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Published Date:
27 July 2006
MORE than 100 drivers a week are being hit with fines by Lothian and Borders Police for using mobile phones behind the wheel.
Senior officers today revealed a massive surge in the number of motorists caught flouting the law during the last year.

A total of 3364 drivers were fined during the past eight months alone as police officers crack down on the offence with £30 on-the-spot fines.

But the force's traffic chiefs today admitted that the current penalty was not enough to deter people who continue to ignore the ban.

Chief Inspector Kenny Buchanan, of the road policing branch, said that only the new penalty of three penalty points and a £60 fine, which is expected to come into force later this year, was likely to halt the rise.

Between December 2003 and October last year, 3400 drivers were hit with fines for using their mobile phones - around 150 a month.

The latest figures show that the numbers have nearly trebled as police chiefs stepped up their enforcement campaign.

The increase was revealed as police officers yesterday mounted their latest blitz against offenders.

The 24-hour clampdown, which ended at 7am today, saw another 24 drivers collared after being spotted on their phones.

Teams of officers in unmarked cars and motorcycles were deployed throughout the force area, with lorry and van drivers among those caught.

Chief Insp Buchanan said his officers would continue to take a tough approach but added that heavier penalties were needed to deter repeat offenders.

He added: "Unfortunately, until it becomes a £60 fine and three penalty points then some people will continue to ignore the law.

"At the moment £30 is ridiculously low and it's not acting as enough of a deterrent.

"The big difference will come when the first driver is pushed over the limit and disqualified when the new points system comes in. Until then we'll just have to keep hammering away because they are creating a danger on the roads."

Sue Nicholson, campaigns chief with the RAC, said: "It doesn't seem that the message is getting through.

"The new penalties will make a difference.

"But I don't believe it will ever be fully stamped out.

"The perception some people have is that they are likely to get away with it.

"They also don't seem to understand the safety issues. It leaves the driver not only physically impaired as they hold the phone but distracted mentally as they talk."

Yesterday's clampdown was sparked by last week's web chat with Superintendent Phil O'Kane on road policing issues, which saw members of the public asking a flood of questions about mobile phone use.

Inspector Andy Clark, of the road policing branch, said: "Probably half the number of questions we received on the web chat related to mobile phones. There is clearly a public concern about the dangers of driving while using a mobile.

"That's why we decided to hold a 24-hour operation to concentrate on this offence. We wanted to show our commitment to stopping people from flouting the law."

Some motorists happy to continue flouting law


DRIVERS are still willing to risk a £30 fine in order to use their mobile phones behind the wheel, judging by the experience of police on the city's streets yesterday.

Pc Sandy Sturrock and Pc Steven Fraser were unsurprised by the attitude of some drivers they caught.

One lorry driver, who was spotted using his mobile while driving along Ferry Road at 11.45am, told the Evening News: "I know it's against the law but I've done it before and I'll do it again. This is my second fine, but £30 is still cheaper than getting a hands-free kit."

The patrol then caught a DHL delivery van driver on Bernard Street at 12.20pm.

The driver said: "It was a call from my work and there is pressure to answer. I'll try not to do it but in the same situation tomorrow I'd probably do it again."

Pc Fraser said: "That's the attitude we're often up against."

The full article contains 706 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 27 July 2006 10:01 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Mobile phone driving ban
 
1

Paul,

Edinburgh 27/07/2006 11:13:24

The fines should be a lot heavier for people who break this law. It is, in my opinion, ignorant to either phone someone or answer a call when driving.

I will be glad once the new fine of £60 and 3 penalty points comes into force. This will hopefully stop people using them. If it doesn't stop some individuals, then they will lose their licence. This may well teach them that laws are in place to improve road safety.

2

Grumpy,

Edinburgh 27/07/2006 11:34:47

Why not double the penalty each time someone re-offends - i.e. second offence £60 + 3 points, third offence £120 + 6 points. And the argument that the fine is cheaper than a hands-free kit is rubbish. You can buy them on E-Bay for £30. But why is it that so many "Executive car" drivers do not use hands-free - can they not afford the extra £100 on top of the £25,000 they've just spent on their new car?

3

Darren - wdpics.com,

Edinburgh 27/07/2006 11:37:23

is it ok for me to use ma radio or tetra unit behind the wheel? after all, the police do it, so i should beable to aswell - and for those who dont know, tetra is both a radio and mobile phone......

there cant be a rule for one and a rule for another.......

4

JUNE,

Scottish Borders 27/07/2006 11:42:44

I fully agree with Ken ....I have even seen the bus drivers useing their mobile phone whilst driving the bus with passages in

5

The Facts,

Edinburgh 27/07/2006 11:43:55

Darren
Grow up. The police require to use their comms equipment.

Maybe your just one of these exceedingly clever guys who can phone, text, drive over 40mph in town and no doubt do so with a few bevvies in you as the drink doesn't effect you?

If you can't drive in accordance with the rules that exist, sell your car

6

JUNE,

Scottish Borders 27/07/2006 11:45:04

You had better ask the police about that

7

V5,

Edinburgh 27/07/2006 12:22:15

It's great that the police are clamping down on motorists using mobile phones- but isn't it about time that smoking whilst driving was banned too?

8

Dave,

Western Isles 27/07/2006 12:29:50

Val

Do you listen to mucis in your car? In particular, cd's or tapes?

9

Dave,

Western Isles 27/07/2006 12:30:08

Sorry, music, not mucis!

10

Hello Loonies!,

Edinburgh 27/07/2006 12:30:28

Hey Doug, your response stinks! How many casualties were there last year who's cause of death could be put down to being knocked over by the police/emergency services on their way to a call out and using excessive speed? Exactly mate, don't bother giving poor old Darren a hard time when he is making a valid point, one rule for us and most certainly one rule for the police.

11

The Facts,

Edinburgh 27/07/2006 12:33:43

Kay
When its you lying in the road waiting on the ambulance or police, I suppose you won't mind waiting another few minutes as they pull over and stop to answer their phones to get the precise details of their destination??

12

Darren - wdpics.com,

Edinburgh 27/07/2006 12:38:28

Doug - what you have just said is that i can call and text at the same time, which is impossible as you cant do this, also, you have just said i drink drive, which as i dont even drink alcahol, is impossible. As for driving at over 40mph - who said anything about speed? it does not matter if it is at 10mph or 70mph!

Thankyou kay - atleast you got what i was trying to aim my point at - the fact that the police have caused just as much accidents in their time.

Yes, they have to have their comms as doug put it, but at the end of the day, they SHOULD use the handsfree bluetooth kit that is installed in every car, also, the MTH800 they use has this feature so they cant say they cant use it.

The police cant have one rule, and we go with another... its the same with parking, they stop on a double yellow line to tell you you are parked on a SINGLE yellow line, also they park on zig zags etc....

13

V5,

Edinburgh 27/07/2006 12:38:46

Dave

What's your point?

14

Darren - wdpics.com,

Edinburgh 27/07/2006 12:40:12

"Kay
When its you lying in the road waiting on the ambulance or police"

Doug, ok - why would kay be lying in the road waiting on the police? - as for ambulance, well, as there are 2 paramedics in each rig, the passanger ALWAYS uses the radio and not the driver - as is the rules by the SAS for saftey!

15

Forever Scott,

Massachusetts, USA 27/07/2006 12:46:35

I agree that cell phone use while activlly driving a motor vehicle should be banned. The use of a "hands-free" device in an emergency, helps. Do what I do. In the car, my cell phone is OFF. Anyone who wishes to talk to me can leave a voice-mail and I will phone them back when I get to where I'm going.
Hands-free devices are available here in the US for as little as $12.00 at several stores.(~6.5UKP). Even I can afford that!
You want to observe REAL stupidity, go to Paris and watch motor bike riders speeding thru downtown, a coffee in one hand and a cell phone in the other while negotiating thru a 6 way intersection, at rush hour! I have seen it myself.
Greetings to all my friends in my adopted hometown of Edinburgh. See you in December.

16

Bored,

27/07/2006 13:04:17

Talking on the mobile phone was supposed to be distracting for the driver hence it was banned. I fully agree with that and it should be enforced. But at least the eyes of the driver were generally on the road in front of them. However, how many times have you followed a car where the driver is so obviously talking to the passenger because they actually turn their head round and face that person, for an extended period of time, while they say their piece. Next time you see this, give that driver plenty of room because they are guaranteed to miss something.

17

The Facts,

Edinburgh 27/07/2006 13:08:08

Darren

Great to see what grasp on the real world that you have. If you have never winessed an RTA or fatality, then you probably won't understand the requirement for police attendance.

Why don't you just admit that you only want to have a dig at the "Polis" for being able to use their phones?

18

AB_R,

Edinburgh 27/07/2006 13:13:58

now if they would only do something about those bl00dy cyclists on the pavements.

19

Dave,

Western Isles 27/07/2006 13:23:03

Val

It's a distraction, that's the point. You take your eye off the road for a second to light a fag just as you take your eye off the road for a second to change a cd or channel on your radio.

At some point you take you hand/eye off the wheel/road? ok?

Before you state something like, but fag smokers have a hand off the wheel for many minutes while they smoke - well yes and no. You still can grasp a steering wheel with both hands with a fag between your fingers. Most drivers I see on the roads don't put both hands on the steering wheel anyways.

And what about that lady down in England that got fined for eating an apple or the guy fined for eating a kit kat? I suppose you want eating in a car banned too? Be as well banning passengers and kids too as they can lead to distractiosn as well.

See my point now?

20

Darren - wdpics.com,

Edinburgh 27/07/2006 13:31:06

infact doug - i have seen a few RTA's and couple of them have been bad - and no, im not having a go at the "polis" as you say - but infact am questioning the way they have went about trying to punish motorists for exactly the same things as they do.

What i am also trying to say is, instead of them preeching to us what we should do, they should aswell - as i said MTH800 has bluetooth installed in the radio, so they can easily use bluetooth themself to STOP this "the police do it so i can to" argument.

I DO agree with the story that people should be punished but i DONT agree with the fact that the police are not showing a good example!

Doug - can you remember, when you were a child, and your mum would tell you to show a good example to your younger sibling or to a younger person? - well the police should do that with us.

Also, i notice you have commneted on my other post - lost for words? - end of the day, this is my POINT OF VIEW, least kay understands what i mean

21

Darren - wdpics.com,

Edinburgh 27/07/2006 16:29:43

actualy - i think that the penalty should also go on the type of vehicle. ie it shoudnt be a £60 fine for a lada and a £60 for a porsche.

should be a certain percentage of the vehicle cost - ie those who drive a high priced car can afford to spend another high price fine - same with cheaper cars and those who cant afford to pay much but there has to be a bottom line of say £200

22

pedro,

27/07/2006 18:14:54

Police (along with other emergency services) are permitted under the Road Traffic Act to use their radio communication equipment whilst driving. All cars have PTT buttons installed for use of the radios and their personal radios have earpieces and have PTT too so are effectively hands free. Most forces will have procedures which do not permit use of mobile phones unless they are hands free.

As far as I am aware the police radios do not have a bluetooth capability at present. Their ear pieces are wired ones.

In an emergency situation (dialling 999) anyone can use their phone whilst driving.

23

blackley,

West Edinburgh 27/07/2006 18:40:03

Everybody needs to wake up using both roads and pavements. It's a very dangerous environment.

24

Cant use my name anymore-Alex,

Prisoner of the MACHINE 27/07/2006 18:47:14

What a kerfuffle as they say and the most amazing thng of all its that the article relates to motoring and none of the comments yet have had a little anti 4x4 slant as I though compulsory for at least one comment. It seems reasonable that using a mobile phone while driving might distract a driver from the task in hand and that maybe its best not to do it, but if its so dangerous, how come such a massive volume of motorists are clearly doing it and yet there is no corresponding carnage on the streets. Perhaps the feeble human mind is capable of managing both tasks simultaneously after all theres a few folks about who can apparently walk and chew gum at the same time without incident. When did people stop thinking for themselves. At which point did a politician or senior policeman just have to say it to make it true and when did fines become the universal panacea. Cant you give them an ASBO instead, they seem to be the latest hot ticket for curing society ills. If all this fining works how come revenue from parking fines is increasing? How come lots of other crime is increasing.

25

Anon,

South East Scotland 27/07/2006 19:33:28

Mobile phones and hand free phones should be banned in ALL vehicles.....as the drivers are too busy listening to them instead of watching the roads and people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

26

Andrew,

27/07/2006 19:51:13

AND what about the 1000s who light up and smoke whilst driving? This is equally "driving without due care and attention" with one hand on wheel, one hand on fag!!

27

Andrew,

27/07/2006 19:56:21

Alex 18. Have you ever thought that those "bl00dy cyclist" are probably on the pavement to avoid the mobile phone-using/smoking drivers WHO DON'T EVEN SEE THEM?????

28

Andrew,

27/07/2006 20:02:45

I agree Andrew. Even where there are proper, dedicated cycle lanes, mobile using drivers (eg) pull in to the kerb - blocking the lane, cut you off at junctions, cross in front of you, etc etc PUTTING YOUR LIFE IN REAL DANGER - without ever REALISING YOU'RE THERE!!!

29

Mr Sensible,

27/07/2006 20:10:59

Curious to note that the police are not slagged off rotten because they are enforcing rules and regulations,yet a parking attendant is.

Bottom line is people,we have another example of society totally ignorant of a law intended to improve road safety and then squell like stuffed pigs when caught.

Personally I would publish a photograph and name of said culprits to shame them.

30

Andrew,

27/07/2006 20:27:01

To 31 "A well informed person", pigs "squeal" when stuffed!!

31

Not available,

Edinburgh 27/07/2006 21:59:12

What about all the thousands the police don't catch including those whop drive past the police on their own. There is nothing they can do in this situation.

32

Diane,

Gorgie 28/07/2006 07:38:02

I do a fair amount of driving with my job. When I was learning to drive my father gave me one valuable piece of advice. It was drive as though every other driver is an idiot. This has help me avoid being sideswiped on several occations by people blethering on their phones while driving. Also, I have notices a couple of cyclists over the last few weeks on the main road and on their mobiles. Accident waiting to happen or what?

33

desparate,

Edinburgh 28/07/2006 09:22:08

Yes the novelty has worn off as far as mobile phones are concerned I saw three motorsits driving while phoning yesterday in the space of 10 mins in East London Street, one trying to negotiate the roundabout at Annandale street with great difficulty. I watched in horror and tried to guess which street she was aiming for.
I'm thinking of walking on the road soon as the pavement is too busy with cyclists.!!

34

Outjalie,

Edinburgh 28/07/2006 10:45:57

The article was about drivers of motor vehicles using their mobiles. Most police cars are manned by 2 officers one usually doing the driving while the other is on the radio or phone.
I see many people using their mobiles while driving. 100 tickets a week is far little. give me a fine book and I'll get 100 a day at the gogar roundabout easily.

It is not only "execs" not using hands free kits - most offenders I see are in cars 1 MOT from the scrapheap- also with "bairn on board" in the window!

I do not condone cycling on the pavement but the result of an accident between a cyclist and a pedestrian is unlikely to be fatal, if the roads were policed extensively cyclists would have no excuse for using the pavement.


 

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