Help Sitemap Home Skip Navigation Contact Us Disability Statement

 
 
Monday, 13th October 2008

Premium Article !

Your account has been frozen. For your available options click the below button.

Options

Premium Article !

To read this article in full you must have registered and have a Premium Content Subscription with the The Scotsman site.

Subscribe

Registered Article !

To read this article in full you must be registered with the site.

Drive to boost property market



Click on thumbnail to view image
Click on thumbnail to view image
Click on thumbnail to view image
Click on thumbnail to view image
Click on thumbnail to view image

Published Date: 21 July 2008
A NEW drive to get young Scottish homebuyers on the housing ladder by freeing up cash in their parents' and grandparents' homes will be launched in the retail market today.
The "Lifetimes" product was launched by Dunfermline building society in the intermediaries market earlier in the year, and the society says that the time is now right to extend it.

Lifetimes enable parents and grandparents to use their houses as
collateral as a way of raising funds to help provide deposits for their children.

The loan, with rolled up interest, is paid off when the elderly relatives pass away and their property is sold off.

Niall Fraser, the head of branch sales at Dunfermline building society, told The Scotsman: "Against the current market, this is a great way for parents or grandparents to help their family members get on to the housing ladder.

"It is a secure way to take cash out of assets when it is needed, for example to provide a deposit for a first home."

David Gibb, Dunfermline's national key account manager, added: "The Scottish mentality has traditionally been to get your final property and, when you pass on, to leave that to your children.

"But with many people living well into their 80s now, realistically a lot of their children are often in their 60s, so you would already have expected them to have made their way in life.

"Particularly in the current tough housing market, when it is very difficult indeed for young people trying to get on the housing ladder, surely it will make parents and grandparents feel better that they are helping their children to fulfil their housing aspirations now."

Dunfermline said it believed the Lifetime product was particularly relevant in the wake of the current bank lending crisis, when many mortgage lenders were demanding deposits of at least 20 per cent.

Gibb explained: "We believe it is an innovative way of freeing up money now for younger would-be homebuyers rather than them inheriting a property when they are a lot older."

The Lifetime mortgage is available to people aged 55 and older. The money released from the property can be taken as a lump sum or a combination of a lump sum and monthly income.

There are no restrictions on how the money released can be spent, says Dunfermline.



The full article contains 393 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
Page 1 of 1

 
1

doubtingthomas,

Berwick upon Tweed 21/07/2008 07:41:31
it is precisely this type of financing that has got the whole property market and the banking sector into the mess it is in today. If oa person cannot make their own way to buy their own home then they should not venture onto the property ladder where there can always be a rotten rung. Remember "snakes & ladders"?
2

ccc,

21/07/2008 09:23:30
Jeez........

How desperate can this get. Just leave the market be. It will do what it has to make it easier for younger people to buy their own home. Namely prices will come down to affrodable levels.

The lack of any common sense is astounding.
3

SS,

21/07/2008 09:50:41
This is staggering - As pointed out by #1 it is precisely this sort of financing that has got us into this mess.
4

ip,

edinburgh 21/07/2008 10:42:48
the estate agents have scored an own goal. They gave us all the bs about edinburgh being special and prices not dropping here. So sellers are not accepting lower prices, buyers are not getting credit (mortgages) and estate agents are not getting commission. Serves the liers right!
5

Wab,

Edinburgh 21/07/2008 13:37:13
Equity Release, to give it the correct title, has not caused the current problems and perhaps if the previous respondents care to actually research this on the Internet they will find out exactly what it is.It may come as a shock to them but now that we have all benefited from the increase in house prices, individuals can, if they so wish, raise money on their homes to give to their children or grand children to enable them to buy a property.

It may come as a shock but practically minded people quite like the idea of seeing their beneficiaries benefit from a gift whilst they are still alive as opposed to when they are worm food! Instead of sounding off about matters they do not understand perhaps people should know what they are talking about before posting nonsense on this site.

6

Jimmy Twoshoes,

21/07/2008 14:38:37
I'd echo the comments of Wab here.

I'd be interested to see how such a scheme would impact on IHT, and if the usual rules would apply. Can't see the Government letting any money slip through their fingers at present.
7

ccc,

21/07/2008 15:45:15
#5

"It may come as a shock to them but now that we have all benefited from the increase in house prices"

I think it is yourself who needs to do the reading up. Far more people lose out from high house prices than benefit. I won't even bother explaining it - as it is so self evident.

If someone can't save up for 10% of something they will be paying off for a quarter of a century - they are not in a position to buy it.

I have nothing against people leaving inheritance to their offspring. However the plan above is simply an attempt to keep house prices artifically high that will be to the detriment of most people.

I bet you these grandparents had to work to save up their first deposit for a house. Why should todays lazy "I want everything now" get away with being given it on a plate.

None of this posturing by the vested interests in the property market will have any effect. The market will bring house prices down to reasonable levels. Then people will find it easier to save up the required deposits. Everyone is a winner.
8

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

21/07/2008 18:24:13
"Equity Release, to give it the correct title, has not caused the current problems"

Perhaps not, but it has caused sufficient other problems for there to have been a government enquiry into regulating the whole business. It has led to some old people being put into a very difficult situation when they need to move (E.G when they require a house without stairs). Often the rolled-up loan makes such a move impossible because it must be settled when the house is sold, leaving too little to buy the necessary bungalow.

As others here have said, it smacks of the structured finance that has caused such trouble in the markets. It can also achieve little but encourage families into the housing market just at the point they'll lose a great deal of money by doing so.

Left to themselves, housing markets will adjust downwards to the point that people can again afford housing. Better, prices will adjust to where they can afford it with a 25% deposit that sensible banking requires.
9

easy money,

21/07/2008 19:48:50
aha, i see the usual prophets of doom (ccc and poo) are back again....when will these guys realise that there is no crash going on in Scotland and especially the capital....i know how desparate you guys are for hard working individuals to drop into negative equity but Edinburgh is special and it wont happen here...at worst in the bad areas (ghetto one bed flats) we'll see a 10% drop and for the rest its business as usual...this whole thing will blow over in two years and in ten years time a one bed flat in this city will be £200k....we should praise efforts of such banks who are trying to cash in for their own good but also help the FTB's before its too late....landlords quite simply need to hike up the rents for 24 months till the storm passes...there's no recession here guys - live with it.
10

ccc,

21/07/2008 21:01:20
Easy money - your fear is getting more and more obvious by the day. Why don't you actually listen to what we are telling you ? Landlords CANNOT simply hike rents. And as for your predictions you are wrong already.

One bed top floor flat in Gorgie at 99k already. Last year this would have sold for 125k easy.

http://www.espc.co.uk/Buying/264945.html

So that is a drop of 20% in nominal terms and 25% in real terms.....and this is only about 6 months into the bust.

You will realise one day that all your talk of Edinburgh 'being different' is ridiculous. For your own sake the sooner the better.
11

easy money,

21/07/2008 21:21:13
ccc, yes, indeed, lets look at Gorgie...its what i decribed as one of the ghetto areas of the city and will be the first to suffer...its still however a good FTB area...if its going for £99k its propably got a dodogy roof with a statute for £1000's over it - tennement flats in this are to be avoided and a good surveyor needed if your desparate enough to buy a flat like this. If he got £99k for it last year i think the seller would have been quite pleased - we're talking about Gorgie here for goodness sake!

Lets look at a good area like Cramond and the one bed flat that sold for £218k 8 weeks ago - property in good areas will always sell for a good price. Property in bad areas will suffer first.

Edinburgh is special ccc and you need to come to terms with it - trade up from your caravan now before its too late - 2010 will see the prices rise again.

Landlords are already pushing up rents and quite rightly so...somebody has to pay for this mess and sh*t rolls downhill im afraid....



12

ccc,

21/07/2008 21:54:31
Gorgie is a 'ghetto'.....

Strange that all I have been hearing about this area for years is how 'up and coming' it is.

Why do you cling with this obsession with one flat that sold in Cramond ? Seriously I would be interested to know.

Do a search on ESPC of 'Cramond'.

22 properties up for sale.
9 at fixed price.
1 at a 'FURTHER REDUCTION'.

Doesn't sound like an area where their 'good prices' are selling. So that means they have to fall. Which in turn goes against your flawed logic.

Why don't you do a little research on 'nice' areas that won't be as badly affected. I give you Florida and California as examples.

Enjoy your research. :)

13

easy money,

22/07/2008 06:46:52
ccc - property in good areas will always get their price - end of story.

- in ten years time a one bed flat in the capital will be £200k
- in 2 years time this economic crisis will be behind us and prices will edge up again
- Edinburgh is unique and will survive this little storm in a teacup

Probably best if go and live in Bradford or Liverpool where it sounds like you may find some property more suited to your budget. Edinburgh cannot be afforded by the masses and nor it should - quality comes at a price. Watch the FTB's crawl out the woodwork when they realise that people like you have led them to believe there will be some kind of crash here....shame on you.
14

easy money,

22/07/2008 07:40:26
ccc - a family i know who are looking to relocate to Skye - on the part of the island they want to live there are very few properties for sale but when they do come up (and one did recently) there was over 20 notes of interest...now listen to what im telling you - property in good areas will always sell for a good price and thats just a fact.

15

ccc,

22/07/2008 09:33:21
"ccc - property in good areas will always get their price - end of story"

Well clearly not. Are you just going to ignore my examples in your favourite 'good' area of Cramond ? Do you have the ability to reply to a point rather than just spout out your desperate nonsense ?

Cramond = Nice area = agreed by you = houses not selling = YOU ARE WRONG.

End of story. :)
16

easy money,

23/07/2008 09:49:53
ccc - a family i know who are looking to relocate to Skye - on the part of the island they want to live there are very few properties for sale but when they do come up (and one did recently) there was over 20 notes of interest...now listen to what im telling you - property in good areas will always sell for a good price and thats just a fact.
17

easy money,

23/07/2008 09:56:55
ccc - Edinburgh is special...

for those who have the means to live in any of the the good areas in Edinburgh where schools are in demand i dont think your point of view would go very far - you're out of touch and if you actually spent some time doing your research in these areas you'll find the demannd is still very high.....the grubby ghetto flats you refer to are ten a penny.

In ten years time a one bed flat in Edinburgh will be £200k
18

Lord_S,

Edinburgh 23/07/2008 10:41:16
Edinburgh IS NOT special! Have you ever been out of Edinburgh? Edinburgh is potentially the most overrated city in the world, being little more than a massive ring of desolate council schemes circling the city centre. The job market is awful, the weather is terrible, the social problems are beyond repair, and the quality of housing is about the worst I've ever seen. House prices will fall here!
19

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

23/07/2008 19:54:05
Mortgage volumes down again I see.
20

duelay no more,

Australia 29/08/2008 12:03:54
The property market cannot in my opinion be boosted artificially. It is not until each pricing level of the market is perceived to have as many buyers as sellers, that equilibrium will be restored.

This situation is probably cyclical, and although one may countenance a drop of maybe 10-15%, or even 20%, there will come a time, when the market will rebound again and the skinnydippers will still be waiting for better circumstances.

As someone much younger - but wiser than me has said,
" You need to have line in the water, to catch a fish".

So the discussion is really about timing rather than social angst. If you want a Ferrari.... and you can finance it...then go get it.!! When you're 60 you won't be able to get in and out of one anyway. Same with housing, but the difference is that a Ferrari is guaranteed to go down in value almost every year until its about 20 years old.

Conversely you could forgoe the home cooked dinner and TV with boring old Mum and Dad, to go to the pub with pals, eat out, with another mince pie and chips on the way home, and a 4 pack of Tennants as a consolation prize. That'll get you closer to financial independence..sure it will.

 

Comment on this Story

 

In order to post comments you must Register or Sign In

 
 
 
  

 
 

Today's Vote

Is it a good idea for builders to offer incentives to first-time buyers?
Yes, it gives them the chance to get on the property ladder.
It helps, but they’ll struggle to get a decent mortgage rate.
No, first-time buyers should wait for the crisis to pass.

Featured Advertising



Sister Newspapers:
Press Complaints Commission

This website and its associated newspaper adheres to the Press Complaints Commission’s Code of Practice. If you have a complaint about editorial content which relates to inaccuracy or intrusion, then contact the Editor by clicking here.

If you remain dissatisfied with the response provided then you can contact the PCC by clicking here.