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By-election: 'The SNP is on a roll and likely to do very well'



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THE by-election to choose a new MP for Glasgow East is a contest the Labour Party could do without.
It comes at a time when Labour nationally is in the doldrums, Gordon Brown's popularity is at an all-time low and the party in Scotland has just been left leaderless.

And when voters in the constituency, which includes some of the most deprived co
mmunities in the country, go to the polls on July 24 they will be doing much more than deciding who sits in the House of Commons on their behalf.

The result will be taken as symbolic of the mood of voters not just across Scotland but throughout the UK.

If the SNP were able to snatch victory in a constituency which has traditionally been one of Labour's safest seats, it would be hailed as another nail in the coffin of Gordon Brown's government.

If Labour manages to hang on, almost certainly with a dramatically reduced majority, it could be seen as giving the Prime Minister some much-needed respite.

The SNP has a track record of stunning by-election triumphs in Glasgow. Margo MacDonald's victory in Govan in 1973 and her husband Jim Sillars' win in the same seat in 1988 were important turning points in Scottish politics.

The Nationalists are understandably talking down their chances, saying what a mountain they have to climb. Labour did take over 60 per cent of the vote last time, after all. And Labour activists claim that while voters in other recent by-elections have been ready to say "I've always voted Labour in the past, but not this time", the party's voters in Glasgow East say they are staying loyal.

But after its victory at last year's Scottish Parliament elections, the SNP is still on a roll and is likely to do extremely well, even if they cannot in the end quite wipe out Labour's 13,507 majority.

David Marshall is resigning on health grounds after nearly 30 years as MP. But Labour's decision to hold the by-election during the traditional Glasgow Fair holiday will do nothing to improve turnout. And that may well be to the party's disadvantage.

Regardless of timing, the turnout for a by-election would almost certainly be below the 48 per cent recorded in the constituency at the last General Election in 2005.

But holding the poll while many people are on holiday will mean even fewer voters taking part – and those that do are likely to be the ones who are angry enough to want change.





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  • Last Updated: 07 July 2008 9:39 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Glasgow East by-election
 
1

ochone,

Sauchie, clack's 07/07/2008 11:33:03
Ah yes, electioneering West coast unionist style, don't you just love it.

Already the Daily Record has made mention of the fact that the SNP man is, 'unmarried', and just today George Galloway in the same paper reminds folk that Margaret Curran is a catholic.

What fun, and it's only just started.
2

roughrider,

Glasgow 07/07/2008 11:35:21
"David Marshall is resigning on health grounds after nearly 30 years as MP".Oh really I can think of at least £500.000 worth of sleazy reasons other than health as to why he has jumped ship.
I hope labour get a good gubbing from the east Glasgow's constituents.

3

Teamdroid,

07/07/2008 11:44:49
Following the selection of Ms Curran as the candidate, I would expect the Labour campaign to get extremely negative and vicious. No button, be it innuendo, sectarianism, or flat out bribery (the timing of the carrier deal announcement already counts for that), will remain unpushed.
Look how negative they were in Crewe & Nantwich. Breathtakingly hypocritical too - trying to portray the self-made Tory candidate as a toff, while their own was daughter of the previous incumbent with her own little private mansion.
The crucial (and tragic) difference is that while there was a large Fleet Street media disposed to reporting any and all such tactics, Scotland's media, in Labour's pocket, will not. Witness the Herald website today, closing of all comment on this by-election while printing inane hagiographies of Ms Curran.

And of course, this article opens with a sentence which begs the question: if Labour could well do without this contest, why is it going ahead? Marshall would hardly have been the first MP on long-term sick leave. You may find the answer in the Mail on Sunday, but don't expect to see it appear in the Scotsman or Herald any time soon.
4

Jock Politicaljunkie,

Glasgow 07/07/2008 11:53:07
I would agree with the above assessment that the SNP have a very real chance of taking this seat from Labour. Would predict that they will be fairly relaxed about their chances however - as I for one - see this by-election as a win-win situation for the SNP.

a. They take the seat from Labour and in doing so topple Gordon Brown, plunging the Labour Party into a double leadership election both north and south of the border. Civil War will break out and splits will open up all over the place. If THIS nomination (for the 3rd safest seat in Scotland) has been seen as such a poisoned challis that they look like now FINALLY appointing their FIFTH CHOICE CANDIDATE in Margaret Curran, --- Who will WANT to take over from either Gordon OR UUendy?? ---> Cameron is a shoe-in come May 2010 - and the Independence Referendum is won around September 2010.

b. Labour hold on to the seat but with a massively reduced majority. Gordon Brown survives, for now, but is fatally wounded; losing even more authority and looking even more like a loser. Brown has already lost the Press and continues to suffer press stories, now habitually angled in the doom and disaster mode. ---> Cameron is a shoe-in come May 2010 - and the Independence Referendum is won around September 2010.




5

Grahamski,

Falkirk 07/07/2008 12:18:17
1.
Ochone, aren't you just a wee bit embarrassed by your fellow nationalists making you look foolish? You claim the campaign will be fought dirty by the 'unionists' (And don't you just love the delusional nat view that everybody against them belongs to a unionist hegemony? Absolute nonsense of course, but useful for their cultish adolescent political view).
2.
Roughrider,
Didn't you read post 1.? It's meant to be the unionist conspiracy that fights dirty! You let the side down by mudslinging. oops, care to apologise Ochone? Nah, didn't think so...
3.
Teamdroid gives us a mixture of mudslinging and pathetic paranoid whining. The Herald have closed their boards for comment? That's because the natz have a nasty habit of libelling Labour Party members and making outrageous attacks on Herald employees. That's illegal and actionable as far as the libel and against the Herald's duty of care to its employees.
4.
Politicaljunkie,
The natz will be relaxed about it because they know they have no chance in Glasgow East. After all the breast beating and bravado the natz have had a look and realise they're stuffed. Maybe shouldn't have described the constituency as a slum so gleefully eh cybernatz?
6

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 07/07/2008 12:31:49
Anyone who has a chance of beating stupid labour has my vote at the moment. However when the dust settles and we get the General Election, Tory is the ONLY way to go.
7

Talorthane,

07/07/2008 12:35:06
4 Jock Politicaljunkie

"THIS nomination (for the 3rd safest seat in Scotland) has been seen as such a poisoned challis that they look like now FINALLY appointing their FIFTH CHOICE CANDIDATE in Margaret Curran"

One thing that had been overlooked is the shortlist that was prepared for this seat.

It now seems universally accepted that Margaret Curran is the fifth choice for this seat, behind George Ryan, Stephen Purcell, Frank McAveety and Lesley Quinn.

However, that assumption rests on the acceptance that the short-list for the constituency was a sham, and that the other two shortlisted canditates were never in contention, and would never be considered for acceptance by the party.

If Labour do not want to accept that this is how they do business, then the other two shortlisted candidates must have been ruled out for other reasons since the shortlist was made.

Therefore, Irene Graham and Doug Maughan, were considered before Margaret Curran.

So Margaret Curran is actually SEVENTH choice for the seat !!!
8

MoClana,

07/07/2008 12:38:09
Labours third safest seat in the country and...quote 'which includes some of the most deprived communities in the country'

Now fancy that eh !
9

hassan i sabbah,

edinburgh 07/07/2008 12:42:10
Oh yes petrolheid way to go!Tory.A vote for selfish privilege,greed and venal nepotism. Suits you down to the ground.Good luck with that.
10

hertscot,

07/07/2008 12:46:30
'The SNP is on a roll and likely to do very well'

GOOD

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head

Tory - Never again, PLEASE!
11

Yeti,

07/07/2008 12:49:08
Take a butchers at this:

http://www.allmediascotland.com/media_releases/2952/eleven_glasgow_labour_councillors_under_investigation
12

Mikey,

07/07/2008 13:26:10
Grahamski once again demonstrates how out of touchski he is! Give it a rest buddy!

Don't you get fed up being wrong ALL the time? Who is feeding you all this unionist guff? Peter Mandelson? You remind me of a boring old colonel, somewhere in Tunbridge Wells, bemoaning the loss of empire! You're so behind the times you make dinosaurs look recent!
13

steve 1511,

aberdeen 07/07/2008 13:26:21
davis marshall resigned and ran away due to the hocus pocus with his expenses,and the stress of what to spend the money on
so wee wendy ran away, david marshall ran away,the first four? maybe more candidates for the east end ran away,broon refuses to visit the east end so he has ran away,what is it with labour and facing the facts of fifty years of failure in the east end of glasgow
14

Sanny,

Glasgow 07/07/2008 13:35:01
We keep hearing the excuse of a "big boy did it and ran away" but nobody knows who the 'big boy' is. But now we know, It was Labour Chancers led by the Arch Muppet Gordon - Son O The Manse - Brown. Let's get them Throw Labour out. All they mean to the working man these days is Hard Work and no Recompense.
15

M.Corleone,

2nd Vatican State...... Coatbridge 07/07/2008 13:58:59
Let's roll big balloon oot
16

Teamdroid,

07/07/2008 14:40:58
Oh no, Grahamski called me paranoid! It's true! The name-callers ARE out to get me...

If it was about insulting the journalists at the Herald, G, how come comments are still permitted on the journalists' blogs themselves? If it's about libelling Labour Party members, why aren't ALL comment boards suspended? I could call X a Y on any story's comment section.
17

FrancesP,

07/07/2008 15:26:46
#1. I just took a peek at Galloway's article. He really has gone into complete 'barking mad' mode, hasn't he? According to him -

1) The Glasgow East by-election is the new Battle of Stalingrad.
2) If Scotland became independent, Orkney and Shetland would take their oil and apply to re-join Norway (although I think there might be a bit of a language barrier there after all this time).
3) If Scotland became independent, it would be the new Slovakia, which 'only has its wrath to keep it warm' (what?).
4) Glasgow East should enthusiastically vote for Margaret Curran in spite of the fact that "she is now neither soft nor idealistic. Her heart has hardened as her principles melted."

The latter point reminds me a little of Tam Dalyell's nomination speech for Sir Patrick Cormack as Commons Speaker, which bizarrely started with the words - "the candidate I am supporting is far from perfect, he has a tendency towards pomposity". For what it's worth, Cormack went on to be soundly defeated.
18

Jock Politicaljunkie,

Glasgow 07/07/2008 15:29:41

#7, Taylorthane at 12:35:06,

I stand corrected - Margaret Curran is not the FIFTH choice candidate, but the SEVENTH choice candidate. Totally forgot about the other two on the short list. I think it was Brian Taylor in his blog "Labour lagging in by-election race" that described them as makeweights, so I guess I must just have dismissed them out of hand - just like labour did.


#5, Grahamski at 12:18:17,

Do try to calm down. Labour losing may be a blessing to you and your cause in the long run.
Your post is a bit OTT, I must point out that:-

Comment #1, was highlighting totally pointless observations by the Daily Record regarding one candidate's single status and another's catholic faith. - or is your problem that YOU regard these facts as somehow important?

Comment #2, is speculating as to why the old MP David Marshall claimed £500,000 over just six years to run an office from his own house with just one member of staff. - or is it that YOU think this is not at all important and not at all worth investigating? (as I believe it is about to be). Presumably you are similarly as well disposed to that Tory, down south, a few months back, that was caught paying his son a full salary for doing he-haw work for his constituency office as he was away at university at the time? Sleaze and corruption are unacceptable from ANY party.

Comment #3, is merely lamenting the lack of a balanced press in Scotland to provide the populous with all of the facts. The regurgitation (I understand it's called Churnalism) of labour party press releases as news, when the facts are often at total variance to the story published, is rather depressing. There may be light at the end of the tunnel, however, read Robbie Dinwoodie's blog of the 29th of May 2008, where he slates labour for a press release/story that, when he checked the figures, just didn't add up. Quote:- [The press release itself was a bit of a stinker: "Single outcome agreements 'a bureaucratic and under-funded
19

Jock Politicaljunkie,

Glasgow 07/07/2008 15:33:16
guess I should have split this up....


....Comment #3, is merely lamenting the lack of a balanced press in Scotland to provide the populous with all of the facts. The regurgitation (I understand it's called Churnalism) of labour party press releases as news, when the facts are often at total variance to the story published, is rather depressing. There may be light at the end of the tunnel, however, read Robbie Dinwoodie's blog of the 29th of May 2008, where he slates labour for a press release/story that, when he checked the figures, just didn't add up. Quote:- [The press release itself was a bit of a stinker: "Single outcome agreements 'a bureaucratic and under-funded mess' says Labour," it ran, a self-referential case of the party simply quoting its own assertions.]

Comment #4, is only my opinion of the consequences of the two possible outcomes in the by-election. I am not a nazi, I am not full of bravado, nor am I beating my chest. I am a free person and a follower of all strands of politics. I am not, nor have I ever been, a member or activist of ANY political party. Lastly if you re-read my comment you will find no reference to the constituency as a slum. I have described it throughout as a SEAT.




20

Senga Jean,

07/07/2008 16:43:41
WHAT? The Labour MP causing the By-election claimed £5oo.ooo expenses for offices and staff which turned out to be his council house and wife and daughter! Outragious! Many of his constituents have to resort to Paddies Market to survive and guess what? He favoured developers to sell the market. At what price? (I mean to his constituents)Wink ,Wink,nudge ,nudge, say no more.
21

Pocket Dictionary,

07/07/2008 16:56:20
Labour gave Robert Mugabe a hard time for election fiddling and moving the goal posts - wonder what he would make of the selection process for the Labour candidate for Glasgow East?
22

Raj Persaud's ghost writer,

07/07/2008 16:57:02
The best way to get a continual and bountiful supply of mushrooms, is to keep them in the dark and feed them lots of manure.

Labours strategy for the past 50 years in the area.
23

Raj Persaud's ghost writer,

07/07/2008 16:58:16
#21 - they preach morals at mugabe and use every scurelous trick in the book to disenfranchise voters at home.

Hypocrites.
24

Linda,

Edinburgh 07/07/2008 17:07:34
Voters of Glasgow East must be mad to let Labour treat them with such contempt then vote for a part time MP. But then since devolution all Scottish MPs could go part time and not be missed.
25

Nikostratos,

07/07/2008 17:21:56
All will be revealed on july 24th........so why not just chill out and wait?
26

Jwil,

07/07/2008 17:24:17
If Labour start to pile on the negatives during their campaign it will rebound on them like it did in Crewe, but I suspect they will be unable to restrain themselves. They are a rough lot. A recent example was the guy planted in the audience of QT from Mussleburgh. He sounded like a trained bouncer.
27

gus1940,

Edinburgh 07/07/2008 17:38:28
Marshall took £500,000 in expenses over 6 years.

I understand he was an MP for about 30 years - so how much has he claimed in total?
28

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 07/07/2008 17:39:05
Come back Maggie! All is forgiven!
29

Eve,

Scotland 07/07/2008 21:40:52
#28 A(HO)FH: Speak for yer self!!
No one else or few folk will share that opinion.
30

McMadman,

http://scottishreferendum2008.blogspot.com 08/07/2008 00:22:19
Independent on Sunday 6th July

Labour's campaign to hold on to a parliamentary seat in Glasgow descended into farce yesterday, as, less than three weeks before polling day, the favourite to become the party's candidate withdrew from the race at the last minute.

George Ryan, a city councillor who was widely expected to be named as Labour's candidate in Glasgow East this week, stood down, citing "family reasons" after he missed a party meeting on Friday.

The announcement was made amid rumours that allegations concerning Mr Ryan's involvement in a housing benefit fraud several years ago – of which he was cleared – were to be revived during the campaign.
31

McMadman,

http://scottishreferendum2008.blogspot.com 08/07/2008 00:22:53
From the Sunday Herald, 6th July:

A Labour MP used almost £500,000 of taxpayers' money over six years to help run an office from his home which was staffed by his wife.

David Marshall, 67, who has quit to spark the Glasgow East by-election on July 24, used the expenses to pay for a constituency office and staff.

But Mr Marshall's office was in his semi-detached Glasgow home and he employed his wife Tina as his secretary. It is also believed he paid his daughter Christina to work from his home from the same pool of money.

A Commons spokesman said MPs can use their home as an office but only claim for additional costs like 'extra phone lines, heating and lighting'.

From 2001-2007, Mr Marshall claimed £91,000 incidental expenses provision, which is used to pay for constituency offices, plus £400,000 for staff and £11,000 for their travel expenses.

He listed only one member of staff on the Commons register - Christina Marshall. It was unclear if this was his wife Tina or daughter Christina.

Neighbours and political sources said his wife had worked for him - with Labour ex-Minister Brian Wilson saying that Mrs Marshall had worked for her husband as a constituency secretary.

Mr Marshall is said to be suffering clinical depression. Party sources said he felt 'under pressure' over the expenses allegations.

The family refuses to comment on why he spent so much on office expenses, why he ran an office from home and what family members were on his payrol.
32

Brian Hill,

Edinburgh 08/07/2008 12:39:47
This will be a contest between Hope for the Future and Fear of the Unknown. A beaten dog will often crawl back to its master because it's confidence and self esteem is so low it fears life without him, cruel as he may be.

Humans who have been psychologically and economically abused for decades are in the same frame of mind, they fear the unknown and stay buried in their bunker because limited as it may be it's what they know and it offers a degree of security.

The SNP needs a loud happy campaign with simple leaflets showing how important this electorate actually is in terms of being able to change the polictical landscape, not only of Scotland but of the UK.

Salmond has already laid the foundation for this scenario, leaflets and workers must emphasise it to the point it has real meaning for a people who have felt undervalued for too long.

These people are vital to the future of Scotland and they must be made aware of that. It will be of major psychological value to them in terms of self esteem, self value, renewed confidence and hope.

It will of course also be of major political significance to the SNP when they take the seat.

But just one point: Don't make any promises you can't keep, these people have been abused too many times in the past.

 

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