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'Thousands will object to homes' at Meadowbank



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Published Date: 18 March 2008
CAMPAIGNERS today warned the city council to expect thousands of public objections to plans to build homes on the site of Meadowbank Stadium.
Fears were raised that an influx of new residents to the area will lead to traffic congestion and put pressure on local schools.

Green councillors opposed to the sale of land at Meadowbank say there will be calls for a public inquiry – echoing the level of objection to the Caltongate scheme.

But development experts say the land – which the city council expects to sell for around £17 million – will attract interest from across the UK, with scope for hundreds of flats and family homes.

Last week, councillors voted to demolish the existing Meadowbank Stadium, sell off a third of the land and build new – but fewer – facilities at a cost of £25m.

But Green councillor Alison Johnstone, a former athlete, said: "There will be hundreds, if not thousands, of objections to a housing development, and we would back calls for a public inquiry.

"There are concerns about increased traffic congestion and the impact on local schools."

Cllr Johnstone says she hopes for a "real focus" on better maintenance of Edinburgh's sports facilities . "These are public assets and I hope this will be the last time we are looking at this kind of scenario," she said.

Athletics coach Bill Walker, a leading figure in the Save Meadowbank Campaign, added: "They are building a town the size of Falkirk (at the Waterfront), and there are lots of other areas close by earmarked for housing.

"There's already a huge amount of housing planned, but this means we are going to lose sports facilities. That would be a disaster."

But Jason Hogg, director of development land at property firm Jones Lang LaSalle, said: "Despite a slowdown in the housing market, sites in traditionally good parts of Edinburgh such as Meadowbank would continue to do well.

"I expect several hundred homes could be built on the site," he said.

A city council spokesman said: "Councillors agreed that any funds raised from land sold should be reinvested in new sports facilities at Meadowbank. The retention of the whole site wouldn't allow us to build the quality facilities that Edinburgh needs. The approach agreed at Thursday's meeting will allow us to develop a top quality sports centre."

www.savemeadowbank.com


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  • Last Updated: 18 March 2008 2:09 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Meadowbank
 
1

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

18/03/2008 12:18:25
There will be no "family homes" here. Lots and lots of one or two soulless flats.

Good luck Alison, once it's gone its gone for ever.
2

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

18/03/2008 12:18:43
"one or two ..bedroom"
3

bluehead,

edinburgh 18/03/2008 12:23:45
the powers that be will not be happy untill they have destroyed edinburgh,this city is already a cross between a concrete jungle and a gigantic human sardine tin,the area of meadowbank stadium is aready overcrowded, the very idea of building of all these houses which brings cars, etc, piles disgrace upon disgrace
edinburgh is full up,let them build houses else where,tell people to go else where, I feel sad to see
my city of edinburgh being destroyed like this.
between this madness and the maniacal tram system,which in my opinion brings the disgrace of scotland down from calton hill and places it in our streets,
edinburgh was once a lovely place to live in., it is fast becoming a dump


4

abcd1234,

Edinburgh 18/03/2008 12:38:58
bluehead

you echo my sentiments entirely. All public assets sold off to keep on building and building with no apprent end in sight.

Edinburgh and quality of life, an oxymoron surely?
5

Optimus Prime,

Megatron 18/03/2008 12:44:55
Meadowbank is a crumbling dump anyway. What is so wrong with a new modern mixed use development incorporating housing needs and a new modern sporting facility?
6

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

18/03/2008 12:49:30
5. For the last time, why was it allowed to become a crumbling dump ? Why did our council not look after it ?

Use your head man. It's a sad day.
7

Furious,

Edinburgh 18/03/2008 12:49:45
Oh God not more bloody houses. The funny thing is that they keep saying affordable housing. Only if you are on benefits.
Good luck to Glasgow because at this rate the CAPITAL CITY of SCOTLAND will have inadequate or no sports facilities. This Council and previous Councils should be looking to the future. Not only will there be no sports facilities but the City will no longer be able to hold major sporting events. Oh forgot they've got all their festivals tho. Good for the toursts but to hell with the people who live here. George Stewarts the printers across from Meadowbank is shut so that's likely to be AFFORDABLE housing as well then.
What will be at Meadowbank??? Oh maybe a GYM that will be open to those who can afford to pay a monthly/annual membership. No ad hoc training facilities then?? Nothing for kids?? What about people who have played football there for many many years??? Where will they go. The Pitz will be sold off in the future. Maybe they could play football at little BEIRUT aka the Jack Kane Centre. There is going to be no sporting facilities in the East of the City.
Shame on this Council and MY local Councillor who was all for selling Meadowbank until his Labour group were voted out. Funny how he has changed his tune now when its too late.
8

Optimus Prime,

Megatron 18/03/2008 12:52:48
It's a crumbling dump because it is/was an unsustainable white elephant built for the purpose of one event which fortunatley became two over twenty years ago.

Happy to hear VIABLE alternatives though.
9

Bishop Boyne,

Loanhead 18/03/2008 13:06:30
8. - you are obviously the person who attends the athletics track every Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday or the football/ hockey pitches every night till 10pm etc.. The only white elephant here is the councils comment re - reinvesting in new sporting facilities for the people.
10

betty you can call me al,

Edinburgh 18/03/2008 13:07:02
#1 spot on. It wont be family housing, it'll be cramped shoe box flats.

Yip, Edinburgh needs more flats because it's not overpopulated enough. Perhaps the council could start congestion charging new builds. They'd make a fortune - woops, sorry...they make a fortune already from all the broon envelopes pushed to get these developments approved.

Take away/reduce the amenities available to youngsters then wonder why they hang around outside the chippies getting bladdered and kicking little dogs to death.
11

Annoyingboi,

Emptybra 18/03/2008 13:23:52
Ye'd think they'd want tae keep some venues for music and the like in embra. Naw dinna be daft, lets sell aff everything wi hev and beeld mare hooses. Whit fir? Aww the FinServ joabs are gawin noo onywaiy

Embra cooncil are a bunch o numpties
12

paul the binman,

18/03/2008 13:38:12
Hundreds of thousands more could'nt give a damb,just as long as we dont have to fork out from our council taxes to pay for this white elephant.After all,where are the crowds of people who go to it and pay to use it huh...Did'nt it once have a football team that the locals did'nt turn out for too
13

Martin 2,

Edinburgh 18/03/2008 13:38:44
The full size grass football pitch at Lochend above Meadowbank has already been sold and developed - now the 3 7-a-side outdoor pitches at Meadowbank are to go.

The council states it has no money - I think a proper efficiency review would find quite a number of surplus posts / poor practice.

There is a constant battle to keep Leith Waterworld open even on a limited basis. If the city really wants to get healthier then it seems to be doing somthing wrong.

North Leith and East Edinburgh have little enough amenities as it is.
14

Optimus Prime,

Megatron 18/03/2008 13:48:32
#9 I'm sure your new scaled down facility will still include the athletics track, football and hockey pitches. Just not the thousands of empty seats that never ever get used.
15

DAVID,

Edinburgh 18/03/2008 13:54:02
Two points.

1) It doesn't matter how many people object and complain, their viewpoints will be overruled and ignored by the morons in the Council. And I include both staff and councillors in that statement - their ignorance, lack of vision and general lack of empathy for the people who pay their wages is quite staggering.

2) I often hear and read about politicians complaining about private schools and their privileged position as owners of prime sporting facilities not enjoyed by the publicly funded schools system. Is it any wonder if successive Councils across the country are steadily selling off prime assets like Meadowbank (and Portobello golf course, and others) and failing to replac them with good alternative facilities.

It's no wonder private schools have more sporting facilities than council-owned schools - the councils have been selling off playing fields and spare land for years to build things on! Idiots.
16

Giraffe,

Edinburgh 18/03/2008 13:54:11
It's about time the people of Meadowbank got over themselves. Do they think they are some elite people who deserve this stadium all for themselves. The new stadium would bring the sporting facilities up to scratch not like the embarrassing dump that Meadowbank Stadium has become. It doesn't matter now that it has been left to ruins, the fact is it is ruined. What about the rest of Edinburgh who only have a small sports centre and who have to travel to Meadowbank - what's the difference if its the other side of town. Things change, imagine if nothing ever did, the world would be worse than what it is now. So what if houses are built, Edinburgh does need them, that's a fact too.
17

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

18/03/2008 13:55:43
16 you are waffling with little direction or logicality.
18

Tuppenceworth,

edinburgh 18/03/2008 13:58:06
#12 – The only white elephant is you, ya dumbo. Meadowbank IS used by thousands every week. From toddlers up to pensioner's and aspiring athletes in-between. If the whole site is retained then there is potential for it to be developed into a world-class facility. Sell it off and it's gone forever.

"But I'd be done see'n about everything
when an Edinburgh Councillor don't lie."
19

Giraffe,

Edinburgh 18/03/2008 13:59:03
17 - am just sick of hearing about Meadowbank, I used to work there and it is so 70's, baltic and badly needing demolished, nothing works, the only thing they upgraded was the entrance to make it look good. I just think they should get over it.
20

Giraffe,

Edinburgh 18/03/2008 14:00:31
And if there are so many thousands who use the stadium them am sure if they are that committed to their sport they will go wherever needs be and stop chucking their dummy out the pram. They will be able to get the tram to the new stadium.
21

Optimus Prime,

Megatron 18/03/2008 14:11:51
#18

Not desputing that thousands of people use it. Just that the seating areas are never used and thus a waste of space. The facility should have been scaled down years ago. What's London doing with it's Olympic stadium after the event, what's Glasgow doing with it's after the Commonwealth games? Both are being scaled down to a practical useable level.
22

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

18/03/2008 14:14:32
Okay, so as long as you know that Edinburgh will not be able to stage any field or track events , any cycling events , infact anything athletics wise of a meaningful standard for the forseeable future.

No commonwealth games - certainly no Olympics and our youth will have to go elsewhere (gateshead ? Glasgow ? ) in order to sustain their ambitions.

Nice one. I'm glad you are all so chuffed about this.
23

Tuppenceworth,

edinburgh 18/03/2008 14:16:28
#21 Nobody is saying that it's 100% fit for purpose – it clearly isn't.
Council plan – demolish the existing Meadowbank Stadium, sell off a third of the land and build new – but fewer – facilities.
Then allow hundreds of new flats to be built next door to new sports facilities.
Meadowbank is busy every night of the week – despite it's current condition.
Over 1000 new flats already built nearby at Lochend, Hibs ground, Hawkhill.
Meadowbank is getting busier as it stands.
It doesn't take Nostradamus to predict that we will need MORE sports facilities in the near future, not LESS.
Potential – showing the capacity to become or to develop into something in the future.
If any of the land is sold for housing then there will NEVER be scope to develop it for sporting/leisure use in the future.
24

jdships,

! 18/03/2008 14:30:50
3 bluehead,edinburgh

First class post - agree with all you say !!

Council should remember you can only sell the family silver once - end of

12 paul the binman,

Suggest you get your head out of your bin and go along and see for yourself how many people , of all ages. that do actually use it

8 Optimus Prime,
Just go along one evening and see for your self you can then come back and say sorry I didn't realise.
25

Optimus Prime,

18/03/2008 14:33:25
#22

You can rest assured that if Edinburgh was serious about hosting any major sporting events then Meadowbank would not be close to being part of it anyway.

The fact you have even mentioned Edinburgh in connection with hosting an event such as the Olympics really shows how out of touch you are with the facilities required to hold an event of such magnitude.
26

Optimus Prime,

18/03/2008 14:37:44
#24

I used to play football twice a week on their out of date 80's astroturf pitch. I now play at a more modern facilty.

I'm not advocating the closure of sports facilites but i can see the merit in this as the current set up is out of date. A third of the land is probably the amount of space taken up by unused stands. The rest will be turned in to a modern sporting facility.
27

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18/03/2008 14:38:17
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28

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

18/03/2008 14:40:41
26 Feel free to share these plans which you obviuosly have some access to or are you just talking out your airse ?

Do you know what facilities will be available on this new site ?
29

Optimus Prime,

Megatron 18/03/2008 14:50:10
#25

Language now!

You are saying that Edinburgh won't be able to host major sporting events such as the commonwealth games/olympics if this goes ahead. I'm saying that if Edinburgh ever did decide to bid for such events then Meadowbank would not be fit for purpose even in a redeveloped capacity. The facilities and infrastructure required for such events has move on dramatically since the 1970's/80's.
30

Optimus Prime,

Megatron 18/03/2008 14:54:26
#28

I don't have access to any plans but a inkling of common sense would tell you that a new facility would more than likely have up to date facilites compared to the current out of date set up.
31

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

18/03/2008 15:01:00
well i hope so. I'm past arguing. A redeveloped Meadowbank would have been quite capable of hosting a commonwealth games in my opinion so I have to disagreee with you there.
32

Optimus Prime,

18/03/2008 15:17:25
#31

Just to put some prespective on the situation for you.

1970 Commonwealth Games (Edinburgh)
Participating Nations: 42
Athletes: 1,744
Sports: 10
Capacity of main stadium: 16,500

1986 Commonwealth Games (Edinburgh)
Participating Nations: 27
Athletes: 1,660
Sports: 10
Capacity of main stadium: 16,500

2002 Commonwealth Games (Manchester)
Participating Nations: 72
Athletes: 3,863
Sports: 17
Capacity of main stadium: 55,000

2006 Commonwealth Games (Melbourne)
Participating Nations: 71
Athletes: 4,500
Sports: 16
Capacity of main stadium: 100,000
33

Mallory,

Edinburgh 18/03/2008 15:18:00
Bluehead #3
We - the electors - are the powers that be NOT our paid employees at the council offices.

As planning officials have recommended some incredibly bad decisions over recent years, we should be questioning their expertise and whether part time workers have been given proper support and resources by councillors which enable them to stand up to developers who care little for our city.



34

Ecco Warrier,

Embra. 18/03/2008 15:39:26

Build the new stadium at Sighthill.
Put my name down for a flat with a balcony.
35

SPG,

edinburgh 18/03/2008 16:11:08
Hey look everybody, Mallory still thinks we have any say over our uber council. What a jerk.
36

Johnny Yen,

18/03/2008 16:53:50
The council won't worry about the objections, as long as the brown paper bags keep coming from the developers all objections will be ignored. ££££Kaa-ching
37

Davie Lad,

Edinburgh 18/03/2008 20:28:14
This place was a dump anyway. Bulldoze it fast please. Houses are popping up all over Edinburgh without public consultation. So why not in this area too? The locals need to get real.
38

AndrewS,

Edinburgh 18/03/2008 21:20:58
Thankfully, a collapsing economy may save us from more of these disastrous plans. Anyone who thinks that people want sports facilities should stand on Princes Street observing the fat, cigarette smoking population of Edinburgh, most of which couldn't run to cat a bus to a pub.
39

Casual contributor,

Edinburgh 18/03/2008 23:02:25
Who are all you paranoid people who seem to think that every planning application gets through on the back of a brown envelope and everyone who works for the council is a cretin? Surely most of the people who work for the council are also council tax payers and might actually have an interest in the future of Edinburgh too.
40

madrab,

edinburgh 19/03/2008 00:06:10
optimus prime

How big was your brown envelope?
41

madrab,

edinburgh 19/03/2008 00:12:30
#39

Have you never dealt with an employee of the council?

From experience it's hard to judge because they are often off sick, but when they are at work they tend not to be the sharpest tool in the box.

Given that the council accepted a payment from Mountgrange then proceeded to give their development a big thumbs up, I would have thought that everybody would see the council as corrupt.
42

jamesviii,

edinburgh 19/03/2008 11:15:00
#19, if the place at present is 'baltic' cold, it's simple ... HEAT IT ! , JOB DONE ! it's not 'rocket science'. Any new facility would need funding for heating too ! ....

 

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