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Fresh blow for Salmond over Trump affair



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Published Date: 21 December 2007
ALEX Salmond was at the centre of a fresh row over his handling of the Trump golf development yesterday after it emerged he paved the way for a meeting between the Scottish Government's chief planner and representatives of the Trump organisation.
The First Minister yesterday tried to regain the initiative on the Trump issue, which has dogged his administration for the past two weeks.

Donald Trump wants to build a £1 billion golf resort, affecting Mr Salmond's constituency of Gordon. His application was initially turned down by Aberdeenshire Council, but was subsequently "called in" by ministers, who will now make the final decision on whether it goes ahead.

Mr Salmond has been under pressure over a meeting he held with Trump representatives in his role as constituency MSP a day before the application was called in. He hit back yesterday by publishing answers to 54 parliamentary questions about the government's handling of the affair.

He also published a letter from Sir John Elvidge, the head of the Scottish civil service, absolving officials of any wrongdoing, and held a press conference to explain his position, releasing a full statement from John Swinney, the finance secretary, explaining the government's approach at the same time.

However, Mr Salmond was knocked off course after revealing he met Trump representatives on 3 December, then phoned Jim Mackinnon, the government's chief planner, to ask if Mr Mackinnon was allowed to meet the Trump officials. When Mr Mackinnon said he could, a meeting was arranged for the next day.

The First Minister insisted he had not arranged that crucial meeting and stressed everything he did was done in his role as the local constituency MSP. But his opponents argued that no ordinary MSP would have the access to Mr Mackinnon that Mr Salmond has, and suggested that he had brought undue influence to bear on the planning process.

At First Minister's Question's, Wendy Alexander, the Scottish Labour leader, claimed Mr Salmond had "bypassed" the planning directorate and "secured" a meeting for Mr Trump's representatives with Mr Mackinnon.

And she asked Mr Salmond: "Do you maintain this was merely the routine action of a constituency MSP, or is it misuse of the position of First Minister?"

Mr Salmond referred Ms Alexander to Sir John's letter which, he claimed, cleared officials of any wrong-doing. He added that "ministers and civil servants have acted with total propriety".

After First Minister's Questions, Labour tabled another 25 parliamentary questions on Mr Salmond's handling of the issue.

Jackie Baillie, Labour's business manager, said: "There are more questions than answers about how the First Minister has conducted himself."

Answers to questions that won't go away in £1bn golf resort row

Who arranged and initiated the meeting between the Scottish Government's chief planner and Trump representatives?

John Swinney, the finance secretary: "The chief planner (Jim Mackinnon] took a call from Mr Salmond in his capacity as a constituency MSP. Mr Salmond sought advice from the chief planner on whether it would still be permissible for the officials from the Scottish Government planning directorate to meet representatives of the Trump organisation.

"The chief planner confirmed officials can meet with parties involved in a planning application but only to discuss options and the procedural implications, not to consider the merits of the case. A request was then made by the Trump organisation representatives. The chief planner arranged the time and venue."

Were government resources used in advance of Mr Salmond's meeting with Trump representatives?

Mr Swinney: "The Government Car Service was used, but it is commonplace for civil servants, including special advisers, to travel with ministers in government cars, to assist ministers to use time spent travelling to progress government business.

"It is also common for the minister's government car to convey such civil servants to their destination. (Sir John Elvidge], the permanent secretary, is satisfied the use of government car services in this case was consistent with such general practice and was appropriate and pragmatic."

When you phoned the chief planner, did you ask him to hold a further meeting with the Trump organisation the following day?

Alex Salmond, First Minister, at yesterday's press conference: "I asked Jim Mackinnon whether it was permissible still for members of the planning directorate to meet representatives of the Trump organisation.

"Jim replied that it was. He requested and arranged the meeting, and not me."

When you were in New York recently, did you talk to Donald Trump at a dinner you both attended and, if so, did you talk about this development?

Mr Salmond: "I spoke to Donald Trump but it was a meeting of Scottish Development International, with many businesses present.

"There were clearly no discussions about (a] specific development, it was about Scotland and development strategy.

"I spoke to Mr Trump, but I didn't speak about this development."

If he offered you a membership of this golf course, would you take it?

Mr Salmond: "I would be duty- bound under the terms of the ministerial code to pay for any membership I took for any golf club, and I am quite certain membership of many golf clubs in Scotland might strain my means."

Do you believe this development will now go ahead or do you believe it has had it?

Mr Salmond: "We will have to let events take their course. It's best for me to leave the determination of these matters to ministers responsible for it and stick to my self-proclaimed ordinance of not making any public comment, which could be interpreted as being for or against this development."

Has the SNP received any £950 donations from the Trump organisation?

Mr Salmond: "No. The SNP has received no money from the Trump organisation of any kind."

Who was at the meeting between the chief planner and representatives of the Trump organisation?

Mr Swinney: "The meeting was attended by Jim Mackinnon and David Ferguson, head of planning decisions at the Scottish Government, along with George Sorial and Neil Hobday, from the Trump organisation."

Will you apologise for any inaccuracies in briefings to the media?

Mr Swinney: "The BBC approached government officials on 12 December with questions about the chief planner's telephone contacts with Aberdeenshire Council. Those were answered correctly on 12 December.

"On 13 December, the BBC refined its question by changing a limited number of words. During the course of a busy day, officials did not realise the question had been changed slightly and repeated the answer given the previous evening.

"Once the mistake was identified, officials clarified the position to the media at the earliest opportunity. I regret this unfortunate, but easily understood error occurred."

Why, following your meeting with Mr Trump's representatives, did you call the chief planner, by-passing the rest of the planning directorate to secure for them a meeting the following morning with the chief planner? And do you maintain that this was merely the routine action of a constituency MSP or is it really the misuse of the position of First Minister?

Mr Salmond, at First Minister's Questions: "I have a letter from the permanent secretary which makes it clear that no civil servant has acted with anything other than total propriety and no civil servant has been asked to do anything improper.

"Ministers and civil servants have acted with total propriety."

How many other constituency MSPs can call the chief planner directly, bypassing the planning directorate, and secure a meeting with developers within 24 hours and a call-in within 24 hours?

Mr Salmond: "The permanent secretary writes that he has unambiguous confirmation from the chief planner that at no time has he been instructed by any party to act improperly.

"The chief planner was once requested to participate in a discussion with the Trump organisation. The date was January 2006, the First Minister was Jack McConnell and the deputy first minister was Nicol Stephen."

Why has Mr Salmond's government been refusing since August, a period of three months, to meet developers proposing a £1.2 billion development to redevelop the Rosyth Naval Dockyard?

Mr Salmond: "The chief planner is meeting this developer as he is meeting many other developers in Scotland."

• The Ramblers Association Scotland yesterday launched an urgent fund-raising drive to help meet the costs of a potential legal challenge against the Trump organisation's development and costs incurred in its failed legal battle on public access rights against business tycoon Ann Gloag.

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1

I'm Not a Madam, I'm A Concierge!,

Rutherglen 21/12/2007 00:17:58
Where's the list of questions for Wendy?
2

I'm Not a Madam, I'm A Concierge!,

Rutherglen 21/12/2007 00:24:49
Any pretence of quality or decency which this "Newspaper" may ever have had is long gone.

This latest "story" - a collection of nonsense masquerading as journalism, makes the Daily Record look like a serious newspaper.

Who is the editor of this drivel sheet? More to the point - who owns the Editor?
3

Conan the Librarian™,

21/12/2007 00:27:25
Blow?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_7150000/newsid_7153900/7153986.stm?bw=bb&mp=wm&news=1&bbcws=1
4

Comment is Free,

U.S. 21/12/2007 00:32:32
It is really sad to see the increasing influence of CNN in The Scotsman. If the Scotsman wants a fast ticket to becoming irrelevant it should continue publishing stories about non-events like this. CNN is often mistaken for innovative news coverage, so I guess The Scotsman can be forgiven for mistaking it for that. Really, who lets these people out of the journalism schools?

It appears that the crocodile is after Wendy this time, and it's Captain Brown who should be concerned about the ticking of the clock. I don't think there will be any Peter to save the Wendybird this time, who knows, maybe David Cameron will be dashing for her.
5

BIG EYE,

Paisley 21/12/2007 00:37:39


I tried to comment on the nonsense of this story but failed to get by the editorial control of this bastion of free speech.

If you want to be come the Scottish version of Pravda you are well on the way to success.
6

Sanny,

Glasgow 21/12/2007 00:39:59
This whole article is a complete distortion of the truth. How can any self respecting Editor pass this nonsense for publication. Will this paper publish a full retraction on its front page with appropriate headlines when Salmond wipes the floor with the committee in public?

Alex Salmond has being doing his job and that is representing the people who elected him. After eight years of a LibLab administration, that was little more than a post box for Westminster, the concept of working for the people may seem a strange concept, but get used to it the National Centred government is here to stay.

Now when will this paper turn to the very REAL corruption that is eating into the body politic? The disgusting money grubbing of the New Labour Party, both North and South of the border. Why have the police not called upon Wendy to answer questions on her potentially illegal actions? Why has the evidence in documents and computers not been seized to prevent possible contamination?

These are the question any self respecting Journalist should and would be asking.

I suppose we should be grateful to Wendy and Nichol; between them the have totally destroyed what little credibility their respective parties had and shown the doubters that the only way forward is Independence.
7

famous 15,

Edinburgh 21/12/2007 00:41:26
This is not a fresh story at all at all at all. This is sgadan loach....rotten fish..you could not make this up! Oh YES WE CAN! THE SCOTSMAN JUST DID SO!
8

Vivas,

Edinburgh 21/12/2007 00:44:02
In the area where I live, when folk take their dog for a walk, they take along a plastic bag to pick up and bin the dog shoite.

I would suggest a more bio-degradeable but more suitable candidate for parcelling the shoite would be the newspaper formerly known as "The Scotsman".
9

subrosa,

21/12/2007 00:45:24
'Fresh Blow' - utter nonsense. 'Paved the way for a meeting.....' Isn't that what MSPs are paid to do? I'd expect my MSP to do that for me if we were discussing a matter face to face. Get a grip Scotsman.

What about Wendy? Oh of course you've no comments on her because she doesn't allow the media to interview her or her cohorts. Pathetic.
10

An English Voice™,

21/12/2007 00:46:56
But didn't Salmond himself repeatedly say he was not involved in the planning process because that was "forbidden"? I do think he did.

Clearly the SNP Youth will be jumping to his defence as normal but there's no denying that Salmond has been caughting telling fat juicy porkies. I wonder what else he's hiding?

A politician caught telling lies to the electorate and to Parliament within seven months of office...MUST be a record. Surely.
11

Ricardo,

methil 21/12/2007 00:47:52
Haa!! forever .. "The Hootsman" Ive a guid mind to change to "The Scottish Daily Express" Vivas... Aye
12

Spotter,

21/12/2007 00:48:48
this is more good news for Alex
these days Pravda journalism does not work - hence no one at holyrood reads the record

its only very dumb people who cannot see through this
13

An English Voice™,

21/12/2007 00:50:25
Quick scroll up and, sure enough, lots of 'SNP supporters' all posting within minutes of each other!

Sanny, are you also 'famous 15', 'Vivas', 'BIG EYE' and 'subrosa'? Mmm?
14

Conan the Librarian™,

21/12/2007 00:53:14
13
Ev
Don't you quite get the concept of A LOT of SNP Supporters...Hey is there not an SNP Government...?
15

An English Voice™,

21/12/2007 00:55:27
Are you denying that the SNP Youth are using multiple usernames to make it look like there are more of them?

Are you?
16

Conan the Librarian™,

21/12/2007 00:59:44
15
Was that addressed to me,son?
17

Incandescent,

21/12/2007 00:59:58
Let's clear up one thing: as the MP for Buchan, it is Alex Salmond's JOB to facilitate inward investment that will benefit his constituents. As First Minister of Scotland, he should remain impartial. Therefore, legally, and until the law is changed, he uis perfectly legal to do this with his MP hat on. End of smear story.
18

An English Voice™,

21/12/2007 01:01:00
16. I thought that was obvious!
19

Mercutio,

FALKIRK 21/12/2007 01:01:29
The Nat Frat are out in force.The FM has I'm sure not done anything wrong, it is all a matter of peception.
20

Incandescent,

21/12/2007 01:01:33
An English Voice

Are you profoundly disabled or just no social life? You are on these boards all day, every day, and now, apparently, into the wee small hours.
21

Mercutio,

FALKIRK 21/12/2007 01:01:41
r
22

Conan the Librarian™,

21/12/2007 01:02:04
18
There are so many of us,son.
23

Spotter,

21/12/2007 01:02:10
listen salmond did the right thing for scotland getting the chief planner involved

he himself had expressed no preference -- salmond is scrupulous on this stuff even in private

its a slow burn but massive win for him bring on jan 16th --
24

Canadian Jambo,

canada 21/12/2007 01:02:24
Hobnobbing with the big guys. Alex is still a tartan tory. Too bad. What a chance to have Scotland developed by people who have an interest in her other than pure commercialism.
25

ochone,

Sauchie, Clack's 21/12/2007 01:02:47
English voice, (by the way only the kindest of heart would call me a youth)are you really suggesting that Wendy alexander was somehow able to obtain a piece of information that Sir John Elvidge was unable to get before writing his letter.

Now that is desperate.

Hi Conan.
26

Peeablo,

WendyGate 21/12/2007 01:04:44
Utter tosh !!!

More Trumped up garbage from the Hootsman.
27

Incandescent,

21/12/2007 01:04:53
25 ochone

Not a youth - I'm guessing at least SCS1
28

ochone,

Sauchie, Clack's 21/12/2007 01:05:46
Remember Conan, in the case of English voice, it's not nice to mock the afflicted.
29

An English Voice™,

21/12/2007 01:06:25
22. No denial. Shock, horror.

If there are so many of you, you wouldn't need to be a small bunch of tedious prats by posting under several names each, would you.
30

Incandescent,

21/12/2007 01:07:13
the profoundly impaired
31

An English Voice™,

21/12/2007 01:08:05
20. Do you see the irony in YOUR post?
32

ochone,

Sauchie, Clack's 21/12/2007 01:08:16
Incandesent, ok i'll bite SCS1?
could you explain please.
33

Conan the Librarian™,

21/12/2007 01:09:08
28
Ochone,ochone,but its FUN!Yehaah

How are ye doing?
34

Incandescent,

21/12/2007 01:09:12
29

I fought a 2 month running battle with some tool and the admin to reclaim my rightful name, so certainly not me.
35

Incandescent,

21/12/2007 01:10:01
32

Senior Civil Service, Grade 1 (Head of Division)
36

Spotter,

21/12/2007 01:12:32
alex is going to get in a good situation after all this
and wendy is prob heading for jail

and nicol for oblivion

cest las vie
37

ochone,

Sauchie,Clack's 21/12/2007 01:13:17
I don't know, I just pop away to post the next thrilling instalment of the AM2 family saga on my web page(entitled, Introducing Mildew Cringe) and when I get back it's to find the Scotsman has a report on First Ministers Questions that doesn't bear much resemblence to what I watched on TV
38

Conan the Librarian™,

21/12/2007 01:13:50
29
What you can't understand Ev.
That there is lots...and lots of us.
39

Incandescent,

21/12/2007 01:14:23
Wendy is a thoroughly unpleasant person - it's not just special advisors who left under her command
40

Gregor Addison,

Glasgow 21/12/2007 01:14:29
Wendy Alexander has come out of hiding to attack Alex Salmond. Who would have believed it? She must scent blood. Maybe now that she's back in the public domain we can expect some answers from her?
41

ochone,

Sauchie, Clack's 21/12/2007 01:16:26
Fine Conan thank's.

The senior bit was right but that was the only bit incandescent, but thanks i'll take it as a compliment.

I think.
42

Incandescent,

21/12/2007 01:16:35
...and out of the public eye, expletives
43

An English Voice™,

21/12/2007 01:19:41
38. No, there isn't and you know it!

What's the real number? Four? Five?

44

Incandescent,

21/12/2007 01:20:12
41 - Ochonie

Must've been your measured tone, together with your use of "Sir" John Elvidge. Most folk don't know who the Permanent Secretary is. By the way, the knighthood is automatic after one year in charge of a Government Department (which the so-called Scottish Government is still considered by the Civil Service)
45

Incandescent,

21/12/2007 01:20:38
Six?
46

Conan the Librarian™,

21/12/2007 01:21:23
43
Well there is me.
And that is all I can vouch for.
47

Conan the Librarian™,

21/12/2007 01:25:53
43
However there happens to be an SNP Scottish Government.
Hmm.So there is only four or five of us.
48

ochone,

Sauchie, Clack's 21/12/2007 01:26:54
Conan does that mean your not me then?
49

Ard Righ,

The Rock Of Edinburgh 21/12/2007 01:27:49
I have not seen the area proposed for this Golf Course, the real and only question is, is this appropriate for the area?

Personally speaking as a lover of nature, I can't think that the fragile natural balance man all to often interferes with, to the detriment of his own progression, that this would be unwelcome.

The essential trivial nature of the above politicking is awful.
50

Silver Shred,

in the jamjar 21/12/2007 01:28:46
Canadian Jambo - what a wag!

"Alex is still a tartan tory. Too bad. What a chance to have Scotland developed by people who have an interest in her other than pure commercialism."

I mean look at this entry in the Parliament's Register of Interest, when it comes to property development,

"Braehead CSC Retail (£200), Capital Shopping Centres UK Property Group (£300), Abbotsinch Properties (£300)"

Bang to rights, Oh, wait a minute - that's WENDY ALEXANDER's Register of Interests - donations from the property developers whose out-of-town developments have ripped the guts out of the High Street in the heart of her constituency.
Wendy's a past-mistress at hob-nobbing with off-shore property tycoons, as her recent difficulty illustrates.

How come this "article" fails to lead on the absolute destruction of Nicol the Non-entity at FMQs?

51

Conan the Librarian™,

21/12/2007 01:28:52
48
Let me check.

What have you got in your pocketses?
52

famous 15,

Edinburgh 21/12/2007 01:30:42
#43 I am the many testacled arms of medusa. Sorry I am the many tentacled feet of...snakes alive ...you confuse me honey. Anywho it is sad I am sure you will agree that the supposed National newspaper of Scotland is hell bent on giving Scotland a bad name in the world. Must look at the headlines in the Express tomorrow to see if the rumour is correct, If so. BYE BYE SCOTSMAN
53

ochone,

Sauchie, Clack's 21/12/2007 01:31:24
Pockets? just how wealthy do you think we are?
54

ochone,

Sauchie, Clack's 21/12/2007 01:35:52
Ah well time for bed, these unionists aren't fun any more
55

Conan the Librarian™,

21/12/2007 01:37:14
53
Ochone.ochone.(tolkien)ring...me.
56

Incandescent,

21/12/2007 01:53:31
49, 55

I'm deeply impressed by your staying power today, unless you hadf a nap at drive time...
57

a proud doonhamer,

Dumfries 21/12/2007 02:05:59
When I went to school, I was taught that fabrication was not allowed. However, the editor has seen fit to allow it in the case of this article.

The article is constructed to appear to be a question and answer session between the writer and Swinney/Salmond. This is not accurate. The question and answer session did not take place. The writer has plagarized answers from the responses to the tabled Parliamentary and used them as fabricated responses to concocted questions that were never put to the parties.

This action is dispicable and does not meet any test of journalistic integrity. The writer has become both questioner and responder. The editor has failed to stop this obvious fabrication and allowed it to be printed. No amount of journalistic licence can cover up fabrication.

The Scotsman must issue a public retraction and apologize to the readership for this flagrant and inexcusable action. Failure to do so will confirm its contempt for ethics and accountabiity.

The readers ombudsman should also investigate this article and processes which led to its publication.
58

Ian MacBeth,

21/12/2007 02:12:14
Hamish, you're article seems to have been misplaces, shouldn't it have been in the comedy section.

It seems the head of the civil service in Scotland is happy with the proceedures followed by all concerned. You and all the other anti-Scottish unionists have to 'get over the fact that we now have an SNP government. It was the will of the people, so don't act as if the people are wrong and only you are right. It's called democracy, so show some respect to the Scottish people.

Here's a copy of a letter written by the head of the civil service in Scotland, Sir John Elvidge, who by the way happens to be an Englishman. Note the unbiased assessment.


'Dear John,

As you know, there has been an unusual degree of parliamentary and public interest in the activities of civil servants involved in the handling of the planning application made by the Trump Organisation for a resort development at the Menie estate. Some of this interest has carried with it an implication that members of my staff have, in some way, acted improperly.

As a result, I have felt it necessary to consider the way in which this case has been handled, to enable me to have confidence that there has been no impropriety. I have considered the behaviour of the civil servants involved and am satisfied that they have fully met the standards of propriety expected of them.

I have also received unambiguous confirmation from the Chief Planner that he has, at no time, been instructed by any party to act improperly. He has also made it absolutely clear to me that he feels he has applied the same rigour in this particular case, in terms of following due process and having regard to the expected standards of conduct, as he would do in any other planning case.

Yours sincerely,

John Elvidge'


Hamish,instead of writing a whole lot of twisted garbage why don't you instead write the facts as they become known. That way you might someday be looked upon as a journalist.
59

Incandescent,

21/12/2007 02:12:35
I just re-read the article. Alex is questioned about the powers of a "constituency MSP"; he is actually the Westminster MOP for Banff & Buchan. Woops - most of these questions are based on factual, published ignorance.
60

Incandescent,

21/12/2007 02:13:10
Westminster MP, that should have read.
61

I'm Not a Madam, I'm A Concierge!,

Rutherglen 21/12/2007 02:13:34
The real burning question in politics:

In a pie eating contest (sponsored by Labour Bakeries out of public money) - between Wendy Alexander and Jackie Baillie who would win?

It's true the latter has by far the bigger belly but consider the size of Wendy's geggy - it's like a pelican's, she could store a dozen in there surely.



62

b h,

dornoch 21/12/2007 02:15:05
To the Scotsman: how are sales?

A horse is a horse, of course, of course,
unless, of course, the name of the horse is the famous English Voice.
63

Edward,

21/12/2007 02:16:35
This paper should be found in the comic section in the newsagents. With articles like this, its pure fiction!
When will it get serious and start investigating the Scottish Labour Party, or is that to much like real journalism, where as they acn simply and cheaply rely on Labour providing their copy!
64

BrianHill,

Edinburgh 21/12/2007 02:18:12
So much of this story is old news, apart from the questions at the end, easily answered. The judicial Inquiry has gone and been replaced by a relatively harmless Holyrood Committee.

Where is the story? Perhaps a bigger story is the fact that the Barclay brothers are such staunch Unionists they are happy to destroy a once fine newspaper by instructing its editors to produce anti SNP/Scottish pap on a daily basis.
65

I'm Not a Madam, I'm A Concierge!,

Rutherglen 21/12/2007 02:23:52
Obviously the Scotsman "journalists" live in some bizarre world where everything is the complete opposite of reality.

Nobody who watched or listened to FMQ's could possibly form any other opinion other than Alex Salmond wiped the floor with that ragbag of oddballs and misfits which laughingly calls itself an Opposition.

Unless you inhabit Scotsmanworld of course in which case Salmond suffered a "new blow".

66

Christina, Aberdeen,

Aberdeen 21/12/2007 02:24:26
An alternative headline to this excellent fictional story might be
"Fresh Blow to Hootsman Over Labour Brown-Tonguing"

67

I'm Not a Madam, I'm A Concierge!,

Rutherglen 21/12/2007 02:25:54
#66

alternatively "Hootsmon Blows Labour"
68

I'm Not a Madam, I'm A Concierge!,

Rutherglen 21/12/2007 02:31:32
Fresh Blow To Opposition:

Bridge Toll Abolition passed Thursday as per manifesto

Graduate Charge dumped Thursday as per manifesto

More broken promises? LOL
69

Incandescent,

21/12/2007 02:37:38
64 The Barclay brothers sold the EEN and Scotsman to Johnston Press Holdings more than two years ago.
70

Buchanan,

Los Altos Hills 21/12/2007 02:39:26
Alex Salmond Wipes Floor With Nicol Stephens

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh2c4rDJ9A4

71

walter,

21/12/2007 02:46:21
Now we know that where in the past the system was the developer submitted a planning application to the council and then they passed it onto the planning committee to scrutinise and either accept or reject.
If rejected the developer could negotiate with the council on the areas that it was rejected on or appeal the decision.
Why did the SNP not just say in the first place that the system had been altered and that the appeal system had been scrapped.
If a council rejects an application and the developer does not wish to negotiate with the council all they have to do is make a threat then have a meeting with the local MSP who can call the government chief planner directly bypassing the planning directorate and have the application called in all with in 24 hour.
I am sure that MSPs and developers up and down the country are jumping with joy that they no longer have to go through the tedious appeal system and that this way is a lot better.
I take it that this system is open to every MSP and developer and not just Salmond Trump or developer who wish to build in Salmond constituency.
72

Saltireblue,

The Blue Yonder 21/12/2007 02:54:34
Come on 'Scotsman', this article is rubbish; a lot of 'Trumped' up (pun intended) waste trying to masquerade as news journalism.

You used to be a better newspaper than this.

You could report on other issues. There is no need to apply 'meat extender' to old stories that the majority of Scots have already made their mind up on.
73

Incandescent,

21/12/2007 03:01:22
71

You are partially correct. The Scottish Executive/Government may "call in" at any time any planning application it deems to be of overriding national importance. End of story.
74

Christina, Aberdeen,

Aberdeen 21/12/2007 03:17:16
Little Red Wendy the Hood then used the remainder of her ill-gotten gains to hire a Big Bad Wolf to huff and to puff and to blow down Alex's House. Unfortunately the wolf turned out to be a little-known, but contented pig named Nicol, who merely cried 'Me! Me! Me!' before breaking wind and trotting all the way home to his usual place at the trough.
75

walter,

21/12/2007 03:20:20
#73
Do you have an example of a call in and who was involved and the time scale.
76

John Blackley,

Austin, TX 21/12/2007 03:23:32
Okay, even as one who disdains the Snippers and all they stand for, I'm puzzled by this one.

Now what is it Salmond's suffered a "fresh blow" over? I've read the article and I'm not seeing it.
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Incandescent,

21/12/2007 03:24:56
75 - Walter

Not going to do the digging - try this:

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/legislation/scotland/acts2006/asp_20060017_en_1
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redcliffe62,

21/12/2007 03:46:26
i advised previously i would not be posting in future.
as a one off on this article that bears no relation to reality.

when the record is more balanced politically than the scotsman, relatively speaking, then the scotsman has lost all credibility.

the silence on anything anti labour, scottish or british, which needs to be discussed is deafening.
very sad how this paper i bought for 25 years has gone downhill.
although the sport sections are as good as ever, that is not enough to make me read the opening pages of political diatribe in each issue.

surely the journalists have integrity. an dnot merley collecting apaycheque for regurgitating drivel.

61# raises the key issue, who could eat more pies.
i have to say that an outsider, a guy called salmond would win, with baillie a close second and alexander a distant third.

somebody said the scotsman is to unionism what fox news is to the republicans in amercia; fair and balanced my erse.

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Royster,

21/12/2007 03:49:09
Quite funny to see the SNP supporters blame the Scotsman as soon as anything negative about Salmond crops up. It just shows how cult-like the SNP is.
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walter,

21/12/2007 03:57:07
#77
I had a swatch through that link and I could not find anywhere in it saying that a MSP can meet with developers call the government chief planner direct and the then the developer meet with the planner and the decision to call in the application and all with in a 24 hour period of the meeting.
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Yokel,

Home 21/12/2007 05:02:17
Been away for a wee while. The Hootsmon aren't still trying to make a story out of this are they? How is Wendy doing these days?
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Auckland Arab2,

21/12/2007 05:09:56
Allegedly, it emerged, a spokesman said, it was reported, blah blah blah!

Read my lips, this is not a story. It is nothing less than an open attack on the Scottish Govt using any tactic, any ploy, any amount of lies, deceit, cover ups, bungs, dodgy foreign donations, etc. Its tragic and pathetic that a "newspaper" is prepared to stoop so low in its attempt to bring the SNP down to the gutter level of their paymasters, Brown & Alexander. Well sorry it wont work - Brown, Alexander and New Labour are bent and rotten to the core. The SNP Govt (all of 7 months old) may not be perfect but at least it has some integrity. Not a word that sits well with The Hootsmon comic publications.
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Fat Freddy,

21/12/2007 05:48:08
Smoke, fire, etc.
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Talorthane,

21/12/2007 05:51:25
I watched First Minister's Questions yesterday, andfind the headlineandstory here to bebewildering.

Yet again, Wendy Alexander asked thesamequestion repeatedly.

Yet again, Alex Salmond answered comprehensively, more than once.

Yet again, Wendy Alexander behaved as if she had not heard or not understood what Alex Salmond had said.

With this continued level of journalism and editorial control, as displayed by the Scotsman, I predict that sales will suffer, especially now that the Scottish Daily Express is prepared to give support to the SNP.
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THE HARRYLAUDER,

Scotlandshire edition 21/12/2007 06:37:43
FRESH BLOW FOR SALMOND OVER TRUMP AFFAIR

Yesterdays First Minister’s Questions promised to be a lively debate, and ‘The HarryLauder’ can report that it didn’t disappoint. Fresh from his bruising at the hands of Nicol Stephen last week Alex Salmond was about to begin round two.

First up was Wendy Alexander, fresh from her recent minor administrative error involving donations, she quickly set about Salmond with a question regarding the First Ministers dealings with the head of planning. Salmond desperately resorted to brandishing evidence in the form of an official letter from the Sir John Elvidge that completely exonorated the First Minister of wrong doing. Wendy had no such back up in the form of evidence to support her allegations and demonstrated remarkable fortitude in ignoring this stunt by Salmond, pressing him further.

It wasn’t about to get better for the First minister either when ‘Aunty’ Annabelle went for the jugular by calling Salmond ignorant. Goldie could have added smug, arrogant, fat, self important, liar, sleaze merchant, hatefull Nat to the list, however our Anabelle is only too aware that Unionists don’t need to descend to this level of name calling.

Salmond’s reply, listing the many policies already implemented that will benefit not only Scottish businesses but Scots as a whole was lacklustre, he was rattled.

Nicol Stephen was next for a struggling and defensive Salmond clearly flagging under the pressure of ‘sleazy trumpgate lies’. However Stephen demonstrated a hitherto unknown charitable side by refusing to hit Salmond when he was down. Rather than attempting to score cheap political points Nicol sought to get reassurances from the First Minister that life saving treatment will be available to sick children.

However this only served to allow Salmond to launch a tirade of abuse on a politician who had only the wellbeing of sick children in mind. That Salmond’s attack contained incontrevertible facts detailing real Libera
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THE HARRYLAUDER,

Scotlandshire 21/12/2007 06:40:58
...........l sleaze does not justify ignoring the plight of the ill and the weak.

Stephen commented afterwards “I have been reading A Christmas Carol and the thought of Tiny Tim suffering this Christmas compelled me to beg the First Minister to help, the foul mouthed rant that followed smelled of sleaze, law breaking and lies; I suspect that Salmond is Jacob Marley”

The HarryLauder can reveal that despite the letter from Sir John Elvidge clearing the SNP government of any misconduct that many people still believe that Salmond is guilty of all of the allegations. A recent survey carried out by The HarryLauder demonstrates clearly that the owners of The HarryLauder believe that Salmond is guilty. SNP supporters claim that there is no evidence to justify these allegations, however extensive research carried out by The HarryLauder can reveal that the vast number of HarryLauder articles have been supportive of the Unionist MSP’s and their allegations.

This is the scandal that won’t go away and to prove it we will be printing variations of it for the foreseeable future.

In keeping with The HarryLauder's lack of objectivity we have not asked any corrupt SNP ministers to comment.
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ruralboy,

I know where I am 21/12/2007 07:07:51
Look, the man with the name on this piece is not the only one to blame. Some senior subs will be involved as well - however to my eyes at least three clauses of the NUJ's code of conduct have been breached. (http://www.nuj.org.uk/innerPagenuj.html?docid=174)
But then again - Johnston Press - NUJ? I didn't think so...
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PDdod,

peterhead 21/12/2007 07:09:09
Salmond's roaring rant in the chamber yesterday clearly indicated he had lost the plot and the heid -Only months in office and steeped in controversy - What will it be like three years from now
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UrbanFox,

Edinburgh 21/12/2007 07:10:06
Good article. Salmond's role in the Trump affair has an unpleasant smell and the SNP are running scared. You can tell, they sit up all night typing on this BB. Sad.
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spiderman,

Argyll 21/12/2007 07:11:55
This story is a travesty of the truth. Salmond has done his job competently and correctly. The opposition, plus this newspaper, have gone off half-cocked on a non-issue, have made themselves and the country look stupid and will pay the price in future as the public show their increasing disdain for them, their incompetence and stupidity.
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steve 1511,

aberdeen 21/12/2007 07:14:57
has this paper been taken over by reporters from the daily star the sun or the daily sport,tomorrows headline will be, santa hides on the moon when not a work,you cannot make it up but the hootsman reporters can
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M.T.,

21/12/2007 07:19:42
This proposal from the Trump organisation may or may not benefit Scotland.
The decision by Aberdeenshire Council was so close that I would have been disappointed in the leadership of the Scottish Parliament if the opportunity was lost due to a lack of discussion of the project from them
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donald,

glasgow 21/12/2007 07:23:33
Savaged by dead sheep
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Bridged and tunnelled,

21/12/2007 07:26:59
When the dear leader can demonstrate which other constituency MSP, in this parliament or either of the earlier ones, can phone the Chief Planner, get through directly, and have a meeting arranged the following day, I will believe nothing untoward has been going on.

Oddly enough, I think the Trunp thing should have been called in, but the manner of it happening stinks.
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Ciderman 542000,

Forres 21/12/2007 07:30:58
The SNP rebuttal gang have failed to keep the lid on this. The incoherent rants above prove that, hoping that the volume of rants will drown out the message.
Salmond is a loser, a failed Westminster MP and another on-the-make politician.
It was only a matter of time before he would let you down. "Get used to it," as you SNP drones like to say.
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overton,

Balmedie 21/12/2007 07:34:01
Who are The Ramblers Association?
We certainly don't want these morons walking over our dunes - they can do what everyone else does, is entitled to, will continue to be entitled to, and that is walk up the beach so when they discover the location they will know the drill.

Nicol Stephen is indeed unelectable in Aberdeen.
He will have to move to somewhere else - preferably back to Mars and he must take his alien party with him.

If there is room in his return craft the entire Staff of The Scotsman must go back with him as well because they too are Martians and we here in Scotland are sick of their infiltration into our society and their negative, morale sapping reporting.
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Che Guevera,

Balmedie 21/12/2007 07:38:53
How typical of this anti SNP newspaper.
How hypocritical of Wendy A.
As for McLetchie and Stephen well words for them are unprintable...!!
Cheap very cheap points scoring.
The question : DID SNP do the correct thing for the people of Aberdeen, Shire and Scotland ?
Ofcourse they did.....End of discussion!!
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Auld Twa,

Edinburgh 21/12/2007 07:54:32
Has anybody writing in this column ( or the Labour Party )ever read the "Code of Conduct".
As a constituency MSP Alex Salmond can do just about anything that he wants regarding the Trump Application.
As FM he cannot either support or oppose it in public.
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