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Burning Issue: Is vaccinating school girls for cervical cancer the best strategy?



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Published Date: 02 September 2008
Yes

DR LESLEY WALKER

Director of information, Cancer Research UK
THE government has announced that girls aged 12 will be offered vaccination against the human papillomavirus (HPV) – the virus which causes the majority of cervical cancers.

Each year, there are about 2,700 new cases of cervical cancer in the UK,
just 1 per cent of new cancer cases diagnosed.

Although there is a higher chance of developing cervical cancer later in life, it is the second most common cancer in women under the age of 35.

Studies suggest that the vaccine can prevent the majority of cervical cancers.

Our own research indicates that most mothers with teenage daughters are in favour of the vaccine. Although mothers do have concerns over any potential side effects, only a minority are concerned that the vaccine might encourage promiscuity.

Our study revealed that most mums voted for girls to be vaccinated at 12. But some feared an injection that prevents cancer developing from the HPV could have unpleasant side effects. Only a minority feared that it might encourage promiscuous behaviour. Most mothers (80 per cent) agreed that the appropriate age for vaccination was between ten and 14. And 75 per cent of mothers said they would probably or definitely accept the HPV vaccine for their daughter.

Potential side effects were a worry for 65 per cent of mothers. Only 12 per cent thought it would make girls more likely to have sex.

It's important to remember that cervical cancer rates are already low in the UK, thanks to the success of the screening programme.

No

DR PETRA BOYNTON

Psychologist

WHILE I welcome any efforts to protect the sexual health of young people, it's worrying that the government committee and the wider media appear to have overlooked the wider scientific debate about this vaccine, as well as the political issues it raises. Debates have raged within the US about the ethics of compulsory vaccination, the use of girls as the recipients of the vaccine and whether the programme could be one big drug trial. Parents have raised worries about the effect on the health of their children as well as whether the availability of the vaccine could encourage sexual activity or put girls in an increasingly vulnerable position.

Although cervical cancer is a terrible disease and many women are affected, there are suggestions that a vaccine alone isn't going to help. Although it may prevent girls getting HPV and, therefore, risk developing cervical cancer, there are suggestions that the availability of a vaccine could lead to young people having unprotected sex, believing the vaccine is keeping them "safe".

We need to address peer pressure, gender inequalities and coercion. We also need to let young people know what sexual health services are available to them at youth-friendly times – and for that we need services that are well staffed and open – which, again, is a problem due to our chronic underspending on sexual health.

We have to wonder why in the UK there's enthusiasm for a highly expensive vaccine whose long-term effects are unknown but little effort made to fund sexual health services or make school sex education compulsory for all.





The full article contains 539 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 01 September 2008 11:29 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 02/09/2008 01:08:27

RIGHT! This is Total Brainwashing of the masses and many a lie is being 'thrust' into the heads of our young, here in my next post, is some truth on the matter, which I did tell you all, but from another poster on this subject,

Please read!
2

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 02/09/2008 01:10:25
From Stewart C,

THE GREAT HPV VACCINE HOAX EXPOSED?

(Mike Adams, NaturalNews) For the last several years, HPV vaccines have been marketed to the public and mandated in compulsory injections for young girls in several states based on the idea that they prevent cervical cancer. Now, NaturalNews has obtained documents from the FDA and other sources (see below) which reveal that the FDA has been well aware for several years that Human Papilloma Virus (HPV) has no direct link to cervical cancer.

NaturalNews has also learned that HPV vaccines have been proven to be flatly worthless in clearing the HPV virus from women who have already been exposed to HPV (which includes most sexually active women), calling into question the scientific justification of mandatory "vaccinate everyone" policies.

Furthermore, this story reveals evidence that the vaccine currently being administered for HPV -- Gardasil -- may increase the risk of precancerous cervical lesions by an alarming 44.6 percent in some women. The vaccine, it turns out, may be far more dangerous to the health of women than doing nothing at all.

If true, this information reveals details of an enormous public health fraud being perpetrated on the American people, involving FDA officials, Big Pharma promoters, and even the governors of states like Texas. The health and safety of tens of millions of young girls is at stake here, and what this NaturalNews investigative report reveals is that HPV vaccinations may not only be medically useless; they may also be harmful to the health of the young girls receiving them.

This report reveals startling facts about the HPV vaccine that most people will find shocking:

• How it may actually increase the risk of precancerous lesions by 44.6 percent.

• The FDA has, for four years, known that HPV was not the cause of cervical cancer.

• Why mandatory HPV vaccination policies may cause great harm to young girls.

• Why HPV infections are self-limiting and pose n
3

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 02/09/2008 01:12:24
THE GREAT HPV VACCINE HOAX EXPOSED?

(Mike Adams, NaturalNews) For the last several years, HPV vaccines have been marketed to the public and mandated in compulsory injections for young girls in several states based on the idea that they prevent cervical cancer. Now, NaturalNews has obtained documents from the FDA and other sources (see below) which reveal that the FDA has been well aware for several years that Human Papilloma Virus (HPV) has no direct link to cervical cancer.

NaturalNews has also learned that HPV vaccines have been proven to be flatly worthless in clearing the HPV virus from women who have already been exposed to HPV (which includes most sexually active women), calling into question the scientific justification of mandatory "vaccinate everyone" policies.

Furthermore, this story reveals evidence that the vaccine currently being administered for HPV -- Gardasil -- may increase the risk of precancerous cervical lesions by an alarming 44.6 percent in some women. The vaccine, it turns out, may be far more dangerous to the health of women than doing nothing at all.

If true, this information reveals details of an enormous public health fraud being perpetrated on the American people, involving FDA officials, Big Pharma promoters, and even the governors of states like Texas. The health and safety of tens of millions of young girls is at stake here, and what this NaturalNews investigative report reveals is that HPV vaccinations may not only be medically useless; they may also be harmful to the health of the young girls receiving them.

This report reveals startling facts about the HPV vaccine that most people will find shocking:

• How it may actually increase the risk of precancerous lesions by 44.6 percent.

• The FDA has, for four years, known that HPV was not the cause of cervical cancer.

• Why mandatory HPV vaccination policies may cause great harm to young girls.

• Why HPV infections are self-limiting and pose no real danger in he
4

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 02/09/2008 01:13:08
cont...

• Why HPV infections are self-limiting and pose no real danger in healthy women

• Little-known FDA documents that reveal astounding facts about Gardasil

• How Big Pharma promoted its Gardasil vaccine using disease mongering and fear mongering

Read the whole document here:

http://www.naturalnews.com/Report_HPV_Vaccine_0.html

The author, Mike Adams, can be heard giving a summary here:

http://www.truthnews.us/?p=1444

P.S. British girls are to get the Cervarix vaccination, because it is cheaper than Gardasil!
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 02/09/2008 01:19:31
There is Absolutely no doubt about it and I will also reiterate,....

"it is giving out the wrong message – that it is a licence to have sex."!!!!

Also there are lies involved, how are you going to tell your daughters that one,?,....Tell Me go on?

YOU DONT KNOW!!!

Well I will tell you now and I do hope you will make it very clear to your Daughter's, because they will live thinking otherwise!

This 'Jab' DOES NOT AND WILL NOT!!......


....Prevent your Daughters from contracting "cervical cancer".

Yes it may help loads, but it is NOT a guarantee!!

So why mislead them otherwise,?

What and how are you going tell them, explain to them, when some will contract "cervical cancer" later in their lives,?

"Sorry I told lies honey"!

Sorry I mislead you honey"!

Its a bit dammed late for that is it not,?
6

Kate,

Zurich 02/09/2008 08:43:51
Morning, Charles,

unfortunately you are not (this time) totally correct. There are a range of different types of HPV, not all of which can lead to cervical cancer; however there are one or 2 which do and the vaccinations are against these specific strains.

While I hate the idea of jabs of any sort, I do agree with this programme of prevention, which is, anyway always better than cure, is it not? I say this as I was infected through a sexual assault with the strain which does lead to cervical cancer and I have to live with that for the rest of my life!
7

Venachar,

02/09/2008 11:11:29
Prevention is certainly better than cure and coupled with smear tests hopefully early detection of this disease will improve matters for women.

However here are two easily checkable statistics from 2004.

New cases of cervical cancer 282, deaths from cervical cancer 102.

New cases of prostrate cancer 2335, deaths from prostrate cancer 802.

Have we got our priorities right?
8

zeno,

www.thinkhumanism.com 02/09/2008 13:29:47
I am immediately suspicious of any 'expert' using the phrase 'Big Pharma'. However, some links to peer reviewed, authoritative research on the efficacy (or otherwise) of the HPV vaccine would be useful.

One other point: no one living in the real world thinks that vaccines are 100% effective and I don't think the NHS is saying that. However, that does not mean it should not be given.
9

discman,

edinburgh 02/09/2008 13:44:48
There is no evidence regarding efficacy,the models that JCVI used to evaluate and recommend the vaccines was 10 years Merck who make gardasil in there own clinical data state that efficacy is unknown! you do understand that this vaccine is only effective against two strands of HPV, which is found to cause approx 70% of deaths.That leaves about a third of the population unprotected!
10

discman,

edinburgh 02/09/2008 14:07:56
Venachar got it right prevention is better than cure our prevention in Scotland is the screening programme.Scotish gov.has allocated £64million over three years to the vaccination programme if this money had been allocated to screening the scottish screening programme estimate that if screening done annually they could reduce the incidenceof cervical cancer by 93.3%.What also hasnt been discussed is the clear link between incidence and morality rates and socio-economic deprivation with higher rates in the most deprived areas lower rates in the more affluent.
11

zeno,

www.thinkhumanism.com 03/09/2008 02:07:56
discman said: "There is no evidence regarding efficacy"

That's funny. The NHS website www.fightcervicalcancer.org.uk says about clinical trials:

"Thousands of girls and women of different ages took part in the clinical trials of the new vaccine against HPV.

These trials found that the vaccine offers nearly 100% protection against infection with the high-risk types of HPV in girls who haven’t previously been infected with the virus. Also, no serious side effects were seen."

Also:

"There are over 100 different types of HPV. Each one is identified by a number. Most types are harmless and only a few – around 15 out of 100 – are associated with cancer and are called “high risk” types.

Types 16 and 18 carry the most risk. They cause 70% of cases of cervical cancer.

...

The vaccine protects against two high risk types of the virus HPV 16 and HPV 18..."

If you think they are lying, please provide evidence so we can judge for ourselves.
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discman,

03/09/2008 14:23:25
zeno, I checked out the NHS site it says "GSK,carried out clinical trials involving 20,000 young women aged 15-25.Everyone who took part was checked regularly for over 5 years to make sure the vaccine was safe etc" Go to GSK site click on efficacy it talks about "The trial included more than 700 women aged between 15-25" not exactly 20000. Page2 states and I paraphrase "This was an extended follow-up analysis of women who participated in the intial efficacy study --- the intial study was a double blind controlled trial of 1,113 young women between 15-25" Again not the 20,000 stated on the NHS site. Cant see anything about testing on 12 year olds! If you go to Mercks web site,they make Gardasil the other vaccine, they state on the info for health professionals " P.5 "The duration of immunity following a complete schedule of immunization with Gardasil has not been established" That was still there yesterday afternoon! The cost for this programme over 3 years is £64million,in Scotland we still have to have a screening programme so theres an issue of double funding. If theres a question of efficacy, it may be 5,6,7,years how to you establish the vaccine is still effective? Who will pay for that particular test. Vaccination is not the route to go down, screening is more effective, The Scottish Screening Programme estimate that done annually screening could reduce the cumulative incidence of cervical cancer by 93.3%. With regard to cervical cancer in Scotland it lies 14th of cancers,that impact on women.Another issue not touched upon is the clear link between incidence and morality rates and socio-economic deprivation,with higher rates in the more deprived areas and lower rates in the more affluent!
13

zeno,

www.thinkhumanism.com 04/09/2008 01:00:35
discman

Your post was difficult to follow but the trial of 700 was an "extended follow-up study" so does not contradict the NHS figure of a previous trial (possibly including both Phase II and III trials) involving 20,000.

"The data, from an extended follow-up study, show that Cervarix generates high levels of sustained neutralising antibodies against the two virus types for up to 6.4 years." Source: http://www.pharmacyeurope.net/default.asp?title=Drugcombatscervicalcancervirus&page=article.display&article.id=10940&category.id=76

The efficacy or duration of Gardasil is irrelevant.

Surely screening finds those who have already have cervical cancer: isn't it better to prevent infection in the first place? Why should both not be valid to run concurrently?
14

discman,

05/09/2008 17:47:28
Thats what screening does it prevents the onset of cervical cancer checkout

HPV Vaccines and Gender Policy Considerations

Theres two papers ones a summary both worth a look,did you know for every 1£/$ spent on research,2£/$ is spent on media and marketing, thought Id throw that in.

At the top of the page Dr.lesley walker states re cervical cancer "is the second most common cancer in women under 35" the number of women who died in 2007 in scotland was 6 and given nicola sturgeons assertion in 20/6/2007 "the hpv vaccine against cervical cancer could potentially save thousands of lives in Scotland"

Do you not see a bit of a disparity there!
If you look at all women the number of fatalities amount to 105 making cervical cancer 14th in the list
of cancers that impact upon women behind lung cancer 1870,breast cancer 1056,colon451 etc etc

Check out General Register Office for Scotland go to births deaths and marriages and click on page6
this gives all causes of death in scotland female &male
it breaks it into ages and areas and regions,think you might find it interesting.


Nothing I have read or seen suggests this this vaccine
programme is anything other than a profit making excercise!and my concern is monies which could have been used for screening will be diverted to the cost of
the vaccine.

another site to check is:

www.prwatch.org/node/6263

Scroll down till you come to Glaxo Smith Kline highlighted, click on, read about antidepressents and adolescents pharmacetical companies pretty much sing from the same song sheet!!!!



 

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