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Glasgow East by-election: 'Poll will send shivers down Labour's spine'



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Published Date: 12 July 2008
THE news that the SNP has overtaken Labour in voting intentions for a Westminster general election will send shivers down Labour's spine as the party prepares to defend the Glasgow East seat.
The YouGov poll published yesterday gives the Nationalists a clear four point lead and the only crumb of comfort for Labour is that the majority of those polled are still firmly against the idea of Scotland gaining independence.

Although polls ca
n hardly be considered an accurate reflection of how people will actually vote on the day, there are signs that Labour is running scared at a time when in UK and Scottish terms things are not going too well for them.

On paper, defending one of the safest Westminster majorities in what has always been a rock solid Labour seat would in normal circumstances be a formality.

But a faltering economy and an unsteady performance from an under fire Gordon Brown combined with the loss of Wendy Alexander as leader in Scotland is hardly the ideal preparation for going into battle on July 24. After heavy defeats in both Crewe and Nantwich and Henley, Mr Brown will not be keen to rack up an unenviable hat-trick of disasters. And they are up against a well marshalled and revived opponent in the SNP who will be keen to cement their hold on Scotland having routed Labour in last year's Holyrood elections.

The decision to delay a vote on new embryo laws from next Monday until the autumn - more than a third of voters in Glasgow East are Catholic – is another sure sign of the nervousness within Westminster and has opened Labour up to accusations of mothballing the issue in an attempt to shore up its vote.

While some would say that it is custom for Prime Ministers to stay away from by-election campaigns, others would say that the fact that Mr Brown seems set on distancing himself from a battle being fought on his home turf as an attempt to wash his hands of any involvement in what could prove an embarrassment. On the other hand David Cameron, Nick Clegg and Alex Salmond have all made high-profile visits to the constituency.

It remains to be seen if Alex Salmond's prediction of the SNP causing an "earthquake" in Glasgow East will come true. But there are certainly signs that they may cause a major voting landslide. To what extent such a result would further undermine Mr Brown's leadership remains to be seen.





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  • Last Updated: 12 July 2008 10:42 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Glasgow East by-election
 
1

Benedict Arnold,

Paris 12/07/2008 12:00:15
The author of the above article might have considered mentioning that the YouGov opinion-poll findings published yesterday show that only 11 per cent of the Scottish population believe that Scotland should continue to be represented by the UK in the European Union, that 66 per cent believe Scotland should become an independent member of the EU, that 17 per cent believe Scotland should leave the EU and that 5 per cent hadn't a clue. This data in itself would appear to explain why the proportion of the Scottish population indicating that they would prefer the SNP candidate to win the Glasgow East by-election is as high as 49 per cent while the proportion indicating a preference for Labour is as low as 33 per cent.

Although other figures published in the same survey report also indicate that there is a not insignificant proportion of the Scottish population which has not yet come to terms with the fact that in order to be an independent member of the European Union Scotland would have to become independent first, it can surely only be a matter of time before this intriguing confusion is dispelled, provided that the SNP can show itself to be equal to the challenge. It is, after all, not rocket science.

An SNP victory in the Glasgow East by-election may help to move the constitutional debate forward, which is one very good reason why it would be such a disaster for Labour as well as for the other parties which have not yet come to terms with the fact that in Scotland the unionism of the future is European Unionism rather than British unionism, which is dying on its feet.
2

BIG EYE,

Paisley 12/07/2008 12:06:18
Help, I am being overwhelmed with more and more evidence that Scotland would be much better off being independent.

What ever happened to good old credible unionist lies

Today's generation of Unionists are not a patch on their ancestors!

Oh dear...another reason for independence
3

Joe,

Livingston 12/07/2008 13:31:33
The same poll also revealed that the biggest percentage of Scots would not vote for an independent Scotand..the majority prefering to stay in the UK.
http://deadsmall.com/3QL
4

Dragonlord,

12/07/2008 14:15:54
They can make figures say anything they want, but it is becoming clear that Independance is the best way forward.
When Labour are so bad they need the fourth choice candidate you know they have lost the population and Tories are no better as has been proved time and again through history.
5

tomias,

Edinburgh 12/07/2008 15:00:06
Coudnt care less as I have no vote in this run down gerrymandered way of living. Bring back the birch !
6

SNP hypocrisy,

12/07/2008 17:07:21
Interesting that you seem to ignore the obvious fact that this poll was NOT taken in Glasgow East - but was painted over that seat as though it was. Isn't that just a tad undemocratic and a clear example of manipulation? Reality is that Labour members campaiging in the area have recorded 65% of voters in one area of the seat stating that they will vote Labour on the day. How about Yougov doing an HONEST Poll in the actual seat, instead of taking a poll elsewhere and claiming this is how people think there. The ridiculous figure that Yougov gave the SNP of 49% of the vote was the most disturbing manipulation of opinion poll statistics I have yet come across. Why talk to the monkey when you can talk to the organ grinder. Yougov, take an honest poll in Glasgow East and stop lying to the public about they think!
7

Evia,

12/07/2008 17:09:33
I was never for Independence but if it will get us out of the evil union, I would welcome it. The following is taken from another web site - check things out for yourself by researching it on other sites re the EU.
------------------
What will life be like in the EU after the 7th Treaty is signed?
Our Westminster Parliament immediately becomes pointess as its remaining powers are transferred to Europe.
It is the formal end of Britain and England as nations.
Britain's 153 embassies around the world will be closed as the ink from the Queen's signature dries. (As Tony Blair refused to admit this has been agreed to, Jose Zapatero, the Prime Minister of Spain, confirmed it in a February 2005 radio broadcast.)
After the EU abolishes our 48 counties your address will change from 4 High St, Taunton, Somerset, Great Britain, to 4 High St, Taunton, Area K, European Union. (The glorious EU county "The South West Region" has had the postal address "Area K" assigned for over a decade.)
The Official National Anthem of the EU, which you should have known since 1971 is based on the melody "Ode to Joy" by Beethoven, formally replaces God save the Queen. The EU flag replaces the Union Jack, the red, blue and white nautical ensigns etc. (The EU Commission has already ordered (24.11.2005) our Merchant Navy to fly the EU flag in place of the red Ensign.)
The EU takes ownership and command of our Police, Army, Royal Navy, RAF, nuclear weapons, currency reserves, North Sea Oil. (See the EU Constitution below)
The UK Independence Party will be banned under the 1999 ruling of the European court of Justice case c274/99, where it was held that it is illegal to criticise the EU.
The Conservative, Labour and Lib-dem parties will be abolished (only pan EU parties like the EPP or PES are allowed -see clause I.46.4 of the EU Constitution). It will then be blindingly obvious to even the dumbest politician there is no reason to keep Westmister open, and that the EU has the legal right to c
8

SNP hypocrisy,

12/07/2008 17:09:42
The only SNP earthquake that might happen in Glasgow East is if the smirking little fat man let's one loose....
9

SNP hypocrisy,

12/07/2008 17:11:55
Evia, the SNP believe in Independence in Europe. They wnat to scrap the pound, and be at the mercy of EU bankers. Do learn soemthing about what they stand for.
10

SNP hypocrisy,

12/07/2008 17:13:02
Interesting that you seem to ignore the obvious fact that this poll was NOT taken in Glasgow East - but was painted over that seat as though it was. Isn't that just a tad undemocratic and a clear example of manipulation? Reality is that Labour members campaiging in the area have recorded 65% of voters in one area of the seat stating that they will vote Labour on the day. How about Yougov doing an HONEST Poll in the actual seat, instead of taking a poll elsewhere and claiming this is how people think there. The ridiculous figure that Yougov gave the SNP of 49% of the vote was the most disturbing manipulation of opinion poll statistics I have yet come across. Why talk to the monkey when you can talk to the organ grinder. Yougov, take an honest poll in Glasgow East and stop lying to the public about what they think!
11

Conan the Librarian™,

12/07/2008 17:49:24
10
You should be able to clutch one in this lot too.

http://www.blog.thesietch.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/straw-bale-on-field.jpg
12

Roy,

12/07/2008 19:37:20
Labour?

Spine?

13

Suomi,

Salo,Finland 12/07/2008 20:50:54
My experience of cavassing is that it all depends on wshether they vote.The anecdotal evidense just now from Glasgow East suggests an SNP victory.I hope so,but let ujs see.At worst; I think that the SNP will collapse the Labour majority in nthat constituency and that will facilitate the decline of Labour in Scotland.The only way back is for Labour to engage with the Scottish nations asirations and a tendecy to actively listen to the voters.Meantime,I wish the SNP candidate every success
14

Ned,

Morningside 12/07/2008 21:56:06
I have a feeling that Labour will get in but with a highly reduced majority.
In the good old days of old labour it was the working class against the conservatives .
Now the real issue in this election is The Union or Scottish independence.
Personally I dont like Labour and the candidate i would vote for doesent really have much chance ( but life is full of surprises).
15

Plug-,

12/07/2008 22:05:10
SNP hypocrisy comment #9: 'the SNP believe in Independence in Europe. They wnat to scrap the pound, and be at the mercy of EU bankers.'

As opposed to The Bank of England, who set their rates in accordance with what will suit the South east of England.

There's none so blind as those who choose not to see, eh?. Sigh.
16

SNP hypocrisy,

13/07/2008 15:43:47
This poll was extremely bogus and misleading - since it was not done in the Glasgow Eat seat but discussed as though it was.

The new ICM Poll of today (from Glasgow East) is more accurate though showing that Labour will romp home in the Glasgow East seat. An ICM poll for the Sunday Telegraph of 500 voters in the constituency put Labour on 47% of the vote and the SNP on a poor 33%.
17

SNP hypocrisy,

13/07/2008 15:51:14
17 Plug-, are you somehow denying that the SNP's policy is 'Independence in Europe'? Are you daft?

It very much is their sole-policy and not only do they plan to scrap the pound, and put Scotland at the mercy of EU bankers, but they also plan to scrap the monarchy. Interesting that the SNP never quite say what they actually mean or actually intend, instead they pu$$y foot around and never give a full or complete answer.

Consider the Jeremy Paxman interview of this week, where Salmond could not even give Paxman a straight answer when Paxman asked him if the SNP would fulfill it's election promises. How can anyone believe someone like Salmond who promised the earth to the electorate just last year, but this year cannot even commit himself to delivering on the very same promises.
18

Evia,

13/07/2008 17:19:01
9
SNP hypocrisy,
12/07/2008 17:11:55
Evia, the SNP believe in Independence in Europe. They wnat to scrap the pound, and be at the mercy of EU bankers. Do learn soemthing about what they stand for.


I did not say I vote for SNP but I would vote for any party that would get us out of the EU with all the corruption and stupid laws.

The only reason I would vote SNP if I lived in Glasgow East is because I would like to see lying, cheating Brown get such a bloody nose that he would bleed to death. The man is a danger to the British people and only interested in getting his £10.000,000 for ratifying the Lisbon Treaty that would put us entirely under the control of the EU. We would be better out of the EU and into EFTA.
19

Saor Alba-Free Scotland,

Scotland 13/07/2008 18:28:32
That Candy-man guy is all over the Herald like a rash

http://www.sundayherald.com/oped/opinion/display.var.2392754.0.0.php

Saor Alba
20

EWB,

UK 13/07/2008 18:34:37
Thanks, Evia #7 and #20, for spelling out what the future of the scenario is that Benedict Arnold #1 rather credulously presents as: "in Scotland the unionism of the future is European Unionism rather than British unionism, which is dying on its feet."

This is clearly a case of "out of the frying pan into the fire" and the SNP's claim of "an independent Scotland in Europe" is quite fradulent. There will be no independence for formerly independent member states in the EU-SSR.

If Scotland wants out of the Union with the rest of the UK, then she should model herself on Switzerland or Norway. I can just imagine how keen superstate Europa will be to declare Scotland's oil to be a common European resource.
21

donald,

glasgow 14/07/2008 01:32:34
What spine?)
22

Eve,

Scotland 14/07/2008 21:08:33
#22 EWB: Sometimes you've got to be open minded!! Personly as a life time suporter Scottish Indepedence, I belive the EU is best for Scotland while we're still in the UK, so to speak. But after the union ends I'm NOT to sure! I think it something that we should be open minded too and possibly a referedum in the future for an independent Scotland.

#7 Evia: Oh really the only evil union I see is the union of the Treaty. Personaly I'd rather see the EU flag than the union Jack any day. Also no one Puts "Grate Brittain" on the envopes. I never recived mail with that put on the address. I've seen post that has come from France and they have Eccouse (NOT the right spelling sorry BUT I mean the French word for Scotland)


 

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