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'Two-year delay' blow for ID card proposals



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Published Date: 23 January 2008
GORDON Brown's plans for identity cards were dealt a blow last night after leaked documents revealed the government plans to delay a national roll out of the scheme for at least two years.
Despite repeated assurances that the controversial scheme is on track, Home Office documents show that the cards will only be issued to UK citizens from 2012 – two years later than stated.

The cards were due to be issued to people renewing their p
assports from 2010 under plans set out two years ago.

They will not be compulsory for British citizens until 2015.

The revelation from documents relating to the "delivery strategy" will prove embarrassing for the Prime Minister, whose support for them has been questioned by opponents.

It also follows a string of privacy disasters and blunders with personal data, culminating in the revelation that the government lost 600,000 people's details when a Ministry of Defence laptop was stolen.

It is believed the Treasury will welcome the opportunity to drop the scheme, as some estimates have put the cost at up to £20 billion.

Conservatives seized on the leaked documents as evidence Mr Brown's policy is collapsing.

David Davis, the shadow home secretary said: "I should think this scheme is in the intensive care ward.

"There are clear faults in the whole government strategy as demonstrated from disc-gate to Birmingham-gate or whatever you want to call it.

"There is a clear fracture in public confidence. When we started there were 80 per cent for it. Now I suspect 80 per cent oppose it.

"It all amounts to giving the government an insoluble problem.

"It is a political nightmare for them which why there have been serial delays."

The Treasury has also kicked into the long grass publication of a separate business-led review into identity cards.

The Scotsman made repeated inquiries of the department last year, to find out when the verdict of the Public-Private Forum on Identity Management would be released.

The review is led by Sir James Crosby, and was due to report at Easter 2007. But according to parliamentary answers from Andy Burnham, the Chief Secretary to the Treasury, "no date has been fixed for publication".

ID cards for foreign workers living in the UK will be issued from this year.

A Home Office spokeswoman said: "We do not comment on leaked documents."

The Scottish Government has said that it will not insist on making access to public services contingent on producing an identity card.



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  • Last Updated: 22 January 2008 9:33 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Identity cards
 
1

An Beal Bacht,

23/01/2008 01:50:35
ID Cards for foreigners - Aye!
ID Cards for Scots - Naw!
ID Cards for Politicians - Definately! Whit if they get loast an cannae find thur wey hame?
2

walter,

23/01/2008 01:52:06
I do not have a problem with ID cards, I do have a problem with the amount of information this government want to put on them.
With this governments record of keeping our personal information secure then I suspect that most people that supported them are having second thoughts.
3

MacAlba: The Coming Independence (c2007).,

23/01/2008 02:29:08
As if our fundamental civil and political rights haven't been violated enough throughout the preceding three centuries by the Westminster government, now we are to be issued with identification cards that will feature most of our intimate details.

Where is the dignity?

Will Westminster, in timely and due course decide to amend the legislation allowing police officers to demand the presentation of identification cards at will - (with or without legitimate cause for doing so)?
4

An Beal Bacht,

23/01/2008 03:53:43
3 - MacAlba: asks:

"Will Westminster, in timely and due course decide to amend the legislation allowing police officers to demand the presentation of identification cards at will - (with or without legitimate cause for doing so)?"

You betcha.
5

Pete40,

Tassy 23/01/2008 05:34:54
Well if they combined it into an ID card, a Health Card, Welfare payments card and offered Frequent Flyer points, they would be getting complaints from the guys who hadn't got their cards quick enough.
6

Pilrig.,

Livingston 23/01/2008 06:24:32
Taxpayers' money doon the drain to keep an army of control freaks and office wallahs in jobs. And of course the likes of David Blunkett have a financial interest in id cards.
7

Pilrig.,

Livingston 23/01/2008 06:24:33
Taxpayers' money doon the drain to keep an army of control freaks and office wallahs in jobs. And of course the likes of David Blunkett have a financial interest in id cards.
8

yockel,

23/01/2008 06:55:17
#3 & #4 No need to admend the law to allow PCs to demand ID cards. They will just do so unlawfully under implied threat of a charge with some other offence as they do to get there own way in pretty well every other situation. Anyone been daft enough to refuse an unlawful breath test recently?
9

hertscot,

23/01/2008 08:26:38
FREEDOM!!, but only for another couple of years.
10

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 23/01/2008 09:31:06
Hopefully the idiots will be out of power before they can impliment this crazy scheme.

I will not be having one anyway.
11

Cauchy Riemann,

Wales 23/01/2008 10:14:09
I expect Labour are banking on people forgetting just how incompetent they have been after a couple of years.

Well
1) People aren't going to forget such crass incompetence so early
2) If Labour are in power we are going to have weekly reminders of their incompetence.

So I can't see ID cards coming in. Of course Labour might simply wait for a terrorist attack and then use this as an excuse, but I'm not sure the majority would be fooled by that anymore.
12

The Federalist (the poster formerly know as NAUON),

23/01/2008 10:24:21
I suspect the delay will be indefinite as more and more Labour MPs see how pointless they are.
13

Doh,

23/01/2008 10:43:41

Luckly terrorists would never think of using a forged ID card.

Mind you the Madrid bombers dint bother with forged ID cards they just used their own legitimate ID cards.


Maybe they should ask you when you apply for an ID card if you are terrorist or expect to become a terrorist at some time in the future.

New labour new nonsense.
14

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23/01/2008 11:23:56
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Charles Crosby,

UK 23/01/2008 11:45:27
# 2 Oh, "I do not have a problem with ID cards" says Walter!

There are sheeple and naive gullible people in Britain today who do not deserve the freedom(s) they have and if it weren't for the fact that I will suffer with all the loss of freedoms that will come with ID cards, I couldn't wish them on a better example than Walter!

All it takes for evil to be successful is, for people who should know better, to sit there and welcome it like frogs in water on the boil.
16

Guthrie,

Edinburgh 23/01/2008 12:07:06
Hang on, when did they vote to bring in ID cards in the first place? I don't recall seeing anything about it.

Anyway, for those who don't know, the issues with ID cards are down to the whole idea. Databases on the proposed scale will be vulnerable to error, hacking, and the proposed biometrics are not infallible enough. As well as the point that it allows the gvt to know all sorts more things about you.
17

morris,

edinburgh 23/01/2008 13:28:19
13

We certainly agree on that one!

If its possible to create an identity card,then its possible to create a forgery.The identity card then does the opposite of what it was intended to do and legitimises the terrorist,or as you say ,he could carry a bone fide card.Unless you can tell the bona fide card from the forgery then the whole exercise is pointless,unless of course they want them for something completely different, like totalitarian state control stage 1.

Of course Gordon Broon will be out long before then anyway. I would expect the incoming government to ditch this stupidity permanently.(Labour have no chance of being elected,even the village idiots are seriously thinking about changing their vote)!
18

morris,

edinburgh 23/01/2008 13:35:17
11 Or stage a terrorist attack. Maybe a London bus will crash into Big Ben and the whole country will be put on RED ALERT. The terrorists will be captured all wearing badges which say I am an Al Quaeda terrorist (but Im also a member of the SNP).Alex Salmond is Bin Ladens pal apparently .We have seen conclusive evidence of weapons of mass destruction buried under Arthurs Seat and we are sure the SNP put them there.

Yes that should do it.
19

morris,

edinburgh 23/01/2008 13:43:00
18 continued


Or it could involve Plaid Cymru Leader Ieuan Wyn Jones of course.


or both !
20

Charles Crosby,

UK 23/01/2008 13:46:43
We must also understand that is not a 'blow' but rather just a postponement. At the moment we can fight against ID cards but after 2010 we will have lost all our freedoms under the EU constitution now renamed The Reform Treaty.

Westminster will be closed down and all laws will come from Brussels and we will not be allowed to speak against those laws.

Clause 3a-3 of the Reform Treaty: Compels former nations to obey the EU. They shall carry out the EU's tasks, and may not oppose it.

You need to understand that you will be governed by a Soviet Communist/Fascist system. National Socialism or International Socialism - it's all the same thing.
21

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 23/01/2008 16:33:38
#11:

"Labour might simply wait for a terrorist attack and then use this as an excuse"

Why wait? they can create one themselves---as they have already done twice with London and once with Glasgow Airport.

Whatever your view of the Tories, you can't help noticing that they NEVER killed any of the population in Britain in pursuit of their own popularity or to further their policies.
22

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 23/01/2008 20:44:37
ID cards = dead in the water
23

clarry,

aberdeen 23/01/2008 20:45:08
21 Alternative (lets get high) Fuel Head


The Tories support ID cards.

What about the First World War?

ID cards stick them up their a'rse
24

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 23/01/2008 22:10:15
#23:

Not as far as I have heard.

The First World War?

How would you have played that one? From what I understand there was a stalemate for years and both sides were simply throwing soldiers at it. It wasn't until we got the tank that things started to move in our favour.

Maybe I should have been more precise. No British Government has ever before created terrorist incidents which killed people and then passed them off as real ones. What happened in the 1970s with the IRA was down to the IRA and not the government.

What has happened in this country since the WTC episode was down to the government.
25

Biker,

Ayr 24/01/2008 16:40:34
What about the Falklands debacle? Pure electioneering at its best.

 

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