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Too-wit-too-Who? Why children know more about Daleks than delights of nature



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Published Date: 09 July 2008
ONE is a merciless killer that causes terror when it glides into action – the other is a Dalek.
But children are more likely to be able to identify the Dr Who baddie than the barn owl, according to a new survey.

A questionnaire by the National Trust discovered that youngsters aged ten to 12 were far more knowledgeable about TV characters than nature.

The results sparked concerns children spend too much time hunched over screens in darkened rooms, instead of enjoying the great outdoors.

One leading expert said a "sad modern phenomenon" had left youngsters "disconnected from the natural world".

The online questionnaire for the heritage and conservation charity found just 53 per cent of children surveyed could identify an oak leaf, while half could not tell the difference between a bee and a wasp.

One in three of the 1,651 failed to identify a magpie and only 47 per cent correctly named a barn owl on being shown its picture. And a third failed to recognise a red admiral, Britain's best-known butterfly.

In contrast, nine out of ten were able to name Dr Who's enemies, the Daleks, and a similar number recognised the Star Wars Jedi grand master, Yoda.

The television naturalist Nick Baker said: "It's a sad modern phenomenon that has left many of us, and in particular the younger generations, disconnected from the natural world."

He added: "In an age where Nintendos and PlayStations compete with tree-climbing and pond-dipping, the virtual world is winning.

"With more kids better able to identify a fictitious alien than our national tree, the oak, something needs to be done."

He said getting troubled children exploring nature could help to stop them turning to crime and antisocial behaviour.

"There will always be violence, but I think getting kids outside would help," he said. "A lot of crime is rooted in unhappiness, but I am pretty confident it is all part of 'a nature deficiency disorder'."

The survey is being used by the National Trust to encourage families to spend more time together outdoors. Its spokeswoman, Laura Brown, said: "There is ample opportunity to enjoy open space all around us. People are aware of National Trust houses, but there's also lots of parkland and country estates that people can visit."

Matthew Oates, a National Trust conservation adviser, said natural beauty and wildlife were vital to our wellbeing. He added: "We are part of nature – we need it, and we need the beauty, wonder and laughter it offers us."

Parents said they were concerned about the findings. Two-thirds said they knew more about wildlife when they were young than their children did. Of those questioned, 65 per cent felt they spent too little time with their children outdoors.

However, a Scots education expert said the findings were unfairly harsh for the majority of children who live in cities.

Judith Gillespie, of the Scottish Parent Teacher Council, said: "It all depends on the knowledge of those around the children and the opportunities they have to learn. Beyond the blackbird, robin and swan, I'd struggle to identify many bird species."

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  • Last Updated: 08 July 2008 11:22 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 09/07/2008 00:46:57

Dear 'OH' Me!

D'oh, wake up!

I knew this decades ago!

Are People Soo Stupid to think anything else!

'OF-COURSE' Children will know more about Dr Who , than the,..'barn owl'!

Do you really think,..'Children' Have 'Barn Owls' flying over their Beds and in their House!,??

D'oh!,..D'oh!,..D'oh!,..."Too-wit-too-Who?"

Yes the kiddies Meal at MacDonald's is giving out a,..

'Barn Owl' as the Toy! and Not Kung-fu, Panda character's!

DYW,.. DYW,!

"What sexy Husband",?

"What toy did I get at McDonalds today",?

2

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 09/07/2008 00:50:08

DYW:,.."The Panda, 'of-course' sexy Husband!"

"NOT the Barn Owl",?

DYW:, .."Dont be Stupid, sexy Husband!"

D'oh!!
3

Haggis MacBagpipes,

Central Canada - ex Perth & Glesca' 09/07/2008 04:24:00
#2 - Charles Linskaill-Edinburgh.

Wot's this then Charles, you in the doghouse again, did your DYW want a sexy Barn owl, but didn't want you? ... I'm reading between the lines, which is more interesting IMHO.
Where did our friend 'BW' go? I haven't seen him post for a few days.
You should tell us more about DYW putting the boots to you...pehaps the hootsmon would give you your own page for all that interesting reading...as my auld mither used tae say, "There's waur disasters at sea, Haggis."
Cheers tae DYW and yersel, Charles.
Haggis MacBagpipes™©
4

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 09/07/2008 06:28:54

Haggis ~3,

It appears that Ive upset our BW, because he is about on these pages, but is,..'lying-low' :((

BTW, DYW and I, are just fine (cuddling/snuggling pandas), but she Beds early and bad boy me is a,..

'Night Owl'
5

Boy Wonder,

09/07/2008 08:57:59
#3 & #4 I'm on holiday. Not away ... can't afford that again. But I've been doing other things than sitting commenting on the larks in Hootsmon!

The problem lies with parents not continuing to teach their kids much once they get them into school aged 5. Young parents these days seem to think all education lies with the state and schools. Therefore they don't continue reading books to them and going on Sunday walks through the parks and pointing out the denizens of the natural world to their offspring. Parents let their kids watch TV or go on computers because it's a cheap alternative to babysitters and tutoring at home.

School education is not geared to taking up the slack from parents either. Therefore, there will always be a differentiation of what kids can be taugh as against will be taught ... and some kids lose out.

Perhaps TV can market more nature as "Heroes and Villains" ... Butterfly Boy vs the Spiderthing? Or Owlman and Ratgirl?

Either way, Chuckles Linskaill will moan as per usual as his 94 year old calloused and quivering hands attack the keyboard with his latest diatribe, while trying to placate his succubus of a DYW, who wants a child!

Chuckles ... you couldn't upset me even if you had a full set of working wits ... nor Timbo either! ;)
6

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 09/07/2008 09:15:48

Gosh BW! becoming my narrator now. :)

BTW' I thought you did not Drink the old 'alcopops', yet you entered the competition!

('oh' you are the sly one) :)
7

Unimpressed one,

09/07/2008 09:27:36
Don't slag the kids. Adults would fare just as badly.
8

Mcsnagpile,

09/07/2008 09:36:30
Kids should be active in the garden and know about green fly and the likes. How to grow tomatoes and cabbages etc.; bird sanctuaries; what types of birds come to the garden. In Edinburgh I used to hear an owl over Craig Lockhart pond some nights near the Royal Edinburgh.
Deep-frying Mars Bars, Pickled Eggs, and Pizzas are far too hazardous, also very hazardous for the over forties. They are all possibly safer watching the telly.
Dr Who twit to Who should have a pet burd or maybe he has too many already. He has had to split himself up amongst them.
9

Boy Wonder,

09/07/2008 09:41:46
#6. Chuckles ... note that I usually add "keep the booze!"
10

G,

dundy 09/07/2008 10:17:20
Unless the kids were going out in the dark or the near dark they would never see a barn owl..they have a better chance seeing them on the TV!!!!
Kids learned more about owls from Harry Potter than actual bird watching - another piece of pious inaccurate scare-mongering....
Could you identify for certain a red admiral without looking it up....???
BTW the internet is a great source for information about insect and bird identification - am I allowed to say that or odes it go against current scares to admit that using a computer can be educational!!!
11

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 09/07/2008 10:20:43

Mcsnagpile ~8,

Although I find Billy Piper sexy, I have never watch one episode of Dr Who, since it was on years ago and I was only a 'wee lad', But I did know about the,...

"Barn Owls" even as a 'wee lad'! :)
12

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 09/07/2008 10:24:26

G,dundy ~10,

"using a computer can be educational!!!"

IT Certainly IS!,..I Discovered Boy Wonder!

Is He an Education, one Wonders,?
13

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 09/07/2008 12:15:03
This is probably because of the hype that surrounds Dr Who nowadays. In the days when the Doctor was Jon Pertwee, it was just another telly program, now it seems to be the be-all and end-all of life as we know it.

Kids TV is also lacking the benefit of PROPER childrens' entertainers nowadays. People like Rolf Harris, Val, John and Pete used to teach kids about various things and develop their interest whilst still making it fun. Many kids programs have lost the plot now. It's all screaming, shouting, stupid "jokes", funny costumes and "in" phrases. Hardly any wonder that the kids don't learn from it.
14

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 09/07/2008 12:18:04
Oh, and they've also dropped really good programs like "Animal Magic" where Johnny Morris taught kids about animals in a fun way. And you no longer have Jack Hargreaves explaining about things which go on "Out of Town".

Yes, I know that many of these presenters are either dead or retired now, but where are the ones to replace them? Nowhere to be seen.
15

Haggis MacBagpipes,

Central Canada - ex Perth & Glesca' 09/07/2008 12:28:21
#12-Charles Linskaill, Edinburgh.

'Chuckles' I would certainly agree that BW is an education, look how much he has taught you. Without his input, you wouldn't be as good as you are! Though it might be like 'flogging a dead horse' if, as he says, you are an ancient man with gnarled fingers trying to sway us all into believing that you are young with a "DYW"
I must admit that I enjoy reading what goes on between Boy Wonder and yourself. He is obviously a well versed young man, while you drag on behind him as many 'old men do'
Keep up the good work, Chuckles, it might, one day, work for you.
Regards to 'DYW' and yourself, not forgetting BW who, deserves his holiday, away from us both.
Cheers,
Haggis MacBagpipes™©
16

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 09/07/2008 13:00:24

Haggis ~15,

"a well versed young man",?


I think less of the,..."Young Man" Please!

"Versed"? yes he is a,'Pain in the Rear'!

And Totally Jealous of my 'Going-on's' With my DYW,

Hence his continual, 'digs' on my age!

That's life and one has to put up with him! :((

have a Good Week Haggis.
17

fluffmeister,

Livingston 09/07/2008 14:41:32
Sounds like Fiona MacLeod has her own recognition problems in identifying an 'education expert'

Judith Gillespie shouldn't worry about going 'Beyond the blackbird, robin and swan' yet as she invariably has difficulties with the apparently indifferentiable 'her ars3' and 'her elbow'

18

Mcsnagpile,

09/07/2008 17:23:40
I remember the days of real education watching Billy Bunter’s school days in Black and White, 16 mm film, open air in the Sahara desert; the local Ai-rabs standing on their seats with excitement. I am sure this is where the Taliban extremists started. All these bully prefects. After a bottle of Flash I could recite an encyclopaedia backwards. As funny as Billy Connelly trying to play the banjo in the Scotia bar on a Saturday afternoon.
In a sandstorm on a Chinese boat in the middle of the Gulf I actually found a desert owl. Whit a poor sowl.
When the Ai-rabs watched Charlie’s Angels, demonstrations of how to Karate the wife would ensue.

Days when a major incident was when the diesel fly sprayer broke down. Some flies were so big they had landing carriages.
19

Paula,

09/07/2008 22:20:22
Don't knock the Doctor. Thanks to that programme I have twin 6 year old sons who will watch programmes on space and the universe that are beyond me. They know everything from the 10th planet to what gases make up the different planets.

And yes, they might not know it is a barn owl but they would know it is an owl.

Not all kids are interested in the animal side of nature.

 

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