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Fur flies over chief's call to bring back missing lynx



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Published Date: 03 July 2008
LYNX should once again prowl around the mountains of Scotland, according to the new chairman of an influential wildlife charity.
The animals were hunted to extinction here thousands of years ago, but Allan Bantick, who will become chairman of the Scottish Wildlife Trust (SWT) later this year, thinks they should be brought back.

His view is a controversial one, not least because lynx are predators and farmers fear they would develop a taste for sheep.

Mr Bantick is already heavily involved in the project to reintroduce the beaver, which was given the green light by the Scottish Government earlier this year.

"I'm quite convinced that the beaver will be a success story," he said. "I suspect there is also a case for the lynx. If the beaver trial is a success then maybe the lynx will be next."

He added: "I personally would certainly support the return of the lynx."

He thinks bringing them back would benefit Scotland's forests. "There are very large populations of roe deer in our forests. In other countries where lynx have been introduced the population of roe deer has been reduced and stabilised so the forest can cope with them," he said.

And he believes as humans killed off lynx in Scotland, it is up to us to try to reintroduce them. "The lynx were part of our historical world," he said. "It was eliminated by the hand of man so we should consider whether it can brought back."

He emphasised this was his personal opinion rather than the stance of SWT, and said any move to reintroduce the lynx would require years of research and planning.

Mr Bantick said he hopes there is scope for reintroducing other animals that once roamed Scotland but admits bears and wolves could pose difficulties.

"The beaver is definitely do-able. The lynx may well be. What happens next who knows?

"There may be serious political reservations about bringing back predators such as the bear or the wolf.

"Personally I don't think you would know they were there, but the very first hillwalker that died, it would be blamed on them."

Jonathan Hall, head of rural policy at the National Farmers' Union, said he was "totally opposed" to the return of lynx.

"To reintroduce an apex predator such as the lynx could have a very detrimental impact on existing species that we are doing a lot to conserve."

He added that as sheep were likely to be killed, the reintroduction would "manifest itself as an economic blow to people who are already struggling to make an income".

Alex Hogg, chairman of the Scottish Gamekeepers Association, agreed.

"It's all very well introducing more and more predators, but if these lynx were to start to attack sheep and lambs would there be a way to remove them again?"

He said he did not think they would control roe deer.

"You would need hundreds of lynx to keep the roe deer population down. Scotland's just not big enough," he said.

David Hetherington, an Aberdeen University PhD student, concluded in a report three years ago that Scotland had enough of the right habitat and prey to home 450 lynx without damage to farmers' livelihoods.

He also argued the lynx would attract tourists, providing a boost to Scotland's economy.

Beavers coming home, but wolves? Probably not

BEAVERS will roam free in Scotland next year for the first time since they were hunted to extinction 400 years ago.

Amid concerns the rodents could gnaw down trees and damage waterways, the Scottish Government has given permission for a trial reintroduction in Knapdale Forest, Argyll. Up to four beaver families will be captured in Norway and set loose.

The howl of WOLVES could be heard in Scotland until the mid-18th century, when they were wiped out by hunters.

But even though wolves have returned to other parts of Europe, they are unlikely to be allowed back to the Highlands.

Such a move would spark huge concern among the farming community and the public – fearful for their own safety.

Similarly, the occasional aggressiveness of BROWN BEARS means their growls are unlikely ever to resound in the wild in Scotland again.

It is thought they were wiped out in Britain by the 10th century.

Brown bears have been reintroduced to the Pyrenees and still live in some parts of eastern Europe.

WILD BOAR are less controversial. The National Farmers Union said it could be open to the idea of a reintroduction, if a trial showed they did not have a damaging environmental, ecological or social impact.

The animal was hunted out of Scotland in the 17th century. Some argue its rooting could help clear unwanted undergrowth.

SEA EAGLES, shot to extinction in 1918, have been reintroduced in Scotland, with 13 chicks imported from Norway last month to boost their numbers.

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  • Last Updated: 03 July 2008 12:52 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Scotindy,

Los Angeles 03/07/2008 00:48:04
I am in favour of the return of the Lynx to Scotland, we have far too many dear, and without a predetor around to at least keep them in check is folly.
2

Beth Boyle,

NY 03/07/2008 01:12:49
Lynx are very shy creatures and not a big threat to livestock. They mostly feed on rodents.
3

Guga II,

Rockall 03/07/2008 01:13:53
Who are these idiots that want to reintroduce things like wolves, and now lynx, to Scotland?

It's time someone told these people that Scotland is not a playground for tourists, the idle rich, foreigners and foreign landowners.

I'm quite sure that any crofter or farmer that saw the likes of lynx any where near their property, would shoot them; just as they do with mink or any other pests.

As for wild boars, reintroducing them would be very foolish. They be very dangerous. If a wild boar charges a person, they can be very difficult to stop. I've seen one shot by a 7.62mm round and still keep coming. It needed a blast from a shotgun loaded with 00 shot to bring it to a stop. In addition, they can and do smash their way through fences.

Scotland is far too small, and too well populated to bring back dangerous animals. If these idiots want to see them, they can take a trip to North America or similar.

4

Guga II,

Rockall 03/07/2008 01:17:05
#1 & #2. Neither of you live here, or try to make a living off the land. You can keep the likes of lynx for yourselves.

5

Thorson ,

Peterborough , Canada 03/07/2008 01:48:15
Rockall wrote

"Scotland is far too small, and too well populated to bring back dangerous animals. If these idiots want to see them, they can take a trip to North America or similar." Right on !

Just wait until the insurance claims start rolling in for property damaged by re-introducing these formerly wild animals. Last week we read that the re-introduction of beavers would be worth millions to tourism in Scotland but conveniently forgetting the equally large insurance claims which will arise from anyone who has their favourite tree gnawed down or other consequential damage.
Lawyers representing landowners in Scotland would do well to begin introducing themselves now to the legal instruments available under Scottish law for pursuing such claims.
Even the SNP who allowed these "re-wilders" to have their own way with Beavers should be held legally responsible for the resulting damage.
6

Tatties ower the side,

Johannesburg 03/07/2008 06:21:23
#5 Thorson

Re-wilders..... what a great word!
7

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03/07/2008 06:26:36
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Saoghal Beag,

03/07/2008 07:47:09
we'll need something to control the beaver population. as for controlling deer populations these are not tigers, they don't hunt in packs, they will have zero impact on deer populations. ofcourse we don't need to establish a uncontrolled beaver population.
9

Nell,

The Preservation Hall 03/07/2008 07:55:00
I dont think you can beat a nice beaver.
10

Black & White Triumph,

Greenhill road......soon 03/07/2008 08:06:31
Nell be careful not many have a sense of humour on here, is Lynx not a type of pussie?
11

Nell,

The Preservation Hall 03/07/2008 08:23:44
Black and White Triumph:- You're right. So Scotland could soon have loads of beavers and big hairy pussies.
Nothing much has changed really.
12

Slioch,

Scottish Highlands 03/07/2008 09:07:54
It is curious that one hears time and time again about the damage that beavers may do to trees. But this is confined to near the water, often results in coppicing (the shoots regrow from the ground) and results in a more varied habitat.

Roe deer, on the other hand, do enormous damage to young trees by thrashing them, thus removing the bark and killing or maiming them.

A riparian landowner wishing to establish broadleaved trees on his/her land would probably be better off with beavers rather than roe deer.

Lynx are solitary ambush hunters, particularly of roe deer. They are very shy and pose absolutely no threat to human beings.
13

Bejjy,

03/07/2008 09:08:21
#3 Guga II

Why are you not blaming this on The New Labour Sleaze and Corruption Party (North British Branch) as you regularly blame them for everything else that happens or has happened in Scotland.
14

Tweedmouth,

Coldstream 03/07/2008 09:40:26
Lynx are found in almost every mountainous part of Europe. If the introduction was tested on an island such as Rhum or in a big mountain area - such as the Cairngorms - it would be easy to test the practicality. The vast majority of their prey is rodents, rabbits, foxes, roe-deer etc. Compensation for sheep farmers would be easy to arrange if lambs were taken.

Wikipedia says:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasian_lynx
* Carpathian Mountains: About 2,800 lynxes live in this mountain range in the Czech Republic, Poland, Romania, Slovakia and Serbia.[4] It is the largest continuous Eurasian lynx population west of the Russian border.
o Romania: Most of the Carpathian population is found here, where numbers exceed 2,000, which is the largest population in Europe.[citation needed] Limited hunting is permitted but the population is stable.

* Balkan peninsula: In Serbia, Macedonia, Albania, Kosovo[citation needed] and Greece there are about 100 lynxes, the largest numbers in remote hills of Western Macedonia.[5]

* Britain: It was thought that lynx had died out in Britain either about 10,000 years ago, after the ice had retreated, or about 4,000 years ago, during cooler and wetter climate change. However, carbon dating of lynx skulls taken from the National Museums of Scotland and the Craven caves in North Yorkshire show they lived in Britain between 80 and 425 AD.[6]
15

Merchyboy,

Burgh 03/07/2008 09:50:12
I think t-rex used to kick about in our local park, could you please introduce them? they would be good for controlling the local vermin Nedus-annoyus.
16

Flash67,

Edinburgh 03/07/2008 10:10:56
The European Beaver has been found to be be beneficial to many species, including those under threat, by their ability to create 'glades' and ponds. Fish spawning sites are increased, invertebrate populations soar and woodland flowers flourish. They also have the potential to be of great benefit to the local economy as tourists come to see britains first beavers in hundreds of years. (nb - this species does not cause widespread damage to forestry, unlike its N American cousin, as the dams are smaller.) And in case there are many like the old codger in the Lords who said that the beaver would 'eat all the fish' - it is a vegetarian - the ponds are actually to grow it's own pond weed. In a sense, the beaver is a crofter too.
And don't get me starter on the wolf or lynx. We have removed ALL the apex predators in this country, with the subsequent explosion in deer numbers and damage to our remaining forests. Those who are ignorant of the biology of these animals, and who believe the 'little red riding hood' fairy-stories ignore the very real reintroduction success in other countries. eg wolves in USA - Biodiversity increased, tourism up and very little impact on domestic livestock. Compensation schemes for those farmers who ARE affected have worked well across Europe at minimal cost. Those who have mismanaged our countryside for generations and who still want to get rid of everything in the countryside (golden eagles, red kite, pine marten...) that isn't eatable or shootable should stay schtoom.
17

FLUB,

a rocky outcrop in eastern central Scotland 03/07/2008 10:15:12
The only lynx we need in Scotland come in the form of sausages...
18

Saoghal Beag,

03/07/2008 11:49:55
Flash67, my point is that we should not be introducing herbivores without apex carnivores, unctrolled populations of herbivores are not good as you point out.
19

Pazuzu,

03/07/2008 12:25:46
I for one would love to see forgotten wild animals roaming free in our highlands and the like again, I'm particulary interested in spotting a few beavers.

Ahem.

GGTTH
20

Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 03/07/2008 13:10:20
And a perfect spot for a beaver dam is on the Waters of Leith smack dab in the middle of the Botanical Gardens. A low gradient creek with lots of deciduous trees handy. Chew baby chew.
Come and see Edinburgh's finest beaver lodge and dam.
Hear the slap of McBucky's tail and the sweet sound of the botanical specimens crashing to the ground.
Because a beaver's work is never done.
Any one of those willowy, overgrown Midlothian burns is ideal habitat for beavers. Once established you might not like what you've got.

21

Jock MacTamson 2,

Highlands 03/07/2008 13:22:55
I can cope with beavers. But Bears, wolves No.

Lynx I am not convinced about. If they are never going to be seen what is the point of reintroducing them ?

As for the Deer problem there is plenty of people making money shooting these.
22

Saoghal Beag,

03/07/2008 13:47:50
perhaps we should not waste our resources on the introduction of new species and focus our limited funds on making the most of the ones we ahve left.
23

Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

03/07/2008 14:08:23
Leave these animals alone ffsake!....bring them back...aye right....then they are a problem so lets hunt them to extinction again...geezpeace....
24

Rab The Ranter,

Ayrshire 03/07/2008 17:04:44
#9
Well said, it have tasted it on many an occasion and found it to be quite uplifting.
25

Alistair Macintosh,

03/07/2008 17:06:39
I agree with #15, lets reintroduce a Ned eating carnivor. Train them to eat everyone wearing a white tracksuit, or a Burberry cap or ......
26

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03/07/2008 18:06:45
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Braes of Glenmiller,

On Beaver Patrol 03/07/2008 19:39:43
The European Beaver doesn't knaw down trees and build dams like the N American variety. They live happily in the marshes of the N German plain and Poland without decimating forests or causing any problems. They love drainage ditches and their eating of vegetation means that they are an ecological benefit to drainage and water table management.

As for lynxes, not sure. They are shy but predators. They may eat a lamb but would not go near an adult protecting her lamb, and wouldn't take on a Ram because they would lose.

Wolves and bears are not entirely practical but I think they would introduce Black European bears rather than the larger, more aggresive brown bear. Blakc bears live all over N America and N Europe and don't kill a lot of anything that we , in our post modern plastic world, value.

Wild Boar exist in their several thousand all over the S of England and they haven't killed anyone yet so they will be here eventually.....in fact there are several reports from Northumberland of them already.

We have had Ospreys back in the Borders/Northumberland for over 30 years, we have some Eagles, and we have Eagle Owls without any major issues except illegal poisoning of them.

We also had a healthy population of Hen Harriers but they got shot or poisoned so that the idle rich and their foreign guests could shoot grouse. And at the weekend we had a Red Kite...shot of course...but in every case the re- introduction of wildlife, accidental or otherwise has had a bigger economic benefit to ordinary people than the landowners who take a narrow minded conservative( with a small "c" and not related to conservation) landowners.
28

Calvinist,

03/07/2008 20:40:10
What about reintroducing the T.Rex?
29

WildTrak,

South 04/07/2008 00:12:13
The big laugh is that they're here in Britain already and doing ok thank you, which rather proves their livestock kills are negligible, that they are indeed shy and secretive, that the farmers and gamekeepers have nothing to fear, and conservationists haven't even noticed it. Ok so exotic pet owners and others have been irresponsible in letting it happen, but we don't control nature as much as we think we do.
30

Black & White Triumph,

Greenhill road....soon 04/07/2008 06:39:56
Is the Highland wildcat a relation or the same thing, we have had them for years and nobody worries,

Beavers would be great for lots of reasons
Bears well it would depend if they could be trained to attack terrorist training camps in remote areas
Wolves, same as bears
Lynxes, don't see why not as we already have wildcats i think
T-Rex eating neds, bring em back NOW!
I'm sure that at some stage of Scotland evolution we had ptetodactyls get them back to

 

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