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Revealed: BBC under attack for 'pro-SNP' coverage



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Published Date: 06 July 2008
SCOTTISH Labour chiefs have openly accused BBC journalists of pro-SNP bias in a bitter attack on the corporation's political coverage north of the border.
Labour specifically complains about BBC reporters using the phrase "London Government", claiming it is calculated to inflame anti-UK opinion.

Party chiefs have also called on the corporation to provide training on how to be impartial.

The claims, in an official letter from Scottish Labour to the Scottish Government's Broadcasting Commission, have been angrily denied by BBC journalists and were condemned as a "paranoid rant" by the SNP.

The letter was written by Labour's Scottish General Secretary, Colin Smyth. He complained: "Particularly in relation to journalists and senior editorial staff in BBC Scotland, there are legitimate concerns about the use of certain terminology in describing the political process.

"For example, references to the 'London government' are clearly designed to elicit a certain reaction and should be avoided by journalists."

He added: "Such editorial decisions place the broadcasters in the uncomfortable position of appearing to be a partial contributor to, rather than a neutral observer and interpreter of, political events.

"This is obviously unsatisfactory, and why the BBC should consider providing guidance to BBC Scotland editorial and journalistic staff to ensure both neutrality and consistency."

The letter said Labour was opposed to broadcasting becoming a devolved matter and that the party did not agree there should be a "Scottish Six" which would deliver a mixture of Scottish, UK and international news edited for Scottish audiences.

A Labour insider said: "BBC Scotland is pretty Scot Nat and anti-Labour. They give us a much harder time than they give the Nats.

"They have never forgiven us since Iraq and everyone knows it. They have been obsessed with Dungavel (detention centre] and made it their mission to get it shut down.

"They think they are the opposition and that they are the voice of civic Scotland. They are not; they are there to report the news and that is it."

Pete Murray, BBC Scotland's National Union of Journalists spokesman, said: "Journalists at BBC Scotland are strong enough and secure enough in their own professional ethics not to have to take lessons from the Labour party or any other party."

And a senior BBC Scotland news insider added: "This attack says a lot more about them than it does about us.

"I think that Labour can't get used to the fact that they are not in charge any more here and they can't tell people what to do.

"We are completely impartial and they know it. The BBC has rooms of people who make a living from devising forms of words which will be impartial and free of bias.

"We have looked at using phrases like 'the Parliament of the United Kingdom in Westminster' or 'the Government of the United Kingdom in Whitehall' and similar phrases, but they are pretty long-winded, and you want something shorter and snappier."

Pete Wishart, the Nationalists' Westminster broadcasting spokesman, said: "Labour seem happy for Scotland to be left with a second-class news service, and their rant is predictable and paranoid, as well as insulting to journalists.

"Arguing that Scotland should not have a Scottish Six, and that we should continue to have news and current affairs services that are irrelevant and at times misleading, is not a clever or considered contribution to the debate. "

A source close to First Minister Alex Salmond said: "The Labour submission is a disgrace – it is an extraordinary attack on the integrity and impartiality of BBC Scotland journalists.

"The Scottish Broadcasting Commission has been welcomed right across Scottish society as a key initiative in boosting the industry in Scotland, but for the Labour Party it has clearly struck a raw nerve."

A Scottish Tory spokesman said: "The Labour party can spend its time in the politics of grudge and grievance, or they can become like the Scottish Conservatives and look to the future of Scottish broadcasting, and back us in calling for a new Scottish digital channel which can be the best of Scotland and showcase the best of Scottish."

In a statement, a BBC Scotland spokeswoman said: "We recognise the importance of accurate and impartial language. We make every effort to ensure the appropriate terminology is used."

In the run-up to the 2007 Scottish Parliament elections, Labour sent a delegation of top party officials to give BBC Scotland a "strong warning" against being too easy on the SNP in its political coverage.

Some Labour insiders believe that many mid-ranking BBC Scotland staff are SNP sympathisers, and used a pre-election meeting to express their unease about some BBC political coverage.

Senior Labour figures in London are believed to still harbour a grievance against the BBC over the David Kelly affair and the corporation's coverage of the UK Government's case for the invasion of Iraq in 2003.

Some BBC executives still believe they were unfairly treated over the affair: Greg Dyke, the director general, was forced to resign in the wake of the Hutton Report into Dr Kelly's death.


The full article contains 853 words and appears in Scotland On Sunday newspaper.
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Big Red,

Aberdeen 05/07/2008 23:28:06

So unbelievable I had to read this twice to see if it was true.

This from the party who plants activists in 'Question Time. The party who controls the Daily Record and The Scotsman (haha) in Scotland. The party who lies, lies and lies again to try and save their own skins.

To all who read this, Scotland needs you. Get on to www.snp.org and donate your time and/or cash.

Help stop Labour in their lying tracks.



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monkey man,

05/07/2008 23:57:23
Does anyone even watch regional news like BBC Scotland anyway.? Its embarrassing and never to be taken seriously. Like the rest of the overwhelming majority in Scotland I switch over to ITN at 6-30 every night.
3

druidh,

edinburgh 06/07/2008 00:08:31
Kirsty Wark - pro Nat??


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06/07/2008 00:10:21
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Vivas,

Edinburgh 06/07/2008 00:12:21
Hilarious !

However, SLAB will attack and lie and attack and lie and attack and attack... It's the wounded animal syndrome. It's fighting for it's very life ... and as much as it's figure of political fun ... it will spit out as much bile, lies and hate as it can in the next 2 years. This hilarious SNP media-bias nonsense is just a symptom of that.
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Iainbroch,

Moray 06/07/2008 00:12:51
BBC Pro - Nat LOL!

I guess the Labour Party is on the run over the Glasgow East bye bye Gordon election
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The Moog,

Edinburgh 06/07/2008 00:14:43
I can't even believe I am reading this story after the hugely labour biased question time on Thursday!

There has never been an SNP bias in the media in Scotland. Time for Leibour to realise you LOST the election!!!
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06/07/2008 00:17:55
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Mercutio,

FALKIRK 06/07/2008 00:17:56
BBC is accused of bias by Labour,SNP posters on this site accusing the BBC and the Scottish Media of bias.
I didn't hear any complaints from either when BBC Scotland and the majority of Scottish journalists were actively promoting devolution.
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Andrew BOD,

Aberdeenshire 06/07/2008 00:18:08
LABOUR ARE LOSING IT BIG-STYLE.

Another example of where they are in denial. They have been in power too long in Scotland, and these politically motivated remarks are a symptom of that. They no longer speak for the people of Scotland, and they no longer stand up for Scotland. Compare this outburst with the recent findings of the BBC Trustees, charged with canvassing opinion about the BBC in Scotland. They are miles apart, but this is no surprise: Labour have lost touch with the people they represent.

I hope the good people of Glasgow's East End have discovered this for themselves, and that they don't vote again for the donkey with the red rosette.
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The Moog,

Edinburgh 06/07/2008 00:19:29
Mercutio - remind me when that was? Certainly not on this rag!!!
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Rasco,

Inverness 06/07/2008 00:20:24
I thought the 1st of April was past.
13

Yeti,

06/07/2008 00:23:44
The fact that all political parties, when in power, accuse the BBC of bias would seem to suggest that the BBC is, if fact, fair
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Jimmy the Pie,

06/07/2008 00:23:44
I must have been hallucinating watching Question Time then!!
15

monkey man,

06/07/2008 00:25:06
Scottish Labour have really got their opponents sporrans in a twist.! lol
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The Moog,

Edinburgh 06/07/2008 00:25:18
you must have been Jim - that wasn'y folks from musselburgh that were in the audience....a carefully selected few....
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06/07/2008 00:26:03
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ThomasP,

06/07/2008 00:28:42
Labour are getting worse by the day.

BBC in general are biased against the SNP and in favour of the Union yet the SNP have to deal with it.

To me, 'London Government' is reasonable. It is a Government...in London afterall.
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monkey man,

06/07/2008 00:29:18
#17

Maybe that's because Holyrood isn't a Government and never will be taken seriously as one either.

Westminster is the only recognised seat of Government to normal people.
20

The Moog,

Edinburgh 06/07/2008 00:32:13
i don't consider someone with the name Monkey to be normal
21

ThomasP,

06/07/2008 00:33:37
monkey man.

Are you Gordon Brown? Your name gives it away...
22

monkey man,

06/07/2008 00:34:46
#20

The average intelligence of even the lower simians is higher than your average BNP and SNP voter. No doubt about that....
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The Moog,

Edinburgh 06/07/2008 00:36:01
That is only your opinion....which doesn't count for much really.........
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ThomasP,

06/07/2008 00:37:07
monkey man.

#22

and yet the SNP are in Government in Scotland and high in the polls compared to other parties.

What does that say about the other parties?
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06/07/2008 00:40:22
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06/07/2008 00:42:20
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Senga Jean,

06/07/2008 00:43:14
I am Scottish. I pay a license fee. I wish to know if a news report refers to London Government or Scottish Government. I would in fact only like to be governed from Scotland but until that day dawns I wish to know the difference.
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06/07/2008 00:43:37
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ThomasP,

06/07/2008 00:44:20
monkey man.

#25

You are one idiot. You are a complete joke and shows how popular the SNP are since you want to link them to the BNP and racism to damage their reputation
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06/07/2008 00:44:53
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06/07/2008 00:45:54
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monkey man,

06/07/2008 00:46:46
#26

Wee Fatty Salmond can call the laughable sham of Holyrood anything he likes, even as pompous and grand a title as a "government", but nobody takes it or him in particular seriously.
33

Schot,

06/07/2008 00:47:09
Labour attacked the BBC for being 'anti-war' at a time they were the most pro-war channel, according to Stirling Uni & (I think) Cardiff Uni analysis.

Every corrupt, unfit party claims bias even when that bias is in fact towards them. It's called propaganda.
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ThomasP,

06/07/2008 00:47:47
#28

London Olympics is expected to cost over 20 bill from the original 9 bill.

Is Labour any better at counting?

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ThomasP,

06/07/2008 00:50:20
#31

The SNP are actually on target. The Tories also support this part of the SNP policy and since they are not complaing then I guess they are on target.

Afterall, only Labour think the SNP have the magic powers of creating 1000 new policemen/woman in day one of Government
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06/07/2008 00:50:58
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Jock Fox,

06/07/2008 00:50:59
#27,

I agree.

I watch BBC News and wonder which government they are talking about.
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06/07/2008 00:52:27
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06/07/2008 00:52:52
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Jock Fox,

06/07/2008 00:53:29
And then I punch myself for thinking that the Pretend Parly could ever be properly described as the presence of a government.
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ThomasP,

06/07/2008 00:53:41
#36

You represent the small minority who are not happy with the SNP Gov, the very small minority.
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06/07/2008 00:53:43
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CandymanVXR,

06/07/2008 00:54:15













Saor Alba :)
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ThomasP,

06/07/2008 00:54:57
#39

The SNP are very bad at playing the racism card then since several SNP figures were born in England, idiot.
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Jock Fox,

06/07/2008 00:55:03
#39,

Margaret Curran went to a school the local electorate will approve of then?
46

Jock Fox,

06/07/2008 00:58:50
W1lly Wonka has a Corsa with only 42,000 miles on the clock!
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monkey man,

06/07/2008 01:00:59
# 44

Sheer tokenism. Even the SNP's fellow nationalists and compadres the BNP have had Asian candidates at elections. Its embarrassing that Scotland has such an extremist political party as the SNP.
48

ThomasP,

06/07/2008 01:01:05
#38

I would like you to compare the recruitment levels of police from the last Gov Administration with the SNP's first year in Gov.

You will find out the SNP have managed to recruit more police then past Governments and also notice that some policemen and woman are retiring so it is just bad timing.

Of course you are out to make the SNP look bad at every corner. Does it matter if they are recruiting more police then ever since on paper the amount retiring are out weighing the amount recruited?
49

ThomasP,

06/07/2008 01:03:30
#44

You really are an idiot. The SNP and BNP are not related. To be fair the party names should say it all.

So, which SNP MSP took your seat at the last elections? You sound like one of those whinging Labour msp'S
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06/07/2008 01:08:14
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monkey man,

06/07/2008 01:14:59
#49

ALL "nationalist" parties all share the same political DNA, as do the BNP and SNP. They rely and subsist on to exist the following ; insularity, parochialism and a hatred of a certain grouping as a scapegoat.

Also, what is the difference between the rise in highly reported physical attacks in Scotland against English people than other similar attacks against minorities in England by other racists. ?
52

ThomasP,

06/07/2008 01:16:41
#50

There is no Government that could possibly plan exact numbers of people retiring from work. People as individuals choose.

The SNP have invested and their plans are bringing in more recruits then past Governments. In the long run we will eventually make up for the police who decided to retire and we will gain the extra 1000.

The Tories supported the SNP budget for several reasons, one of them being that 1000 new police will be recruited.

If they are not complaining then the SNP must be getting it right.

You spend wayyy to much time listening to Labour. You don't like the SNP that is fair enough but maybe you should listen to the other opposition parties and maybe then you can be told the right info.
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ThomasP,

06/07/2008 01:21:16
#51

You really are an idiot. Considering there are different types of Nationalism, all different then what you have said is complete bull.

"Also, what is the difference between the rise in highly reported physical attacks in Scotland against English people than other similar attacks against minorities in England by other racists.?"

Evidence please.

Roughly 50% of the English population in Scotland voted for the SNP you idiot.

If you check where the SNP have their seats you will also discover a large ENGLISH population.

You really are an idiot.
54

monkey man,

06/07/2008 01:24:59
#53

You really are naive. The SNP are Nationalist. They would also describe themselves as more socialist than the other political parties. Add Nationalist + Socialist and what do you get.? I think we know...don't you.?
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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 06/07/2008 01:32:11
Let's play Spot The Professional Plants.

I spy with my little eye something smelling like Number 6 and Monkey Man.

Best ignored.
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Willie Macleod,

Wick 06/07/2008 01:35:47
All political parties have complained about bias in the BBC at one time or another. Whats new.
57

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 06/07/2008 01:37:03
Na, na, na, na, na, na. Come on Monkey Man and Number 6, get out of your closets and attack me.
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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 06/07/2008 01:39:51
Bed time. Good night to all decent people. Indecent is fine by me as long as I don't get to see it - apart from that tasty bird next door.
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Edward,

06/07/2008 01:45:10
Typical trick by Labour to try and muzzle BBC Scotland journalists in the run up to the by election.
They tried the very same in the run up to last years election.
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Marky Bhoy,

Dunfermline 06/07/2008 01:46:46

Hey monkey man you sound like you are in pain I would like to donate £2.00 to the Labour party and maybe they can get you some elastoplast which will protect your knuckles as they drag across the fround
61

Richard,

west lothian 06/07/2008 01:52:50
How sad and predictable, my what a nasty piece of work "New Labour" have become.

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KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 06/07/2008 02:13:34
Monkey Man have you put your name forward for nomination as the Labour candidate in Glasgow East. They are looking desperately for anyone, the might even consider simians as this point.

We could then see if that old adage about Monkey's in Red Rosettes holds true. You might do better than a human candidate, you could promise the voters that if elected that the only you would be ordering from John Lewis to furnish your London Home would be a tire swing.
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Dougie Douglas,

Brisbane 06/07/2008 02:20:28
Are there no depths to which the labour party will plunge?

Tomorrow morning it's straight down to the bank - 1000 pounds telegraphic transfer into my mothers account to be donated to the SNP.

Labour ba$tards

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Dougie Douglas,

Brisbane 06/07/2008 02:23:07
Monkeyt Man - you are an A-Grade To$$er

Scottish nationalism = Nazi Germany

British nationalism (brought to you courtesy of the 'socialist' (ahem) Labour party = Good, virtuos and upstanding.

What a tool.
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Longdirk Maceth,

NZ 06/07/2008 03:05:14
51 monkey man, You are a complete to ss er.
My wife is from an "ethnic" background, so my would I be racist against her and people of her colour, living in Scotland.
You are a thick braindead scumbag. How dare you, you piece of trash accuse me of being racist, f@ck off.
Voteing for the SNP is because I feel my country has been ripped off by the London goverment.
The SNP are the party fighting for Scotland, unlike the scum that misruled Scotland for generations. Either you are a English tw@t who hates the Scots or you are an Unionist meathead who can't stand the fact that the Scottish people voted in the SNP.
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Maisie from Morningside,

06/07/2008 03:54:56
It seems the Labour Party is having a sort of panic attack.
Perhaps if they devised some policies instead of whingeing we might take them seriously.
We're all well aware that the SNP is implementing policies which the (Scottish) Labour Party would do if only the London Government would let them.

Whoops - now I'm doing it!!!!
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jarmon,

houston texas 06/07/2008 05:00:39
I grew up an american.And i grew up proud of my dad's scottish roots,and proud of the scottish people.And all of y'all should be proud of your country.Isn't it time for scotland to stand on it's own again,to be it's own man? The scots are a special people who shouldn't be enslaved to the foreign government in london. In the neighborhood i live in,we know what's better for us than the state government knows. And the scots know what is better for them than London does.
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Guga II,

Rockall 06/07/2008 05:56:10
Just because the New Labour Sleaze and Corruption Party (North british Branch) are paranoid, doesn't mean that everyone is not out to get them.
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EWB,

UK 06/07/2008 06:57:57
Anyone who watched "Question Time" from Musselburgh last Thursday would have seen a man in a green shirt in the audience given two bites of the cherry on a Scottish political issue. He claimed that the majority of Scots were not interested in independence and had more air time on the issue than Nicola Sturgeon.
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Geoff,

sa 06/07/2008 07:02:46
The BRITISH Broadcasting Corporation biased in favour of the SNP? Sounds like Turkeys voting for Christmas!
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P Rayner.,

Wuerzburg 06/07/2008 07:03:12
Irrespective of this particular complaint from Labour I certainly think the BBC is working to a political (correct) agenda not in the interests of the mainstream of British people. It should not be their function to support any political party nor should it be their function to promote homosexuality, womens issues, the EU, Africa or Asia. Their world service compares very unfavourably with, say, CNN or Deutsche Wella, giving little UK news while being seemingly obsessed with America, Africa and Asia. It seems to me that as long as this organisation stays within the law it can promote what it likes, but let it raise its own finances other than from the public.
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Geoff,

sa 06/07/2008 07:06:47
67 Jarmon-what a confused post. Scottish people"enslaved to the foreign London Government..." The London Government is led by a SCOT Jarmon. Also you say " we know whats better for us than the State government"? Do you advocate the seccesion of Texas from the Union?
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Geoff,

sa 06/07/2008 07:10:51
71 P Rayner-good post although it must be conceded that it is extraordinarily difficult to present news-particularly political-in a manner that appears to be objective to all. Euronews- a sattelite link TV channel that we receive in SA is my idea of a close to neutral broadcaster.
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Forward not Back,

06/07/2008 07:33:21
Labour complains that the BBC is biased towards the SNP.

Is this the dictionairy definition of "chutzpah"?
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06/07/2008 07:34:25
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Rab The Ranter,

Ayrshire 06/07/2008 07:43:45
#8 Monkey Man.

My dislike of ALL politicians is well documented in these threads.

My pity for the gullible party trolls who flood these threads with their garbage is also well documented.

I neither favour nor support any party, I hold all in EQUAL contempt, but I would NEVER associate any of them with this fascist scum. I understand your desire to hit out at these poor misguided fools, I know you just said it in a moment of frustration. Leave the name calling to "the great and the good".
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Forward not Back,

06/07/2008 07:44:33
#75 - I think Americans are "special".
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Robbie 2,

06/07/2008 07:46:11

54 monkey man,
Re your misuse of the word ‘Nationalism’. The SNP is the Scottish NATIONAL Party. Often used throughout the World when two or more parties unite as in the New Zealand National Party which was formed by the unification of the Liberal and Reform Parties and although which at present are the opposition, have ruled in New Zealand since their formation for more years than any other party. --Absolutely nothing (as any normal sensible person would know) with National Socialism (was that a socialist party?)
Now Mr monkey man, look up the history of ‘Nationalism’ read about the Nationalist Revolutionn in 1848 throughout Europe. Nationalists was aligned with Liberalism against Imperialism and Colonial Empires.
It inspired freedom loving people against the repressive regimes of the Russian Empire, The Austrian- Hungarian Empire, The Ottoman Empire and of course the British Empire.
These were the enemies of small sovereign states, wishing self-determination and peaceful existence with their neighbours - not conquest and war.
Remember what causes ‘health problems’
"Labour MP (David Marshall) spent £500,000 of taxpayers' money running office from home staffed by wife"
http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1032385/Labour-MP-spent-500-000-taxpayers-money-running-office-home-staffed-wife.html





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Dougie Douglas,

Brisbane 06/07/2008 07:49:45
Well said Robbie 2 - there really is little point trying to debate with him - he is a troll - much like Number 6.

NUMBER 6 and MONKEYMAN

Heres your homework:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO5leiwEiTM
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Linda,

Edinburgh 06/07/2008 07:49:47
Don't make me laugh. BBC is stuffed with Labour sympathisers and has never been pro SNP. At Westminster elections there is no attempt to balance coverage going out to Scotland. When last did two Nationalists appear on same panel in Question Time?
Why are audience drafted in from England but not vice versa when Question Time comes from Scotland?
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Dougie Douglas,

Brisbane 06/07/2008 07:51:56
My next door neighbour is a leading figure in the Queensland National Party.

Just excuse me for 5 minutes folks whilst I duck over the fence to give her a shot of my jackboots
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JT,

06/07/2008 07:53:41
What a complete joke, that labour accused the bbc of bias towards the SNP up here! Well heres news for you SNP are trying to run the country, no thanks to you and your london cronies. You have never recognised that the people for whatever reason voted SNP in. Since when did the bbc did impartiality - never. Its not just Scotland that they treat like this, its pretty much everywhere outside the perimeter of the M25. I dont even watch the local news anymore as its not worthy. During the election and the first year, the media has been soo pro labour and anti SNP its been embarassing. Of course politicians make promises that they dont keep, its not just one party that does that, so why is that the media report that the SNP are only doing this. Did labour not lie and cheat their way??
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Kenny A,

06/07/2008 07:57:19
Bloody Hell, this one takes the biscuit and the whole bakery. Must have been in a different dimention recently.
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P Rayner.,

Wuerzburg. 06/07/2008 08:01:46
GEOFF, sa, Geoff I don't think it so difficult for a broadcaster to report items without bias but in doing so those items may tend to be bland. In this day and age bland reporting may not be in the interests of a commercial broadcaster. We are after all living in the age of Hollywood. For a public broadcaster however it is essential. Its primary function should be to present news , entertainment and items of interest to its paymasters, the British people, without taint. As a side issue it should not be its function to pay its contributors salaries far in excess of what its paymasters could only dream of.
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jdships,

06/07/2008 08:08:10
2 Monkey Man

You are having a laff - watch the "Amateur Half Hour" at 18.30 you must be kidding.

This Labour party quote
"BBC Scotland is pretty Scot Nat and anti-Labour. They give us a much harder time than they give the Nats.

"They have never forgiven us since Iraq and everyone knows it. They have been obsessed with Dungavel (detention centre] and made it their mission to get it shut down.

"They think they are the opposition and that they are the voice of civic Scotland. They are not; they are there to report the news and that is it."

shows just how much they have lost credibility.

If it was 1st April I would think it was a joke !!!
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mr angry,

ayrshire 06/07/2008 08:12:34
Hard to believe that people actually tried to debate with the two thick plants that hogged this thread. Pathetic cretins that they are , they only survive if people bite.
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06/07/2008 08:13:09
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06/07/2008 08:17:47
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Mr. Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 06/07/2008 08:21:49
Whenever any government starts complaining about media impartiality, especially in attacks on the BBC, then it is a clear indicator it is in terminal decline!
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LEAL,

06/07/2008 08:29:15
Very childish by Labour.Surely they must realise that,because support for independence is growing across Scotland and in every walk of life,there will be a growing number of SNP sopporters working for the BBC.The crucial thing is that they dont let that affect their work.Are the Labour party embarrassed,or indeed ashamed,that Scotland is ultimately run from London,England?The other media in Scotland ie newspapers,are going to find it increasingly difficult to find journalists to churn out biased articles against the SNP because soon there wont be that many unionist leaning journalists left.
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Kenny A,

06/07/2008 08:33:29
Monkey man

What exactly is your problem.

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Dougie Douglas,

Brisbane 06/07/2008 08:37:58


Time bomb 1
Those mid ranking managers at the BBC who are all, to a man, pesky nats will in a few years not be middle mangers but senior managers. Can you imagine how much 'bias' there will be in 10 years time?

Time bomb 2
Support for the union is strongest amongst the over 65's. Support for Independence is strongest amongst the young. Old people die.
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MisterN,

Scotland 06/07/2008 08:47:20
31 Troll

As I posted before its not the SNP nor the Scottish governments job to recruit police officers its the job of the police force itself.
Its the job of the Scottish government to give them the means by funding to allow them to recruit the extra officers they need. That funding has been allocated.
So why dont you ask ACPOS where the extra officers are the ball is now in their court not the SNPs.
As you well know you sh*t stirring deceitful little troll.
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roughrider,

Glasgow 06/07/2008 08:47:52
Labour are now suffering from paranoid delusions.
I think the phyciatrist they acquired should be doing his job properly and section the whole bunch of the idiotic liebour lunatics.
To suggest the EBC are pro SNP just shows how f*****g
mad labour have become.
Desperate stuff from desperate tossers.
96

MisterN,

Scotland 06/07/2008 08:48:33
Monkey man

Is there any purpose to your posts at all?
97

pehman,

sussex 06/07/2008 08:49:00

Well I sit back and watch which candidate gets interviewed by paxman / Humphery's and which gets interviewed by wark, then we can all judge the bbc
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Colin Wilson,

Aberdeen 06/07/2008 08:50:05
If the BBC is referring to the government of which Gordon Brown is the Prime Minister, they should say "British Government" or "UK Government", not the "London government".

That isn't a question of political bias, but of clarity and accuracy.
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MisterN,

Scotland 06/07/2008 08:51:37
36 Troll

A sweeping statement which of course hasnt been corroborated with any substance.
No explanation as to how you reach your conclusion or any list of failures. Of course any such list would be wide open for correction and exposed for the lies they would surely be.
Like I said the other day you have nothing to offer just a diversion away from the story.
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Jimmy the Pie,

06/07/2008 08:51:50
Where is AM2 these days????
101

Denis,

06/07/2008 08:51:54
It's almost inevitable that the BBC will be biased when it recruits most of its staff through the pages of the Guardian.
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MisterN,

Scotland 06/07/2008 08:52:51
38

Like I said complain to the police force they have the funding now its down to them to do the recruiting.
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MisterN,

Scotland 06/07/2008 08:57:55
39

So unlike your posting today eh?

SNP=BNP when the BNP are as unionist as they come?

Youre not even a bright troll.

And the idiots guide to Scottish history is what they teach in Scottish schools. I bet you were an A student in that subject eh?
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MisterN,

Scotland 06/07/2008 08:59:50
47

So why havent they managed to attract such an obvious extremist like yourself? arent all extremists attracted to extremist parties? which one attracts you?
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MisterN,

Scotland 06/07/2008 09:01:07
50

Why so? its not the Scottish governments job to retain retire or recruit police officers is it?
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MisterN,

Scotland 06/07/2008 09:02:58
51

I suspect its you who attacks all these people when youre released from your cage to go to wee wee and jobby.
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MisterN,

Scotland 06/07/2008 09:04:09
54

Why dont you tell us?
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MisterN,

Scotland 06/07/2008 09:05:57
72

If they vote for it why not?
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Tweedmouth,

Coldstream 06/07/2008 09:08:47
#78 "Nationalists was aligned with Liberalism against Imperialism and Colonial Empires.
It inspired freedom loving people against the repressive regimes of the Russian Empire, The Austrian- Hungarian Empire, The Ottoman Empire and of course the British Empire."

Ermmmm - ever heard of the National Socialist Party - the NAZI party. That was inspired by nationalism - and the main strategy for gaining power was to incite hatred of the neighbouring countries, to claim a 'blood bond, between all 'true' Germans - which made them 'special', the 'chosen race'. Then identifying a minority in Germany - the Jews - and projecting all of Germany's problems onto them - leading as we all know to the holocaust.

Scotland is of course never going to see a new nazi party - but I remember English homes being burned down in the 1980s; I remember a lad from Balerno being murdered by his mates after watching Braveheart - just because he was 'English'. Elements of nationalism are always the same: we 'of the blood' are special; the other's who are not 'of the blood' are the cause of all our problems' 'they' have stolen our land, our birthright' , our heritage - we must drive out those who are not 'true Scots', and take back the land, become pure again, cleanse ourselves of everything that is not 'truly Scottish'.

It is a philosophy of hatred and division. You can try and camouflage it anyway you want, but anyone who has ever seen nationalists in action, after a few drinks,. knows this is true. Hatred, division, separation.
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MisterN,

Scotland 06/07/2008 09:09:47
75 troll

We are special to us. You of course being a cringing sycophant wouldnt be able to relate to that.
Youre too busy being deceived and deceitful to notice anything else.
I think that post really exposes you for what you are.
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GrahamH,

Edinburgh 06/07/2008 09:11:59
#2. Monkey Man. If you never watch it, how do you know that it's embarrasing?

Don't stop posting, since AM2's demise, we need reminders of the countless people who slavishly vote as their parents did becauise their minds have been closed and they have lost the ability to have meaningful debate.
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MisterN,

Scotland 06/07/2008 09:12:19
94

You are obviously the exception to the rule then eh?