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Householders' solar and wind energy grant tripled



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Published Date: 19 March 2008
FUNDING for people who want to fit windmills, solar panels or heat pumps to their homes is to be tripled.
Finance Secretary John Swinney today announced the Scottish Government will make available £13.5 million a year for the next three years to help householders, small businesses and local communities generate their own clean energy.

It means more ho
useholders will be able to access grants of up to £4000 and community groups up to £100,000 for fitting alternative energy sources.

And small businesses will for the first time be eligible for loans for microgeneration as well as for energy efficiency measures.

The grants for householders do not cover the full cost of installing new systems. Fitting a ground-source heat pump at an average house in Edinburgh is estimated to cost between £10,000 and £15,000.

Announcing the new funding – up from the current £4.5m a year – Mr Swinney said: "We recently announced our intention to introduce a statutory target to reduce Scottish emissions by 80 per cent by 2050, as part of our proposals for Scotland's first Climate Change Bill. Everyone has a part to play and the Scottish Government is providing strong leadership by tripling funding support to encourage householders, businesses and community projects to generate their own renewable energy."

He said the Government had recently unveiled proposals to make it easier for people to install windmills and solar panels by removing the need in most cases for planning permission.

He added: "Low carbon technologies in our renewable energy mix will make a significant contribution to Scotland's future.

"By tripling government funding for community microgeneration initiatives and reforming the planning system, the Scottish Government is putting in place the incentives for people to generate their own clean energy."

Of the £13.5m funding, £5.25m will be available for community projects, £3.5m for householders and £2m for businesses through loans. The remaining cash will be used to provide advice and support to those seeking to install renewable technologies.

People applying for grants are expected to show they are minimising their energy demands as much as possible by installing energy efficiency measures such as draught-proof and insulation.

Community projects must demonstrate how the project will benefit the community.





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  • Last Updated: 19 March 2008 1:30 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Environment
 
1

AD in sunny Livingston,

19/03/2008 17:03:48
Fantastic news. I agree with #1 - a great initiative!
2

Agent 99,

19/03/2008 17:11:23
The initiative is certainly well meant, but is limited by the politicians inability to grasp certain key financial facts. Basically -

Solar is a total waste of time on this kind of scale.

I just looked at it last week. Using the guidelines given for a house that spends £1000/year on electricity (we actually spend more) there was a solar installation profiled which would be about £16000. Although there is supposed to be a 30% grant its capped at £4000. Outlay is therefore £12000, after grants and assuming nothing goes wrong.

Savings are supposed to be 30-40% of the annual electricity bill, which I somehow doubt but anyway for the sakes of argument *might* be an annual saving of £400.

Assuming your capital costs were interest free it would take a mere 30 years for the installation to pay for itself. This too assumes zero running costs, damage, attrition, etc. I don't recall the stated lif of the PV panels, but my guess is that they would be technically obsolete long before the 30 years.

A worthless proposition, or, alternatively, a rake of money to salve one's environmental conscience; take your pick.
3

aleex,

Edinburgh 19/03/2008 17:43:38
#4 Solar isn't a waste. A couple of panels wil be enough to light my tenement stairwell light! That keeps me happy and electricity costs to a minimum.
4

westview,

Oort cloud. 19/03/2008 17:44:21
Alternatively, use the hot air generated by Wendy bendy Alexander. Hope her headline "save the wee weans" policy does better than her " regenerate Paisley" follies. Watch out for lots of photos of her kissing kids, in the press.
5

Andrew Allan,

19/03/2008 17:50:35
#2.,AM2.
I take it AM2 your comment is some sort of hello I am still here statement, as I can't think of any good reason anyone wouldn't think this idea wasn't at least good as an explorative attempt at reducing carbon emisions.
6

Andrew Allan,

19/03/2008 18:36:30

#9.,AM2.Glasgow,UK 19/03/2008 17:55:31
‘#8 Andrew Allan
It was a light-hearted jibe at the obsequious #1.
But the more the SNP subsidise the wealthy the further their star could fall. So I'm certainly not grumbling.’

Yes AM2 as was mine, a light-hearted jibe that is. Who says the SNP are actually aiming to subsidise the wealthy? As I see it AM2 only people who qualify for some sort of benefit are able to get any reduction in things like taxes, otherwise there needs to be proof of income if you are living within any catchment areas within Scotland, if you are a non-dom and you can be taxed, if you are living on the profits from other means this could be counted as wages in theory. Now if you are simply talking about these environmental issues I don’t believe people would really be against anyone helping the environment.

7

 Ayrshire Scot™,

19/03/2008 18:45:41
10. Silly contribution. Solar panels have for some time exceeded their life cycle CO2 saving output vs non-renewables, even for small scale single house installations. Is the "new" AM2 just posting dross now?
8

 Ayrshire Scot™,

19/03/2008 18:47:27
13. The SNP are subisdising the wealthy.... except for the local income tax which will see the wealthy flee the country apparently.... sadly unionist confusion is still facing in all directions at once. I thought this initiative was more about subsidising the environment.

16 - I take that back, The "old" AM2 posted mostly dross as well.
9

 Ayrshire Scot™,

19/03/2008 19:02:12
19. De-bunking the posts from oranges, you mean. Your post 10 tried to suggest that solar panels had a CO2 impact equivalent due to production, transport etc of non-renewables - they do not, they reduce CO2 emmissions.

Post 4 is off re. re-coup time on cost, as the £16,000 quoted for a single home panel for water heating is massively, massively off ..... But, as ever, don't let any facts get in your way, old rhubarb.
10

 Ayrshire Scot™,

19/03/2008 19:03:02
19. PS, Meths was asking after you on the Iraq thread. He seems oddly fond of you. I suspect drink :-)

11

 Ayrshire Scot™,

19/03/2008 19:18:16
22. Perish the thought AM2, I would no more want to stroll in that vast vacuum than in Kimba's. Your post 10, saying "dont forget to factor in environmental impact of production" etc did seemed to question the environmental benefits of solar. If not, why did you post it.

12

 Ayrshire Scot™,

19/03/2008 19:20:29
22. Hey, while you are here, and being a "noted" poster and analyser of opinion polls, what did you make of the poll on Sunday showing Salmond to be the most popular First Minister ever?

13

 Ayrshire Scot™,

19/03/2008 19:23:05
24. What point were you trying to make? That energy is not free? Gosh, and here was me thinking the AM2 perpetual motion machine had finally supplanted the AM2 perpetual obfusctation machine.

Yours, Nova and Splash
14

 Ayrshire Scot™,

19/03/2008 19:27:53
28. Oh that doesn't dissappoint. But sadly it doesn't really answer the question - no analysis on why Salmond has a higher rating than previous FM?

As for #1 "fawnong drivel" he was merely enthusing about an environmentally friendly policy. Clearly he feels strongly about environmental issues. And why are we reverting to previous names? Have you been re-booted, AM2-bot?
15

OscarMacApfel,

Dumfries 19/03/2008 19:37:54
#24 AM2 Who intimidated you?

Quick quiz chumrades.

How many council houses were built by local authorities in Scotland under the period 2004 - 2006?
16

 Ayrshire Scot™,

19/03/2008 19:42:34
34. I think no houses were built in the past 8 years, The first council house building was this year.

17

 Ayrshire Scot™,

19/03/2008 19:43:21
35. "defend his fringe lunacy" - tut tut. I was merely coimmenting on your unwarranted abuse of his perfectly valid post.

18

OscarMacApfel,

Dumfries 19/03/2008 19:49:14
#36 Ahoy hoy ma scienteefic chumrade. Nope your wrong under the Labour Lib Dem coalition during 2004-2006 local authorities built a grand total of SIX houses.

Tricia Marwick, a former campaigner for Shelter has just announced that a knock on effect of the government's ending of the 'Right to Buy' for new social housing has resulted in local authorities proposing to build FIFTEEN HUNDRED new homes, before 2010!
19

 Ayrshire Scot™,

19/03/2008 19:50:29
39. AM2 defends his bowl-cut lunancy.
20

OscarMacApfel,

Dumfries 19/03/2008 19:57:31
Nowt to with fruit, old crocus. Housing associations are neither owned nor operated by Local Authorities. Not remember it was a great wheeze to take liability for maintenance of stock out of LA's hands.

Here's a wee run down of the proposed COUNCIL built affordable housing planned.

• West Lothian is intending to buy four sites in order to provide around 240 new homes

• Midlothian plans to build more than 1000 units by 2010

• The three Ayrshire Councils - East, South and North - have indicated they want to explore the possibility of building new social houses

• North Lanarkshire has committee approval to investigate options for building 150 new council houses

• Orkney council has "intentions" to build new social housing

• Shetland Islands is believed to want to fund 100 homes by 2015

• Aberdeen Council has indicated a wish to build up to 133 new council houses by 2015

• Aberdeenshire is said to be planning 50 new units within the next year

• Councils in Angus, Stirling and East Lothian are also planning new build

21

OscarMacApfel,

Dumfries 19/03/2008 19:58:24
#46 was obviously directed at #43 for the hard of thinking.
22

 Ayrshire Scot™,

19/03/2008 20:01:44
46. A wheeze to excuse the lunacy of 98% of rent receipts of councils going to service capital housing debt as well, Oscar, something Labour did nothing to alleviate and the Tories made worse by the right-to-buy without releasing receipts of funds to building.....

Why AM2 defends such lunacy is beyond me

Ps - I was close when I said zero house, 6 is close to zero

23

OscarMacApfel,

Dumfries 19/03/2008 20:05:29
S'true old bean. For your delectation have a look at this interesting composition, those of a delicate nature please avert your eyes.


http://tinyurl.com/32vjz6
24

 Ayrshire Scot™,

19/03/2008 20:09:56
49. ROTFL. eeek, shreek, Sad but true. I fear AM2 may have been the fluffer for that video.

25

OscarMacApfel,

Dumfries 19/03/2008 20:19:35
Perhaps this is more to your err taste.

The real truth behind Blair and Bush

http://tinyurl.com/2kt7sp
26

yockel,

19/03/2008 20:20:58
Wrong way to go, grants simply increase the cost to absorb the grant. Why should you or I contribute to our neighbours' hair brained scheme to produce cheap energy, especially when they own the house and have the money to fund the project in the first place. It ain't going to work anyway. Ask anyone with a windmill or a solar panel. Complete waste of money unless you sell them of course.
27

karinxx,

19/03/2008 20:33:35
Am2 various posts.

so now being green is a bad idea if its the snp that is trying to acheive something with this? objectivity you. You jest surely.

as for your comment about pollyannaism. Far better to be optimistic than a unionist pessimist. ~For a start opitmists live longer. So if you see dying earlier as a benefit of the union then please carry on AM2.

As for4 growing tired of the forums you mean you finally realised that nothing you say makes a difference when faced with the truth.

28

karinxx,

19/03/2008 21:17:43
meths yeah etc etc.

Did you see what am2 said about you at 22
29

doublescotch,

U.S.A. 20/03/2008 00:04:59
Before you all rush out to buy Solar Panels read this article.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/08/AR2008030802595.html
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