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Published Date: 10 June 2009
KENNY MacAskill claimed yesterday that the Scottish Government was on target to meet its commitment of 1,000 extra police after new figures showed that the number of officers in Scotland had risen above 17,000 for the first time.
The justice secretary said the extra officers would provide a more visible police presence and more reassurance for the public.

The SNP came to power in 2007 promising 1,000 extra police officers but this dropped to 500 after ministers studied th
e state of the public finances.

The target was pushed back up to 1,000 extra officers after the Conservatives demanded the change in return for support for the SNP Budget.

After a sluggish start, caused by the retiral of many officers, considerable progress has been made and yesterday's figures now suggest that the 1,000-officer pledge is likely to met in time for the next election in 2011.

The statistics showed that, at the end of March this year, there were a record 17,408 police officers employed across the country. That is 373 more than at the end of December last year and is a rise of 821 from March 2008.

The figures showed that the number of officers had increased in all eight of Scotland's police forces.

There were increases in all forces, from two in Dumfries and Galloway to 249 in Strathclyde.

Mr MacAskill said: "For the first time on record there are now more than 17,000 police officers in Scotland, serving our communities and policing our streets."

And he added: "These latest figures show we are well on course to meet that commitment."

The number of police officers is now above the total of 17,625 figure the parliament has demanded of the SNP as proof it has met its target but, because of retirals and those leaving the force, the total is expected to dip again before climbing back up to the target again in time for the 2011 deadline.

Richard Baker, Labour's justice spokesman, welcomed the increase, but added: "Much of this progress has been achieved by individual police boards.

"Police boards should be praised for their commitment to local policing as should the local authorities across the country who are providing so many officers from their funding."

Bill Aitken, for the Tories, claimed credit for the increase. He said Conservative pressure had led to the government increasing the number of extra officers from 500 to 1,000.

Mr Aitken said: "Scottish Conservatives are responsible for this success. Every single police officer above 500 extra is as a direct result of our pressure on the Scottish Government in the 2008 and 2009 budgets.

"If it had not been for us, Scotland would only have had 500 extra police officers. If it had been left up to Labour, there would be none at all."





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  • Last Updated: 09 June 2009 9:35 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Law and Order
 
1

Jerry Springer,

09/06/2009 22:44:23
Great credit is due to the Conservatives.

Bill Aitken is correct. If it was not for them, then this would have been another manifesto pledge that the SNP would have reneged upon.
2

Alan B,

10/06/2009 00:19:27
So after all the unionist spin about broken promises the snp deliver again. Will be embarrassing for the unionist posters on this forum. I am sure they will be able to dredge up some more scare stories though.
3

Gregor Addison,

Glasgow 10/06/2009 00:23:27
#1 Jerry,

A minority government cannot force policy through, it has to find parties to negotiate with. I don't recall the Tory manifesto having a promise of 1000 more police. They came late to the party but their support is welcome. What a shame they can't seem to bring themselves to support minimum pricing. Maybe Bill Aitken should go away and think about that.
4

Brianwci,

10/06/2009 00:27:48
#2 Alan you fool...it wasn't MacAskill who delivered the extra police it was Bill Aitken!!!!

Not remember that scintillating speech he made in Holyrood where he was cheered to the rafters and sent Kenny Mac home to think again???

Neither do I oddly enough but he must have done something utterly amazing to bring off this achievement and him no even in the Government, ken?
5

Iainbroch,

10/06/2009 00:35:26
Will Gray be calling for MacAskills head again? It must have stuck in Hamishs craw to have to write the above headline!
6

Vivas,

Edinburgh 10/06/2009 00:51:11
SNP will fail in pledge to recruit 1000 extra police, says Labour - Glasgow Herald, Wednesday February 25, 2009

The SNP's pledge to provide 1000 extra officers by 2011 is set to fail, Scottish Labour warned yesterday prior to today's debate on community policing...
7

Jimmy Fae the West,

Hull 10/06/2009 01:28:46
Yes Mr Aitken, carping from the sidelines is how you run a country. Then again I suppose that is their only position as a Tory because an English version of Jim Murphy will be sent to the Northern Territories/region to take any decisions, whilst Bill and Annabel will still be carping from the sidelines. It should be remembered by Bill that any improvement in Scotland's fortunes is a retrograde step for the Conservatives. If i were Bill Aitken I would not be boasting too loudly about improving things in Scotland............................. in case his party find out.
8

Edward,

10/06/2009 01:50:52
SNP on target , again!
Its very good to have a 'can do' government for once
The unioists should be ashamed of themselves fr carping that the SNP Government would have broken its promise of 1000 Police recruits by the end of its 4 year term. Yet we have 800 so far and were only half way through
I wonder if Mr 7% Gray will turn up at FMQ's on Thursday?
9

Colin B,

Bearsden 10/06/2009 02:12:29
Tories got this on the budget not the SNP who waste police time apprehending prisoners the SNP let out.
Too many of the coppers are doing admin work which they covet and indeed are promoted on and indeed get medals for.
10

Electric Hermit,

10/06/2009 02:23:31
"Bill Aitken, for the Tories, claimed credit for the increase."

Priceless!

11

donald,

glasgow 10/06/2009 05:02:47
Will the wee Gray man call for Bill Aitken's resigantion, or Jaquie Straw's?
12

donald,

glasgow 10/06/2009 05:07:08
Poor wee Grey. He must be confused at all these Holy City Meenister's resignations during election week. He must take some of the credit surely?
13

Voldemort,

Edinburgh 10/06/2009 05:48:50
1000 extra Police is all very well .... but what will they do ?

Will they go on the beat and combat violent crime, burglaries, rapes, murders, knife crime and antisocial behaviour ?

Or will they strategically placed to extract money from Motorists and other 'soft' targets ?

Time will tell ...

I would humbly submit however that what is the point in more Police when the courts let go almost everyone they catch !

After all we live in a day where the penalty for doing 90mph down an empty motorway on a dry day can be greater than that for stabbing a granny and taking her purse !
14

steve 1511,

aberdeen 10/06/2009 06:16:05
the SNP working for the people of scotland
lybour working for their masters at westmidden, and to fill their pockets at the expense of the taxpayer


straight jacket for big banana smile broon
15

Angleland Isover,

10/06/2009 06:37:20
S.N.P - Working for Scotland.
labour - Fiddling for Scotland.
16

Jimmy Le Pie,

10/06/2009 07:16:51
Well done again Kenny and the first class SNP government!!!

Keep up the excellent work!!

A VOTE FOR NEW LABOUR SLEAZE IS A WASTED VOTE -VOTE SNP.
17

English Voice,

10/06/2009 07:36:15
Interesting story for us Unionists!

Having flatly denied that the SNP have actually delivered more police, and having campaigned in Glasgow East and Glenrothes that the SNP wee lying that when they claimed police numbers were increasing, we are now happy to take credit for the increase!

Avanti the Union!
18

buzzer,

Aberdeen 10/06/2009 07:56:23
15# Voldemort. Fair point sir but in Aberdeen on a Friday night the police presence seems to be everywhere and it now feels safer to go out now and again.
19

The Tin Man,

10/06/2009 08:13:40
A great acheivement for Goldie and the Scottish Conservative Party. Well done to the SNP for honouring their commitment to the Tories to provide more police in exchange for Tory support for their 2008 budget. Shame they needed the Tories to force the exec into implementing their own manifesto commitment in the first place, though.
20

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10/06/2009 08:41:30
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21

The Tin Man,

10/06/2009 08:46:56
#23 Dave

Maybe the Tories will force the exec into keeping their promise to keep teacher numbers the same as school rolls fall, for the next budget. Go Annabelle!
22

Luigiana,

A Safer Scotland 10/06/2009 08:58:42
I am so glad the Scottish minority government have managed to achieve this difficult target.

After all the flak they have taken, particularly from the Scottish-Labour media, I expect they will now be humbly queuing up to offer their apologies........

I won't hold my breath.
23

Linda,

Edinburgh 10/06/2009 09:01:33
#5
To be fair to Hamish, when I worked for a newspaper it was the sub editor who wrote the headline not the journalist. Those working for the Sun got paid a fortune.

Mind you it explains why some of the Scotsman's anti SNP headlines bear no relation to the facts which may or may not have been edited out of the story below.
24

Andy Ritchie's left boot,

10/06/2009 09:09:29
Oh dear, what will the Scotsman do? The SNP managing to implement another part of their manifesto despite the virulent knee-jerk opposition from Labour in particular to anything the SNP proposes.

I wonder how Ian Gray will talk his way out of the corner into which he has painted himself.
25

For Scotlands Future,

Vote for the SNP 10/06/2009 09:23:24
This can't be true because The Herald and Annabelle told be so.

#1 Jerry Wufus. Don't you mean it would have been another manifesto broken promise that they have failed to keep??
26

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10/06/2009 09:40:35
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27

M78,

Tain 10/06/2009 09:43:26
The S.N.P. is a minority government and can only implement manifesto committments by persuading the other unionist parties.
Considering this, the S.N.P. are doing a brilliant job as was demonstrated in the recent European elections.
The other point is that the S.N.P. are facing a hostile press as can be demonstrated by some of the utterances by journalists ,even in Scotland's quality paper--sorry Hamish, Gerry,David e.t.c.
28

The Tin Man,

10/06/2009 09:47:31
#31 M78

More accurate to reality: The S.N.P. is a minority government and can only implement manifesto committments by being persuaded by the other parties.
29

mr broon,

Edinburgh 10/06/2009 09:53:52
It is amazing how a political party that was completely wiped out 12 years ago by the Scottish Electorate, and which still only has one Westminster MP, and a handful of MSPs, continues to live in cloud cuckoo land.

At every election ever since, the vast majority of Scots voters have continued to reject the 'In Branch' Tories to the point that they have become unelectable.

Now we have Mr Magoo claiming that if it weren't for the 'In Branch' Tories alleged pressure on the Scottish Government we would not have extra Police?

Stop trying to insult the voters intelligence and go and collect your pension now!
30

The Tin Man,

10/06/2009 09:57:23
#33 mr broon

Hard to believe, isn't it. True, though.
31

Davy,

10/06/2009 09:57:57
Well done
Now that said, we now need a political system that reduces the cause of crime.
A long term plan
We need a system in place where people respect, and are respected in the community, work place & home. A society which produces less stress would be a start. Stressed out individuals are very inclined to stress out others they are in contact with. Then you have it effecting, the home life which then effects the kids. The kids then get in to trouble because of the stress in the home. People at work get stressed, then the weekend comes a long they get drunk & in some case the police have to be involved.
So we will then need even more police officers, if this continues.
Society needs to look at its self;
So if our SMPs could pull this off in the long term we could then reduce the amount of police officers needed.
Scotland would then be a better place for all.
32

Herry Oaksters,

10/06/2009 10:13:36
Can the hoostmon not hunt down Elmer(Iain Gray) Fudd
and ask him what he thinks of the brilliant SNP gvmnt.
Come out of your hole Gtay and face the facts.
33

Mèths,

10/06/2009 11:08:44
"Shame they needed the Tories to force the exec into implementing their own manifesto commitment in the first place, though."

What part of minority government or consensus politics don't you understand?
34

Big Dave Fae The Rigs,

SNP Heartlands 10/06/2009 11:10:00
Extra 373 officers in Scottish police recruitment surge

By Tim Pauling

Press & Journal

Published: 10/06/2009

Police forces in the north and north-east recruited more than 70 officers in the first three months of the year, it was revealed yesterday.

New figures show that police numbers across Scotland increased by 373 between September-December 2008 and January-March 2009, the largest quarterly increase on record.

The total number of officers now stands at 17,048, the largest number on record.

The increase of 814 since March 2007 put the Scottish Government three quarters of the way to meeting its pledge for 1,000 new officers halfway into its four-year term.
35

Big Dave Fae The Rigs,

10/06/2009 11:13:34
The only Police Number increase the Tories can claim, was the increase in numbers in Yorkshire during the miner's strike, when police attacked pickets and bludgeoned their way through the picket lines.
36

Number 6,

Germany 10/06/2009 11:21:07
Once again the SNP walk all over the foaming at the mouth, hectoring cabal at Holyrood.Both they and the scottish "media" worked themselves into a frenzy over this, yet here we are, the SNP delivering Again.

Is there any Scot left who still does not get it? Is there any Scot here who will still be voting for Labour in Scotland?. Show yourselfs, you have no shame so you have nothing to fear from coast to coast ridicule.

Useless, ineffectual and policy free. It should be an offence to vote for any of the unionista parties London controlled detatchments at Holyrood.
37

alanh,

ek 10/06/2009 13:21:38
why is this "news"paper so reluctant to praise our govt and its good record?
38

Eckles,

Edinburgh 10/06/2009 13:38:57
Why don't they put together the article that was published on 24th May and give a full, balanced version of the story:
http://news.scotsman.com/inverness/Backlog-at-police-college-puts.5297659.jp

It's all very good having loads of cops on the streets, but do they know what they are doing? In the recent history of policing in the UK we have seen that the TSU of the Met only get two days training a year in relation to this type of work, something which is replicated in the CSU in Lothian and Borders. The Met are now facing serious questions over their handling of the G20 and L&B are facing questions over the handling off the search for Mr Goulding. Both of these cases highlight the lack of training given to the officers.

39

frank mcbride,

lusitania 10/06/2009 13:45:12
#39, Big Dave............

25% of those "police officers" were Service personnel.
40

Davy,

10/06/2009 13:50:22
I do believe you are correct They belonged to the armed forces, which of course was denied.
41

Sgian Achlais,

10/06/2009 13:53:33
More Police on the streets is a good thing. The SNP said they would deliver it. The Tories said they would back it. The SNP make sensible policies and other people agree. That is great.

Labour have ignored the problem for the last 12 years while in government across the UK. Refused to honour the pay deal showing typical labour lack of integrity.

Everything the SNP says it will do in its manifesto it has tried to do. Our manifesto is a statement of what we intend to achieve. The result of the voting is determined by the other parties. The rules of Scottish parliament reduce what can be passed and what gets forced through.

Compare that to Labour in London and Edinburgh for the last 12 years. Majority governments but failed to deliver time and time again.

The SNP are doing a far better job than I ever expected. When you compare them to labour it is like night and day.
42

Willie Mor,

10/06/2009 14:40:42
With police numbers at a record high maybe they might now have sufficient resources to investigate fraudlent invoices involving MP's handing over thousands in cash to bogus tradesmen in pubs.

Oh sorry, but the police don't do investigations like that because it is the preserve of the London Metropolitan Police.

Ah, at least Jim Devine MP will now sleep easy in his bed.
43

Electric Hermit,

10/06/2009 15:22:09
15
Voldemort

"Will they go on the beat and combat violent crime, burglaries, rapes, murders, knife crime and antisocial behaviour ?"

Doesn't matter. You'll still be whining about it either way.

"I would humbly submit however that what is the point in more Police when the courts let go almost everyone they catch !"

So that's why the prisons are overcrowded!

44

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10/06/2009 15:25:57
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45

Electric Hermit,

10/06/2009 15:31:05
21
The Tin Man

"A great acheivement for Goldie and the Scottish Conservative Party. Well done to the SNP for honouring their commitment to the Tories to provide more police in exchange for Tory support for their 2008 budget. Shame they needed the Tories to force the exec into implementing their own manifesto commitment in the first place, though."

Another clever ploy on the part of Alex Salmond and his team tricking the Tories into supporting the budget by pretending to cut the increase in police numbers to 500. Wee Eck is way too smart for the unionists.

46

The Tin Man,

10/06/2009 15:55:54
#49 Hermit

The idea that he was a liar did cross my mind. I see you have similar suspicions.
47

Davy,

10/06/2009 16:11:21
FLUB,
Aye
The antediluvian period begins with the Creation and ends with the destruction of all life on the earth except those saved with Noah in the Ark 1,656 years later.
The elements of the narrative include some of the best-known stories in the bible - the Creation itself, Adam and Eve, and Cain and Abel - followed by the genealogies tracing the descendants of Cain and Seth, the third son of Adam. (These genealogies provide the framework for the biblical chronology, in the form A begat B in his Xth year).
The Bible speaks of this era as being a time of great wickedness. There were Gibborim (giants) in the earth in those days as well as Nephilim; some translations identify the two as one and the same. The Gibborim were unusually powerful; Genesis calls them "heroes of old, men of renown;" (Enoshi Ha Shem). The antediluvian period ended when God sent the Flood to wipe out all life except Noah, his family, and the animals they took with them. Nevertheless, the Nephilim (literally meaning 'fallen ones', from the Hebrew root n-f-l 'to fall') reappear much later in the Biblical narrative, in Numbers 13:31-33 (where the spies sent forth by Moses report that there were Nephilim or "giants" in the Promised Land).
Writers such as William Whiston (A New Theory of the Earth 1696) and Henry Morris (The Genesis Flood 1961) describe the antediluvian period as follows:
• People lived much longer than people today, typically between 700-950 years, as reported in the genealogies of Genesis;
• The Earth contained many more people than the Earth contained in 1696. Whiston calculated that as many as 500 million humans may have been born in the antediluvian period, based on assumptions about lifespans and fertility rates;
• There were no clouds or rain. Instead, the Earth was watered by mists which rose from the Earth. (Another interpretation is that the Earth was covered completely by a global cloud layer; the upper waters mentioned in the Creation. This is commonly called t
48

frank mcbride,

lusitania 10/06/2009 17:04:09
'48, FLUB.

YES, I am anyway.

I experienced them at Ravenscraig, though not a miner.

Where wer you at the destruction of Scotland's industrial base?

Working, as an apprentice advisor, for some Unionist Westminster MP/Lord?
49

Electric Hermit,

10/06/2009 17:29:47
50
The Tin Man

"I see you have similar suspicions."

Your hallucinations are your own problem.

50

Sgian Achlais,

10/06/2009 17:43:09
50The Tin Man, 10/06/2009 15:55:54
#49 Hermit

The idea that he was a liar did cross my mind. I see you have similar suspicions

================================

Recently I have noticed you step away from genuine comment to more political bias. Maybe my memory is fading but I recall your posts used to be much more reasonable and balanced. Please correct me if I am wrong and you have always been unbalanced and unreasonable.

To me it seems like a win win situation for all right minded people and parties. SNP suggest in manifesto 1000 extra police. Tories support this. Tories then insist that it is also included in the budget. SNP agree. Both parties vote for it in the budget. More police arrive on streets, more crimes are detected. A step/plod in the right direction. With limited resources to achieve the pledge I am pleased. Especially with high numbers of police retiring.

That is what I want from the Scottish Parliament. Good policies are supported and bad policies are debated and improved or rejected.

Labour and the Lib Dems still do not get it.
51

Andrew,

10/06/2009 19:54:32
SUPERB, as long as they're not all destined to be pen-pushers!
52

Observer,,

Glasgow 10/06/2009 20:27:45
Good news.

And not a water-boarder in sight Tam O' Shanter - this country does NOT have a Met.
53

Observer,,

10/06/2009 20:28:59
53 Oh sorry Tam I just realised that I picked you up wrong - a thousand apologies.

 

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