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Labour alerts voters to double jeopardy of 'the two Currans'



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Published Date: 18 July 2008
LABOUR campaigners were yesterday accused of panicking about the result of the Glasgow East by-election after it emerged that they had begun a strategy to cope with possible confusion over candidate names.
As polling day draws closer, party strategists on all sides are expecting a low turn-out for the crucial by-election, making a tight result more likely in what was a safe Labour seat with a majority of 13,500.

This has caused concerns in the Labour camp that confusion between their candidate Margaret Curran and Scottish Socialist Party candidate Frances Curran could prove crucial.

The SSP candidate appears ahead of Margaret Curran on the ballot paper because her forename starts with a letter that appears first in the alphabet.

There is also a worry over a repeat of the 2007 election fiasco where confusion about ballot papers led to many being voided. In that election, voters in Glasgow East's Scottish Parliament constituencies were among those with the most void papers.

As a result, Margaret Curran's campaign team has decided to leave nothing to chance.

All the leaflets the party is now producing carry a mock picture of a ballot paper, showing the two Currans with a cross by the one Labour want voters to support.

Activists have also been told to emphasise the point to voters when they go around knocking doors.

A campaign insider told The Scotsman: "We are taking unusual measures to tackle this problem. It's not unheard of in elections, but obviously we want to leave nothing to chance. For instance, Malcolm Chisholm had to run against another Chisholm in a recent election."

He added: "We expect Margaret to win, but the worst thing to do is take the voters for granted, and we know we are in a fight."

The SNP have said that the fact Labour are taking the "two Currans" issue so seriously shows that they are afraid of losing to the Nationalists' candidate John Mason.

"Clearly, we have made inroads in Glasgow East and Labour are panicking," a spokeswoman said.

"Labour are so concerned about losing around 50 votes because of a confusion over candidate names that they are going to these extraordinary lengths. That shows precisely how close this by-election is and that we can win it."

Frances Curran, a former MSP, said she has already been mistaken for Margaret Curran but she is adamant that she can do well on her own, without benefiting from mistaken identity.

She has also fiercely denied suggestions that she was put forward as a candidate because of her name.

"I don't want Margaret Curran's reputation for selling out. I kept my principles, she took the perks," she said.

The constituency should, in theory, be a good target for the far Left SSP.

However, in 2005, the first time this constituency was contested in this form, the SSP secured just 1,079 votes, or 3.5 per cent of the total, although this was considerably less than it got in the area in 2001.

Since then, the party has split with the creation of Solidarity, following the fall-out from the court case involving the former SSP leader, Tommy Sheridan.

Solidarity has also put up a candidate for the by-election, Tricia McLeish.

Knife-crime plea to candidates

A MOTHER whose son was knifed to death made an emotional plea to the main candidates in the Glasgow East by-election last night for tougher measures to fight knife crime.

Christine Halley, whose 19-year-old son, Stuart Naillie, was killed in Easterhouse last August, appealed for the politicians to support mandatory prison sentences for knife possession. But all four candidates present at a debate for BBC's Newsnight Scotland said they were unwilling to impose Draconian measures.

This is despite a call last week from Gordon Brown, the Prime Minister, for there to be a presumption of jail or a hefty community service punishment in order to tackle the spate of teenage knife killings over the past year.

John Mason, the SNP candidate, said he was not sure that prisons would be able to cope if every knife-carrier was sent to jail, a point with which Liberal Democrat candidate, Ian Robertson, agreed. Davena Rankin, the Tory candidate, said there should be a "presumption" of imprisonment but did not want to "bind judges' hands".

Margaret Curran, the Labour candidate, said people who committed a crime while on bail, or repeat offenders, should be jailed, and she was "inclined" to support mandatory sentences for possession.

• A youth in his late teens was stabbed to death in south Lambeth, south London, last night.

Did Labour steal Tories' moves?

LABOUR yesterday denied it was running out of ideas after appearing to steal a photocall concept from the Conservatives.

Margaret Curran, the Labour candidate, joined a dancing and yoga class for a photocall yesterday as she continued her fight to hold Glasgow East for Labour.

But the picture had distinct similarities to one organised on Wednesday involving the Conservative candidate, Davena Rankin, and Scottish party leader Annabel Goldie.

It would not be the first time Labour was accused of stealing ideas from the Tories. In his last Budget, the Chancellor, Alistair Darling, was said to have taken all the main proposals from shadow chancellor George Osborne's conference speech.

Labour said other parties were doing the same photocalls as itself at other times. "There's only a limited number of things you can do on a campaign and venues you can go to, so there's always going to be some cross-over between us all," a spokesman said.

Both photocalls were meant to highlight the parties' drives to encourage fitness in a constituency with one of the worst health records in Britain.


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18/07/2008 00:05:05
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Wilhelm ,

Schottland 18/07/2008 00:06:06
Magaret Curran = Uber ned.
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Coileach an taobh Tuath,

18/07/2008 00:10:51

What as state, a party that is supposes to be fighting for the poor, relying on the illiterate to vote for it...... sickening stuff

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Vivas,

Edinburgh 18/07/2008 00:11:21
Labour alerts voters to double jeopardy of 'the two Currans' ... aye ...via it's tame Northbritishman comic and Northbritishman website.

Yes...another SLAB press-release masterfully conveyed to us by the gifted journalists of The Northbritishman. Only one problem with it though. No one in Glasgow East gives a flying ferk what The Northbritishman says. In fact I live in Embra East and no-one HERE gives a flying ferk what it says either ;-)
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Power in a Union,

Scotland 18/07/2008 00:13:52
Why aren't the SNP seeking to confuse voters further by describing their candidate as "Alex Salmond for First Minister" or similar? Shurely it can't be that our FM has become shhy?
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Wilhelm ,

Schottland 18/07/2008 00:16:27
Power in a Union,

What a dumb moniker.
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Scotindy,

Los Angeles 18/07/2008 00:17:05
The only photocall the liebour party will not be able to copy is when the SNP win the bi-election GB is booted out of parliament and SCOTLAND goes for INDEPENDENCE....
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Castaway,

18/07/2008 00:18:20
Journalists who have been watching the campaign on the spot have told (Mike Smithson) how impressed they are with the SNP campaign team and the sheer scale of their volunteer effort. They are said to be out-gunning Labour by some degree - a factor that could be key given the relative lack of campaigning activities over a long period in the seat.Mike Smithson c/o Politicalbetting.com-July 17th, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/67xh6e
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John PM,

Edinburgh 18/07/2008 00:20:41
One is a Scottish socialist and the other one is a foreluck tugging Brit. It's not that hard to work it out!
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John PM,

Edinburgh 18/07/2008 00:27:39
I notice that Curran doesn't even take her Rosette off when she goes to the gym, that must be some strenuous workout! Still stealing ideas from the Tories is probably better than doing her own thing since it always seems to end in disaster. Surely she can dig up some other independence supporting person who will lie about it later on? How about another 90 year old war veteran who's really a 60 year old Labour activist? Come on Margaret how abvourt a blatant lie about living your entire life in the East End or the usual hypocritical boll*x about how the SNP are all extreme nationalists even though you yourself are an imperialist Brit Nat, nope that's all been done already... back to the drawing board.
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AM2,

Scotland,UK 18/07/2008 00:33:04
#12 Alberto

Ugh, what a thought! Still, it gives me an good excuse to delay creosoting my fences. I was going to visit Wickes on Saturday. Maybe I'll give it a miss...

London Road, eh? What an outrage! Would you rename it, post-independence? ;-)
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AM2,

Scotland,UK 18/07/2008 00:35:10
#8 Wilhelm

It's a Billy Bragg song. He's English. You might not have heard of him.
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Utterly Ashamed,

18/07/2008 00:44:59
Anybody notice Glen Campbell letting Margaret of the hook during the debate last night when asked about the outgoing MPs office and where it was located. I thought Margarets little "blame England" tirade at the begginning of the question on the issue was a little OTT and desperate.

Labour in Scotland have got to be the most priceless, corrupt and without shame. Monkeys would serve you better and manage more effectively.
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Iainbroch,

Moray 18/07/2008 00:46:13
Surely Liebaaah does not think that its voters are so thick that they cant tell the differnce between 2 Currans. They are not exactly twins now are they?
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monkey man,

18/07/2008 00:48:09
If anyone is stupid enough that they can't tell the difference between the two candidates they should be barred from voting.
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Tynietiger,

18/07/2008 00:52:01
I have rarely seen such as biased interviewer than Glenn Campbell, with appropriate red tie, on last night’s Newsnight debate. Fresh from allowing Labour’s Mike Dailly to hijack last Sunday’s Politics Show debate with a non story, he, like the recent Question Time programme, ensured that Labour was allowed to answer all the major topics after the SNP spokesperson.

He regularly quoted and attributed Margaret Curran’s campaign points, but not those of any of the other panellists, then dredged up a seven year old email in attempt to embarrass John Mason but did not tackle Mrs Curran when she lied about not knowing that the resigning Labour MP used his house as his constituency office.

Also he did not tackle Curran on her statement that she lived in the constituency or asked her about the rumour I heard some months ago from a Labour Party source that she was the one who leaked details of Wendy Alexander’s expenses to the Sunday Herald.

Near the end, Curran was allowed to go on at length but Glenn Campbell then interrupted and curtailed John Mason’s answer. His bias is becoming embarrassing.

I trust SNP supporters will write to the Chairman of BBC Scotland to complain.
Or is it only Labour who are allowed to claim political bias on part of the BBC?
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Willie Mor,

18/07/2008 00:55:02
I had it from a friend in the Labour Party that nobody else could possibly win in Glasgow East because that is their seat. Always has been, always will be.

Taking the voters for granted would be an understatement, but such comments do indeed highlight the disdain with which labour treats the electorate.

Might be in for a tad of a surprise though. The voters may well have other plans!

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Power in a Union,

Scotland 18/07/2008 00:57:39
AM2 is quite correct in identifying William Bragg as the source of the moniker. And before any of the cyber nats point out that the song refers to trade unions, I am of, as someone who has a number of Mr Bragg's CDs, well aware of this. I did however choose it as I knew it would wind some of you up.

I am completely puzzled however as to the introduction by correspondent 16 (Utterly ashamed) of Hitler - you should be ashamed to reduce the debate to this level!
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Jock 1O7,

18/07/2008 00:59:44
This is an important point to be raisin in Glasgow yeast about Curran(t) affairs. You can't cherry pick positions on the ballot paper.
D'oh!
Knead I say more..?
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Wisnaeme,

18/07/2008 01:05:04

Is that a photo of Margaret Curran doing the soft shoe shuffle for the shoe in?

Surely that photo wasn't taken in Barlanark Community Health Shop?

Isn't fortunate that such a place still exists for Margaret to make her moves in it.

But then, as per usual, Margaret Curran and New Labour are somewhat lax in appropriating the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth in their wee photo
shooting opportunities in the Glasgow East campaign.

tinyurl.com/54pk5n


Do us all a favour Margaret. Shuffle aff back ta yer wee shack in the South side.

My, herself and New Labour's desperate economies with awkward details are a wonder to behold.
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Jock 1O7,

http://www.unitedspongebob.com/page.php?page=squid 18/07/2008 01:21:22
26 Brandain

"Salmon is going to have to improve the candidates if Scotland is to achieve spongebobsquarepants."

Check this out - notice any similarities ?

http://www.unitedspongebob.com/page.php?page=squidbio
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Castaway,

18/07/2008 01:55:35
Labour and the SNP had their most bitter exchanges of the Glasgow East by-election yesterday, as Scotland Officer Minister David Cairns said voters would be outraged by Nationalist claims that there was little difference between Gordon Brown and Margaret Thatcher.Herald -18 July 2008

Tebbit hits out at Tories and names Brown as Thatcher's natural heir.
Lord Tebbit declared ...........that it was only natural that Mr Brown should make himself the “heir to Thatcher”.The Times - September 26, 2007
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aedis,

Glasgow 18/07/2008 02:02:07
Fantastic comments re Billy Bragg.

Of course he is a well known supporter of Scottish independence.

I think his song 'Take down the Union Jack' says it all-

Take down the Union Jack, it clashes with the sunset
And ask our Scottish neighbours if independence looks any good
‘Cos they just might understand how to take an abstract notion
Of personal identity and turn it into nationhood

Did anyone else spot on Newsnight Scotland that Margaret Curran thought David Marshall, the resigned MP was "value for money"!

After taking half a million quid in expenses!

What sort of heist is she planning?

http://tinyurl.com/658r22

I think we should be told.
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VoteoutLibLabConTraitors,

castlemilk 18/07/2008 02:46:19
I watched the Newsnight debate and thought John Mason the SNP man did well.
Glen Campbell ,the presenter (is he a Rhinestone Cowboy ?) couldn't really probe the former Labour MP's half million pound kitchenette office as the beeb needs Labour to keep the funds rolling in for it's biased anti Scottish output.
The Tory candidate was quite nice looking and seemed genuine but won't get anywhere in Glasgow East.
Margaret Curran was scary as usual and if she wins will drift into the back benches at Westminster and stick her snout in the trough and never be heard of again.
Didn't even notice the Lib Dem bloke. Wallpaper I suppose like the rest of the Lib Dems.
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KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 18/07/2008 02:50:09
Currans Lies

"The position has been confirmed by expert after expert, as has the financial gap of more than £11 billion that would affect Scotland under the SNP. The individual bill for each family in Scotland would be more than £5000—and that would be just the beginning."

"I have lived in the East End all my life."

"I am not sure why the Scottish Parliament was not good enough for Alex Salmond before.... He is such a modest man that he wants to be in two Parliaments at the same time. He is quite an interesting man."

"We have some of the highest-performing schools in the east end of Glasgow. We have quality and choice in housing, which had been denied to people for too long. Businesses are flourishing, there are job opportunities and levels of poverty have been slashed,"


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yankey,

Bo'ness Harbour 18/07/2008 03:17:09

In days gone by when Liebor ruled If a large company wanted a Prime Site to

DEVELOPE

They formed a £1 company with say 1,000 shares and then approached the local Politicians and the Senior Civil Service Staff to ensure that they could buy the site at well below market value and gave them a share or two.

Does this seem familier to anyone

In a few years time they are worth a fortune

Help us and do not let this happen in Bo'ness

Expose this theft

Write Email Phone
Falkirk Council
Tell the Labour party Pat Reid and the Bo'ness Traitor Mahoney and the Lib Dums Sopport that

Scotland is no longer for SALE


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Willie Macleod,

Wick 18/07/2008 04:07:34
33-35 If you want a reply speak to people your fellow posters with respect.
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john z,

edinburgh 18/07/2008 05:29:18
I watched the Newsnight debate, and I agree the bias in favour of hardline unionists like Margaret Curran, was very obvious. Is it not time the EBC understood the political landscape in Scotland has changed.

In terms of Curran, I found she spoke a lot, but actually said very little. All of her answers were fudges. Yes and no, clearly do not exist in the London Labour media guidebook.

Let's hope the good people of Glasgow east show these hardline unionists like Curran what they think, and give fake eastender Curran a good electoral kicking on polling day.
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Willie Macleod,

Wick 18/07/2008 05:44:20
#38 By respect I mean call Parties people and other bodies by there proper names

Argue against them and what you think is wrong but do it with the decency and respect.
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cabrach loon,

inverness 18/07/2008 06:26:00
so very sad the bbc has lost its integrity and impartiality on the local and world stage, in addition from watching it one gets the impression that the uk is 50% south asian yet I read recently that uk immigrant minorities are under/represented on tv etc. for heavens sake every judge and police lieutenany on us tv is black and the uk is going the same way, i doubt it.
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An Beal Bacht,

18/07/2008 06:27:58
14 - AM2, Scotland,UK 18/07/2008 00:33:04 wrote:

"#12 Alberto

London Road, eh? What an outrage! Would you rename it, post-independence? ;-)"

The road to hell?
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An Beal Bacht,

18/07/2008 06:33:37
15 - AM2, Scotland,UK 18/07/2008 00:35:10 wrote:

":#8 Wilhelm

It's a Billy Bragg song. He's English. You might not have heard of him."

Great song about workers:

There Is Power In A Union

by Billy Bragg

There is power in a factory, power in the land
Power in the hand of the worker
But it all amounts to nothing if together we don't stand
There is power in a Union

Now the lessons of the past were all learned with workers blood
The mistakes of the bosses we must pay for
From the cities and the farmlands to trenches full of mud
War has always been the bosses way, sir

The Union forever,defending our rights
Down with the blackleg,all workers unite
With our brothers and our sisters from many far-off lands
There is power in a Union

Now I long for the morning that they realise
Brutality and unjust laws cannot defeat us
But who'll defend the workers who cannot organise
When the bosses send their lackeys out to cheat us?

Money speaks for money,the Devil for his own
Who comes to speak for the skin and the bone?
What a comfort for the widow,a light to the child
There is power in a Union

The Union forever,defending our rights
Down with the blackleg,all workers unite
With our brothers and our sisters together we will stand
There is power in a Union
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An Beal Bacht,

18/07/2008 06:39:31
Think the labour party still believes this?
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Anne,

Eaglesham 18/07/2008 06:39:53
1970 June General Election: constituency, Dundee East, six weeks after local elections took place.

Outside Douglas Primary polling station, a small band of workers from a varuiety of parties are handing out leaflets to intending voters.

A wee Dundee wifie emerges and says triumphantly to the two Labour activists manning the date, "Eh, well, that's me given JL his vote again."

Cue gnashing of teeth and wailing from aforesaid Labourites. Thanks to their party's laziness in not taking down its local election street furniture, large swathes of their support in the area thought they were voting for JL Stewart, their local councillor, but had in fact given their vote to Allan Stewart the Conservative candidate.

Oh how we others on that particular gate laughed tthat day!
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Teamdroid,

18/07/2008 06:43:12
Billy Bragg a favourite in your record collection, AM2? Amusing, given that his political views on the Union are almost diametrically opposed to yours - he recognises the blessing that is a good neighbour, rather than a grumpy lodger. He's an English socialist and proud of both, and comes across well in his Guardian blogs.
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Munter,

Musselburgh 18/07/2008 06:44:24
"Frances Curran... has also fiercely denied suggestions that she was put forward as a candidate because of her name."
I know the facts can be a tricky issue for journalists but Frances Curran was chosen to stand for the SSP on the Thursday night when the Labour candidate was still whatshisname.
Margaret Curran's name wasn't even mentioned in relation to the Labour candidacy until the Saturday and she wasn't named until the Monday night.
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Jimmy the Pie,

18/07/2008 07:19:14
The BBC and their trained monkey Glen Campbell were shocking last night.

Their bias was unbelievable, but I don't think the electorate were fooled.

Who was speaking to him, prompting him?????

Was he hearing Lard Foolkes voice in his head???

He's obviously not able to think for himself, or he wouldn't have asked the stupid questions he did.

The taxi driver was spot on.

Taxi for Glen Campbell!!

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McMillar,

Fife 18/07/2008 07:30:49
Is it not over yet? Just elect someone and get on with it please. ZZZzzz.
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Jimmy the Pie,

18/07/2008 07:32:17
AM2

Are you getting mixed up with The Strawbs, Part Of The Union, from the early 70's???
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jacquesmac,

18/07/2008 07:37:44
Lokks as though it is getting very close when Libore need to skin a few votes from the poor wee SSP
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Brian M,

Edinburgh 18/07/2008 07:41:38
A sure sign that Labour know they are heading for a loss.

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sm753,

18/07/2008 07:45:50

It's notable (and shameful) that a lot of the criticism of Margaret Curran posted here (and similarly for Wendy Alexander, Jackie Baillie and so on) would not even be considered if they were men.
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Citylocal Fife,

Fife News 18/07/2008 07:47:10
Despite her many blatant lies, there is one thing that Ms Curran proved beyond all doubt.....

An empty drum makes the most noise!

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bully wee alba,

Edinburgh 18/07/2008 07:53:37
#6 Writes:-

“Why aren't the SNP seeking to confuse voters further by describing their candidate as "Alex Salmond for First Minister" or similar? Shurely it can't be that our FM has become shhy?”

Judging by this posters use of a moniker taken from a musician who supports independence, and his original approach to spelling, I suspect that it may not just be the voters in Glasgow East who suffer from a degree of confusion.
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Shurley,

A golf course somewhere near Aberdeen 18/07/2008 07:54:22
#55 Alex, come on, yo usahould be on the golf course with me and Donald, after all, if it hadn't been for your intervention, those stupid pewople of Aberdeen would have missed out on all the free meals....glad Alex had the savvy to comprehend that there is a free lunch, especially if you can overturn the decision of the local cooncil (sic)
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steve 1511,

aberdeen 18/07/2008 07:58:34
at least margret curran had the decency to spare us the sight of her doing her aerobics in a red leotard,this women must not be allowed to kiss bairns,the fear that her face will plant in their minds will be traumatic in their lives
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Brian M,

Edinburgh 18/07/2008 08:00:32
#55 Councillor Stephen Curran - City Treasurer

Surely he is not the Nu Mouth's husband or brother? Surely not another Labour double act in politics?
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Jimmy the Pie,

18/07/2008 08:06:16
From Timesonline today,

"Gordon Brown and Alistair Darling are to attempt to borrow their way out of Britain’s economic problems by drastically revising the rules that have governed Labour’s stewardship of the economy for 11 years.

The Chancellor is expected to change the fiscal rules in the autumn to enable borrowing to go beyond the maximum 40 per cent of gross domestic product (GDP) allowed under the existing rules."

This must be wrong!

Comrade Broon said we've the best economy in the west!

THE HOUSE OF CARDS IS COLLAPSING

and not a moment too soon!!!
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Linda,

Edinburgh 18/07/2008 08:13:26
# 21 is spot on about anti SNP bias in last night's newsnight. In addition to the unchalleged lies mentioned above from Mrs Curran here is another one.

Margaret Curran claimed that she voted to support a second UN resolution on Iraq back in 2003, as quoted on stv last week. A quick check of the Official Report for the two debates in January and March that year show that Curran voted for amendments which removed calls for a second resolution, and the text of the amended motions she supported simply noted that there were attempts to secure one. So she's been lying again and yet the press haven't bothered to fact-check her.
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gus1940,

Edinburgh 18/07/2008 08:18:06
Following on from the travesty that was the recent Question Time from Musselburgh last night's Newsnight debate was a disgraceful example of political bias by the hardline unionists at the BBC.

Presumably the selection of questions to be taken is decided by the BBC and it is obvious that this was done to minimise the pressure put on Curran.

Firstly, about 50% of the available debating time was given over to knife crime which, although a serious problem, is not exactly a party political matter.

When the matter of a referendum was briefly brought up Curran was noticably silent and Campbell never asked her what her views on the subject were.

There was no mention of the Council Tax Freeze and its proposed replacement by Local Income Tax nor of the scrapping of the 10% Tax Band which are party political and of great relevance to all voters in particular those in Glasgow East.

It is high time the Hardline Unionist Bias in The BBC was dealt with.

I'm not asking for a pro independence BBC just a level playing field.

If the media both printed and broadcast lost its inbuilt Hardline Unionist Bias just imagine how much support for independence would rise.

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Wee Wull,

Nr Peebles 18/07/2008 08:27:39
Isn't it a fact that most of the subjects of interest to voters are now with Holyrood, and this is a Westminster by-election.

We don't really need MP's at all.
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Jacqueline Hyde ,

On the shelf 18/07/2008 08:32:51
The first letter in the alphabet is "A", dummy.
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Nubar Gulbenkian,

18/07/2008 08:39:33
#56

The LIEbour party has raised every other card, race, religion, sexual orientation etc in this by-election. I suppose it is now raising the gender issue when all else has failed to be noticed.

The posters are very fair and equitable in their derision of Liebour "people" regardless of their gender.

It just so happens that Curran, Alexander and Baillie all have that "skelped *rse expression.
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pehman,

sussex 18/07/2008 08:40:05

T F i F,

See you all in Glasgow east tomorrow, I'm on my way
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Bob M,

Paisley 18/07/2008 08:47:59
Vote for Mags! She's counting on those John Lewis vouchers....

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Davex,

London 18/07/2008 08:59:11
I disagree with people who claim that the BBC is anti SNP. Its actually pro Labour in every part of the UK.
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1745,

Edinburgh 18/07/2008 09:00:15
Last night's Newsnight was a total disgrace Uber biased Campbell allowed Curran more time than any other candidate. Curran's favoutite word is "I"she is a liar and appears to fancy herself as an actress.
Campbell, the beeb's labour representative should be removed from our screens entirely his voice would grate carrots.
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Voice of reason,

EDINBURGH 18/07/2008 09:07:37
As a Tory I am having a good laugh at the moronic behaviour of Liebour and Esh En Pee . Scoatlin free by 93 - is that 2093 ??
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Marian,

18/07/2008 09:11:38
If Margaret Curran is the best candidate that New Labour can find to stand for Westminter in Glasgow East, then no wonder New Labour is in such deep trouble in Scotland. Her harridan style performance in last nights Newsnight "debate" was abysmal and most certainly not up to the high standard that we should expect from a candidate for Westminster. As for the "debate" itself, the BBC should be ashamed of itself for putting on such a chaotic and unbalanced programme. The SNP and Tory candidates were the only ones that shone through an otherwise dire look at Scottish politics.
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kt mcallan,

scotland 18/07/2008 09:12:13
Margaret millionaire curran - empty vessels make the most sound right enough. Plenty of hot air blowing oot her mooth, nae substance.
Glen Campbell - trained EBC monkey.
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kt mcallan,

scotland 18/07/2008 09:16:08
Margaret millionaire curran thinks the people of glasgow east got "good value" from David Marshall and the EBC's trained monkey, Glen Campbell let her off with it.
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donald,

glasgow 18/07/2008 09:16:27
The Current Affairs must have Liebour really worried, when some of them might put an F in front of the M.

Effin tragedy.
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donald,

glasgow 18/07/2008 09:17:28
Frances was shown hugging Maggie on TV and shaking hauns, when she should have stuck the heid oan her.
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John S,

18/07/2008 09:20:59
Margaret Curran has been on Newsnight Scotland defending David Marshall, the resigned MP, as "value for money".
House of Commons: Between 21 March 2001 and 13 May 2008 David Marshall MP has asked a total of 318 written and oral questions.
What is the cost of answering a parliamentary question ? Oral question costs £385 on average.Written question costs £140 on average.
Has voted in 55% of votes in parliament — well below average amongst MPs. (From Public Whip)
Has spoken in 13 debates in the last year — below average amongst MPs.
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John BC,

Banffshire 18/07/2008 09:24:43
John Mason the SNP candidate was by far the most honest in last night’s debate. Glen Campbell showed his true anti SNP colours again. What a disappointment. He let Labours M Curran away with ducking every question and allowing her to interrupt John Mason every time he spoke. He never challenged Labour on their deceit and lies but was quick to attack John on an old letter which was a none story. Where did he dig this up from?
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Andra, Dundee,

18/07/2008 09:27:55
The content of posts on this site provide good argument for democracy being abolished completely. More than half of our population are half wits - yet they are the ones who criticise politicians.
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tog,

Edinburgh 18/07/2008 09:33:05
Could not detect any bias in the Newsnight debate last night but maybe I fell asleep and normally I will watch anything on politics. Ironically in the rest of the country the lead story on Newsnight was the Glasgow by election and they got a very interesting piece by Michael Crick which was perhaps the best coverage of the contest I have yet seen. Why this debate was on Newsnight I'm not sure. Felt more like one of the pre election debates usually shown on BBC 1. Admittedly the viewers would have fled but as BBC 1 was showing a repeat of a Question of Sport compilation why was this on BBC2?
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brownlie,

18/07/2008 09:34:03
84 Andra

Which half of the population do you consider yourself to be in?
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Sally Longlegs,

edinburgh 18/07/2008 09:41:41
I agree with #84.
Just look at the last elections and the people who cant follow instructions correctly.
There should be some form of IQ test to prove you have the intelligence to understand the problems before you can vote!
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AJ Fife,

18/07/2008 09:41:42
Sounds like Mr Glenn Campbell will need a bit of 're-educating' come the great day!

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Alan B,

18/07/2008 09:43:40
#tog

Not sure how u can say u could not detect biase on Newnight. Campbell is so strongly supportive of labour it is getting ridiculous. Brewer is far better.

An example the other day was Campbell the other day repeatly asking the snp candidate if he was hardline (becuase he supported independence).

All the 4 parties are taking hardlines on the consitution with snp for indepdence and tories and labour for the union. So why single out the snp to try to get him to say he was hardline.

Then predictibly labour then rush out and say snp in turmoil beucase candidate comes out as hardline. An snp candidate that supports independence. shock horror.

Why in yesterdays newsnight did he let the first 2 candidates talk freely answering a question put to them and then bring up that the taggart actor supporting labour was a blow for the snp to try to distract the snp candidate from answering the question. He could equally and more relevantly brought up the fact that the taggart actor was slagging of the union and supporting indepdence so strongly on Andrew Neils politics show at the time of the last election.

If you have any doubts about campbells support for labour remember who wendy choose to interview with when come out after the dodgy donations.

The guy is a joke.

Brewer is the only newsnight interviewer with any credibility as he gives all the interviewees a hard time.
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Andra, Dundee,

18/07/2008 09:44:35
#86 brownlie
I’m in the half that posts pointless or petty or vindictive posts on this site – same half as you!

Actually come to think of it - I suppose only a tiny fraction post here so the situation is possibly not as dire as you'd be lead to believe reading this site.
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George Mackay,

Dundee 18/07/2008 09:45:27
87 Sally Longlegs

Sally Longlegs. You sound gorgeous, hen.

The IQ test should be for politicians. All wannabe MPs should take an IQ test and a lie detector test too.
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George Mackay,

Dundee 18/07/2008 09:49:09
61 steve 1511

I'm waiting to see Shrek and Donkey (Salmond and Swinney) prancing around in leotards.
88

Hawkeye the Noo,

18/07/2008 09:53:04
I must admit, I've been confused a couple of times by the two Currans, and I'm a super-intelligent alien being who is merely visiting your strange planet for research purposes.

It is quite conceiveable, I have learned, that a human being with an average earth-standard IQ could tick the wrong box! Especially if they are rushing about their daily business with half a mind on what they are doing the way that you earthlings often do!

I think this could cause a serious problem for Labour.
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The Former Mr. Angry,

Perth 18/07/2008 09:53:05
Not sure which Curran I would prefer to bodyswerve most - the Pink Power Dresser or the out and out Hardline Communist. Both scarey in their own way and Jaws certainly managed to hog a lot of the limelight on the Newsnight debate if it could be graced with that name. John Mason felt moved at one point to be allowed to answer the question as Margaret had already had enough time. He came across as being more level-headed and prepared to answer the question, but could do with a bit more polish in his presentation. The Lib-Dum and Conservative candidates seemed a bit out of their depth.

The taxi driver seemed to be one of the only people there who was coming across with a valid point. The CofS lady meenister must have thought it was the weekly sermon as she was looking for "good news" about Glasgow East - was she a Wendy plant?

I don't the rest of the audience was stunned or Glen just didn't allow any vociferous comment but there was hardly a peep out of them. Strange given the amount of issues facing Glasgow East and aspects like fuel and food prices.
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The Former Mr. Angry,

Perth 18/07/2008 09:53:58
For "I don't" above, read "I think". Apologies!
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Arthur G,

Glasgow 18/07/2008 09:55:39
#23 Power in a Union

Re #16's now, thankfully deleted Hitler reference. I would say this is a classic case of the internet phenomenon known as "Goodwin's Law":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_Law
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yolanda,

18/07/2008 09:57:08
It's ridiculous to suggest that Frances Curran was deliberately put forward because of her name. Nobody knew WHO the Labour candidate was going to be, because nobody wanted the job, until they scraped the bottom of the barrel and came up with Margaret Curran!

Why was Glenn Campbell allowed to bring up the Dorothy Grace Elder letter? It had no place in what was supposed to be a fair debate.

As for Margaret Curran stating that she truly believes that Marshall, who fleeced the taxpayers for everything his greedy fat fingers could snatch, while turning in a very poor attendance and performance, was value for money!! On that basis alone, she should be viewed with suspicion. If that's her idea of Labour representing the constituents and giving value for money, she really hasn't a clue of what they are supposed to do at all. The east end of Glasgow deserves better than this.
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Miss H,

18/07/2008 09:59:08
post 6 - perthaps because he already is First Minister?

Post 66 - I thought that was ineresting as well. Knife crime is not a reserved matter, it's devolved, as were the majority of issues discussed. They mentioned fuel prices but not the abolition of the 10p tax band which will have affected a lot of people in Glasgow East.

Even if people don't accept claims of bias it is poor broadcasting.

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brownlie,

18/07/2008 10:08:13
90 Andra

Thank goodness for that - I always welcome petty pointless and vindictive posts from fellow unionists even if they play into the SNP's hands.

Being a unionist my posts have, by necessity, to be petty and pointless but, having carefully looked through my previous postings I can find nothing vindictive in them. Perhaps you could point to one.

However, calling half the population half-wits could be constued as being vindictive and should go down well with the population in Glasgow East.
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yolanda,

18/07/2008 10:12:09
100?? The taxi driver asked what they were going to do about the poor state of the roads. Nobody bothered to answer. These are the kinds of things that actually matter to people, but the politicians have their own agenda.
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sm753,

18/07/2008 10:19:15
Didn't Glen Campbell do "Rhinestone Cowboy"?

Anyway his namesake was fine last night.

Note to Nat "bias" ranters: the media are SUPPOSED to be tougher on the party in government, it's part of their job.
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Publius,

London 18/07/2008 10:20:20
#89 Alan B

I didn't see the Newsnight debate (can't get it in London). Will you or some other kind person put it on YouTube?
I'm sure that the BBC and Channel 4 are institutionally biased towards Labour in England. The BBC, Guardian, New Labour push out the same message - Tories bad, public expenditure good, state is morally good etc. On the rare occasions when the BBC steps out of line it is soon put in its place. Remember the Kelly affair - Kelly died but the chairman, the deputy chairman, the director general and the journalist concerned all lost their jobs because the jounralists suggested that the government spin machine had something to do with it.
With only getting to Scotland at weekends when the news programmes aren't on I don't have a feel for insitutional bias in my home country. But I imagine it's much the same as England
Final point. I have detected that some of the younger BBC journalists want to jump ship. They have careers to make and that's no future in being bosom buddies with Labour. They might as well chain themselves to a corpse.
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Edward,

18/07/2008 10:20:52
I wonder why the BBC are not puting on last nights Newsnight Scotland on the iPlayer?
Perhaps something to do with how bias the program was
I would have liked to hear th questions again from the audience and what the answers were
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Edward,

18/07/2008 10:24:30
#101 sm753
An which Govenment would that be?
The Scottish Government which is NOT having a by election
or the UK Government whis IS having a by election?
I agree there should have been some tough questions for Margaret Curran, who wants to join the siutting UK Government. She also represents the party thats been in control in Scotland for the last 50 odd years
Yes SHE should have had some tough questions, but didnt, I wonder why!
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hertscot,

18/07/2008 10:25:11
#90

Your posts are petty and pointless because the union has become petty and pointless.