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Glasgow East by-election: SNP 'making headway' says Sturgeon



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Published Date: 22 July 2008
SCOTTISH National Party campaigners claimed to be making up ground today as the Glasgow East by-election reached its closing stages.
SNP deputy leader Nicola Sturgeon said voters were switching from Labour to her party and the SNP was feeling "extremely optimistic".

"Our support is strong and motivated and it's growing by the day," she told BBC Radio Scotland's Good Morning Sco
tland programme, two days before voters go to the polls.

"We detect in Glasgow East a very strong mood to send a message to Labour – a message that says people are very unhappy with a London Labour Government that is deeply out of touch and is doing absolutely nothing to help individuals with the rising cost of living."

And she claimed: "This is a very close-run election and all of the movement is towards the SNP."

Asked if her party would win, she said: "We are very optimistic and we certainly intend to win."

Ms Sturgeon also defended her party's plans for a local income tax to replace the council tax.

A joint report by the Chartered Institute of Public Finance and Accountancy will today reportedly warn that the SNP's plans for a 3p rate of local income tax to replace the council tax will create a £742 million deficit.

Ms Sturgeon said the report assumed that Scotland would no longer receive the council tax benefit, which would be an "outrageous and unwarranted" state of affairs, and it also ignored extra central government investment.

SNP candidate John Mason will be joined by celebrity supporters and First Minister Alex Salmond.

Braveheart actor James Cosmo and comedienne Elaine C Smith will boost the party's profile with a shopping centre visit.

Labour's campaign today included a visit to a hi-tech employer in Glasgow East with the aim of promoting a positive vision of the area.
Candidate Margaret Curran said: "I will never, ever talk the east end down.

"The people in this community are sick and tired of being talked down – from the Nationalists comparing the area to the Gaza Strip to sneering Tory commentators deliberately ignoring the improvements of recent years.

"Nowhere is this more true than in the case of employment in the area, where local employers are bringing high-skilled jobs to the east end.
"What we need to do is get more people off benefits and into work at places like the one I am visiting today."

Tory activists will canvass voters on the cost of living and crime, while reinforcing their message to reject separatism.

Scottish Tory leader Annabel Goldie said her party was making sure voters realised they did not have to settle for "the failure of Labour or the risk of the SNP".

She also argued that the SNP was soft on law and order.

"The Scottish Government under the SNP does not want to grip the thistle and commit to the new prisons we need," she told Good Morning Scotland.

Liberal Democrat candidate Ian Robertson has cancelled all campaigning activity this morning due to a family emergency.

He had planned to join activists going door-to-door in the constituency.
His spokesman would not comment on the nature of the family emergency.
Voters will go to the polls on Thursday in a constituency made vacant by the resignation of Labour MP David Marshall.

Labour is defending a majority of 13,507 over the SNP.

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1

Huntly loon,

Aberdeenshire 22/07/2008 10:13:18
I now know why Gordon Brown was out in the middle east. He was there to tell the people in the Gaza how fortunate they were in having a life expectancy that was greater than Glasgow east.
2

Senga Jean,

22/07/2008 10:14:48
#1 If there is any sense and justice in the world they will. However Labour support is strong and holds the memories of Labour as a "Peoples" party which,of course ,they lost with Blair and Brown and NEW Labour. The SNP is now the "Peoples " Party but as they would say on TV will the voters notice this?
3

SteveS,

Shettleston 22/07/2008 10:16:37
Hi all, dont post often on these boards but had the SNP knock on my door yesterday. Quite suprised at how well they came across. Not sure if i can bring myself to vote for that smug salmond bloke though, always seems very smug but quite like that lassy sturgeon she comes across more geniune. Not sure if i'll vote at all really politicans are all the same
4

Senga Jean,

22/07/2008 10:22:29
#4 Deffo...They are people...good bad and ugly!!!!!
5

MacGillicuddy,

22/07/2008 10:43:06
#4
As someone else pointed out you would be voting for Mason and the SNP and not Salmond.
Or more importantly you would not be voting for another period of neglect, being taken for granted, being penalised for not being well-off, being penalised so that Brown can give £30million to the Palestinians which is much needed in Glasgow, being penalised by Labour's penchant for waging wars of aggression in which thousands of innocents are slaughtered at immense costs which could be channelled more usefully here, and being taken advantage of by Labour MPs who put personal financial gain at the very top of their unpublished political manifestos.
6

izzie,

dundee 22/07/2008 10:46:35
It seems to me that people continue to vote Labour believing in the myth that they have compassion for the working class. As was pointed out recently during Wendy's woes Labour is controlled from London and London Labour are more interested in foreign policy than ordinary people. If reports are to believed the Labour have not learned much from the Holyrood election campaign they still lack confidence are bitter and in disarray.
7

brownlie,

22/07/2008 10:55:47
4 Steve S


Steve, as being genuine is obviously important to you I would suggest that you consider which candidate is most genuine and vote for that person.

You should definitely vote one way or the other as the opportunity to vote is a precious right which is denied to people in too many other societies.
8

Scottish 'N British,

22/07/2008 10:56:51
Have to laugh at Nikki's latest embarrassing attempts to persuade/demand the Treasury to cough up the council tax rebate.

Never heard so much poo. She expects this dosh for a tax she'll no longer have.

Only the SNP, only the SNP.

9

yolanda,

22/07/2008 10:58:49
#4, Steve in Shettleston,

I think it is so important that you do vote. It's the only way to change things. Glasgow East constituents would benefit from looking around them and seeing what the policies of the various parties, and voting for the one that they believe serves their needs best. It's only by voting that the people can have any say in how their area is run. Please vote.
10

bill-alba,

fife 22/07/2008 11:00:48
Steve...vote for Mason because there is a reason why there may be a smug look on Salmon's face..just look at all the positives that a Scottish Government has achieved over 1 year period and all the negatives that the labour party has achieved over 50 years.
11

Publius,

London 22/07/2008 11:13:28
Yesterday I saw a yellow van going north on the M6 in Lancashire. The back was handpainted with a message in large letters. It said something like 'Vote John Mason. 21 days in Barlinnie. Misjustice'. (Can't remember exact words and it was quite fast past Charnock Richard sevice area where I was upstairs drinking a coffee and looking out the window.)

Is this an omen?
12

Arrow,

22/07/2008 11:15:04
"MARGARET Curran yesterday pledged to bring Chancellor Alistair Darling to Glasgow to hear voters' concerns over the soaring cost of living." extract from the Daily Retard last week. has he been seen in the area? is this another bit of puff?
history shows that the only way that Westminster and the Treasury pushes money out is if there is any danger of the government in office stands to lose power, any power. i beleive that Mrs Curran was claiming that she would be insistent that Westminster put money into various projects but these were project that were devoled to Holyrood and not in Westminster's "gift". that is of course unless she will ask whoever is the next chancer of the exchequer to give more money to the Scottish Government irrespective of the party who may be running Holyrood. or is there a caveat to the effect vote labour or you don't get the money. can we be told please?
13

sm753,

22/07/2008 11:19:38
No Jackie dear, what's funny is people like you who post tosh on the website of a newspaper you claim to despise.

Sometimes it's amusing tosh - as when a few weeks ago you claimed there were no hills in England, and no salmon either - people just fished "in canals, for perch and the like". Of course it was still more amusing that you somehow thought this was evidence of fundamental differences between Scots and English, and thus support for the Nat agenda.

A lot of the time, though, it's mildly offensive and unpleasant tosh. I have thought of playing "Jackie bingo" with points from your last post for "chagrin dripping from your mouths".

Points would be awarded for other favourites of yours like "vent", "spout", "spleen" and "bile". (Oh dear, there is something unpleasantly biological about your vocabulary, isn't there?)

But it really is marvellous when you shout your foam-flecked rage at #12 for proudly stating his Scottish and British nationality, as many (if not most) of us do. It just demonstrates what unpleasant, intolerant and assertive people many grass-root Nat supporters are.

A few more votes lost on Thursday. Ker-ching!
14

Mercian,

UK 22/07/2008 11:23:23
#4 SteveS

Commenting on these boards is like making a speech inside SNP HQ. Of course in reality by voting SNP, you will be voting for Salmond; he is the one who would be seen and heard across the entire country smugly boasting and evoking nausea with his bad jokes...
15

Scottish 'N British,

22/07/2008 11:26:25
19

Articulated perfectly, thanks for that.

Rather than seek ways in which to win converts to their cause (or for Mason on Thursday), some Separatists are more interested in monnikers and in directing bile. It would be amusing if they weren't so serious.

BTW, I see in the Hootsman that Team GB has 31 Scots going to China. More proud Scots happy to show off their Britishness.
16

Alasdair,

22/07/2008 11:39:04
Personally I'd vote SNP, but as I don't live in the area, my opinion doesn't really matter.

What I would say to all traditional Labour voters that are now swithering is this: Labour have given this are the WORST record in health and employment in Western Europe.
Take a second to thnk about that. The WORST.

So maybe you don't feel the SNP are right for you; that's fair enough. But please, why would you continue to vote for a party that has treated you so poorly for so long? Take 5 minutes to look at the bumf the various parties have shoved through your letterbox - there has to be someone that appeals a bit, and give them your vote.

Labour are proven failures in this. I honestly can't see a way anyone else can do worse.
17

Nevsky,

Moscow 22/07/2008 11:44:50
21:

Interesting that you speak personally and politically for all Scots attending the Olympics. Know them all do you?
18

sm753,

22/07/2008 11:47:18
Oh dear, must self-correct my own post #19 - I said many grass-root Nats were "assertive"; they probably are, but I meant obsessive.

My advice to those voting in Glasgow East would be to first decide if there's any candidate they might want to vote for. If not, then decide who to vote against.
19

Nevsky,

Moscow 22/07/2008 11:49:20
22.

Good and realistic post. Just who can people in Scotland vote for. There is only one party that can take power realistically and that is the SNP and quite why people are on these boards defending the record of Labour is beyond me (oh sorry not many do defend Labour but rather prefer to just sneer at the SNP or indeed sneer at their own country).

20

subrosa,

22/07/2008 12:10:44
I notice David Marshall's 'dealings' have been exposed in the Scottish Sun. Seems his daughter is running 2 property companies out of the famous "from room" for which us taxpayers have contributed approx £500,000.

You really couldn't make it up! To rub salt into the wounds a labour spokesperson said something like "Mr Marshall is no longer an MP so we have no comment".

He'll be picking up an MP's pension though.
21

subrosa,

22/07/2008 12:11:06
That should read "front room". Apologies
22

MacGillicuddy,

22/07/2008 12:11:49
#25
You have made a crucial point exactly.

Labour's record is such that even its supporters CANNOT defend it which is why they spew out nothing more than bile and venom.

Labour has done sfa for the ordinary person. It favours only the better off at the same time as personal gain for its politicians. The entire Labour Party is corrupted by its war-mongering the costs of which are driving us towards penury (except of course the Labour politicians).
It is now only a matter of time before Bliar and Broon go down the same route as Karadzic but I guess their excuse will be they were "only obeying orders" (of the Labour Party membership).
23

jenny,

Somewhere east of Glasgow east 22/07/2008 12:12:20
So if Labour haven't delivered and the SNP are only interested in splitting up the union and relying on the very dodgy income from oil, why not vote for the party which values the individual above all - the Libdems.
See you at the polls dressed in my best yellow tee shirt!
24

MacGillicuddy,

22/07/2008 12:14:50
#27
Doubtless he will also go the same route as all Labour's failures...... to the Lords.
25

subrosa,

22/07/2008 12:20:17
#31

Auch MacGillicuddy, the manny's no weil. He'll no be able tae git oan a plane.
26

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22/07/2008 12:21:34
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Nevsky,

Moscow 22/07/2008 12:23:51
Let's have some Labour members telling everyone why they should vote Labour. Have not heard on comment from any of them so would be good to have their point of view instead of the usual nonsense.

Just how are they promoting the forthcoming recession, rising prices, highest ever national borrowing rates a chancellor that seems to be making economic policy on the hoof, a party sure to lose the next election, riddeled with corruption and a dead duck and loathed Prime Minister?

Just how are they selling this to the voters?
28

Alastair the First,

22/07/2008 12:24:26
I would think that many of the Scottish competitors in the Olympics would far rather be competing for Scotland. Surely just a matter of time before we have a Scottish winner unfurling a saltire on the podium, or perhaps even refusing to compete under a Union flag. i know politics and sport are supposed to be kept apart, but there is a very good opportunity there for someone to take a strong stand against the pathetic red white and blue image that the likes of Gordon Brown and his unionistas try to associate with Scotland.

Time Scotland competed in the Olympics as Scotland. It's good enough for the Commonwealth Games, so it should be good enough for the Olympics. The arguments against are spurious and in some issues just downright untrue.

I for one won't be cheering anyone who competes under the auspices of the GB team.
29

Scottish 'N British,

22/07/2008 12:24:50
There's not point in voting for Mason.

He stated on Newsnight Scotland that he's keen to split up the Union. To him, Westminster is a waste of time. What's the point in sending him there, then?

The voters of Glasgow East can either vote for someone who'll agitate and take part in planned walkouts (Mason) OR, they can vote for someone who believes in the place, will sit in the chamber and fight for them till she's red in the face (Margaret Curran).

Simple choice to me.
30

subrosa,

22/07/2008 12:25:18
Anyone seen the photo accompanying the article about Brown supporting Israel?
31

Tris,

Dundee 22/07/2008 12:27:35


~12... yes, much better they spend that money on other things....

Look at all the good things they do with it; there's all the money they spend on making those people in Iraq and Afghanistan more British in their ways, and soon Iran too; then there's that nice funeral they're gonna giove that lovely old woman Margaret, who did so much for all of us, bless her; then there's MPs' and Lords' salaries and expenses, and bounty payments for companies that will force ill people to work.

All much more deserving causes than a fair tax that will help the lower orders. Goodness, give them a fair tax and next they will be wanting to be warm all winter, and then what? People in the City might have to end up giving up some of their bonuses.... swiftly followed by the end of the world.

Tube.
32

subrosa,

22/07/2008 12:28:28
# 36

You know the answer to your question surely. If it's slipped your mind then let me repeat it. SNP MPs are required in the UK parliament to ensure that legislation affecting Scotland is thoroughly examined and given full scrutiny. As 80%+ of our laws are now made by the EU these need to be monitored.

There's also the slight point of ensuring the UK government remember Scotland. Labour MPs from Scottish constituencies do nothing to promote Scotland.
33

Scottish 'N British,

22/07/2008 12:30:26
30

Best of luck, jenny.

You can hold the coats as the Separatists and Unionists slug it out!!

35

Thankfully, you'll be in the minority.

Robertson, Hoy, Wells and numerous others have been in the papers over the last couple of years to espouse the necessity for Scots athletes to continue working within the British-wide athletics framework.

34

Nevsky,

Moscow 22/07/2008 12:31:27
36:

You mean the way all Labour MPs have fought for Glasgow..a city with some of the most deprived areas in Europe.

Simple choice for a simpleton i think!
35

Nevsky,

Moscow 22/07/2008 12:33:21
40:

Yes this is true as Scotland has nearly no world class facilities for their athletes!
36

Lock,

22/07/2008 12:41:57
I cannae see the East End of Glasgow voting for a Mason.
37

Scottish 'N British,

22/07/2008 12:43:59
41

There are deprived area across most of Scotland, England, Wales, Northern Ireland too. As there are in India, China, France, Italy, the US etc.

Gloating over failure isn't the way ahead for Scotland, let alone the people of Glasgow East.

Solving this challenging problem is where we need to concentrate our efforts.

42

Surely British-wide is self explanatory.
38

Arfur,

22/07/2008 12:48:41
#36 Scottish 'N British - you sir are idiot.

"they can vote for someone who believes in the place, will sit in the chamber and fight for them till she's red in the face (Margaret Curran)"

Hmmm - like the Labour lackys that have been in control of east end Glasgow from the dawn of time turning it into one of the worst areas of Europe? Labour members in Scotland will do what they always have done -what they are told by London.

As for Margaret Curran, she will fight for them till she's red in the face, will she?

Was she doing that when she voted
For the tax increase
For the Iraq war
For the degrading tax credits

and absained
Against Council tax freeze
Against Persciption fees reduction
Against smaller class sizes
Against more police

Yeh she will fight till shes red in the face alright, against everything good that the SNP are trying to do in this country.
39

CLX,

WayUpNorth 22/07/2008 12:50:19
Ahhh, now the real reason for the by-election comes out.....

"Labour today refused to be drawn on claims the daughter of retiring Glasgow East MP David Marshall operated two private firms from the Marshall family home which also houses Mr Marshall's publicly-funded office."

And the even funnier bit is.....

"Two doctors' letters said he wasn't fit to carry on, and we have accepted that."

Sleaze and cover up..nah...just downright dishonesty and greed....
40

Free by '93,

22/07/2008 12:56:59
Nicola Strugeon today said that voting SNP was like an impulse buy and a lot of people were telling her they had their vote so they would f**k off.

Tam from glasga said "F**k man, they SNP are worse than the f**king hoover salemen."
41

Nevsky,

MOscow 22/07/2008 12:58:59
44:

The slight difference between Glasgow and India as a parallel is that the people are the most deprived in Europe while they have been either under
a) a Labour MP or
b) a Labour administration...

i think these are the rather important points you are missing...

But still apparently a simple matter for you to vote Labour?
42

Free by '93,

22/07/2008 12:59:43
48 Priest

You are a moron. There is no analogy on poverty and geographical autonomy within the political borders agreed in medieval times.

In fact isn't it true that the SNP are diverting funding back from Glasgow to Edinburgh because they realise that Glasgow citizens do not want to better themselves.
43

Nevsky,

Moscow 22/07/2008 13:02:28
49:

What were they telling David Marshall on the streets i wonder, thanks for stealing our cash and having us pay for you at the same time?

Anyone know what is wrong with Marshall...corruptumonia i heard?
44

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22/07/2008 13:02:56
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CLX,

WayUpNorth 22/07/2008 13:07:38
#52
I heard it was coruptamonia brought on by Labouritis of the cocksix...
46

Nevsky,

Moscow 22/07/2008 13:11:07
Just how will the law be applied to David Marshall? Will he be too ill to claim the dole now or will he be cleaning the streets to get his jobseekers allowance? Could Labour members exlain the policy again to clarify it for David?
47

Nevsky,

Moscow 22/07/2008 13:12:12
I bet he is fit enough to check his internet bank account so maybe a call centre vacancy awaits?
48

sm753,

22/07/2008 13:14:42
45

Look love, the IOC only recognises nation-states. They don't take teams from Catalonia, Corsica or Baden-wurttemberg either. Blame them.

Interesting you keep asserting "most" people think they're Scots "not" British. All the polling just passes you by, doesn't it?

As for the East End of Glasgow, its problems go back over a century and are very similar to those of Newcastle, Liverpool, Belfast, Manchester and so on. They loom larger to us because of the sheer size of Glasgow relative to the rest of Scotland.

With problems this deep-seated it's a bit futile to blame one party or another because you end up concluding "it's everyone's fault". With one exception, though - if there had been no Union, Glasgow would never have grown and industrialised the way it did in the first place, would it?

So whatever the failings of Labour in UK and local Glasgow government, there's no point in voting for the party which blames all ills on the Union.

If I lived there I'd be holding my nose and voting for Ms Curran.
49

Stuntman Mike,

22/07/2008 13:22:27
What most people seem to be noticing about this byelection campaign is the sheer number of Nat activists who have imposed themselves on the populace of Glasgow East. Indeed, they outnumber Labour by a substantial amount (2,000 to 500): about says it all about the passionate evangelism of the nationalist movement in Scotland, methinks!

I know that the good people of Glasgow East should feel flattered by attention they don’t normally receive and would like to condemn the actions of the individuals, in what was described as a “Labour area”, who hurled items of furniture at one of those nice activists who only wanted to share the nationalism, which has sadly come to dominate his life, with others (Sunday Times, Ecosse: 20 July).

Give or take the odd flying side table, nationalism in its Scottish incarnation is truly a philosophy with broad appeal in both rural Perthshire and the Gaza Strip (as this area has been labelled by the Nats in their usual patronising fashion). I await the verdict of Glasgow East on all this with interest.
50

Nevsky,

Moscow 22/07/2008 13:22:47
58:

"So whatever the failings of Labour in UK and local Glasgow government, there's no point in voting for the party which blames all ills on the Union."

Really? I have never heard a more ridiculous or apathetic statement.


51

MacGillicuddy,

22/07/2008 13:23:54
#58

You are quite correct to say that the current impoverished state of affairs in Glasgow is not the fault of the pernicious union per se. The blame for the impoverishment can be aquarely laid at Labour's door.
Curran and her party deserve no votes, not even yours.
52

Teamdroid,

22/07/2008 13:25:16
#21 - from the comments in the article you note, you may also notice that Ireland are sending over 50 to Beijing, while team New Zealand numbers 182 - and both are smaller than Scotland. Norway are sending more than 50 too. I suspect that per capita, Scotland's representation at the Olympics will be among the lowest of developed nations.

I'm proud of the 31, but like increasing numbers I'm asking "why not more?"
53

Nevsky,

Moscow 22/07/2008 13:26:53
59:

Why does the Sunday Times call its Scottish supplement 'Ecosse'? Is it popular in France?

54

Scottish 'N British,

22/07/2008 13:28:22
60

More to the point, what do you, or the the SNP, have to offer, aside from rant and bile.

We've seen your party in opposition, we've seen them in power.

This probably explains your one-dimensional approach.

55

jacquesmac,

France 22/07/2008 13:31:56
So the English don't get it
56

kimba,

22/07/2008 13:33:31
62.In case you hadn't noticed scotland are sending none,GB however, (of which scotland is still part of) is sending one of it's strongest teams ever!
57

Scottish 'N British,

22/07/2008 13:35:48
59

hehe, thanks for sharing that.

Picture it

Activist:
Hiya, pal, we expect yir voting for Alex Salmond's pal, er, er, Mason, that's it, on Thursday, an' gie Broon a guid kickin in the goolies, eh, pal?"

"Ya numpty, wir Labour - always was, always will be - now do one - in fact wait a wee minute, I've got a wee something for yer campaign"

Would love to see that one on YouTube.
58

kimba,

22/07/2008 13:36:15
65. LOL, we"get it",but choose to ignore it!
59

MacGillicuddy,

22/07/2008 13:36:53
#67
pro tempore!
60

kimba,

22/07/2008 13:39:06
66. Chill girlie,you are stressing over nothing,snp will lose end of story.
61

MacGillicuddy,

22/07/2008 13:41:57
Well said Jackie!

I have even managed to cover-up all that " her brittanic majesty" p!sh and coat of arms in my passport and no immigration official anywhere has ever questioned it. Thankfully our own Scottish passports will be along shortly!
62

Edward,

22/07/2008 13:42:37
#64 Scottish 'N British
Can you explain what the UK Government do for Scotland?
How about why the UK Government dont lift a finger for the Scottish Fishermen. In case you wondered Scottish Fishermen atribute over 75% of all fishing in the UK
So when it comse to standing up for Scottish fishermen, what has the UK Government ever done?
Apart from giving away fishing rights
or as of today, not helping with the high price of fuel

63

SteveS,

Shettleston 22/07/2008 13:43:46
To be honest things arnt that bad here. I have a decent enough job, weve just had another wean and the nurses at the royal infirmary were very good. its just a bit annoying talking down the area. a lot of the posters here seem to think that the SNP are the right answer but what makes them different to labour? I mean in the last year nothing theyve done has helped me really the cost of living is going up i dont have a car and my gas bill is getting bigger. By voting the SNP in at london can it really make a difference to me or should i vote labour and hope for the best. One thing i wont be voting for is the bloody conservatives.
64

An Beal Bacht,

22/07/2008 13:43:59
Well - it should be obvious to everyone by now that the SNP are going to win this one. So - when can we expect GB's resignation and a general election?


65

MacGillicuddy,

22/07/2008 13:46:27
I suggest St Andrew's Day and we can all celebrate!
66

CLX,

WayUpNorth 22/07/2008 13:46:37
I see Kimba has come out of pre winter hibernation and contributing nothing as usual.

Jackie, just confuse her with big words (more than 2 letters should suffice) and she'll roll onto another blog.........
67

An Beal Bacht,

22/07/2008 13:46:55
75 - SteveS, Shettleston 22/07/2008 13:43:46

Congratulations on the wean. Glad to hear things are going well for you. Vote for whoever you think will build the best country for that wean.

Slainte
68

Silent Hunter,

Fintry, Scotland 22/07/2008 13:47:58
ScottishNBritish:

'......they can vote for someone who believes in the place, will sit in the chamber and fight for them till she's red in the face (Margaret Curran).

Simple choice to me.....'

Yes I'm sure she's looking forward to getting her snout into the Westminster Trough.....just like her predecessor Mr Marshall.
The LABOUR MP who claimed £500,000 for sitting in his front room.........sorry! 'office'.......which we now find out was also used by his daughter to run not one, but TWO property companies (I wonder how many other Glasgow East constituents can afford to run 'property companies')........what an almighty CROOK!

Funny that last week Ms Curran was praising him......now it's David Marshall who?

Yes......... she's precisely the sort of New Labour two faced shrill that a 'simpleton' would vote for.

Oh! and let's just remind the good folk of Glasgow East of Mr Brown's embrace of Mrs Thatcher, inviting her to Downing Street presumably to allow her to thank Gordon for carrying on HER policies so faithfully.
69

kimba,

22/07/2008 13:48:31
71. Not according to our friends in Austria and Switzerland,Britain and the British are still held in great asteem,one old guy in Austria told me he would be grateful to britain as long as he lived,"you saved my life during the war" he said.
70

MacGillicuddy,

22/07/2008 13:50:29
#81
And not forgetting the state funeral which Labour are planning to give Maggie. It is to be funded by the selling of stakes to drive through her heart. How very new Labour!
71

SteveS,

Shettleston 22/07/2008 13:50:50
82

Its not that i dont want to vote, but i just dont see it making any difference
72

kimba,

22/07/2008 13:51:17
78. You really are a sad individual,tell you what chum,go stick your heid in the gas oven mark 7 should do nicely!
73

MacGillicuddy,

22/07/2008 13:52:04
oops 83 was for #80.
Then again I suppose kimba would buy a stake as well.
74

kimba,

22/07/2008 13:53:22
76. And what dream was that in?
75

sm753,

22/07/2008 13:57:55
#66 & #71

Jackie honey

The reason I'm so nice to you is that I, as a Unionist, am filled with love for all my fellow Britons. No matter how foul-mouthed some of them (i.e. you) can sometimes be.

I have no idea what gender of "Jackie" you might be, and I don't care. By the way you don't know what I am either, do you?

Now, another lesson for you in basic semantics and arithmetic.

In post 45 you said:

"a Scot cannot choose to compete for Scotland or even demonstrate that they are Scottish not British if that is how they feel, which MOST of them do" (my capitals)

But by your own poll numbers only 24% said they were "Scots not British" and 65% claimed some level of Britishness.

So you have yourself demonstrated that your own claim in #45 was false. Well done, have a banana.

Sheesh - fish, barrel etc.





76

Scottish 'N British,

22/07/2008 14:01:00
75

Congrats. You are spot on. Things aren't as bad as the SNP (and the media) are making out. New schools are in place and affordable housing is sprouting up.

As to who to send to Westminster - Mason wants an end to the Union. Can he be trusted to speak up for the East End? Curran I suspect WILL fight tooth and nail for you.

If you're reading this Margaret, first call is to Darling). After schools and housing, next off are jobs.

Radical thought - the MOD's budget is £bn's. For a start, howsabout diverting some MOD civilian spin off contracts from areas that vote in Separatists and move them, plant them in the East End of Glasgow.

It's Time

For A New Start.

77

CLX,

WayUpNorth 22/07/2008 14:01:33
Ahh Kimba, now my days is complete. You just don't know when to shut up do you?
For your information I am quite a happy individual without the need to stick my head in the oven - I will leave that to you given your well catalogued addiction to food...

Now, go away before Greenpeace turns up to roll you back off dry land.....
78

Edward,

22/07/2008 14:02:44
#75 Steve
Vote for who ever you think is best for you
but remember this, Glasgow East has had 30 yesrs worth of Labour and to what advantage?
All Ive seen is that David Marshall was helping himself to half a million of tax payers money, which included paying his staff, consisting of his wife and daughter £ 400,000 and paying £ 91000 towards office expenses, namely his front room. It also now transpires that his daughter has and is running 2 business from the same front room. Now Margaret Curran is probably an honest woman, at least if she is voted in, she will benifit from the £ 24,000 shopping expenses at John Lewis, that all the Scottish Labour MP's voted for themselves (I would imagine not many in Glasgow East earn £ 24,000 do they).
Now John Mason, may not come accross very well, but he does live in Glasgow East, unlike Margaret Curran
and if he is elected, he will have a point to prove, unlike Margaret Curran, who will just be yet another Labour mp from Scotland
Balance it up, do you want to continue Labour's spending habits (mainly there own) without change, or give John Mason a chance. Remember in less than 2 years, there has to be a general election, so if you dont like him, then vote him out then
79

An Beal Bacht,

22/07/2008 14:05:51
89 Scottish 'N British, 22/07/2008 14:01:00 wrote:

"It's Time

For A New Start."

ROFLMAO
80

Edward,

22/07/2008 14:06:41
#89
Wonderful stuff 'tinme for a fresh start' did you think that one up yourself?
This has been what Labour have been spouting over the last 2o odd years very time thers an election
What about that visit by Alistair Darling. This has been bandied about by Margaret Curran since she was anounced as candidate. But so far nada from Darling and guess what? 3 days to go, he isnt going to show either! so your kidding yourself in thinking that Labour care. The only thing in Margaret Currans sights is what is on her John Lewis shopping list!
81

kimba,

22/07/2008 14:06:48
75. Labour will deliver,salmond and swinney can't even get their sums right,don't put yourself between a rock and a hard place,salmond does not have the resources to solve the problems in glasgow east,brown does.
82

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 22/07/2008 14:12:24
#67 kimba

quote: "of which scotland is still part of"

Still struggling with the basics of the English language I see. Nothing changes.
83

An Beal Bacht,

22/07/2008 14:13:02
Who would ever have thought that the SNP could take labour's heartlands? Just wait 'till the general election which must be coming soon. No leader in Holyrood and soon no leader at Westminster. Labour - the party's over.
84

Miss H,

22/07/2008 14:14:19
75 What makes the SNP different to Labour is that the SNP are for an independent Scotland. That would mean that all decisions about Scotland were taken by the Scottish Parliament and not – as is the case at present – some of the decisions taken by the Scottish Parliament and some by London.

What difference would that make? Well it would mean that there would be more joined-up decision making leading to more successful outcomes - and that the interests of Scotland would always come first. As long as we are part of the Union that will not happen. There are more people living in London alone than in the whole of Scotland so it’s no surprise if the interests of the south east of England take priority over Scotland’s interests. That’s the price of the Union.

So that’s the long term reason to vote SNP and gain independence. In the short term you have to decide (if you are going to vote at all) between who you think will best represent you at Westminster, Margaret Curran or John Mason because the other candidates don’t have a chance. There is a choice to be made between two individuals and only you can make that choice. But you also have to consider what the outcome of the election will mean. If Labour wins it will mean that they carry on as usual. If the SNP wins they won’t. They will be forced to reassess some of their policies and do more to help people cope with the effects of rising prices or face seeing their support melt like snow on a dike and the Tories win the next election.


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kimba,

22/07/2008 14:17:16
90. Tell you what, try getting some manners,ups sorry,just gave you an impossible task! make no mistake labour will hold on to glasgow east.
86

Scottish 'N British,

22/07/2008 14:18:27
93

I thought of "It's Time, Separation by '09", only to remember the referendum is set for 2010, or is it 2011? Well, whenever Salmond decides 'to man up'.

I think most commentators recognise that this is Scottish Labour's last chance.

If they win on Thursday they can continue the good work happening in the East End. If the SNP win it's simply just more of the same Brigadoon-ish hollow promises.

87

kimba,

22/07/2008 14:20:37
97. WRONG. Salmond has already said he will make scotland part of the Europe "super state" so most of your orders will be coming from Brussels, FACT.
88

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 22/07/2008 14:20:49
Glasgow East is slipping from the dead hand of Labour.

The SNP will win this by around 2,500 votes.

Watch this space.
89

An Beal Bacht,

22/07/2008 14:22:45
Is it true that Curran has gone missing?
90

kimba,

22/07/2008 14:23:58
101. Yes indeed, please, all you snp supporters WATCH THIS SPACE, then go and cry into your beer!
91

The Master,

22/07/2008 14:26:20
If anyone wants an example of the knee jerk anti English reaction of nationalism, I would refer them to nationalist jibes at Labour for using a computerised mailing system which proved useless because it couldn’t’ cope with the obliques in Scottish tenement addresses (Sunday Times, Ecosse, 20 July). The Nats made great play of the fact that the system had been designed in England but, as someone pointed out to me in the pubs last night, they have flats down there as well, so maybe it’s just down to shoddy program design.

I would urge the people of Glasgow East to reject nationalism and vote for Margaret, whose focus is their welfare and not a dated creed which can only make conditions worse by putting Scotland through unjustified and unwarranted upheaval at this difficult time for the economy. VOTE VOTE VOTE FOR CURRAN IN GLASGOW EAST!
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sm753,

22/07/2008 14:27:20
97. DOUBLE WRONG. Your "independent" Scotland would be a tin-pot wee place with no means of ensuring its interests were looked after. For example on monetary policy, the SNP would either keep the pound (run by the MPC, which in this case would have Scotland excluded from its remit) or join the Euro (run by the ECB in Frankfurt, with whom Scottish concerns would have zero weight).

Whereas now we punch above our weight in the Union and the Union punches above its weight in the world.
93

Scottish 'N British,

22/07/2008 14:27:30
101

"slipping from the dead hand of Labour"

I never cease to be amazed at the chilling Separatist rhetoric. It's sooooo, Salmond-esque.

94

Scottish 'N British,

22/07/2008 14:29:42
105

As poll after poll shows in our rejection of a separate Scottish state out of Great Britain, we Scots know where we want to be.

'Dependence on England' replaced by 'Dependence on Europe'.

Thanks, but no thanks.
95

An Beal Bacht,

22/07/2008 14:30:18
104 The Master, 22/07/2008 14:26:20

Didn't they bus in paid canvassers from England? Couldn't find anybody in Scotland to do the job even for money? Too late son - it's over.
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kimba,

22/07/2008 14:35:18
Whether labour has or has not performed well in scotland is not the issue here,the issue is what will the snp do? without a shadow of doubt i can tell you that given the chance salmond will take scotland into the european "super state" with the euro as your currency,and Brussels as your masters,if you think the uk is bad you have seen nothing yet!