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Published Date:
04 April 2007
RESIDENTS in an Edinburgh street plagued by litter and dog fouling have demanded action from the city council.
People staying in Granton Medway claim street cleaning teams and environmental wardens are not doing enough to control the problems in their area.

And they reacted with disbelief to last week's report by environmental watchdog Keep Scotland Beaut
iful which said that the city is cleaner than ever before.

Inspectors were told to look out for dog fouling, vandalism, graffiti, weeds, fly-posting and fly-tipping, as well as the prevalence of different types of litter.

The overall Edinburgh score was 70 - the highest in the eight years that the inspections have been carried out - but some Granton residents felt their own score should have been closer to zero.

As well as pieces of rubbish like pizza cartons, chip papers, empty juice bottles and crisp packets, plastic bags and bits of paper strewn around the street, dog fouling is obviously a problem, with many people not cleaning up after their pets.

George Taylor, secretary of the West Pilton/West Granton community council, said: "The cleaning services in this area can be quite sporadic, and so there are a lot of problems with litter.

"There used to be concierges here who would patrol part of the area, make sure it was kept tidy, pick up bits of litter and get people involved in keeping their communities tidy.

"But since the funding went for them there has been no real service down here.

"We've told the council about it, but they don't seem to think it's a problem."

Postman James Manson, 39, who has lived in Granton Medway for more than six years, said he was stunned when he read about the city's "clean" streets.

"When I read that the city was being praised for the cleanliness of its streets I just about choked, and it's obvious they never came down here," he said.

"If these inspectors had taken a look at this street they wouldn't see us a premiership team, but closer to a lower division club fighting relegation.

"It is terrible here, and it has been like this for a long time. The streets are cleaned once a week, but all they do is sweep to the side of the road, so anything on the pavement is just left.

"The dog fouling is a real concern, and while the area has never been great, I would say if anything it's worse now than when I moved in."

Neighbour Mark Faulkner, 43, a student, said that it was probably the worst street he had ever lived on.

"We get fire engines down to this area constantly, and I was told it was kids burning rubbish, so it's clear there's a problem with too much litter around here," he said.

"I think kids these days just don't care and will throw their empty bottles or sweet wrappers wherever they like.

"But the problems here have been brought to the attention of the council, and yet nothing's been done.

"I don't think I've ever seen an environmental warden down here since they were introduced, and there is just rubbish everywhere."

The Keep Scotland Beautiful result followed an Audit Scotland report last month, based on inspections carried out last year, which branded the city's streets as the worst in Scotland.

A council spokeswoman said Granton Medway was normally cleaned every ten days, including both the pavements and the roads, but added that the residents' concerns have been passed on to cleaning teams.

Councillor Robert Cairns, Environment and Streetscape leader, said: "The recent CIMS score shows that the city as a whole has been independently verified to be cleaner and this is good news.

"However, this doesn't mean that we're complacent.

"We will therefore look into the residents' concerns and if action is needed in the Granton Medway area, we will ensure that it is taken."



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  • Last Updated: 04 April 2007 9:37 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Litter
 
1

Dave From Barra,

Western Isles 04/04/2007 11:06:50

Sorry to hear you have been let down folks. Only suggestion I can offer is the threat of law concerning the Injurious Weeds Act 1957 which covers 5 weeds namely:-

Spear Thistle
Creeping or field thistle
Broad leaf dock
Curled leaf dock
Common ragwort.

It is against the law to allow these weeds to propogate and migrate on the owners/tenants land. It is a small but possibley good lever to kick start your council into action.

See link for further info.

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/Agriculture/Environment...

2

mv,

04/04/2007 11:10:04

Nothing new here, move along please!

Edinburgh is no better or worse than most other UK towns no matter how much the council make up awards to prove otherwise. Its the culture we live in these days, selfish do not care attitude everywhere and litter is one outcome of this. Someone else will pick it up!

3

John Knox for First Meenister,

High St , Embra 04/04/2007 11:10:48

[RESIDENTS in an Edinburgh street plagued by litter and dog fouling have demanded action from the city council.]
Eh? Eh?? 'scuse me.. why should we waste all our money so that people can just chuck their litter anywhere and let their dogs foul the pavements? Live with yer rubbish yi scaffs or take responsibility yersels!

4

SarahT,

04/04/2007 11:28:58

The whole place is a tip -- an embarrassment. Who wants to pay hard-earned cash to visit Edinburgh and see graffiti, trash and vandalism everywhere? Did these inspectors go anywhere other than George Street after it was cleaned? Has anybody seen the Links? Meadows? It's not just Granton...

5

Y. Lee Kyoté,

Transport Consultant 04/04/2007 11:39:15

If brushes and vacuums were fitted to the sides of the trams, it would take care of the bits of Edinburgh that get inspected.

6

Jonesy,

holland 04/04/2007 11:47:30

Edinburgh clean? Have a walk around Marchmount area with old plastic bags ripped open full of rubbish spilling onto the pavements and roads. These lie for days (and weeks?) awaiting collection by the odd bin men. Having dodged the rubbish the next obstacle is dog poo! What is needed are a few sanitary inspectors (a dead breed?) and a good soap and water job now and again.
How does Robert Cairns get the job of Environment and Streetscape leader with presumably a fat salary if he is unaware of the reality, Edinburgh the Capital City of Bonnie Scotland is filthy. Maybe as part of his job he should get of his bottom and go for a walk around the city. "Improvements" don't make me laugh.

7

elayne,

fife(with splendid views of edinburgh) 04/04/2007 11:58:37

same all over,litter,chip wrappers,dog sh1t etc(its like a minefield over here too)we have fortnightly domestic rubbish collection here which i think should be weekly because peoples bins etc get fulland its dumped on the pavement,cats/dogs etc rip them open,rubbish is strewn everywhere and its a mess

8

Flan Haggis,

04/04/2007 12:01:08

If the folks in Pilton and Granton have a problem with "pieces of rubbish like pizza cartons, chip papers, empty juice bottles and crisp packets, plastic bags and bits of paper strewn around the street, [and] dog fouling" then the solution is fairly simple. They should stop discarding "pieces of rubbish like pizza cartons, chip papers, empty juice bottles and crisp packets, plastic bags and bits of paper " and clean up after their pets!!!

9

Olliemc,

GRANTON 04/04/2007 12:30:48

I agree that since the Environmental Wardens first were introduced I think I only ever saw one in the Granton area. I agree that the medway is in a dire way but if you go further to Granton Crescent. It is an absolute disgrace. If people have dogs they should be responsible for their dogs actions instead of walking away and leaving it for someone else to deal with. We all should have pride in where we live and treat our area with respect.

10

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 04/04/2007 12:32:40

#s 1 & 8

Nobody is FORCING you to read this newspaper on the net.

Your remarks are uniformly negative and perhaps you should cease reading a newspaper with which you are so unsympathetic and can offer no positive feedback most of the time.

11

Whiskey,

Canada 04/04/2007 12:48:06

We kinda have the same litter problem.
One of our local TV stations actually film the garbage strewn areas - report them to the local council - then check back to see if the mess has been cleaned up.
Also, this time of year (after the snow melts) the mayor has a city clean-up day, and he like many volunteers, don the wellies and spend the day picking up garbage.
This does make people aware of cleaning their own mess.
However, like most countries, the most mess is prevelant around high school sites and shopping centres.
Dog Poo??? catch the offending pet owners and make them wear the 'goodies' around their neck!!

12

Declan,

Glasgow 04/04/2007 12:55:41

Here we go again - its clean, its dirty, its clean, its dirty. EEN - make up your mind and get on with the job in hand!

13

alex paterson,

embra 04/04/2007 12:58:38

There are allot of people like Dirty Streets,Citys,Houses,And dirty homeless people,Etc,But not me,Edinburgh was cleaner 40 years ago.

14

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 04/04/2007 13:08:21

#13

What isa "womble"?

Also, I am not familiar with that part of town. How was I to know having never been there?

I will accede to your being "unsympathetic".

15

paul the binman,

04/04/2007 13:32:06

My street is full of discarded elastic bands,all dropped by the good old postie.As for the bags in Marchmount,funny I though they had bins,mind you it can be very complex,placing the bags in the bin.As for fortnightly collections,its comming to Edinburgh and sooner than you think................

16

One-man-bucket's older twin,

04/04/2007 13:40:14

# 19 - LOL!

# 15 - clean-up days sound like a good idea, but in Edinburgh, you'd have to force people into doing it by saying cleaning services would be suspended for a time unless they did.

I wonder how many of the people complaining drop litter (or their children do) or don't clean up after their own dogs. As I understand it, Council services are not there to do for you what you can do for yourself.

17

Cant use my name anymore-Alex,

Prisoner of the Machine 04/04/2007 13:42:02

Dont worry, help is at hand. We will soon have talking CCTV cameras which will tell people to pick up their mess. Just seen it on Sky news.

Imagine it, Nobody around but young Wayne who chucks his Irn Bru bottle away. Voice from above says

Oi you, yes you ya wee s**it, pick up that bottle and take it home with you

Problem solved apparently

18

Just passing through,

04/04/2007 14:07:56

Why do people always automatically think that litter / dog excrement / graffitti / other vandalism / general neglect is someone else's problem? It's always, "It's a disgrace, but (of course) it wisnae me!" Even if it wasn't you, have some respect! Get out there and clean up! It's not difficult!

19

Shaun McDonald,

04/04/2007 14:25:45

#20, I'm happy with fortnightly landfill waste collection as long as I get a weekly recycling collection, and some form of box that just doesn't blow away at the slightest gust of wind.

20

Vandala,

04/04/2007 14:38:24

One is reminded of the Half Man Half Biscuit song "Breaking News", where the narrator outlines a number of individuals who have been arrested for "annoying the nation". Included amongst that august number are:

"People who moan at the council about the streets being full of litter; not stopping to think it is people who drop litter, not the council".

21

A Leither,

04/04/2007 14:40:42

Get all the wee neds caught whilst up to no good to be sentenced to one year's community clean-up duties. Make them wear bright, primary-coloured jump suits and chain them together at the ankles ever yday when they start work so that they can't run away. Result - less prison overcrowding & more people out clearing up the cr*p that others leave behind.

22

katie,

Edinburgh 04/04/2007 15:24:55

I disagree completely with the enviromental report. I take my kids for walks thru the park and it's strewn with litter on many occasions by the kids who play there. Has anyone noticed the gathering of residents and dogs at lunchtime on Saturdays just before the football games start. It is suspected that the dogs are brought to the park to foul the area and should be penalised for having their animals running about the grounds without leashes.

23

SarahT,

04/04/2007 16:59:00

Yes, it is people who drop the litter -- and I spend a good portion of my morning picking up what others have so selfishly discarded -- but I just don't have the time to pick it all up on the street I live, let alone my neighbourhood - - and the next day it's all back again (including the graffiti when it's been removed). I blame certain anti-social citizens of this city for creating the problem and the Council and police for tackling the problem in an inefficient and ineffective manner. Contrary to what some might think, most of us who care about the problem don't sit around thinking that it is the Council's problem.

24

Paul Voltaire is a f@nny,

Edinburgh 04/04/2007 17:28:16

Plenty people in Saughton Prison who could do with some day work........same as they do in the States.

25

brian grassmarket,

National Galleries 04/04/2007 17:28:19

I walked over the mound this aftrnoon to be met in the Gallery area of Princes Street by Mounds of Rubbish. Every bucket was overflowing. One near the ice cream van was surrounded by six feet of bags and debris. On a nice day people take thier lunch in the Gardns. Surely a "scaffie" should be in charge of this high pofile area. The premises in this area are paying extortionate rates and deserve mors for thier money.

26

keit011,

edinburgh 04/04/2007 17:44:47

i have seen streets off dalry road and i wouldn't like to have to walk down them dog sh*t every where. i live outside Edinburgh and have noticed that there are professional dog walkers who take out about 10 dogs at a time not all on leads i bet they don't pick up any poo

27

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 04/04/2007 18:16:38

#s 19and21

I laughed out loud at your posting, 19.

Believe or not I asked an acquaintance of mine what a "womble" was and they KNEW!

I have led a sheltered life or something.

28

AlanG,

Edinburgh Centre 05/04/2007 09:54:39

As the owner of a guest house, I receive conflicting comments from guests about the state of the streets and rubbish. My own view is that 40 years ago, we received uplifts of waste food twice a week, general waste twice a week, clothes were taken by the rag and bone man, glass was returned (both milk and lemonade bottles), and we reused or restored or repaired everything else. Since we have been told we are greener suddenly all of the above is "new," and since we got greener, the city seems much dirtier. The twice a week street sweeper is now a machine every few weeks and he misses most of the dirt anyway, the parks no longer have a dedicated team of gardners - again replaced by "hit and run" teams. Perhaps Edinburgh is cleaner than many other places but God help the other places!

29

Kieron,

Stirling 05/04/2007 10:52:35

The place is a total sh*t hole, like all our towns in Scotland. The people are complete pigs and should be made to pick up every last highland toffee wrapper they drop

30

Excalibur,

Edinburgh 05/04/2007 19:42:10

I've never seen anyone cleaning the pavements in the Granton area in the five years that I've lived here! It's not only Granton Medway but parts of Wardieburn and Granton Crescent that are infested with dog excrement. It's like navigating through a minefield of faeces. And as for Environmental Wardens, I've only seen them in the area twice since they were brought into existence.

Once the Waterfront development is completed, I hope they improve the quality of Granton and the surrounding areas, otherwise it will become akin to some kind of ghetto. Ultimately, however, the residents who cause these problems will need to be dealt with so that they stop ruining the area for everyone else.


 

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