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City is cheating drivers who pay for road upkeep



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Published Date: 07 October 2008
WITH regard to the article "Sort it out" in the News (October 4) I was wondering if anyone at Lothian and Borders Police would be interested in pressing charges against either tram firm TIE or Edinburgh City Council and possibly both? I believe that a massive theft of road tax funds could be taking place.
It is getting to the stage that it does not matter which street you drive along in Edinburgh, it is going to be closed or obstructed. If it is not the tram works, then no doubt a bus or cycle lane has been installed.

Most drivers in Edinburgh will
have paid their road tax, which appears to be increasing year on year, and this entitles them to drive on the city roads. When I see scenes such as last week at The Mound it completely angers me beyond words.

It is also becoming apparent that when the whole tram system is up and running that many roads will be for trams or buses only and not open for general motorists.

If the city council and TIE wish to continue with all these road closures and obstructions then some kind of road tax refund should be made to those who use the roads in Edinburgh most frequently. If this can't be done then the authorities should face charges as I don't see why I should keep paying for roads that are closed and obstructed and feel that this amounts to nothing short of theft from road tax payers.
Mr Alastair Macintyre, Webster Place, Rosyth, Fife

Who's telling truth about memorial?
CAN the person telling the truth about the Hearts war memorial in this council administration please stand up?

The city economic leader Tom Buchanan is quoted in the News on September 30 stating that it is nonsense to suggest that the memorial would be kept away from Haymarket permanently and that this memorial would absolutely return to Haymarket.

Steve Cardownie the deputy council leader is quoted as stating "We have no intention of permanently removing the war memorial, this was only in an official's report that will not get the backing of the politicians."

But then in News on October 3 yet another councillor, Phil Wheeler, the city's transport leader is now quoted as stating that the next two years will allow for a period of discussion over the final location for the memorial.

Would anyone in this administration like to finally tell the concerned electorate of the city which one of the above is correct in order that the matter can be resolved?

That is of course unless it is to be decided by an, as yet unknown official, who does appear to be making all these decisions for them because quite frankly, if we use this matter as an example, this lot are a shambles!
Kenneth Wright, Drumbrae Drive, Edinburgh

Walk away and shop elsewhere
IT seems that with the removal of the zebra crossings in George Street the city council, which is often accused of being anti-car, is now turning on pedestrians.

No wonder people choose go shopping in Glasgow, where you can you can do so without having to dodge in and out of the traffic.
Mr A Morris, St Leonard's Lane, Edinburgh

Cost rise puts heat on energy users
I ATTENDED the public meeting in the Nelson Halls about soaring gas and electricity bills mentioned in the News (October 1).

I was glad to hear that Colin Fox and the Scottish Socialists are as angry as I am about this issue and they at least are speaking out against these outrageous bills.

One elderly woman at the meeting mentioned that her gas bill for June, July and August had just arrived and said despite it being for the summer months it was the highest she had ever had. I dread to think how many people like her across the country are living in fear of their winter bill.

Colin Fox must surely have spoken for many more when he warned the gas companies they were drinking in the "last chance saloon", that people will not put up with further increases. Energywatch the industry monitor now estimates there are 5.5 million households living in fuel poverty in Britain, which is to say they are paying more than ten per cent of their income on this one bill.

Politicians from all parties should recognise that people are livid about these increases and believe the power companies are ripping off the public.
Robert Dickson, Mortonhall Road, Edinburgh

Let's see if local taxation is fair way
DO you remember being warned that local income tax would be bad for the economy and that it might even trigger a recession? Well, we are heading into one now, but not because of LIT.

The latest lie is that LIT would result in hard-working Edinburgh folk having to subsidise local services for work-shy spongers in poorer parts of Scotland where the councils can't raise enough cash locally, (News, October 3). We happen to be doing that already.

Council tax is such a lousy way of fishing for funds that every council in the country is mainly funded via national taxation.

LIT, being more effective and about half as costly to run, should enable most authorities to be self-sufficient. Council tax lets highly paid people off the hook, charges double-income households the same as single-income ones and a quarter of its bills need to be covered with benefit money.

When everyone pays their fair dues under LIT we shall see who really needs to be subsidised.
A Murphy, Learmonth Grove





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  • Last Updated: 07 October 2008 9:38 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Speedy Gonzales,

Edinburgh 07/10/2008 11:54:35
Mr Macintyre, I'm as amused as you are regarding the issues we are experiencing with road closures/diversion in Edinburgh, and I'd rather not get into the road tax/Road fund license but your letter cannot be serious!?!
If our 'road tax' did indeed pay for 'access' to roads, do we pay more when more, new roads are built? Bearing in mind, not all road users pay tax, some vehicles are exempt, where is this say in all of this? Roads are funded by ALL tax payers from all over the country, not just locals so the burden is shared.
As for closures, I do not know who in authority has responsibility for closing roads, but I do know they can be closed at any time without copensation to the public. This can be for parades/events where there are large crowds and a whole plethora of other reasons, should we drivers be compensated for every occasion? I think not!
2

Thomas the Tank,

Edinburgh 07/10/2008 12:21:21
I suspect Mr Macintyre will drive an old Rover, whilst wearing a bunnet and string-backed driving gloves. If Speedy @1 won't tell him, I'll point out that the quaint term 'road tax/road fund licence' vanished years ago, to be replaced with 'Vehicle Excise Duty'. And no, I doubt whether 'anyone at Lothian and Borders Police would be interested in pressing charges' on his stupid idea.
3

Artemis,

07/10/2008 12:28:50
Mr MacIntyre, roads are paid for by income tax, VAT and council tax as well, not just VED. Should we all get a rebate on those as well?
4

Curious Yellow,

Edinburgh 07/10/2008 12:33:25
Re the Hearts memorial - why can't it simply be returned to its present position once the works are over? Unless I'm mistaken, there were tram lines in that area before now, and in fact not just one line as is proposed. Not only that, but didn't the tram lines pre-date the erection of the memorial?
5

Jingling Geordie,

Sunshine on Leith 07/10/2008 12:35:44
# A Murphy.

Here, here.
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Road Raga,

EDINBURGH 07/10/2008 12:41:22
Actually, almost all of the roads in Edinburgh are paid for out of COUNCIL TAX, and not ''road tax'' (VED).
So this guy MacIntyre is completely wrong, infact as he lives in Fife he doesn't contribute a penny towards the roads in Edinburgh in the first place !
How wrong can someone be ?
7

familymanwith2jobsandawifeworkingfulltime,

07/10/2008 13:14:55
"When everyone pays their fair dues under LIT we shall see who really needs to be subsidised."

Well I would need to be subsidised for one. Theres not much left when you consider we already have 41% tax and very high monthly outgoings such as mortgage payments.
8

n1vek,

edinburgh 07/10/2008 13:17:58
A Murphy
Seconded
9

Jasbar,

07/10/2008 13:46:12
For the first time Road Raga may just be correct. VED has long since been just another piece of general taxation, going into the collective public purse.

That not even a fraction of it is disbursed into funding our road infrastructure explains why our roads are in a terrible state.

Of course the luminaries like Road Raga don't want reasonable roads, on which you can drive your vehicle without it rapidly descending to the boneshaker level of 100 years ago.

No, road raga would have us all fit into the rigid public transport system, reorganise our lives to meet the diktat of the bus route planners in Lothian Buses and waste our lives hanging about bus stops or being confronted by the great unwashed and rude public in buses and trains. That's real choice folks!

However, If the VED does go into the collective pot, then it's clear we aren't getting any share of it. So in that sense folks in Fife do contribute to all our roads, and do have the right of complaint.
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Jasbar,

07/10/2008 13:51:37
I guess Mr Wright has just described that politicians are, at best just making it up as they go along, or at worst outright liars.

While I would love the SNP to stiff Labour in the forthcoming Glenrothes bye-election, it's not because they are any better than any of the other political control freaks in our political sphere, it's just that it would be a useful way to send a clear message to minister's son Brown that he is without any principles and deserves to be kicked out.

Wherever the war memorial ends up, it will not be becuase the wishes of the public have been taken into account. The priority is the tram system. All else is secondary.

And remember it will be the unelected, unaccountable TIE that will decide. That is the way in our alleged democracy, where key public decisions are taken outwith the politically "accountable" arena.
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Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 07/10/2008 14:05:41
Whilst Mr McIntyre's arguement falls down on many points, one thing he said is actually 100% correct:-

"It is also becoming apparent that when the whole tram system is up and running that many roads will be for trams or buses only and not open for general motorists."

In other words, this raft of diversions and closures is not temporary. Once the stupid train set is installed, they will be PERMANENT.

Wake up! Scrap this crazy scheme NOW.
12

Stevie Mac,

Edinburgh 07/10/2008 14:32:32
Road Tax helps to pay for the roads and bridges that Mr Macintyre uses to get to and from his home in Rosyth to the city of edinburgh. And for the roads that he uses to get to newcastle to do his christmas shopping, which he was telling us about last week. He really ought to try living in Edinburgh it is pretty damned good.
13

Porty Pirate,

The Beach 07/10/2008 14:33:29
Mr Macintyre - Why don't you just give Edinburgh a miss and get the coach down to Newcastle to go to the Metro Centre!
14

Mitchell Inman,

Edinburgh 07/10/2008 17:48:30
Yet another EN letter rant that has studiously failed to accurately represent any actual facts as the basis of its argument. I'm not sure who is worse - the moron that wrote it or the eejit that edits (sic) the letters page.
15

madrab,

Edinburgh 07/10/2008 19:05:46
Has anyone seen this? Someone has trained an EN reporter to do something worthwhile.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7654267.stm

 

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