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Published Date: 05 March 2008
SOME time ago, I entered a room I thought was the venue for a modern studies teachers' conference. I observed, however, a notice alerting me to the fact that I had, in error, turned up at a meeting for LGBT teachers.
Part of me wanted to believe the professionals sat before me were sandwich aficionados and LGBT was something akin to BLT (bacon, lettuce and tomato). But, of course, LGBT does not refer to a lettuce, ginger, bacon and tomato sandwich – it means lesb
ian, gay, bisexual and transgender (the last category includes both pre and post op – I'm happy to clear up any confusion regarding the criteria for membership). Being heterosexual, I left the room immediately – straight away, if you will.

According to weekend press reports, the government is considering moves to teach primary pupils about concepts such as cross-dressing. Teachers will be encouraged to speak about the issue of gender stereotyping, for example, that there should be respect for those lads who wear make-up, dress in girls' clothing and like to be known by a girl's name. Further, HMIe will ascertain the effectiveness of school support for transsexuals (drag performance indicators?).

I'm speculating but my best guess is that this pioneering project will be rejected by the Catholic education sector. Sadly, tiny Tim will continue to believe that a tranny is a wee radio and a bisexual is a kind of kerb crawler.

Ministers commissioned the report based on concern that around half of LGBT pupils are bullied at school. In my opinion, this statistic represents progress. When I were a lad, any boy who exhibited any form of behaviour that did not conform to the west of Scotland machismo male stereotype was in gross danger of being kicked senseless. Playing effete sports such as badminton aroused suspicion, thus I had to quickly develop a gruff exterior and constantly refer to my racquet as a "bat".

As very few primary children are likely to be transgendered, it appears to me that we are in danger of presenting a solution for a problem that doesn't exist. In my experience, it's only gay and lesbian pupils who are at risk of being harassed. Terms of non-endearment such as "gay boy" and "lezzie" are heard around the corridors of most schools. Such a charge is directed at a person as a form of verbal abuse, not as a perceptive utterance that publicly "outs" a hitherto unnoticed homosexual on the school roll. In nearly 30 years of teaching, I've never heard "Eff off you bisexual bastard" nor, for that matter, angry outbursts such as "You're nothing but a pre-op transgender piece of crap."

LGBT kids must be the only bullied group to have a report written about them by educationalists, equal rights campaigners and community groups. It's a cliché, but any kid who is "different" has the potential to be a victim. Kids are bullied for a multitude of reasons: having a mop of red hair, wearing spectacles, being obese, being smelly, talking "aw posh", not having the right brand-name trainers. The list is infinite, but lobbying by the vocal LGBT brigade has somehow managed to get the ear of the government. To me, this is the thin end of the wedge. Taken to its logical conclusion, human rights campaigners will soon demand Johnny be allowed to come to school in the slinky little black dress his mum bought him for the valedictory dance.

To its credit, Scotland is a tolerant society, and, if any LGBT teacher doubts this, I suggest he/she takes the opportunity of a year-long teacher exchange with a Saudi Arabian colleague. Spandex-wearing demonstrators regularly march along our high streets to show us the pride they have in their lifestyle and orientation. Good luck to them, and I mean that most sincerely.

But politicians should think twice before allowing LGBT activists to force feed their agenda down the throats of pre-teenage pupils.





The full article contains 672 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 04 March 2008 11:39 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Teaching , Hugh Reilly
 
1

Simone (Lady Amarant),

London 05/03/2008 06:33:15
Gender Identity is established between around-about the ages of 3 and 7. I knew before I went to primary school that I was supposed to have been born a girl, and my life would have been MUCH easier, not to mention less painful, had I been allowed to be me rather than having to hide and later repress it.
2

fife runner,

05/03/2008 08:35:41
so now we know where the pressure for introducing such daft ideas comes from. Did not think LGBT for teachers existed. It also throws up some interesting issues. Do you let a homosexual teacher into school dressing rooms for boys just as one would not let men into girls changing areas. Perhaps the LGBT could answer that one.

Kids should be taught the norm is heterosexual but that some may not be so. The minority should not be allowed to dictate that to be gay is on a level par with being straight. The majority are straight but gays should be allowed to express their thoughts without fear just as the majority should be allowed to say what we feel.
3

Irene Bujman,

East Kilbride 05/03/2008 08:37:12
A largely ill-informed and flatulent piece. Your correspondent may believe that there's no problem, however 20% of female-identifying, male-born children will end up committing suicide. The figure may be higher as a proportion of unexplained suicides will also include transgendered individuals who never revealed their identity.

Your correspondent would have done well to talk to a few transgendered individuals before composing this article. Being transgendered is a big deal for the individual concerned, their family, friends, colleagues and so forth. Education in the matter would help a good many people.

One final point: the word "Tranny" is viewed as offensive by many transgenders, particularly as The Sun newspaper uses it in a pejorative sense, thereby encouraging its readership to do likewise.
4

Simone (Lady Amarant),

London 05/03/2008 09:00:24
"The minority should not be allowed to dictate that to be gay is on a level par with being straight."

Geez dude, so the minority asian, oriental or black communities here in the UK aren't on a par with white people? Or disabled people aren't on a par with able-bodied?

Just because people are born different from you, doesn't mean you are any better than they are, nor that your interests should be advanced over theirs.
5

Simone (Lady Amarant),

London 05/03/2008 09:02:34
Thanks for a sensitive and encouraging take on things Irene.

Just one point of disagreement - the number of suicides in our community run at about 50%.
6

WJohn,

Wonderland 05/03/2008 09:10:14
Are Lesbians not Gay?
Or is the Gay community being sexist by excluding them?
7

Simone (Lady Amarant),

London 05/03/2008 09:52:10
Dear Dave,

You don't run the risk of being murdered just for being born. Statistically transgendered people are more likely to be the victim of a hate crime than every other minority group combined. Until our situation is normalised within society by making it more visible and just another everyday variation, like being bald, those statistics won't change.
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Simone (Lady Amarant),

London 05/03/2008 11:27:54
Dave,

Hehe, point taken. The thing is, being bald, or short or whatever might get you ridiculed, but because there isn't a religious or cultural stigma attached to it, that's as far is it's going to go. Black people are protected by law because racists kill or discriminate against them. Disabled people have protections that force people to accomodate them and not discriminate against them. GLBTQ people are in the same position of stigma and violent discrimination, and that's why we need those protections, at least until our situation normalises to being the same as being bald.
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Simone (Lady Amarant),

London 05/03/2008 11:36:40
Dave,

If we ever get to the point where we can laugh at each other and ourselves without malice and ill-will, and being different (for whatever reason) doesn't cost you a job, family, your life, I'll help him! ;)

In the meantime, I will keep pressing for equal rights for LGBTQ and bald people everywhere. Just because you are bald does not make you a bad person!
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Irene Bujman,

East Kilbride 05/03/2008 11:57:54
Homophobia and transphobia are encouraged by certain religions whereas the other prejudices mentioned above are not.

Persecution of any kind can be addressed with reference to the Protection From Harassment Act. Harassment is not defined in the act, but is open to interpretation. An action amounts to harassment if a reasonable person, given the full circumstances would consider it so.

Harassment occurs when such an action takes place a second time or subsequently and can be dealt with as a civil or criminal matter.
11

Simone (Lady Amarant),

London 05/03/2008 12:03:22
Q: People who are genderqueer, or just Q for short. This is really a catch-all for people who identify as neither male or female, or a little bit of both. An examples would be androgynes, who identify as neither.
12

Queen D,

Glasgow 05/03/2008 12:21:44
Sheez, teacher leave those kids alone!
I would ban sex education in schools right now!
Biology can cover the reproduction systems of mammals the rest should be covered by parents , no matter how badly they do the job.
Are the teachers going to have to cover sado masochism?
Some people like that!
Prostitution going to be covered?
Some people like that.
Some people like putting poly bags over their heads are the teachers going to cover that?
Get a grip!
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Simone (Lady Amarant),

London 05/03/2008 13:05:04
Queen D:

All the activities you describe are either fetishes (which are established after birth and thus learned behaviours) or simply choices. Being GLBTQ is established before birth, and is simply a natural variation.
I don't think fetishes should be taught in schools, no. As to prostitution, an understanding of why women and men are driven to such a desperate last resort by social and economic pressures might do the kids some good.
14

belzebub,

edinburgh 05/03/2008 16:17:39
What about us lot that like bonking farm animals and stuff like that ?

I had a wild night with a Gray Mullet I picked up in Sainsburys the other day.Does that make me a "necrophatic aquatic"
What i do in the privacy of my Council office is my business !
15

Simone (Lady Amarant),

London 05/03/2008 19:13:40
#26: Dave,

"Ok Simone, what does the G stand for now? Man, you are running rings round me here!"

Nah. You're someone that is actually up for an open, honest debate - which is often quite hard to come by. Thanks for being a real gentleman today!

Simone
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Simone (Lady Amarant),

London 05/03/2008 19:21:03
#28: belzebub,

Actually, what you're doing to the animal should probably be considered rape, since (s)he didn't consent. As for the corpse hon - same thing. Might be dead, but still to be respected.

As far as sexual acts go - the keyword is EQUAL, MUTUAL consent. As far as gender and gender identity go - those have nothing to do with sex dear-heart. It's about being true to who you are instead of the hateful brainwashing you've been subjected to all your life.
17

arf,

Luton 05/03/2008 22:59:52
In 30 years of teaching, have you never heard "Geezer bird" or "Your dad's your mum!" Is "tranny" not a transphobic term?
Gender is a complex issue and gender dysphoria is a serious is a srong feeling that can set in during early childhood. It simply won't do to dismiss it in a tongue in cheek article.
Bullying is an abuse of power and it needs to be dealt with in schools because is continues into later life, but far too many schools - and staff - still operate on the principle that bullying is inevitable (I've even heard it argued that it's character forming!)
One tactic that might make schools safer is to educate about trans issues so that they are not seen as a suitable vehicle for labelling and targetting by the bullies. Take away their weapons and they'll finally be left with nothing to fight with.
And as for rushing out of the room because it's full of LGBT people...purlease! You at least stopped short of saying you kept your back to the wall!
18

Em,

06/03/2008 00:18:53
#25 Simone

Your claim that sexual preference is established before birth and therefor implying homosexuals are born that way is scientifically baseless.

Homosexuality emerges as a complex socially conditioned behaviour. In 2005 a research team at the University of Illinois screened the entire human genome system. Led by Dr. Brian Mustanski, he concluded, 'Sexual orientation is a complex trait. There is no one "gay" gene.' Homosexual propaganda consistently ignores such scientific evidence.

More telling, an Australian study of identical twins in 2000 found only 20% male homosexual and 24% female homosexual had a gay twin. Yet if genes determine sexual orientation, the figure should be 100% because importantly, identical twins have identical genes.

So, if the condition is not biologically determined, it has to be embraced as a life-choice - something most homosexuals utterly reject. Why - because it has significant political implications for sustaining homosexual credibility.
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06/03/2008 01:46:21
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Simone (Lady Amarant),

London 06/03/2008 13:29:51
#32 Em:

Focussing on a genetic predicator for sexual preference and gender identity ignores the fact that the brain of a foetus is only gendered at around 12 weeks after conception due to the release of sex hormones into the mother's womb. Before that time ALL foetusses have a female brain, since that is the default. Any one of dozens of factors can interfere with this gendering process, either partially or fully, and since gender identity and sexual preference are seated in slightly different structures and areas of the brain, you can end up with homosexual or straight transsexuals, homosexual or straight non-trans people, bisexuals, bi-gendered, androgynes and every other combination you can shake a stick at.

A well known example of this is diethylstilbetrol ( http://www.intersexualite.org/DES_Info.html ) but considering the artificial hormones that leech into the environment from our plastics, growth hormone and antibiotics used by the tanker-load in the dairy and meat industries, etc. There are plenty of culprits to go around. Add to that congenital defects, excessive stress and many other factors that can interfere with the development of the foetus, and expecting there NOT to be variation is frankly beyond me.

Now, I am not as up to speed on research as regards homosexuality, though it is related to transsexuality, at least as far as brain chemistry and structure goes. As such, I'll only present studies as regards transsexualism that indicate biological rather than psychological origin:

http://www.symposion.com/ijt/ijtc0106.htm
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7440
http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/47/1/176
http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/85/5/2034
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Simone (Lady Amarant),

London 06/03/2008 13:38:51
#32: Em

And just to clarify: No, being LGBTQ or anything inbetween is not a tragic accident. Society only turns it into one. Sexual and gender variation has ALWAYS existed in nature ( though I believe we have precipitated a marked increase ) and as such it is no different from any other natural variation.
22

Em,

07/03/2008 12:37:53
Grushka #34
You call me bigotted and claim I should not exist simply because I have an opinion that varies from your own, surely it is you who is displaying the characteristics of a bigott.

In your post at #9 you pointed out that there is a higher suicide statistic on homosexuals as opposed to hetrosexuals and alluded to the idea that this is a result of the stigma surrounding homosexuality.

Recent studies show homosexuals have a substantially greater risk of suffering from psychiatric problems than do heterosexuals. We see higher rates of suicide, depression, bulimia, antisocial personality disorder, and substance abuse.

Many people like yourself claim this is the result of social oppression therefor implying that homosexuals as a group are mentally as healthy as hetrosexuals but it is the social stigma associated with homosexuality that causes ill mental health.

A particular study has found that homosexuals showed definite personal and emotional oversensitivity. Add to this the homosexual lifestyle and of course you will have a higher suicide rate.
It has been found that the major reason for suicide attempts was the breakup of relationships.
Since homosexuals have greater numbers of partners and breakups, compared with heterosexuals, and since longterm gay male relationships are rarely monagamous, it is hardly surprising if suicide attempts are proportionally greater. The median number of partners for homosexuals is four times higher than for heterosexuals.

The authors of a study done in The Netherlands were surprised to find so much mental illness in homosexual people in a country where tolerance of homosexuality is greater than in almost all other countries.
Another good comparison country is New Zealand, which is much more tolerant of homosexuality than is the United States. Legislation giving the movement special legal rights is powerful, consistently enforced throughout the country, and virtually never challenged. Despite this broad level
23

Em,

07/03/2008 12:39:19
contd......

Despite this broad level of social tolerance, suicide attempts were common in a New Zealand study and occurred at about the same rate as in the U.S.

Several studies give credence to the idea that it is the homosexual lifestyle that causes mental ill health in the majority of cases, not social oppression as many assume.
24

Em,

07/03/2008 12:48:46
Simone:
You raise a point worth considering with regard to chemicals in the environment, synthetic estrogens for example are being pumped into the water supply and finding there way into the environment, resulting in the feminization of certain species of fish who previously had a healthy male-female ratio. Also with regard to humans it has been shown that the sp-erm count is dropping at an alarming rate, this is only occuring in the developed nations of the world.
But how do modern chemicals account for homosexuality throughout history?

More research needs to be done on the subject, while many doctors and researchers believe there may be a biological component to homosexuality this is still not fully understood, however they do say that social conditions factor a great deal into weather or not a person is homosexual.

For example a large number of people who were sexually abused while growing up develop homosexual feelings in adulthood, research has shown that Abused male adolescents, particularly those victimized by males, were up to 7 times more likely to self-identify as gay or bisexual than peers who had not been abused. studies have also shown a link between male homosexuality and poor early father-son relationship.
One homosexual male may have feminine characteristics that would play a role in defining his sexual orientation, while another gay male with prominent masculine characteristics may have in his history environmental factors to account for his homosexuality.

Therefor we cannot asign all cases of homosexuality to being pre-determined when studies have shown that social and environmental factors play a major roll in a person defining their sexuality.
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Simone (Lady Amarant),

London 07/03/2008 15:05:34
#39 Em:

As you'll note from my post, I attribute an increase in gender and sexuality variance to human interference. There have always been environmental stressors around, from something as obvious as sun-flare activity down to the concentration of particular trace elements in a certain mountain stream the tribe happens across. Variations in birth occur because of variation environment, whether in- or ex-utero. We've just made the environment more unstable, thus precipitating an increase in variation.

You raise an interesting point as far as post-birth influences, and I don't expressly rule those out, but they cannot account for all or even the majority of cases of variance. That said, I agree that trauma and experience does affect humans, very deeply, but to label it a purely psychological by default over-simplifies things. Keep in mind that the human brain is still physically developing within the first two or three years of life. Without the relative protection of a mother's womb, that brain is that much more susceptible to interference, and since our emotions, thoughts, perceptions are all physical stimuli in the brain, they could almost certainly have an influence. That I don't dispute.

My question is, so what? What it boils down to is that we are different, for whatever reason, and that we can't help it. Just like somebody who develops Multiple Sclerosis or is born with a club foot or whatever, it is not a lifestyle choice we make. Not to say that I regard this condition a disability. Rather, it has given me unique insight into the world, and in learning about myself I hope that I have developed a more compassionate, spiritual nature. The disability is society's, in much the same way as racism is society's problem. There is no reason for us to be marginalised, save that society fears and hates us, simply because we are different nad somehow threaten their brittle sense of normal.

BTW, I would appreciate if you could quote some references for the st
26

Simone (Lady Amarant),

London 07/03/2008 15:07:07
Annoying limited comment fields! Argh! ;)

#39 Em:

... BTW, I would appreciate if you could quote some references for the studies you cite - I would love to read them, since anything that increases my understanding of being trans increases my understanding of me.
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Simone (Lady Amarant),

London 07/03/2008 15:13:09
#39 Em:

On a final note, my own childhood was shockingly, boringly normal. My mother and father were always amazingly supportive and loving, of both my brother and myself, and I never had any problems with other family or friends. I SUFFERED at school for being different - which I knew pretty much the moment I started having regular contact with other children at primary school, and issues around my gender did lead to all sorts of other stuff, but there were no social precipitors for the GID - it served as the prime mover for many other issues.

On the other hand, my mom has always had problems with pregnancy. One miscarriage, then me, and then my brother, who had to be pulled out with forceps.

 

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