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MPs to keep profits from second homes



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Published Date:
25 June 2008
A REVIEW of Westminster expenses led by Commons Speaker Michael Martin today said MPs should be allowed to keep profits from selling on properties funded by the taxpayer.
The recommendation comes just weeks after the Scottish Parliament voted to scrap a similar system at Holyrood.

But the Westminster review also recommended MPs should be banned from using public money to buy furniture and renovate their homes.

T
hat would effectively abolish the so-called "John Lewis list", which provided a guide to how much MPs could claim for household items – for example, £350 for a washing machine or £10,000 for a new kitchen.

However, the report said MPs should still be able to claim up to £19,600 tax-free every year to cover the cost of running a second home. And it proposed they should also be entitled to £30 a day for subsistence – without receipts – up to a maximum of £4200 every year.

The review by the Commons Members Estimates Committee was set up in a bid to restore public trust in MPs' expenses after a string of scandals.

Despite looking at the Scottish Parliament's decision to abolish the system which allowed MSPs to claim public money for mortgage interest payments and keep any profit when the property was sold, the Westminster committee decided against a similar move.

The report argued: "Property values can go down as well as up, and some MPs who left Parliament at the 1992 general election – after a property crash – faced losses.

"The property market is currently looking rocky once again, so the same could happen. An MP who chooses to buy not rent is taking a risk."

The report rejected other options for replacing the Additional Costs Allowance under which MPs can currently claim up to £24,006 towards running their second homes.

It branded the idea of buying or building parliamentary flats in central London as "neither feasible nor affordable" in "one of the most densely populated, expensive and mature property markets in the world".

Scrapping the allowance altogether and boosting salaries from around £61,000 to more than £102,000 had attracted "both strong support and firm opposition". But the plan would be extremely complex, requiring major adjustments to pensions and income tax arrangements, according to the committee.

The report said new MPs setting up home in London would need to use their allowance to furnish and equip it. But it added: "It is hard to see any justification for such purchases continuing indefinitely at the public's expense. As for repairs to the home, where needed, we believe that these should be claimable but not capital improvements."

The committee also called for better auditing procedures.

At least one in five MPs would face "spot checks" on their claims and, except for the subsistence allowance, all claims "however small" would require receipts from 2009/10.

The committee said: "Our overriding conclusion is that we must introduce a robust system of scrutiny for parliamentary allowances as a matter of urgency in order to build public confidence."

The Commons is due to vote on the recommendations on July 3 – the same day as they decide their pay rises.




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  • Last Updated: 25 June 2008 1:26 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Politicians' expenses
 
1

Epicuras,

25/06/2008 13:30:07
snouts still in the trough whichever way they dress it up
2

HeartsNo1,

mid calder 25/06/2008 13:58:06
Why isnt a Independent body set up to determine whats appropiate for MP's to earn/declare ?

If memory serves me correctly Michael Martin was one of the worst along with his wife to abuse the system for personal gain , isnt it ironic that he chaired the committee set up to look into issue ?
3

Bishop Boyne,

Loanhead 25/06/2008 14:00:27
Explanantion how MP's can loose money when they are not paying anything the first place, do we mean they are possibly loosing out on a windfall if prices crash, when they sell then on!
4

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

25/06/2008 14:10:26
Hard to believe that we elected Labour to get rid of sleaze. They've effectively professionalised it.

Oh for the good old days of Jeffrey Archer and a brown paper bag.
5

Scotish Exile,

25/06/2008 14:52:41
I can understand MP's in London getting this "perk" but what I can't accept is:

why they should keep any profit, and
why MSP's should have this perk at all.

Politicians are greedy, corrupt b8st8rds
6

Schot,

25/06/2008 14:53:42
"Property values can go down as well as up, and some MPs who left Parliament at the 1992 general election – after a property crash – faced losses."

Everyone faced property losses in 1992. Only a few hundred of us were responsible for that.
7

Anecdotal,

Edinburgh 25/06/2008 15:00:29
Its not their loss its the taxpayer's loss! The turkeys don't vote for Christmas so why should our elected representatives vote for anything but the continuation of teh gravy train. Enough is enough lets keep this high profile until they are shamed into doing the honourable thing.
8

Alasdair10,

Glasgow 25/06/2008 15:05:11
We pay, they profit.

Democracy in action.

makes you proud.
9

Caratacus,

West Britain 25/06/2008 15:08:12
Was anybody surprised by this?
10

steve 1511,

aberdeen 25/06/2008 15:09:51
wee wendy is guilty of taking bungs in brown envelopes,but taking the profits from taxpayers money is not,only a politician could make up this rule,never mind we shall lose a lot of them at the next election from westminster, that is how a bannana republic operates, bribes for votes bungs for votes honours for bungs just like bobby mugabe operates, what next food for votes
11

Who Am I To Say,

LASSWADE 25/06/2008 16:05:21
WE NEED A REVOLUTION IN THIS COUNTRY!!!
12

B S,

25/06/2008 16:33:43
All aboard the gravy train yet again.

They get the wealth, we take the pain.

13

gus1940,

Edinburgh 25/06/2008 16:46:45
It's time this scandalous misappropriation of taxpayers' money was nipped in the bud.

Strict rules must be drawn up on what sort of thing can be claimed as expenses and every penny of every claim backed up by receipt prior to authorisation or rejection for payment.

Such a system need not cost much to run - 2 or 3 people should be able to handle all claims from 650 odd people - don't forget that there is obviously a department handlingthe existing system.

There is no need for daily flat rates - every penny over and above their basic salary must be properly accounted for and undergo strict scrutiny prior to authorisation.
14

jdships,

25/06/2008 19:43:23
13 gus1940,Edinburgh

Thankyou for an excellent post.
Only problem is it smacks of common sense and that is something that New Labour doesn't have.

Pity - good try !!!
15

McMadman,

http://scottishreferendum2008.blogspot.com 25/06/2008 19:49:26
Why don't we tax the profits with a windfall tax, as newliebour did on gaining power at westmonster ?
16

The Geniune Mario Antionette,

25/06/2008 21:48:34
Whats good for the goose
17

jimb4abobor2,

Edinburgh 25/06/2008 23:13:49
It will always be the same in this country? 1 law for the rich and 1 for the poor. They talk about fraudsters and tax and benefit cheats well they are just as bad if not worse after all they earn about a £100,grand a year what more do they want for messing up the Education,NHS,Law,Schools,housing,Energy,Fuel and need i go on i think not greedy b---------. There is a simple way get an independant induvidual to do there affairs whom can be monitored by an inspector who will check the books without appointment. then buy up a rundown hotel in london or the suburbs 1200 bedroom or so and maintain it with all recipts to be put on display online or the local tabloid and make them pay for a room in the hotel from there already high income when they are in London and put the money back into the rundown housing development fund and that way they are paying back something too the community not ripping it off.
18

scottishcoffindodgerno1,

Tram City 26/06/2008 08:21:05
How can they lose whatever the state of the housing market.As they do not pay for the houses in the first place,it is all profit.The houses should be handed over to the government,who then let them to the next MP who takes over their seat,or is that to simple for them to work
19

Foo,

ejinbara 26/06/2008 12:21:21
#18 Good point.

And '£30 a day for subsistence – without receipts'. No wonder they are all fat lardasses. People at the lower end of society scrape by on £30 week. And there's these fat scum bags cramming £30 a days worth of food in their mouths. Disgusting.
20

Joe Macdelta.,

30/06/2008 18:28:26
Why am I not surprised, and its cross party, not an honest one among them, all in it for the perks.
21

Joe Macdelta.,

30/06/2008 18:33:28
They keep talking about getting tough on crime, this is the biggest instance of organised crime, they need locking up the lot of them.

 

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