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Published Date: 17 October 2008
It may have been a good soundbite, but the 'arc of prosperity' has blown up in Alex Salmond's face, writes
TIMES like these remind us of the fundamental case for the Union. Strong cultural, familial and institutional bonds tie us together. But they do so on top of the proposition that completely underpins the Union – that we are stronger together, weaker
apart. The economic buffeting of the smaller countries surrounding Scotland has surely driven that point home once and for all.

For the past two years, Alex Salmond has unstintingly claimed that an independent Scotland would join a battling brotherhood of similar small and prosperous nations. To support his assertion, he has wilfully distorted statistics and ignored the very different economic histories and structures of the nations he brigades together.

But he was successful in establishing his catchphrase – "the arc of prosperity" – in the political discourse of Scotland. He must now be rueing the day his spin-doctors coined this phrase, because, having sought to surf the upturn in these economies, he is now condemned to suffer their downturn.

The facts are worth rehearsing. Iceland is effectively bankrupt. A small country with very real strengths in energy, fishing and tourism exposed itself horrendously to the global financial system. It now is turning to the IMF for assistance and – humiliatingly for a Nato member – is being offered financial support by the Russian Federation.

It's all very well for Alex Salmond to splutter now that you can't compare Iceland to Scotland. But we didn't hear any such caveats last year when he made Iceland the poster boy for the arc of prosperity.

There are some real issues that point up challenges for the SNP's separatist agenda. Iceland was outside the euro – and the protection of the European Central Bank – as Alex Salmond intends an independent Scotland to be.

Now I know the SNP says it will keep the pound, and therefore have the Bank of England as their central bank. But the only other country I can think of that has another sovereign nation's currency as its official currency is Ecuador, which uses the US dollar. Arc of dependency, anyone?

Let's turn to Ireland, whose economic record was manfully defended in The Scotsman on Tuesday by Marc Coleman, a former economist with the European Central Bank and the Irish department of finance.

I recognise the success of the Irish economy in recent years. The country has transformed in recent decades – a tribute to the impact of membership of the European Union and to the political leadership of Ireland. But if we are to make comparisons between the two countries, they should be honest ones.

Scotland was the second country in the world to industrialise. We now have a successful, diversified, post-industrial economy after 200 years of being an industrial economy completely integrated into the first industrial nation in the world. Ireland has had substantial growth in recent years, but it was from a far lower and more agrarian base.

Despite substantial growth, investment in public services remains lower than in Scotland. And this week's emergency budget saw the real costs to Irish families of Ireland's economic difficulties. Increased taxes. Means testing. Child benefit and child allowance cuts. What a contrast with Scotland, where Alex Salmond has a budget of £30 billion – twice what Donald Dewar had in 1999 – and got an extra £1 billion from Treasury, too, and where one of the main levers for injecting demand into the Scottish economy – capital spending – is under the control of the Scottish Government.

It is only political ideology that stops Alex Salmond using PFI schemes to build the schools, hospitals and prisons that our communities need – and that the construction industry and CBI Scotland are crying out for. I'm happy for the minority SNP administration to call itself a government – if only it would get on with governing. As Bill Clinton once said, "to govern is to choose", not to posture.

Marc Coleman quite rightly says that Ireland is able to make its own decisions, to take responsibility for its own economy. Scotland can do that, too – it just doesn't need to leave the UK to stand strong. It is an irony of history that an international financial disaster – Darien – impelled Scotland into a Union with England. That Union has been the most successful single market in history. In the face of a global financial challenge, the past few days have shown the enduring strength of the Union. An independent Scotland could not possibly have rescued Royal Bank of Scotland and HBOS. The recapitalisation of £37 billion alone is larger than the Scottish Government's annual budget.

Doug McWilliams, of the Centre for Economics and Research, estimates that the total support for the two Scottish banks – including the underpinning of bank interlending – is, at about £100 billion, equivalent to the Scottish annual GDP.

Jim Murphy, the Secretary of State for Scotland, was right to point out that commentators are saying that the "arc of prosperity" now looks like an "arc of insolvency". Alex Salmond may be uncomfortable with that, but those who live by the soundbite have to endure the consequences, too.

Our banks have been rescued – and that is a good thing. They are important pillars of the Scottish and UK economy. But the case for independence is in tatters – and that is also a good thing.

• Anne McGuire is the Labour MP for Stirling.





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  • Last Updated: 16 October 2008 9:08 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
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17/10/2008 01:03:41
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Mandy Jones,

17/10/2008 02:13:09
I think Iceland's problems were caused more by stupid banks and lame regulations then anything else.

Most observers would agree that the smaller nations tend to avoid recessions better.
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Mandy Jones,

17/10/2008 02:15:44
p.s. as for the banks having been 'rescued' - Brown's borrowed untold billions (which we'll all have to pay back with interest) to cover the hole he created when he loosened bank regulations then stood back.
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Conway,

17/10/2008 06:39:59
Another Labour MP glad to see Scottish banks humiliated and Scots loosing there jobs ,just so Gordon Brown can appear good.How daft do you think the public are ? It was Gordon Browns lack of regulation of the banks that has got us into this mess, Iceland overstretched itself ,Ireland acted quickly and protected its banks and customers money .However you left out Norway in your article ,yes Norway is feeling the pinch to however due to Norway having control over its natural resorses they have saved money to weather this financial storm. What the media isnt mentioning is that Gordon Brown has copied the Swedish /Norwegian model for bailing out the banks.
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izzie,

dundee 17/10/2008 06:48:14
'she would say that wouldn't she?'
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Nevsky,

Moscow 17/10/2008 07:00:28
4 Conway#

Of course she left Norway out of her article as they make Scotland look like a third-world nation in many respects and are the closest comparison regarding Scottish independence.

Being of Irish extraction it's no wonder the 'wee Annie' supports and heaps praise on the Irish but strange how she is not pro-Scottish as well.

Norway was one of the poorest countries in Europe and is now one of the richest; Scotland by contrast has some of the highest levels of poverty in the western world and we started from a higher base of infrastructure.

Scotland has gone backwards while the poorest country in Europe has become the richest? Get it yet wee Annie?

Ireland went through decades of poor growth but no longer and is now better placed than the UK. Perhaps Annie could ask them if they would ever want to be part of the UK again? She knows the answer.

To state that Scotland would not have made it because we were an industrial nation is a really lame argument and just to point that out the Norwegians build ships and have full order books, have a massive merchant fleet that controls the north sea.

Scotland builds nothing and whle Scotland has been in decline Norway has invested in heav industry, the price of the union was unemployment and generations of poverty the price of Norwegian indeendence was investment in industry, nearly full employment and a balance of an oil fund of £200 billion; Scotland has £0.

Stick your union and your brainless rhetoric!
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donald,

glasgow 17/10/2008 07:05:15
Another Northbritish headline to diminish its readership.
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person who's right,

Edinburgh 17/10/2008 09:48:32
How ironic that Anne McGuire chooses to ask us to look at the 'facts', before distorting two in one sentence..!

She says: The recapitalisation of £37 billion alone is larger than the Scottish Government's annual budget.

Let's unpick this. The sum of £37 billion bailed out 3 banks, one Scottish (RBS), one English (Lloyds), and one that straddled the border with headquarters in Edinburgh and Yorkshire (HBOS). But even if you call HBOS entirely Scottish, then the sum used to bail out RBS and HBOS was £25bn, not £37bn. (And, most importantly, her premise assumes that any independent Scottish government would have matched Gordon Brown's incompetence in terms of regulating our banks - a big leap of logic).

And the figure she uses for the Scottish Government's budget is just the DEVOLVED government's budget. The TOTAL government budget in Scotland (ie that which would have been available to an independent Scottish government) dwarfs that figure.

Some facts please, Ms McGuire..!

Oh, and are you going to support the preservation of HBOS as an independent institution (now that the FSA has made clear that this is entirely feasible? Or are you instead going to support the preservation of your own job by pushing for it to be swallowed up by Lloyds in your manic antipathy towards any cause of the SNP?

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Tom R,

17/10/2008 09:52:18
Anne McGuire says of Salmond "But he was successful in establishing his catchphrase – "the arc of prosperity" – in the political discourse of Scotland. He must now be rueing the day his spin-doctors coined this phrase, because, having sought to surf the upturn in these economies, he is now condemned to suffer their downturn."

This is as nothing compared with the nonsense of Brown's claim that he had abolished the economic cycle of boom and bust. It is that foolish and catastrophic misjudgement about his own economy (not about someone else's) that will deservedly destroy Labour at the next general election.
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Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 17/10/2008 10:04:45
Dear Anne,

You seem to have entirely overlooked Norway. Have a word with the Scotsman subs, they must have cut that bit from your piece.

Love,
Concerned reader, UK.
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JoeMiddleton,

Edinburgh 17/10/2008 13:02:11
Does Labour really believe they can constantly insult Scotland along with all our near neighbours and this will somehow translate into support for the British union?

Sorry, but independence is normality and no-one in any other country is looking to be ruled by Britain. This MP Should apologise to Norway, Ireland and yes Iceland for her remarks. Part of Iceland's recent economic problems were actually caused by the British Government!

British rule is not necessary for Scotland and it's gradually becoming clearer that it's not wanted. Personally I can't stand Britain's international xenophobia and it's contempt for other countries and I look forward to the day Scotland's flag flys at the United Nations alone without being submerged in the Union Jack.

Given the embarassing failure of British diplomacy and their frankly quite disgusting remarks about our near neighbours (who because of their past vast economic growth are in a brilliant position to beat the credit crunch) there can be no question that Scotland should represent our own opinions internationally.

This woman doesn't speak for us and she hopefully won't be an MP for much longer.
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Iago,

Aberystwyth 17/10/2008 14:29:14
Ah! Will they not stop? The unionists believe they can scaremonger us Celtic countries into thinking that we can't survive on our own. Doesn't that sound great? We can't look after ourselves, we need English money. Unionists say England subsidises us, yet they want us part of the union. If there was somebody stealing money out of my wallet I'd quickly send them on their way.
Norway is stable at the moment, much more stable than the "coughs" 'UK'; Ireland did go into recession as did the 'UK', but who is going to come out better, they have less of a population and Iceland becoming bankrupt, let's not forget, as Salmond states, where this whole global crisis started, in the US. It affected not just Iceland, but nearly every economy in the world. Also what's to say that RBS and HBOS would of got themselves in such a mess if Scotland were independent? They state we're stronger together, but it is the unionists' economics that almost bankrupted these banks and they're the ones who are pulling us into recession, not Salmond's Scottish government but Brown's 'British' government.
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Mr. Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 17/10/2008 19:45:31
This is wishful thinking on the part of Old Labour worthy Anne McGuire!

Once the current worldwide recession has run its course it will be interesting to see which nations come out of it with stronger economies?

I'll bet a pound to a euro that Iceland, Ireland and Norway, along with a host of other small nations, cope much better than large developed economies like the US and UK!
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PMK,

21/10/2008 19:45:00
Please people, hold the unionist propaganda: there simply is no basis for this claim.
This crisis is actually a huge reason to leave the Union as it proves the Union only deepens Scotland's financial downturns, as opposed to protecting us in some 'loving embrace'.

As for comparisons to Iceland, Iceland is only 6% the population of Scotland (c300,000/c5,200,000). That is like comparing Germany 70 million plus to Ireland (c4.3 million - or 6.1%). This is lazy journalism based on nothing but personal prejudice.

 

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