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Published Date: 12 December 2008
BUS passengers in the Capital are to be hit with a 10p hike in the price of a single ticket and a near-£100 jump in the cost of an annual Ridacard as Lothian Buses seeks to combat falling revenues.
The bus company has confirmed it will increase the price of adult single tickets to £1.20 and the cost of day tickets by 50p to £3 from January 18.

There will also be rises for other tickets, including an increase in the cost of an annual Ridacard from £444 to £540, as the firm looks to plug a financial black hole caused by falling passenger numbers and the cost of fuel.

Lothian Buses said the decision was due to the current "economic and operational climate" and in response to fuel tax changes announced in Chancellor Alistair Darling's Pre-Budget Report.

The company had previously said that the Scottish Government was unlikely to adopt measures laid out by the Chancellor, which would have seen a reduction in fuel duties paid by bus firms.

Ian Craig, Lothian Buses' managing director, said: "Any kind of fare increase is regrettable. However, the current economic and operational climate we find ourselves in means we must look at generating sufficient revenue to balance our books."

Last month, Lothian Buses blamed a fresh round of cuts to services on "city-wide roadworks" and the economic downturn.

The decision to withdraw or cut back five more routes followed on from the scrapping of 11 routes the previous month, and passenger numbers are down seven per cent on last year.

The new fares come into force the same day as the most recently announced cuts are made to services, and follow a 10p rise in the price of a single ticket in April.

Councillor Mark McInnes, the city's Tory transport spokesman, said: "These are very large increases and I'm very disappointed that they have been brought in at a time when patronage is actually going down.

"I also think it's disappointing the Scottish Government has not passed on the fuel tax rebate which will benefit bus firms down south."

The Rev. Jim Jack, minister at Duddingston Kirk, has spoken out against cuts to bus provision in Duddingston Village affecting his congregation.

He said: "If they are going to put up prices at least have a proper service. It is not a proper service when I am being told I can't get home from town after 8pm and there is no bus on a Sunday.

"My concern is that people are going to have to pay it and it is hitting the vulnerable and the weak."

Lothian Buses said that fares compare favourably with the cost of parking in the city centre, and the price of bus tickets in other UK cities – a day ticket in Glasgow costs £3.20, £4 in Aberdeen and £3.70 in Manchester.

Pilmar Smith, Lothian Buses' chairman, added: "We have always prided ourselves on being able to offer low fares to customers. Even with these fare increases, Lothian Buses continue to have some of the lowest bus fares in the UK."


The full article contains 528 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 12 December 2008 9:33 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
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1

Bob 2,

12/12/2008 11:40:32
haven't the TRAMWORKS done well

given the the annual ride a card rise is 22.6% (£444 to £540)

lothian buses are clearly in financial difficulties


and with the Promise of Princes Street being shut for 8 months, things from experience will get worse.

from low fares to high fares

20% rise in a single fare in 9 months..

Hiking the fares will have a NEGATIVE effect as people will stop using the buses for Non essential journies


TIE - must be up for some sort of award
2

Bob 2,

12/12/2008 11:41:50
the cost of fuel, strange one this , given the drop in the price of fuel recently
3

Uncle Piehead,

12/12/2008 12:00:15
It's ony 10p.
4

Uncle Piehead,

12/12/2008 12:01:03
I mind the auld days when you could get a horse and cart for three ducats and a chicken carcass
5

Foo,

12/12/2008 12:01:41
This has nothing to do with trams #1, and everything to do with a poorly run dog of a company and its long, drawn out death at the hands of terrible management.

Fuel costs? Fuel's the cheapest it's ever been in the last three years.

He's a liar.
6

Bob 2,

12/12/2008 12:02:31
comment 3

10/10 - gold star


20% rise in under a year

22.6% for an annual ride a card - yet you are PAYING more for LESS
7

Bob 2,

12/12/2008 12:04:38
5 Wrong.

with a poorly run dog of a company and its long, drawn out death at the hands of terrible management.

YIP Lothian buses have old buses, high fares and so on !

but keep winding us up!
8

Bob 2,

12/12/2008 12:07:37
N05
funny a colleague at work has commented that NOW THE THE TRAMWORKS have been cleared up for the CHRISTMAS that their bus is running normally again.

Bus running normally - tramworks stopped - now what could have been causing the problem?
9

Bruce Ma Goose,

12/12/2008 12:10:01
Given the recent unprecedented collapse of the price of oil such a thumping rise in the annual card is totally unjustifiable.

Being paranoid, I suspect it is part of a concerted effort to repeatedly raise public transport prices prior to the introduction of trams (at which point fares for trams and buses will be aligned).

This way it can be falsely claimed that the exhorbitant fares we’ll experience in 2011 are not a consequence of the trams, but of ‘events’ from the previous 3 years. My hearty thanks to all who voted to elect Lib Dems, Tories and Labour representatives to the parliament.

What are the chances of a £2 one way ticket by the time the trams come in.
10

Number1,

12/12/2008 12:10:28
#5 Fuel costs? Fuel's the cheapest it's ever been in the last three years

This might be the case... for private car owners, etc!
The prices at the pumps is in no way a contrast to the price bus firms across the UK have to pay. Read the story in full before you share your intelligent and valuable opinion with the world!!
11

JT,

12/12/2008 12:13:09
This is all because we said no to congestion charges!!!
12

The Duck,

Edinburgh 12/12/2008 12:14:29
#5

While I agree that #1 is probably one of these idiots that is just waiting to blame the end of the world on the Trams coming to Edinburgh, in this case they are connected.

The fall in revenue is because people don't want to use the service because of the Tram works. they will find alternative method of transport or not make the journey.

Lthian buses is nothing short of a farce.

And don't start me on not getting change on the bus. nothing short of a Con.
13

Simon M,

Edinburgh 12/12/2008 12:15:51
As others say, the fuel excuse is ridiculous - petrol and diesel prices have plumetted in the last six months. Lothian Buses are at it.
14

Uncle Piehead,

12/12/2008 12:18:15
Let's face it folks, if Lothian Buses was privately owned, single fares would be £2.20 and the service would be all to McFuckety
15

Bob 2,

12/12/2008 12:26:08
no14

and it would be called FIRST
16

tog,

Edinburgh 12/12/2008 12:26:22
As others have said above the one thing the trams seem to guarantee is more expensive public transport. I suspect the trams will be quite a bit more expensive than the buses but bus fares will go up. The worst scenario is that bus fares will go at the same time as the frequency of buses goes down. The buses will become a second class service for the majority of citizens whilst the trams become a prestige services for visitors. The bus service is better and generally cheaper in Edinburgh than elsewhere but this is about to change
17

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12/12/2008 12:27:54
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18

Ryan Kelly,

bus shelter 12/12/2008 12:29:05
to those that say that the fuel costs have went down, this is true. But the tax on fuel has went up and Lothian (like stagecoach & plane companies) agree their fuel price well in advance and book it in bulk. i am sure they get money back for fuel but that would be a small amount compared to what it cost.
has anyone noticed their electricty costs go down despite oil cost halving? NO
By the time the trams come into play there may not be a bus company. princes st to close weset end to close haymarket to close leith to close - no business can withstand mass problems like this, add to that portobello and the caos that is going on there, crew toll will be traffic lighted soon as well, now might be a good time for first to up its game, or arriva and catch the council cold - dark days
19

Steven P,

edinburgh 12/12/2008 12:29:12
To be honest £1,20 for a single fare is reasonable.
But the prospect of £10 in bus fares for 2 parents and 2 kids to venture into town will hardly encourage bus patronage or city centre custom.
Is anyone still singing the praises of fat cat Renilson for his outstanding contribution to trashing the Lothian Bus service whilst lining his own pocket?
20

Victoria Ian,

12/12/2008 12:35:32
it's only 10p. £1.20 is good value imo.
21

Foo,

12/12/2008 12:35:33
#10 - OK, I re-read it, still can't see where it says buses pay a different price. Perhaps I'm missing it, would you cut and paste the bit that states that for me?
22

Bob 2,

12/12/2008 12:40:55
can someone tell me how many bosses does Lothian Buses have?
23

Hmm?,

12/12/2008 12:50:11
>>7 "Lothian buses have old buses"

Don't know where you get the idea they have old buses.

You should try public transport in London for old buses...
24

Jenny Mac-Mac-Mac-Mac-Mac-Mac-Mac-Mac-MacArthur,

12/12/2008 12:50:11
You people are all such dismal doleful moaning pessimistic reactionaries!

Yes, these price rises are caused by the trams; yes, the bus company will probably go under; yes, ordinary folk will have to make all their journeys on foot, if not on their hands and knees.

But don't you see, IT'S ALL WORTH IT, because trams are so unspeakably WONDROUS and VIBRANT?

Stop listening to the Pope/Moderator/Dalai Lama or whoever it is who keeps telling you to be miserable and tiresome. Step aboard The Tram and be HAPPY!!
25

Del Maleo,

Edinburgh 12/12/2008 12:50:36
Happy to pay the 10p rise. Money well spent.
26

Bob 2,

12/12/2008 12:54:36
23 Hmm?,12/12/2008 12:50:11
>>7 "Lothian buses have old buses"

Don't know where you get the idea they have old buses.

You should try public transport in London for old buses...

Was replying to comment 5

LB have one of the newest fleets in the country and lowest fares.
27

Bob 2,

12/12/2008 12:55:11
24 is that U TONY
28

Foo,

12/12/2008 12:59:36
#26

What?

29

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12/12/2008 13:03:38
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30

mixu62,

Somewhere bus fares can't hurt me 12/12/2008 13:05:40
I'm somebody who bought a yearly ridecard - been shaffted right. left and up the back by LTR, TIE and the council -- All three are culpable in the total shambles that is Edinburghs roadworks, no co-ordonation or thought for workers travelling across town. All three should be held to account in a public debate. It's not too late to stop the trams and actually PLAN a proper buis network for the city using streets like Melvile st and queen st to stream of buses. won't happen because somebody soemwhere is making bucks out of trams and a thought of bus structure would actually need input from people who know what they are doing
31

Bob 2,

12/12/2008 13:06:58
28 correct
32

Snails dont like curry and chips,

Edinburgh 12/12/2008 13:08:15
All because of the white elephant choo choo train!!! It may only be 10p but it is ANOTHER 10p on top of the last rise and the 50p is not insignificant on day tickets. This council and its hapless predecessors have really screwed up what was an excellent and cost effective bus service.
33

Fecker,

12/12/2008 13:12:03
another nail in the coffin of public transport, cars rock! well done Lothian Buses and the Council
34

The Leith Cowboy BAM BAM,

Bruxelles 12/12/2008 13:14:29
some of you really need to get a life if a 10p rise on a very reasonable fare is getting you all hot and bothered.
35

Pacob75,

Edinburgh 12/12/2008 13:21:08
#30

How are ye being shafted like? It still works out at about £1.50 a day. Even if ye dinnae use it every day it still seems cheap tae me. Public debate? What will that achieve?

And 10p on the single fare? It's no really something tae get yer knickers in a twist over is it? Sounds like just another excuse tae have a right gid WHINGE!
36

Sarah B,

Edinburgh 12/12/2008 13:28:32
The problems experienced by Lothian Buses now and in the future are set out in an appendix to the tram final business case.

Lothian Buses was a successful company running comparatively frequent and extensive services at reasonable fares.

Enter a bunch of politicians too eager to tug their forelock to the Waterfront developers and who couldn't resist a nice wodge of cash from the Labour government for a tram. Unfortunately, those same politicians lacked the expertise to understand either the technical or financial consequences of introducing a tram line but chose instead to foist all operational losses arising from tram onto Lothian Buses. Just for good measure they then get the Chair of TIE onto the bus company's Board, along with one or two Labour party hacks but continue to argue that there is nothing they can do as Lothian Buses is autonomous.

Ticket prices rise, services and frequencies decrease and, no doubt, the quality of the bus fleet will deteriorate. So, let's be clear: bus users and Lothian Buses alike have been well and truly shafted by politicians incapable of understanding the implications of their decisions and by public officials who see their priority as pandering to them, rather than protecting a valuable publicly-owned asset.
37

Linda,

Edinburgh 12/12/2008 13:39:42
Fares will continue to rise to bring them in line with the expensive Tram folly.

Lothian Buses said the decision was due to the current "economic and operational climate" and in response to fuel tax changes announced in Chancellor Alistair Darling's Pre-Budget Report.
38

MAX 51,

EDINBURGH 12/12/2008 14:05:19
MAKE OAPS PAY 30P A TRIP AND THERE WILL BE NO RISE FOR ANYONE ELES.!!!
39

Maxibus,

12/12/2008 14:08:27
Lothian fares will still be the cheapest in Britain and for a city with Edinburghs' cost of living. Only the single fare went up last time and then you didn't have to pay it if you got your ticket from the red pavement machines. The people moaning in here are not concerned with the bus service but whether the tram will slow down their cars.
40

Walleroonie,

Dalkeith 12/12/2008 14:11:13
Moandoakleytastical - its 10p - Edinburgh has one of the cheapest public transport systems in Scotland and in Britain as a whole. I like public trasport despite its shortcomings, it saves taking my car into town and looking for spaces and the bus can jump ahead thanks to the green lanes so long as cars are not blocking the way.

The few down sides that there are: clumsy, club footed, brake jerkingly poorly trained drivers and an assortment of Saughton's finest making their way to the courts/chemists etc are more than compensated for with the cheap fair and fairly quick speed in which I can get into town in.

The trams are coming, there's f'all you can do to stop them so why keep bleating on about them you moany bunch of ingrates.

This is not a new story anyway, just the EEN rehashing one from a couple of weeks ago.


41

The Leith Cowboy BAM BAM,

Bruxelles 12/12/2008 14:16:25
39 got it in one.
42

Sarah B,

Edinburgh 12/12/2008 14:22:26
Maxibus (39) - How dare you make assumptions about the motivations of people you do not know!

I have been and am fighting tooth and nail to stop bus cuts and fare increases for Edinburgh public transport users and absolutely support effective, inexpensive, frequent and reliable public transport. That is what the buses have provided and what is now in jeopardy.

At no point in this whole sorry tram saga have I heard a politician stand up and say that our bus services would cost more for a poorer service as a result of the tram. Neither have I heard one explain why the results of that, eg, higher car usage, greater disadvantage to residents, etc, complies with national or local policy. Nor, indeed, were we asked what we thought of the Council borrowing £60m to make up funding shortfalls, no doubt expecting the bus company to meet the interest payments.

Misrepresentation, negligence and political manipulation - quite disgusting.
43

The Leith Cowboy BAM BAM,

Bruxelles 12/12/2008 14:25:39
42 The B stand for Bus.

And God said onto Satan, you take Sarah for I dont want her here. all she does is drone on about buses all day , like some demented bingo seeker who woud rather stand and wait for 3 buses to arrive at once (in the cauld9 rather than walk two stops in another mans tram.
44

johnny boy,

edinburgh 12/12/2008 14:32:49
Oil prices are now 1/3 of where they were earlier this year and still falling. It is nonsense to hike fares on this pretext. It is common in other industries to cut costs and cut prices to push demand up. Cutting fares to £1 and maintaining the annual pass cost would get total revenues up.
And by the way I presume the usual local authority final salary pension scheme is still being held open for these quasi public sector employees at the majority of the population's expense?
45

Sarah B,

Edinburgh 12/12/2008 14:33:24
Yes, poor me, trying to educate those who cannot be bothered to read a business case.
46

Incandescent,

12/12/2008 14:41:18
#43 Cowboy. Your Don Quixote-like reactions to Sarah B's "uncomfortable truths" amuse me. Please don't stop.
47

mystic,

Edinburgh 12/12/2008 14:43:05
At least the lady on the bus has a nice ass
48

The Leith Cowboy BAM BAM,

Bruxelles 12/12/2008 14:44:29
I actually like Sarah, but i just cant help myself. She has convictions.
49

Leila,

Edinburgh 12/12/2008 14:46:49
#43: Do you and certain others think it's funny to hijack the EN forums day after day with irrelevant and frequently insulting comments directed at other contributors? Sarah B is clearly a well-informed individual who cares about public transport and all you can do is call her "some demented bingo seeker". If you can't add something constructive to the debate, why are you bothering to comment at all?
50

The Leith Cowboy BAM BAM,

Bruxelles 12/12/2008 14:57:42
50 Leila. Refresh or PF5 first , honeybunch.
51

The Leith Cowboy BAM BAM,

Bruxelles 12/12/2008 14:59:31
50 Leila with all respect at the very least i amuse myself and sometimes others.

apart from a few words of wisdom from people like Sarah (who is capable of seeing the funny side of being called a demented bingo seeker) its a complete moanfest.

how dare you attack me about "constructive"
52

Linmal,

Livingston 12/12/2008 15:03:33
I wish Lothian Buses ran in West Lothian. Bus fares out here are far in excess of what people have to pay in Edinburgh, and the service, if you can call it that, is not nearly as good as the people of Edinburgh have become used to. £1.20 to go from one end of the town to the other? I wish! That wouldn't even take you four or five stops in West Lothian. But go on, complain, you know you want to!
53

Foo,

12/12/2008 15:09:37
#50 - Am I one of the 'certain others'?
54

The Leith Cowboy BAM BAM,

Bruxelles 12/12/2008 15:10:54
54 Yes pal.
55

Mykel Mzoritz,

12/12/2008 15:18:40
johnni is that you at #55
56

Sarah B,

Edinburgh 12/12/2008 15:29:12
Cowboy (49) - Thank you.

And you remind me of the little schoolboy, who lacks the inclination or intelligence to succeed but takes enormous satisfaction from persecuting those with more foresight. Can't help but shake my head and wonder at your impishness.
57

drew 33,

duddingston 12/12/2008 15:47:21
38MAX 51
"MAKE OAPS PAY 30P A TRIP AND THERE WILL BE NO RISE FOR ANYONE ELES.!!!"

They mainly go in the bus because they can't afford to heat their homes. Charge for the bus and the libraries will be full! Not much help since the buses are credited for every pensioner.
58

tartangladbach,

edinburgh 12/12/2008 15:50:32
2/1 trams get cancelled in january
6/4 tie go bust in january
evens trams project suspended in january
4/7 we all go to poland looking for work in january
59

James (1),

12/12/2008 16:02:22
"Lothian Buses said that fares compare favourably with the cost of parking in the city centre, and the price of bus tickets in other UK cities – a day ticket in Glasgow costs £3.20, £4 in Aberdeen and £3.70 in Manchester."

We should up the prices to £4.05. We are better than Aberdeen and money is no object. We are getting a new tram line at any cost AND run by a company that will make it a profitable go going concern. That's the type of company that should be running the buses!
What? No! They cannot be the same?

Oh well I have my car so I don't care. It's only right that bus users pay their way. Although they have sponged off motorists by taking the lions share of the road it would appear they now have to pay their own way.
Not so pleasant for them now?
60

Give us a 7,

12/12/2008 16:06:07
If Lothian buses planted a few more passengers like the one getting on the bus I think you'd find an increase in travellers..........Edinbuggers are always going on about the splendid views, and I have to agree on this occasion..............!!!!!!
61

Wassup,

12/12/2008 16:22:15
Actually Manchester bus fares are not 3:70

http://www.gmpte.com/content.cfm?subcategory_id=4172656

They sure can tell some porkies dem bus people.

Reporter obviously too busy to google manchester bus fares
62

Franck,

12/12/2008 16:49:37
why is the girl on the bus getting on topless, is this an advert for public transport? Count me In!!!!!
63

E300,

12/12/2008 17:01:41
Did it ever occur to Lothian Bus that the recent 10% increase in fares might reduce passenger numbers? Most of the previous increase in passengers was down to the pensioners travel concession.
"Lothian Buses said that fares compare favourably with the cost of parking in the city centre" Yep! that's why we are shopping at Fort Kinneard, Cameron Toll, The Gyle and Straiton!
64

Eliz,

Fife 12/12/2008 17:14:29
Sarah B: thanks for your knowledge and intelligence!
65

nozza, born n bred bingham now living in newcastle,

cramlington 12/12/2008 18:49:29
As i said last week , come down to Newcastle for a few days and use this bus service then you'll have something to moan about! £3.60 for a 20 minute bus ride and no, that's not for a day saver that's just a single fare and that's when it decides to turn up! give me lothian bus service any time.
66

The Sheriff,

12/12/2008 19:16:10
Perhaps they should abolish all the free passes for our so called old aged pensioners who haven't got a bean to scrape together(my @rse they have)

There are plenty of folk over 60 who have the cash to afford even a minimal fare,if they paid their way then perhaps lrt could afford to forgo this inflation busting rise.

Oh fook it,i don't use the bus anyway so do i really care?Long live the car.
67

NorT,

Edinburgh 12/12/2008 19:41:49
Sarah B I gree with you. Lothian Buses have to put uo the fares in gradual stages so that by the time the trams start to run they will be at the £3 mark as the tram and bus fares are to be the same. They will not bring down the tram fares to a low level of bus fares but do the opposite and increase the bus fares as they are doing. When challenged Councillor Wheeler cannot get his head around this simple concept. All he says is that the tram and bus fares will be the same.
68

MAX 51,

edinburgh 12/12/2008 19:42:46
once again make all oaps and ppl with free bus passes pay 30p to get a bus.!!and it might stop the buses getting full up with oaps going to bingo too.!!!
69

Peperami Sausage,

Livingston 12/12/2008 19:51:50
Gorgie_Tony. Couldn't agree more. Too all those dafties who rejected congestion charging...Trams. To all those dafties who voted Stupid Numpty Party...Trams. Despite their manifesto promise they would scrap the plans. Hands up who fell for that nonsense?
70

Peperami Sausage,

Livingston 12/12/2008 19:53:23
Anyone know who won bus company of the year 2008?
71

COLINTON.MAINS,

Oakville Ontario 12/12/2008 21:06:29
wait.when.trams.breakdown.in,rush.hour..hated.trams
72

The real dracula,

12/12/2008 21:25:15
Ban buses forever , car drivers to rule the planet.

We will overcome you ,,,,,,,,,,
73

nozza, born n bred bingham now living in newcastle,

cramlington 12/12/2008 21:34:45
I totally agree!
74

snoopy,

12/12/2008 21:45:32
Bob 2

You're right, TIE should be up for some sort of award. I can think of two offhand. How about:

1) How NOT to install tramworks!

2) How to waste taxpayers money!

Any ideas for any more?
75

go boil ur heid,

12/12/2008 22:22:05
if the loony labour never gave the bus drivers a massive wage increase they wouldn't be in such a mess. but yet again labour in their glory spendaholic days spent spent spent, without thinking about the future, so we have today raising prices that will be blamed yet again on people who had no say in the matter
76

nozza, born n bred bingham now living in newcastle,

cramlington 12/12/2008 22:32:25
On the grand scale of things this's nothing really is it but while I'm on the subject think about this, Edinburgh has the lowest bus fares and the best bus service out of the whole of the UK! Now that's no bad, the lowest fares out of every town and city in the UK. mmmm!
77

Andrew,

12/12/2008 22:40:54
STILL 'CHEAP AT THE PRICE' v the hassle of driving into and parking in Edinburgh!! Cars are NOT for CITY CENTRES!
78

Sarah B,

Edinburgh 12/12/2008 23:50:51
Nor T (74) - I have been pondering this ticket price question a bit more.

I shall have to do some more checking but I think that the last fare increase and the pending increase, together with the bus cuts, are probably, just as Lothian Buses says, designed to get its company at least back to breakeven point for now.

The problem is that if they are cutting out the loss-making services now and reducing frequencies, then, when the tram starts operating, even assuming the lowest level of losses predicted in the business case of £10m per annum, what cuts will be left to Lothian Buses to make?

It is a downward spiral. Cut out the loss-making routes, lower the quality of buses, decrease frequencies and increase fares in order to breakeven. This, of course, leads to a generally less attractive bus service citywide, with consequent decrease in passenger numbers ... and so the spiral continues. It will also probably result in an increasing reliance on the car.

That opens the possibility of Lothian Buses being so weakened by having to cover the substantial annual losses sustained by the tram that, unless it receives massive subsidies, it will be open to takeover by a private company.

79

Top_Dawg,

The planet wibble wobble 13/12/2008 01:16:24
More cost to the public and we still have to suffer all the NEDs with their mobile phones and garbage music and daft @rsed mobile tones being played as loudly as they can.
80

tumshie heid,

13/12/2008 01:31:43
Tony bus drivers are paid way over the odds. Working in atrocious conditions? Does a heated cab with a screen to keep the neds at bay sound atrocious? Not to me it doesn't.
Their job can be difficult as the general public are involved but they do appear to be paid too much.
As for you having a friend, I doubt that very much.
81

Bob 2,

13/12/2008 10:01:22
92 tumshie heid

I would have to agree with GT a bit on this

try driving a bus....you'd last about a day

the Wages advertised on the back of the buses are average.

Great to see the Signs up saying no tramworks for the tourist season.
82

tumshie heid,

13/12/2008 13:05:46
I drive vans, cars and motorcycles through Edinburgh frequently and aside from not dealing with the public I see no difference in any other driving job.
If the wages mentioned on the back of the buses are only average then that means there are drivers earning even more than the sums mentioned.
83

Bob 2,

13/12/2008 14:44:52
94 tumshie heid

you've actually answered your own question

aside from NOT dealing with the public

You'd last about a day, before you wanted to hit some of the passengers that get on buses, you'd be amazed how ignorant they are.

add the drunks at nights

along with vans, cars and motorcycles

and of course trying to keep to a timetable for 4 to 5 hours between breaks.

it doesn't say how much the basic salary is or how many hours the drivers have to work to get the average salary.
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A.A.,

Dalkeith 29/01/2009 18:48:53
The 10p rise isn't that much but the 50p extra on the daysaver is.
We can't all afford this rise on top of struggling to pay gas bills and higher food prices.
It might be a bit more palatable if Lothian bus drivers were a bit more pleasant.

 

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