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Published Date: 28 February 2008
CURIOUSLY, the decision of Kosovo to declare independence from Serbia has come and gone without sparking much of a debate in Scotland regarding the implications for our own constitutional future. So it may as come as a surprise to find that readers of newspapers from the Times of India to the Charlestown Daily Mail in South Carolina have been reading articles on how Kosovo might impact on the prospects for Scottish independence.
The reason is straightforward: while Britain, the United States, France and Germany have recognised Kosovo as a sovereign state, the rest of the EU has split on the matter. Spain, Cyprus, Slovakia and Romania are refusing to recognise Kosovan indepen
dence lest it encourage ethnic separatism in their own backyards.

Cyprus is determined to avoid a precedent that might confer legitimacy on the Turkish enclave in the north of that island and called Kosovo's move "a violation of the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Serbia". More significant was the decision of Spain to withhold recognition lest it encourage Basque separatism at a time when ETA, the Basque version of the IRA, has abandoned its ceasefire.

The "so what?" here is obvious: would these EU members be equally intransigent when it came to recognising an independent Scotland, and would they go so far as to try to veto continued Scottish membership of the European Union itself? Given what has happened over Kosovo, I don't think we can blindly dismiss the theoretical possibility.

But equally, there is a major difference between the position of Kosovo and that of the UK, which is an existing member of the EU. If England and Scotland decided to dissolve their union (or if Belgium did the same), by what mechanism would any of the successor states be expelled from EU membership?

It will be pointed out that the normal convention in such situations is for the larger entity to be recognised as the "successor state" which retains the treaty obligations of the previous state irrespective of the fact its boundaries have changed. Thus Pakistan retained its membership of the UN after Bangladesh seceded in 1971, while the latter had to wait three years before joining.

However, things are not this straightforward. In the Pakistan case (and similar situations), the legal personality of Pakistan was not extinguished. The dissolution of the 1707 Treaty of Union, on the other hand, might be interpreted as the end of the legal personality of the UK, with no successor state having an automatic right to membership of the EU or UN. This outcome could be fun, as I think the English would whoop for joy and refuse to have their EU membership back.

Another intriguing legal precedent is the case of the break-up of the United Arab Republic in 1961. Egypt demanded recognition as the successor state. But Syria, which had seceded from the UAR, simply took up its UN membership where it had left off after the earlier merger with Cairo – with no-one batting an eyelid. In this case, it was deemed that Syria's legal personality had merely been in abeyance between 1958 and 1961. Scotland was surely a legal entity before 1707 and so could not be deemed a "new" state after independence – more grounds here to keep the European Court of Justice at work for years.

Talking of the court, which deals with constitutional wrangles inside the EU, the new Lisbon Reform Treaty is very specific that I am a citizen of Europe with guaranteed rights. If any institution of the EU (eg, the Commission) tries arbitrarily to end my citizenship without my consent – say, by excluding Scotland from the EU – I assure you the matter will be referred to the Court of Justice.

If circumstances dictate, I also plan to use the new procedure under the Lisbon Treaty to raise the signatures needed for a "citizens' initiative" to force the Commission to reconsider any attempt to throw Scotland out of the EU. I wonder if the Spanish would be willing to block ongoing Scottish membership if lots of those signatures were going to be raised in the Basque Country or Catalonia.

Then there is the new Article 49 of the Reform treaty, which covers the process for countries leaving (or rejoining) the EU. Article 49 is explicit that an existing member state cannot exit the EU for at least two years, or until the member states have drawn up a protocol on future relationships. There is a very good case under Article 49 for saying that even if Spain, Cyprus and other members were trying to have Scotland thrown out (as a warning to their own minorities) they could not do it for at least two years, or until they had unanimous agreement to do so.

The point about all this arcane international law is that Scotland's situation is very different from that of Kosovo. If Britain ever does dissolve into its constituent nation states it will be a friendly rearrangement remote from the poisonous ethnic intrigues of the Balkans.

Indeed, there is a decent case to be made for showing the Balkans (or Spain) how civilised constitutional reform can take place without bloodshed.

That is best done within the co-operative framework of the EU, whose greatest achievement has been to end the historic enmity between France and Germany. Anyone using the threat of expelling Scotland from the EU – either as a means of choking the desire for self-determination elsewhere, or to frighten the Scots – is misunderstanding why we have the EU in the first place.





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  • Last Updated: 27 February 2008 9:07 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: George Kerevan
 
1

truthsleuth,

28/02/2008 01:58:37
The long term relationship between a independant Scotland and a England will depend very much upon the ethnic mix in Scotland/England.
ie Exactly as it does in Kosovo
Make no doubt about it whereas most Moslems maybe 'OK' there is a significant controlling majority who will take these islands back to the religious wars of the middle ages or even those troubled times in Northern Ireland.
Religion in whatever its form is yet another clique whose leaders want 'their way' and some of whom will do anything to get it.
2

Sierra Foothills Scot,

Diamond Springs 28/02/2008 05:35:49
George --

This article is a real masterpiece. A wonderful opportunity, when the time comes (and come it will, for a' that!), to tie both the UK government and the European Commission in Gordian (no pun intended) knots of their own making. Keep up the good work!
3

McNasty,

Edinburgh 28/02/2008 07:30:27
I like this George.

However, I would be content for Scotland to leave the EU and negotiate it's own terms to rejoin. If the EU would not agree to Scotland's terms on fishing for instance then we should stay out. Norway is doing very nicely on its own.
4

Princip,

Edinburgh 28/02/2008 09:12:22
"The point about all this arcane international law is that Scotland's situation is very different from that of Kosovo"

- actually the reality is that it is even more different then you suggest. Let us not forget that the 6 Former Yugoslav republics (equivalent to the home nations of the UK) split in the 90's. The illegal secession of Serbia's province of Kosovo & Metohija is tantemount to an illegal secession of say the Kingdom of Fife in an Independent Scotland on the grounds that an ethnic minority are a local majority!

Thus the irony is that while new labour (and old) have done their damndest to throw obstacles into Scotlands independece drive their current folly is to illegally recognise/create an EU Dependency (Protectorate) out of the UN recognised, Sovereign, European & Democratic Republic of Serbia!
5

Princip,

Edinburgh 28/02/2008 09:28:22
"CURIOUSLY, the decision of Kosovo to declare independence from Serbia has come and gone without sparking much of a debate in Scotland"

I think Orwell explained the reason for this curiosity quite well in his ironically censored preface to Animal Farm;

"The sinister fact about literary censorship in England is that it is largely voluntary. ... [Things are] kept right out of the British press, not because the Government intervened but because of a general tacit agreement that ‘it wouldn’t do’ to mention that particular fact."
http://web.archive.org/web/20050306021634/http://orwell.ru/library/novels/Animal_Farm/english/efp_go

I guess we can conclude that to discuss the contradiction & hypocrisy of illegal secession for Serbia's province on the grounds that an ethnic minority are a local majority while blocking the legitamate drive for independence for the nation of Scotland is not a 'curiosity' but it more of the case that ‘it wouldn’t do’!
6

Neil,

Glasgow 28/02/2008 11:06:06
Indeed. Firstly the fact that NATO have destroyed international law &, by breaking the occupation agreement & the Helsinki European Security Treaty, proven that no subsequent promise or treaty by these powers can ever be taken seriously.

Secondly the comparison is not with Scottish independence. The comparison is with the EU occuping Inverness & the North east coast, ethn icly cleansing everybody but the Polish immigrants & then having their "government" of the Polish Republic pf Invernessshire declaring independence & applying to join the EU. Legally, having established this precedent we could make no objection & considering how mush oil such a democratic republic could claim the idea must have attractions with those running the New World Order.
7

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 28/02/2008 12:01:36
#1 TruthSleuth Wrote.
"Make no doubt about it whereas most Moslems maybe 'OK' there is a significant controlling majority who will take these islands back to the religious wars of the middle ages or even those troubled times in Northern Ireland" I am trying to understand your point. Do you believe that the drive for Scottish Independance is going to take another 50 years at which time Moslems may very well be the majority in England. Or are you trying to assert the Archbishop of Canterbury is going to lead some sort of crusade against those heathen presbyterians north of the border. Or perhaps you are taking about the new religion of the post religious UK society, Football. Please Clarify
8

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 28/02/2008 13:09:43
The decision to recognize Kosovan independance by the UK goverment may come back to haunt them but it won't be from Scottish Indepedance.

The reason that so many countries within the EU have refused recognition of Kosovo is that it sets the precedent of allowing ethnic minorities within an existing state to carve out a state of their own. Cypress has refused, because of the breakaway Turkish republic in the northern half of their island. Romania and Slovakia have refused because of large ethnic Hungarian minorities. Spain has refused because of the Basque seperatists.

So how does this affect Scottish Independance. The short answer is it doesn't. Scotland existed for over 800 years as a seperate state with defined borders before it chose in 1707 to submerge itself into a superstate, the United Kingdom. The UK also chose this decision when it chose to submerge some of its sovereignty to the superstate of the EU. Any country in the EU that rejected Kosovan independance could recognize Scotlands independance with out setting a precedent that may affect them.

The danger for the UK lies in the fact that recognizing the Kosovans right to self determination and carving out a seperate state from an existing state, could in the future be used as precedent by minority groups who are territorial majorities such as Geordies in the North East or Cornish in the Southwest or even Moslems in Birmingham to want to carve out a state for themselves from an existing state.
9

Border Scot,

28/02/2008 13:27:46
#8 - Or Anglo-Saxons in the Borders!

None of this becomes an issue in any case unless an independent Scotland unilaterally declared independence - which it would not do, or have to do. A negotiated settlement leading to the break-up of the UK would, of course, be recognised by the international community
10

Joe M.,

Edinburgh 28/02/2008 15:11:35
A good article by George Kerevan.
11

I'mallymax,

28/02/2008 17:22:21
Independence for Scotland.

The McNuNaziLab's have begun their propoganda blitz. Be aware they will strike anywhere.

Support and vote SNP for a better,
fairer independent Scotland.
12

Dr. James Wilkie,

Vienna 28/02/2008 19:03:23
The realities of international law and diplomatic practice are now percolating very slowly into the Scottish national consciousness, but its mental hang-up on the European Union will have to be overcome. There is much more to the international scene than the EU.

The organisations that will determine whether an independent Scotland is internationally recognised will be, in the first instance, the United Nations, at global level, and at European level the Council of Europe and the Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe - not the European Union.

The 46-member CoE lays down the standards for pluralist democracy, the rule of law and the maintenance of human rights, and monitors their observance in Europe. The 55-member OSCE is concerned with the practical application of these standards. The EU Court of Justice has no jurisdiction whatsoever over Scotland’s constitutional status, and is concerned only with membership of that single organisation.

An independent Scotland would have to apply to join dozens of vitally important international organisations, at global and European level, and in most cases prior approval by the UN and CoE would be a precondition. Membership of the European Union is in no way a necessity, but a matter for consideration on its merits.

13

Dr. James Wilkie,

Vienna 28/02/2008 19:05:29
The United Nations has laid down certain standards for the recognition of a “people” that is entitled to exercise the right of self-determination under international law. These include its own social and cultural characteristics, a lengthy shared experience over a considerable period, and an association with a territory, etc. Scotland meets these criteria many times over.

The first recorded King of Scots was consecrated in the year 574 AD. The state crown in Edinburgh Castle is so old that nobody knows when it was made (it was remodeled in 1540). The first mention of the Scottish Parliament by a chronicler dates from the year 1174 under King William I (William the Lion). The old Parliament building on the Royal Mile was built in 1632-39. It was the King of Scots who took over England – not the reverse. Scottish law – including its constitutional law - is an independent and protected system that is internationally unique. And the present Union is not based on conquest, but on a treaty under international law that can be revised or abrogated, especially now that there is once again a government capable of representing the Scottish people for the purpose.

Scotland’s status as a nation under international law, as a geographical, economic, social, cultural, legal and constitutional entity that is entitled to exercise the right of self-determination, is absolutely unshakeable. There is no need to ask anyone’s permission – it is a decision for the Scottish people and no one else.

14

R Guraziu,

London 28/02/2008 19:15:28
Princip I certainly do not expect a different response from a Serbian nationalist such as yourself.

As the situation stands the Scots are better off . The British prime minister is Scottish, the Chancellor is Scottish, the Secretary of Defence is Scottish, the Speaker of Parliament is Scottish, I see no reason why the Scots would want independence, although the eventually will in 10-20 years. If the people of Scotland decide to become independent they should.

However, you can link the case to Kosova only if England (As Serbia did to Kosova) decide to sack all the workers in Scotland, dissolve her parliament, Close universities, persecute violently 2/3 of her population and 10 years later kill tens of thousands and forcefully drive out from Scotland millions of Scots. This, of course will never happen.
15

A. N. Other,

Aberdeen 28/02/2008 21:28:27
The Parliament was dissolved by force of economic sanction, much of the population was persecuted and the reason the Scots international community is so big today is because so many Scots WERE forefully driven out during the clearances.

To suggest that "this will never happen" is to forget that it already HAS happened in Scotland.

As for, why would we not want independence, well just because some important people in a foreign parliament which controls Scotland originate here does not mean that they have any Scottish interests at heart.
16

Princip,

28/02/2008 21:50:29
#14 R Guraziu,London

"As the situation stands the Scots are better off . "

- well that is nice from an ethnic Albanian in London to say!

Like I said there is a huge difference from illegal secession of serbia's province on the grounnds that an ethnic minority have become a local majority and that of a legitamate claim to self determination for the nation of Scotland. The hypocrisy lies with the ruling government who unashamedly rip up all international nnorms and laws and illegally recognise secession of what is a geographic boundary and has never existed as a nation state ever in history while blocking at all attempts the quite legitamate desire for Scotlands independence if the Scottish chose or not!
17

Princip,

Edinburgh 28/02/2008 21:55:03
Also I might add though I don't deny my Serbian heritage I am British born. More over Iam fully integrated and respectful of the laws and land that I live in - something that my Grandfather and parents instilled into me i.e. respect for the sate I am in! Sadly it would seem that something that clearly was in short supply form many an ethnic-Albanian born or who immigrated to the republic of Serbia!
18

truthsleuth,

29/02/2008 00:17:31
#8 KampungHighlander,

Well put
It would be of great interest to know the REAL reason for support for Kosovo independance.

The terrifying consequence of what has happened here will be realised in the next decade.
The poer of Islam strikes again.
19

Dr. James Wilkie,

Vienna 29/02/2008 09:50:40
Since the comparison here is between the relative merits of Scotland and Kosovo in respective of the right to self-determination, let me once again point out that less than two thirds of the present Albanian population of Kosovo were actually born in the province, and that half a million Serbs and minority ethnic groups were driven out by Albanian aggression. That is no basis for self-determination, and all the other qualifications for independence are also conspicuous by their absence. With or without independence, the province is going to remain a millstone round the neck of the international community for generations to come.

The real reason for the policy is somewhat different. With independence for Kosovo, Russia-friendly Serbia loses its sovereignty over the area of Camp Bondsteel, the gigantic US military base in Kosovo near the border with Macedonia, which is within striking distance of the Middle East, the Caspian Sea, and western Russia. This has a great deal more to do with the present international political constellation than has oil.

Gordon Brown and his team are, as usual, dancing to the American tune. Having set the precedent of independence on the basis of a flagrant coup d'état by a single ethnic group, steered from abroad, the UK is going to be haunted by this for a long time to come.

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Dr. James Wilkie,

Vienna 29/02/2008 11:10:30
Sorry, a typing error. Less than ONE third of the present Albanian population of Kosovo was born in the province.

 

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