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Published Date: 24 February 2009
IT appears the builders of Edinburgh's tramline are playing chicken with the authorities to get more money. We were given many specific promises that there need be no further increase.
In which case, if the civil servants in charge have acted honestly, they could not have instructed non-contracted extra work as the consortium claims. Have they acted honestly?

However, the proper procedure for the contractors would be to carry o
ut the contract as stipulated and sue, or go to arbitration, over any extras so as not to break the contract by going on strike.

In any case they would do well to remember that the tram project was not put forward by the government but forced through Holyrood by an alliance of the other parties – a cynical playing to vested interests which they may not now be willing to repeat.

The contractors could easily find the contract voided because of their breach and thus them liable to repay all costs incurred.

There has been little discussion of the fantastic level of these costs. Melbourne built the Box Hill extension, 2.2km, opened in 2003, for £12.5 million; and the Vermont South Extension of 3km in 2005 for £13.5m. On that basis the Edinburgh tramway, at 18.5km, should be costing about £105m pounds or indeed quite a lot less because of economies of scale. British public works have a long record of being grossly overpriced. Those in charge refuse to provide any explanation of this and they should.
Neil Craig, Woodlands Road, Glasgow

Put trams project to the ballot box
AS a consequence of the potential extended dispute between TIE and their contractors, there is a possibility that the Princes Street track section will not be laid until September with the estimated total cost of the project increasing again.

For small and large businesses alike there is the usual lack of clear information.

Many of these businesses do not share the same enthusiasm for the project as Edinburgh City Council and TIE. My colleagues and I are campaigning for the re-opening of suburban railway lines for short and longer distance journeys.

Trains do not interfere with bus and general road traffic. This cannot be said of trams.

I think the council should consider a referendum on the whole question of trams in Edinburgh.

They should also consider developing the South Suburban railway line including Abbeyhill Loop.

I hope the councillors will listen to the people of Edinburgh.
Harold A Nicolson, Edinburgh Railway Action Group, Tollcross, Edinburgh

Finance workers can take their pick
THE disagreement between TIE, the Edinburgh tram company, and its erstwhile contractors could offer a major new opportunity for employment in Scotland.

With the increasing number of unemployed, many from our rapidly contracting financial sector, what better time to return to traditional pick and shovel methods for building the tramway?

On minimum wage (or, cheaper still, on Job Creation Schemes paying the same as the dole) a new generation of navvies should easily be able to complete the undertaking within a reasonable period.

And, by removing the need for environmentally polluting earth moving machinery, it would make the whole project even more green!
John Eoin Douglas, Spey Terrace, Edinburgh

Fear of thundering double-deckers
I WORK in an office in George Street and the traffic, and most especially the buses, are in no way obeying the 20mph speed limit which is clearly painted on the road. To have double-deckers buses thundering along is very dangerous particularly when there are so many pedestrians on George Street.

Also, while we now have pedestrian crossings all over the place to help us cross the roads, not one of them 'beeps' so how are partially sighted and blind people to know when to cross now much busier roads.

This needs to be addressed as a matter of urgency.
Rona Gloag, Tranent

Please tell us all about the terrace
HAYMARKET Terrace is a major road artery and was due to be reopened in mid-January, it was then delayed till mid-February and now the notices say mid-March. I ask which year?
Colin C Maclean, Hillpark Avenue, Edinburgh

PC brigade have got it wrong on Jolson
I AM writing with regard to Allan Stewart's forthcoming performance as Al Jolson.

As usual the PC brigade have got it totally wrong.

Al Jolson, who came from a strong Jewish musical background, felt nothing but awe for the coloured American singers he tried to emulate.

With regard to blacking-up make-up, at that time our coloured brothers and sisters had no equal rights and Jolson helped to bring their case forward in leaps and bounds by bringing their style of music to the masses.

Surely by not wearing make-up, apart from being historically incorrect, the ones who do not want the truth are guilty of pushing fair-minded people's boundaries back instead of forward.
Mr Ronald Lister, Seafield Crescent, Belhaven, Dunbar





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  • Last Updated: 24 February 2009 9:15 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
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The Ayrshire Bard,

24/02/2009 11:09:57
Mr Lister is right in his comments. Al Jolson blacked up as a mark of respect to the coloured musicians and singers of that era. Coloured musicians were the opposite of being denigrated. Louis Armstrong, Ella Fitzgerald, Sarah Vaughan and many, many others became internationally renowned and respected. Their talent is unsurpassed and today's singers and instrumentalists should sit down and listen to their records. They might learn a lot.
2

Grumpy,

24/02/2009 12:09:48
Don't ghe citizens of Edinburgh realise that the roadworks and delays is a deliberate act by the council so that, when the trams eventually arrive, we'll be so happy that we can move about Edinburgh that we'll ignore the huge delays, the exorbitant costs, the lack of tram passengers, and a badly depleted bus service.

Trouble is, by then all the shops in Princes St will have closed due to lack of shoppers being able to get there.

Livingston, depsite your proposal to charge for parking, here we come.
3

Jasbar,

24/02/2009 12:54:04
I still wouldn't pay to park in Livingston, as a mark of protest.

We should remember that the high cost of the tramline is substantially because of all the preparatory shifting of utilities so that trams can operate without fear of closedown.

Notwithstanding the cost, there is a considerable benefit in renewing these utilities and, as the cost would have been incurred in any case, they should be deducted form the total price quoted. Of course, the utility companies themselves should be paying these costs in any case.

Finally, forget any prospect of a vote on trams. The council knows we would reject them out of hand. The council only conducts consultations they know they can win. They learned that "lesson" after the congestion charging referendum.
4

TankEngine,

Uphall 24/02/2009 12:56:33
#3 And when the utility companies come to fix the newly moved network, where does the diverted traffic go? Tramlines are fixed, buses aren't!
5

Billy Bob Jnr,

24/02/2009 13:46:50
#4
That's the whole point. The utilities were moved so that any future work on them will not impact the tram.
6

TankEngine,

Uphall 24/02/2009 14:15:16
#5. I think I know that. But where does the traffic go when a lane is closed to fix, sorry atempt to fix, a utility. They will have to close a lane that buses, cars and taxis use. Where do they go. Can they use the tram lane? That's my point.
7

NorT,

Edinburgh 24/02/2009 14:27:20
Ms Gloag the speed limit in George Street is 30mph the same as any built up area. The 20mph is only advisory and nobody can be booked for exceeding it.
8

Dragonlord,

24/02/2009 14:32:47
6# This and many other points have been swept under the carpet by Tie and the council. They still have not come up with a proper fix for when a tranm breaks down. The whole line will close simply because there is nowhere for them to go.
9

GraemeH,

Edinburgh 24/02/2009 14:36:32
#3 Unfortunately the utility improvement is actually a relatively modest benefit as many of the pipes, services, etc are only a a small way through their full design life. Some will be only a few years old but can have a design life of >50 years. In addition it costs massively more to move a pipe than it does to replace it in situ.

Consequently, it would be unfair to ask utility companies (in practice their customers) to pay to replace the many pipes and services that don't need replacing and to move them when they don't need moved.
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cynicalm,

Edinburgh 24/02/2009 17:53:07
#3 and #9 Very few of the services in these areas are likely to be in the early part of their lives. The only benefits of this shambles is that the utilities will now know where the pipes/ducts are and that they are unlikely to need to be repaired for some time.

 

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