figures showed the only winners would be surveyors, with annual earnings expected to rise from £25-£40 million to £57.6-£83.2 million."

If true this suggests to me that presently many house purchases are concluded without a full survey.

Personally I welcome the new single survey regulations. The energy efficiency survey is particularly important. I suspect many buyers are more impressed by a new kitchen than a well insulated loft so a new survey will encourage then to give greater attention to energy use.
41

Saoghal Beag,

31/01/2008 12:15:28
#31 Harbinger, at least you have pointed out that the energy certificates are to comply with EU legislation. What they should be are measured energy certificates, even on new build so that those builders that use bubble wrap and tin foil, badly installed and therefore build inefficient homes would be flagged up and people could at least avoid their dodgey shacks.

SiriusB there are a lot worse than flatted properties, with only one heat loss wall, traditional sandstone mid-floor flats may not be that bad and certainly not as bad as a semi-detached non-traditional, steel framed house with pured concrete or steel as a skin.
42

bluehead,

edinburgh 31/01/2008 12:36:42
the madness of london has moved up here,a five year old child could tell them that this will make buying snd selling houses much more slower and add all these
extra costs to people who are already suffering as the whole country slides down the lavvy pan.
this country has turned into a gigantic madhouse
43

treacleswamp,

31/01/2008 13:01:39
Asked about one when selling, but solicitors weren't interested. Would have helped
44

Finbarr Saunders,

31/01/2008 13:03:50
#39 - CU Jimmy - Spot on.

45

treacleswamp,

31/01/2008 13:03:54
..speed of sale and price acheived. Anyone who disagrees has something to hide.
46

Bien E. Bien,

31/01/2008 13:31:45
Anyone accepting a seller's survery would likely also accept the explanation given to me when looking at a car I was considering buying: that the "Check Engine Light" was only on because the car had been given regular rather than premium petrol at the last fill up. New oxygen sensor? Nah.

Didn't fall for it then and won't fall for it now.
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31/01/2008 13:42:38
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grannie,

East Kilbride Glasgow 31/01/2008 13:47:43
I agree that this is one of the better ideas. My daughter had to pay for numerous surveys when buying a house only to find that someone increased their offer and she after having a surveys done was out of pocket by hundreds of pounds and still had to find a house.Only people who would be harmed, in my view, are lawyers estate agents and other in the business. Surveyers are known to survey the same property for umteen buyers and charging the same fee for walking into the same house time and time again.
49

Captainofedinburgh,

Edinburgh 31/01/2008 13:54:14
The same Surveyor will not value the same house on a number of different occasions for different people. It's called conflict of interest.
50

brettgallacher,

edinburgh 31/01/2008 14:02:11
whose against this oh i only the people who make a fortune doing multiple surveys ive heard of banks making people buying a house have a survey then send them a bill for 200 quid knowing they already had the survey done by someone else who already tried to buy the house if you try and buy a house and get a survey you can gaurentee this same house has had numerous surveys by the same guy who will just copy first one but charge you a mint
51

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 31/01/2008 14:02:44
These surveys will only have a three month shelf life. If your house hasn't sold by then, the lender would ask for another to be undertaken.

This whole proposal came out of the blue and is utterly insane. I don't need protection from the Government when buying or selling a private asset.
52

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 31/01/2008 14:05:07
#54 You really don't know what you are letting yourself in for.
53

Captainofedinburgh,

Edinburgh 31/01/2008 14:08:23
In response to 54, please read my comment at 53. Only the most corrupt or incompetent of surveyors will carry out multiple surveys of the same property for different people. The vast majority will turn away the business if they have already inspected the house on behalf of another client. And seeing as it takes 6 years to become a fully qualified surveyor, there's a bit more to it than simply "photo-copying reports".
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531 Biker,

NQ 31/01/2008 14:21:39
This whole thing was started off by Wendy Alexander who obviously received bad advice when trying to buy a house and ended up shelling out for multiple surveys.

Offers subject to survey have been the norm in the Edinburgh area (the rapid Edinburgh market was the main issue) for a couple of years now so multiple surveys not an issue and it is not that common for prices to be renegotiated particularly as at a closing date the "winner" knows there may be others waiting in the wings.

More of an issue is who the surveyor bears a responsibility to in the event the eventual buyer has an issue with the survey post settlement. I know that the idea is that his responsibility will be to the buyer, but not sure how it will work in practice.

I don't have an issue with sellers packs of info being prepared in advance of marketing but think most buyers will be happier instructing their own surveys.
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GRC1959,

31/01/2008 14:27:37
#52 - well, only 1 out of 57 here seems to have paid for more than one survey, rather than offering 'subject to survey'; not sure I get the exact picture from #52's description, but maybe later.....

Not exactly a high proportion for this (admittedly, limited) sample.
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GRC1959,

31/01/2008 14:29:20
Oh, OK; Wendy paid for multiples; that's 2 out of 61 now.
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Invitrospud,

31/01/2008 15:13:44
This system is way overdue, I remember years ago complaining about surveyors making money for old rope by making multiple surveys. They were the only ones against bringing in this system, and now that it's finally here it's not needed because everyone offers 'subject to survey', you'd be a fool not to.
Just shows how out of touch these law makers are. As for writing an 'energy rating' and useful info like council tax band and parking - these are the things I just ask about! or are bleedin' obvious. Why does it have to cost so much more than the present surveys? Are the surveyors honestly trying to tell us they're going to do more for their money? aye right! Surveys on my flat took about 10 min max. A survey I commissioned actually told me that an area of garden needed tidied up - very informative!
#53 it was common practise to buy someone else's survey if you didn't have time to get one done.
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Tinman,

Inverness 31/01/2008 15:20:54
I doubt any lender will accept a survey which they have not instructed. What responsibility does the seller's surveyor have if something was missed?
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531 Biker,

31/01/2008 15:22:04
#63 only common to buy someone's valuation if no time to get a survey done. You can only buy in to a survey with the consent of the person who instructed it.

A lot of people instruct valuations (Scheme 1) which are really intended for use by a lender and are not really surveys, rather than a survey (Scheme 2) which also includes a valuation.
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531 Biker,

31/01/2008 15:23:14
#64 that is the main point, though I understand plan is for insurance re claims. However relative responsibility is my main concern re single surveys.
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tomislav,

The surveyors guild house 31/01/2008 17:31:00
"""Oh what a beautiful morning, oh what a beautiful ay, oh what a beautiful morning, everythings going my way"""""" ,,,, """" ogo ogi ogi, SNP for ever """""
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Edward,

31/01/2008 18:25:32
#1 AM2
actually this was something that was started by the previous administration. As per usual it was Labour in Scotland copycating the really crap HIP's (Home Improvement Pack's) which is now mandatory when selling a house in England. The idea was to speed up selling and buying houses and do away with the so called chain thatthey have in England. Guess what, it does nothing of the kind, just adds in another level of rubbish and makes money for surveyors and estate agents
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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 31/01/2008 18:58:20
Ah! The good old days when a house was a home for living in. Before all these tv programmes telling us how to speculate and push the price up.

Believe it all began with Blair buying his little property in Islington this time round. Then there was Mandelson of course.

So what is the problem with adding a few hundred pounds onto the mortgage someone is going to have to pay on a £150,000 matchbox that was worth £80,000 a few years ago?
64

Stephen fae Scotland,

SF & Edin 31/01/2008 19:11:17
This is yet more gesture politics - for Gawd's sake Scotland - wake up!

As for comments like "this is a democracy...." No one sold this idea, no party stood on this platform, no manifesto plege on this carried a party into power - this is the sort of thing that comes out of the dark arts of political horsetrading, plain and simple. This iswhat the LibDems love and what our magic new Pretendy parliament has given us. Unless parties are stopped from smoke-filled-room dealing, all sorts of unsold, unwanted and previously unannounced burdens are going to gush out of the foul smelling Holyrood spiggot!
65

puskas,

East Kilbride 31/01/2008 19:52:17
Hamish your headline is bullshit....

66

puskas,

East Kilbride 31/01/2008 19:53:08
Another good decision by the Scottish Government
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Stephen fae Scotland,

SF & Edin 31/01/2008 20:13:09
As I read this - a lot of the venting is barely concealed (or not at all concealed) contempt for surveyors. (I am NOT a surveyor) For people with that attitude, this change will make NO difference - all it means is you are expected to accept what somone else's surveyor says about a property rather than your own surveyor. At least if you are paying for the services of a 'greedy surveyor' (your words not mine) even if you dislike the necessity of the service, aren't you going to want someone that is YOUR 'greedy surveyor' as opposed to the other guy's? Of course your are!

This whole thing is yet more play acting by third rate toon cooncllers fae toy toon!
68

Miss Jean Brodie,

31/01/2008 23:18:40
Want tae buy ma hoose - take a risk !
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GRC1959,

01/02/2008 00:10:18
If the homeowner doesn't produce the Information Pack, and none of the prospective buyers ask to see it, and the eventual buyer commissions their own survey, what then?

What's the penalty for failing to provide the pack?
A small fine? A large fine? Seizure of the house?
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Royster,

01/02/2008 05:51:23
So now we don't have the brains to check things for ourselves. This report just adds bureacracy. Typical left-wing nonsense from Labour and SNP.

 

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