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Sarah Palin back in spotlight as figures show how Republicans spent a small fortune on new clothes for her



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Published Date: 23 October 2008
WHEN Sarah Palin heard she had been chosen by John McCain as the Republican presidential running mate, her first words may well have been: "But I don't have a thing to wear."



Newly-released accounts show the Republicans splashed out $150,000 (£92,000) on clothes and accessories for the vice-preside

ntial candidate in the weeks after her nomination.

Within days of her being chosen at the party's convention early last month, officials had spent $75,062.53 on the feisty Alaskan governor to kit her out at Neiman Marcus, the top store in Minneapolis where the gathering was being held.

As the world wowed to her signature red and black dress-suits and rimless glasses, the party continued to splash the cash: $9,447.71 at Macy's in Minneapolis, followed by

$49,425.74 at Saks Fifth Avenue in New York, with a more modest $5,102.71 down the road at Bloomingdales. The spending, covering the month of September, is thought to be the most lavish for any candidate in history, putting into perspective the $400 haircut for the Democrat primary candidate John Edwards that became an issue last year.

The other runners appear to have been more frugal: the presidential candidates, Mr McCain and Barack Obama, have reportedly been given small clothing allowances from their parties, while Joe Biden, Mr Obama's running mate, has had no help at all – a point likely to surprise few fashion commentators.

The stores themselves would give no details of what had been bought for, or by, Mrs Palin. Saks told The Scotsman: "We're going to decline (to say]. Unfortunately, this is a pass."

A glance at the Saks catalogue only adds to the puzzle. While you can lose your wallet buying upmarket Saks evening wear, the red dress-suits made famous by Mrs Palin start at $445 for a simple Diane von Furstenberg number, with even a top-line Piazza Sempione woollen two-button version costing $1,040.

It is possible, however, that she bought several of the same item, a necessity for travel and multiple campaign appearances.

To complement the clothing, the Republicans paid a further $4,700 for hair and make-up, with another $5,000 for men's and babywear, presumably to clothe her husband, Todd, and baby, Trig.

"I wonder how Joe the Plumber feels about his donation going to Sarah the Shopper," one Democrat told the New York Daily News.

Mr McCain's campaign said Mrs Palin's clothing would later be given to charity. "With all of the important issues facing the country right now, it's remarkable that we're spending time talking about pantsuits and blouses," a spokeswoman said.

One item for which Mrs Palin did not apparently charge the party was her spectacles. The Jazuo Kawasaki lightweight titanium, rectangular glasses cost up to $700, but Mrs Palin bought her pair last December.

John Davidson, fashion writer for The Scotsman, is not impressed. He said: "I think the Republicans need to spend a lot more on Sarah Palin. She looks old-fashioned and dowdy, as if she shops in a thrift store.

"I think one of the reasons why she is so easily pilloried is she looks like she is wearing clothes discarded by businesswomen in a previous era. For a woman who does look the part, she need look no further than Michelle Obama, who is a professional woman in her own right and wears good clothes without being ostentatious or flashy."





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1

Let's have the truth,

Queensland 23/10/2008 00:18:28
They really should be spending a little money on McCain's wardrobe too. Those off-the-peg suits he wears only go to illustrate his unsuitability for president.
2

D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

23/10/2008 01:03:22
#1 - "Truth"

I would suggest that MCain consider one of those cotton-duck jackets with the trendy buckles and straps, considering he plays the "straight-man" for the commedienne, Sarah Palin.

A suitable jacket is available from the design house of "Kelvino," I believe.

Harry Houdini looked great in this style, which would also be quite dashing and politically useful to J. Sidney McCain.

"Houdini often turned his straightjacket routine into a public spectacle by performing it upside down, suspended from one of the towering new skyscrapers which had begun to dominate city skylines. While requiring more strength to undo the buckles, this actually made it easier to get his arms over his head, the key to the escape."
3

Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 01:14:31
There has been a non-stop attack on Palin from the day she was enlisted as VP. The press is so threatened by this woman, that they have attacked everything from her hair to her dress.. They have distorted quotes from interviewers, and now clothing allowance.
The media, especially the press, has gone down the tubes.
If she has dressed "down", they would be after her for that.
Whatever this woman does, or does not do, the press is after her.
What people should be worrying about is the Terrible Trio running America.
Where No checks and balances will exist.
4

Scullion,

Canada 23/10/2008 01:24:46
Lynne, I think the comments about Palin are unfortunate as she's just a simple soul way out of her league. However, the real culprit in all this is McCain as it was he who brought this lamb to the slaughter through a misguided and cynical attempt to beguile the American public.
Shame on him.
5

Postmark-55,

China, 23/10/2008 01:26:47
While looking good is important, it's criminal at that price. I'm sure those clothes could be bought elsewhere at a much more reasonable price. If and when they do go to charity, chances are they'll be auctioned off to some overly rich and brainless people looking to buy something, anything related to celebrity. If you were to sell those clothes at a yard sale or whatever, you'd be lucky to get five cents to the dollar.

#3 Lynne,
What trio would that be?
You, Carolyn 1 and Sandi?
And whatever this woman says or does, you embarrass yourself by portraying her as your heroine.
6

Let's have the truth,

Queensland 23/10/2008 01:53:08
Lynne

"The press is so threatened by this woman"

What a load of codswallop. The press loves this woman as she's providing comedic reading material that has probably created a bonanza for them.

She's the best thing that has happened for comedy since Charlie Chaplin.
7

Postmark-55,

China, 23/10/2008 02:02:22
Lynne,
You notice that more people respond to you than anybody else?
Do you ever wonder why that is?
Try to think about that for awhile. Remember the key word here is THINK.
Looking forward to your "intelligent" response.
8

D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

23/10/2008 02:26:40

Lynne provides many of us with a reason for being here in cyber-land, the "highlands,"as it were, of elite political analysis.

Her comments and observations give all of us a clear picture of the deterioration of American democracy.

Minds used as dumping grounds for profiteering propaganda cannot help but repeat the same fear and panic-driven nonsense over and over, until they can neither see nor hear anything but their own paranoia.
This has become the very essence of our Union.

Therefore, we continue to welcome Lynne and praise her
for educating all of us in the ways of the "great silent majority" of baffled minds. Lest we forget, these are the great thinkers that elected George W. Bush twice over and still believe in his basic principles, newly proposed by his willing replacement, John Sidney McCain.

All praises to Lynne !
9

jerrymanders,

23/10/2008 02:27:04
MILF



















but thick.
10

Rob Bennett,

Point Piper Australia 23/10/2008 02:29:19
The US republican bimbo rattlesnakes are starting to commit suicide

How good is that?

There's no prize for second place Lynne
11

right of center,

Chicago 23/10/2008 02:31:13
Lynne, to answer Skidmarks remark #7 on why more people respond to your remarks, it's because when you are on top they just want to knock you down.
12

Postmark-55,

China, 23/10/2008 02:43:21
#8 D. Feste - Illyria, OH
Thank you for that well thought out response, Lynne can only hope to be able to think that clearly.

#11 right of center,
So with you being in Chicago and me being in China, Shanghai yet, am I more right of center than you are? Try to think about that if you can. Mind boggling isn't it?
By the way, any comment on the article itself? Or just trolling?
13

Carolyn 1,

23/10/2008 03:13:23
We live in a superficial world.

It's unfortunate we are judged by our clothes and education and not our inner worth, but that's the way it is.
Thank you Hollywood.
14

Helene,

Ontario 23/10/2008 03:49:59
#13 Carolyn - talking about education as you do, and although I know I sound like the teacher I am, I am more concerned about the lack of education for Palin's children than I am about her clothes. None of her children seems to be getting much education while they're on the road with mum. The three school-aged daughters are always in the photos. The soon-to-be husband of the pregnant daughter doesn't seem to be in school either, nor is there talk of him going to college. It strikes me as odd that their college educated mother doesn't insist that they hit the books...
But back to the clothes - when it's all over as it will be in a few weeks, it will back to "auld clae's and purridge" for the whole clan. (And please excuse my spelling of the Scotticisms if it's not right!)
15

Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 04:05:43
Carolyn1
Palin is now giving her medical records to the media, because they have made it impossible for her not to.
I am sure it will be out there for all to see.
Obama, on the other hand, has given his medical record to the press.
It consists of a letter from his doctor, that says he is in good health!!
Not one newspaper, not one media outlet has asked for his medical records!!
I can think of things can be wrong or in his records with Obama. He was a drug user, he could have gotten hepatitis. He is African American he could be a carrier of Sickle Cell Anemia, or have it. But we will never know. The American press is so corrupt today, that we will never know.
But we will know, that Mrs. Palin has 5 children, and 1 has Downs Syndrome, and anything else they deem to print. No journalistic ethics at all.
16

Virginian,

USA 23/10/2008 04:06:30
Sarah Palin's new wardrobe reminds me of the "makeover" that was done on Jackie Kennedy.

Jackie looked bedraggled at the DNC, and so the Dems went into high gear to make a big to-do about her designer wardrobe from there on out.

Michelle Obama has been compared by the news media to Jackie Kennedy with the "classic" way she dresses. What a stretch of the imagination that is!

Have you noticed how the news media never shows Sarah Palin and Cindy McCain beside Michelle Obama?

Could it be that Palin and Cindy McCain just happen to be very attractive women as opposed to the drab "professional feminist" looking Michelle Obama?


17

Virginian,

USA 23/10/2008 04:28:19
#14 Helene, Ontario

It's to be assumed that the Palins have private tutors for their children during this time.

The education they are getting on the campaign trail is far superior to anything they would learn sitting in a classroom.
18

Helene,

Ontario, Canada 23/10/2008 04:38:44
# 17 - I can't agree with you on that. Large chunks of time out of the classroom are difficult to make up. I'm not sure any "education" on the campaign trail can be any better than a well spent summer vacation or other thoughtfully planned family activiteis at other times of the year. There's just something a little "off" about the attitude the Palins seem to have towards their children.
19

Virginian,

USA 23/10/2008 04:46:20
#5 Postmark-55,China
Quote:

"If you were to sell these clothes at a yard sale or whatever, you'd be lucky to get five cents to the dollar."

Answer:

Postmark, don't tell me that you have yard sales in China.

"Five cents to the dollar" sounds as if China is now on the US monetary system.

Knew you were an Obama-Democratic plant!

Plus, Sarah Palin's wardrobe will probably be auctioned off later for a huge sum since she is the first woman candidate for vice president.
20

Roy Stewart, Phx.AZ.USA,

23/10/2008 04:51:15
3
Lynne,
Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 01:14:31
What or who are: the "Terrible Trio" ". . . What people should be worrying about is the Terrible Trio running America."

Dressing down, dressing up?
Sarah Palin IS A REAL PERSON!

Imagine that" "A Real Person" in D.C.

The fact that Gov. Palin is pilloried
incessantly indicates what a dire threat to those who cannot accept a 'varient' to their world of surrealism!

I remain convinced that Gov. Palin is the only one of the lot worth my vote! And Gov. Palin is the only one of the lot with whom I would trust my life!

Obama, Biden, McCain?
All members of the U.S.'s
DC Aristocracy!
21

Virginian,

USA 23/10/2008 05:17:07
#18 Helene, Ontario, Canada

Quote:
"There's just something a little "off" about the attitude the Palins seem to have towards their children."

Answer:
"There's just something a little "off" about the attitude that you seem to have towards their children."

Helene, are you always such an intrusive busybody?
22

Let's have the truth,

Queensland 23/10/2008 05:21:35
"Palin a burden on the republican ticket"

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5h1EAZLrLrbYD-VcDCqri180U6zzA

Regardless of his erratic behaviour and early alzheimers symptoms, you can't say McCain hasn't got a sense of humour. Since he chose that Palin woman as his running mate the whole world has been entertained by her Chaplinesque antics.
23

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta CA for more WAR VOTE geriatric McCain 23/10/2008 05:25:37
20
Roy Stewart, Phx.AZ.USA

Hey Dude,

In the 80's there was this British TV show called Monty Python.

Check out this link, it says a bit about Palin.

Funny stuff about the Bimbo Palin

http://www.cleeseblog.com/2008/10/16/longer-version-of-the-us-election-interview/

Relax Dude.

There is nothing earth shattering in these posts that U cannot hear in a Redneck bar crowded with fanatical polarized GOP supporters.

GC
24

Postmark-55,

China, 23/10/2008 05:41:01
#20 Roy Stewart,
You honestly trust Palin with your life? This must be some kind of a sick joke right? Are you still wet behind the ears? Give your head a shake Roy, or do you have some kind of crush on that woman? You must still be a school aged child then eh? Let's hope that less than 50% of the voting Americans think different than you do, or your country will slide into oblivion if you manage to elect the team of McCain and Palin. And all this because of a crush eh Roy?
25

Postmark-55,

China, 23/10/2008 05:48:50
#19 Virginian,
Actually, I was raised in Canada, so I'm all too familiar with yard sales and your dollar as well as the Canadian dollar. So much for your Obama-Democratic plant theory. What's with the paranoia? You think that the Chinese can't think and that only Americans are up to date on yard sales and dollars?

It's also a criminal act in my opinion for those clothes to be auctioned off for the money will no doubt go anywhere but charity. But that seems to be the American way, doesn't it?
26

Yane,

23/10/2008 05:52:30
I like the t-shirt & the wee white coat. I already have a red t-shirt that says "Trailer Trash."
(Have a look at women's magazines — posh clothes cost $1,000's. $445 for a suit is not expensive. In fact, I thought this was a misprint.)
Don't agree with anything she says but can I have the wee coat when she's done?
27

Wally,

By The Rivers of Babylon (USA) 23/10/2008 05:55:05
When Sarah Palin was mayor she was known as the welfare queen of wasilla. here's a link on that.

http://the-peoples-forum.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=6063

Republicans would have won if they'd been true to their principals and nominated Ron Paul.
28

Virginian,

USA 23/10/2008 06:18:21
#27 Wally,By the.....

Quote:

"Republicans would have won if they'd been true to their principals(sic)and nominated Ron Paul."

Answer:

Wally, Ron Paul did not get the nomination...so just get over it.

Why would you throw your support to Obama when he is a radical liberal and Ron Paul is not?

You are cutting off your nose to spite your face.
29

Virginian,

USA 23/10/2008 06:22:52
#25 PostMark-55, China

If you were raised in Canada and are now in China what do you consider yourself...a Canadian-Chinese or a Chinese-Canadian or neither?
30

Roy Stewart, Phx.AZ.USA,

Nero & Rome 23/10/2008 06:51:37
U.S Citizens flail as Rome burns!

I suspect the fluoride added to our water . . . without our approval!

If Obama were as far right as McCain is left, I would vote for Obama!
Problem: Both McCain and Obama want to give the U.S. to Mexico!

Yes! I trust Gov. Palin with my life!
The other choices, I do not trust!
31

Bibamus,

23/10/2008 06:58:15
Lynne - just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that they AREN'T out to get you
32

Guga II,

Rockall 23/10/2008 07:32:04
#3 Lynne.

I've worked it out now. Your surname is McCarthy.
33

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23/10/2008 08:19:48
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34

Boy Wonder,

23/10/2008 08:21:28
One hopes Mizz Palin is ready for oblivion after November 4th and Obama is made President.

BTW ... Hillary isn't done yet!!!
35

Postmark-55,

China, 23/10/2008 08:46:57
#29 Virginian,
What's with needing to know as to who I am or what race I am? I answered your question(s) as to how I know about yard sales and dollars, the rest doesn't really matter does it? I already told you that I was raised in Canada so that should satisfy your curiosity. I could care less what race you are, race doesn't matter, we're all people the last time I heard and checked.
36

Number 6,

Germany 23/10/2008 08:55:25
Considering many americans are facing extreme financial hardship , I find it disgusting that so much money has been wasted trying to make "THAT WOMAN" some how presentable. Oh well, yet another nail in their coffin.
37

Vlad Tepes,

Snagov 23/10/2008 09:32:14
Moron dressed as glam.
38

Leftie,

UK 23/10/2008 09:34:21
@29
Virginian
"If you were raised in Canada and are now in China what do you consider yourself...a Canadian-Chinese or a Chinese-Canadian or neither?"
What a nosey hypocrite!

In post #21 Virginian asks Helene, "are you always such an intrusive busybody?"
39

Leftie,

UK 23/10/2008 09:37:01
Right then, i hear Palin is starring with McCain in a new version of Beauty and the Beast to be renamed Bimbo and the Brute
Palin will appear as the valley trash queen and McCain will star as himself, ol' fungus head.
40

Postmark-55,

China, 23/10/2008 10:23:23
#39 Leftie,
Hopefully I can get a pirated version for a bargain price here in China and just to make sure that we don't break any copyright laws we'll rename it Bimbo and the Bomber, if that's all right with you?
We'll do it to the theme song of BOMB, BOMB, BOMB, BOMB, BOMB IRAN.
41

A Clamper,

Edinburgh 23/10/2008 10:24:45
They would have been better spending the money on an education for the bimbo.
42

Matt there,

Somewhere 23/10/2008 10:30:59
Vote for a woman who things 'Trig' is a suitable name for a baby.

Yeah. For sure. NOT!
43

Postmark-55,

China, 23/10/2008 11:19:41
#26 Yane,
There are a lot of American families that could ill afford clothes at the prices you find inexpensive. The American economy has been left reeling and people are making do with a whole lot less now, all because of financial mismanagement at the top levels, yes that includes banks and the government. Bank CEO's especially are walking away with millions of dollars while Bush and Company conveniently look the other way. Don't believe someone like Virginian posting regularly here who claims that the American economy is already in recovery mode, that's just a wild and wet dream he openly shares with all readers here. The Americans have been dumped into a very deep financial hole and it will take years to get back to a healthy economy. Remember that good old George W. Bush was given free reign and he managed to nearly bankrupt what was once a great and rich nation and he did it all in less than three years.
If Palin is indeed proud to be "VALLEY TRASH" as her T-shirt portrays then she could have shopped at the thrift store or gone to the Salvation Army or Goodwill stores and would probably have gotten those clothes for 30 bucks, maybe even for free.
44

D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

23/10/2008 11:20:01

Sarah Palin's understanding of the role of VP -

Bone-chilling ignorance, including the defense from her own advisor !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAeXeMgK6M0
45

Postmark-55,

China, 23/10/2008 11:21:28
Sorry, that should say, he did it in less than eight years
46

Number 6,

Germany 23/10/2008 11:52:36
I hope she spent some of that clothing allowance on a chastity belt for her daughter.
47

AJ Fife,

23/10/2008 12:39:19
So what if she's thick! So what if she doesn't know who Putin is!

At least she's quality crumpet, and that makes up for a lot!
48

They call me mr positive,

23/10/2008 12:47:09
So how much of her clothin allowance did she spend on s@xy underwear... I have this vision - but then again it will never happen!!
49

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23/10/2008 13:32:24
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23/10/2008 14:06:15
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51

Let's have the truth,

Queensland 23/10/2008 14:29:16
You can clothe a pig in a designer outfit but it's still a pig.
52

Let's have the truth,

Queensland 23/10/2008 14:37:20
A little of that money should have been spent on some elocution lessons and maybe that nerve-grating nasal twang of hers could be attenuated somewhat.

But I suppose you can give a pig elocution lessons but it's still a pig.
53

D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

23/10/2008 14:38:14

( The following article is from the Alaska Dept. of Fish & Game site )

I truly believe that what we are witnessing in the Republican campaign can be explained by the following :

******************************************************

"Moose breed in the fall with the peak of the "RUT" activities coming in late SEPTEMBER and early OCTOBER.

"Adult males joust during the rut by bringing their antlers together and pushing. Serious battles are rare. Bulls may receive a few punctures or other damage and occasionally die from their wounds. The winner usually mates with the female."

BY LATE OCTOBER- adult males have exhausted their summer accumulation of fat and their desire for female company. Once again they begin feeding. Antlers are shed as early as November, but mostly in December and January."

*****************************************************-

This is truly uncanny !

McCain and Palin are following this ancient "rut" imperative before our eyes, driven by her insatiable reproductive desires.

Referencing the article, we can see evidence of McCain "shedding accumulated fat" as well as his waning
"desire for female company," both according to plan.

This must account for Palin's recent wardrobe intensity; tight-fitting, bright colors, what we would call a highly-sexualized "hooker" look.

But, alas, all is for naught; the "rut" is over for this cycle and all must return to their respective
prior routines.

54

Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 14:40:34
TimW. Just goes to show.. how little you know. Joe the Plumber chose the route of Apprenticeship to get his license. He is able to work because he works under the license of the owner of the plumbing company he works for.
He will be getting his own license to be able to own his own company.
Unfortunately, you watch and listen to mainstream media which lies or exaggerates everything, then never corrects it.
There are 1% of the homes in forclosure in the US. Owing back taxes is not unusal, especially if the bill was never sent. I am sure that bill will be taken care of.
What's more, this is a man who served his country, and is being treated like a pariah from the media.
ALL HE DID WAS ASK A QUESTION. He did not seek out Obama, Obama came up to him!!!
The fact the Obama gave him and many others an answer he didn't like, and Obama knew he blew it with the word "redistribution" has led Obama to discredit him.. just like he does every one else who either doesn't agree with him, or has a questionable relationship with him.
It's not me who needs the help...it is you, you who think that a man who is a security risk for the FBI and the CIA because of his connections to felons, and past terrorists, who btw, are unrepentent, who has spent 143 days in the office of JUNIOR Senator, has enough experience to be President.
So before you make blanket statements about things you don't know..LOOK IT UP
55

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23/10/2008 14:43:16
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 14:47:21
LHTT.. I suppose there are many who ridicule your "accent".. but then you can put lipstick on a pig but it is still a pig. Even a chauvanist pig.
57

ScotLJM,

Michigan 23/10/2008 14:52:16
#50 Tim Ottawa
You need help immediately!
Contact: The Royal Ottawa Hospital
Tel: (877) 727-4343
E-Mail: www.bridgestorecovery.com
They are the best phychiatric hospital in Canada, and you should get their help ASAP!
58

Postmark-55,

China, 23/10/2008 14:52:37
#55 Lynne,
It is you that goes through life with the blinders on, for you won't listen to reason. You jumped on the Palin bandwagon the second you heard of her for the only reason that she's a woman with about the same lack of intelligence as yourself. Sara Palin is proving everyday that she is indeed a bimbo and that she has no clue about running anything let alone a country. She's nothing more than a hooker wannabe and she's not even good at that, but it seems to have rubbed off on her daughter. If you want that bimbo to be your VP, go and vote for her, but save us your ridiculous blabbering, even Sarah Palin seems clever when compared to you. Go tend to your grandkids but don't talk to them, you'll end up getting their heads as screwed up as yours. You must have been dropped on your head too numerous times to count.
59

Postmark-55,

China, 23/10/2008 14:56:49
Oh joy, another of the Bimbo club that goes by the name of ScotLJM, has just checked in. Good thing it's bed time here in China, do I dare close my eyes?
60

Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 14:59:09
The problem is, Sarah Palin doesn't care what you think, or what you say. You are not her problem. She lives her life by her standards, and people don't like that. She hurts no one. She chooses life over abortion, a threat to many women. But that was her choice. She didn't go to an Ivy League school, she helped put herself through college by going into pageants for the scholarships they offered...another threat to some feminists.
She is the average woman, who works and tries to keep her family going at the same time.
She became a Mayor, then a Governor.. she can't be all that stupid.. There are very few Alaskans that have anything bad to say about her, including the oil companies. She is the most popular Governor in the US... yet you all do nothing but ridicule her. If she were a man..you would have nothing derogatory to say.
61

Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 15:01:44
Besides who cares how much was spent on clothes.. they are being donated to charity at the end of the campaign.
Obama has spent 21 million alone just for polls. Some say he is buying this election.
But then again, it's THE ONE, THE MESSIAH, and he can do no wrong.
62

ScotLJM,

Michigan 23/10/2008 15:17:51
Postmark-55
I'm sure I could also find you a mental hospital, but I don't know where in China you are (if indeed) so you will have to look in to it yourself. Please do! You need their help!!
63

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 23/10/2008 15:19:47
#58 ScotLJM

What cheek! You MUST be be vile Republican supporter and your suggestion is superfluous because both my brother and cousin work in a professional capacity there.

They, in their PROFESSIONAL opinion, think I am entirely stable but a tad "eccentric". I don't have brain damage but just tell the truth as I see it.

After all, this is a PUBLIC website and anybody can post - even those two idiots from China, Mushmarrow and Something 55 - EVEN YOU!

#55 Lynne from Palm Beach Gardens

Yet another RABID REPUBLICAN! They may have removed my post at #50 because it hit to close to home, didn't it dearie?

By common consensus you are one of the most unpopular posters on these webs and many others have taken you to task for your wacky views.

Wake up and smell the freetrade, organic coffee and GET A GRIP, GIRL!
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A Clamper,

Edinburgh 23/10/2008 15:23:13
55 Lynne - Joe the Fraud ...

Joe the Plumber has now been exposed as a complete fraud. He is not a licensed plumber. He does not earn enough money to be affected by Obama's tax policies. He does not have the money to be setting himself up in business. He is not a free-thinking independent who has yet to make up his mind which candidate he will cast his vote for; he is a registered Republican. His name is not even Joe, it is Samuel. He is, as phony as a three-dollar bill.
I don't know who is running the McCain/Palin campaign, although the ineptitude of it amuses me, it almost looks as if they are trying to lose the election.
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presto,

U.K 23/10/2008 15:25:36
Look like some posters have made gender so much an issue here. If Palin were a man, they would not have so much to poke fun at and the name calling.
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Sandi,

San Diego 23/10/2008 15:27:55
Lynne,

How much more proof do we need that this election is very close, Obama knows it and they're piling on Palin. They are terrified of her. All the negatives so glibly repeated here by the ignorant came originally from the Obama campaign. These people don't seem to know they are being manipulated by a master to go right off the cliff.
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tommyboay,

23/10/2008 15:31:57
Come on guys..just accept it .....she is without doubt the biggest post turtle in modern times.
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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

23/10/2008 15:32:06

Trick, Track Paddy-Whack
Throw Your Moose A Bone
Only twelve more days to go
Until they're sent back home !

What DOES a VP do again ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

23/10/2008 15:38:52
"When you're driving down a country road and you see a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that's a post turtle. You know he didn't get up there by himself. He doesn't belong there; he can't get anything done while he's up there; and you just want to help the poor, dumb thing down."
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 15:38:52
A Clamper.. you will not read the truth of Joe the Plumber... he is no fraud. He goes by the name Joe, maybe he doesn't like the name Samuel. So what!! His name is Samuel Joe. You of course, must be right, you read it in a newspaper, or saw it on NBC, CBS, ABC, or MSNBC ( who has now aligned themselves with ACORN)!!
Those are the "unbiased" networks, who have been pushing Obama since day one.
I take what you have to say with a grain of salt because you are part of the herd of sheep who just listen to those networks, and never hear from the man himself.
He could be a Registered Rebulican... so what.
The phony in the room is Obama, who changes with the wind.
I am an Independent.. I left the Democratic Party .. I get e-mails from the Democratic party, and the Republican party and the Independents. I make up my own mind who I vote for. I also LISTEN to what the candidates have to say. If I don't agree with one, I vote for the other who I agree with. THAT'S THE AMERICAN WAY.
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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

23/10/2008 15:42:28

#71 - Lynn

Is "Palm Beach Gardens" one of those gated Disney-type communities like "The Villages," or a trailer park ?

Inquiring minds want to know !

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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 15:43:32
Sandi, I agree, this morning the NRA is said they were backing McCain, many women have changed their mind and gone over for Palin. The last poll said 2 points.
As the elction gets closer, Obama gets more threatened by the fact that Americans DON'T want socialism.
Small business being one of them. They now have ads claiming they are Joe the Plumber.
Why should they work hard, to pay more taxes, and not be able to build their business?
We will see how Obama changes some of his tunes to manioulate the small business sector.. who is now against him.. but are the backbone of this nation.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 15:46:06
Helene, Palin was asked about the kids and their schooling, and missing school..
Here is her answer:

With the kids traveling, how do they keep up with school?
SP: They've been going back and forth and bringing schoolwork with them. Yeah. It's workin'. With our help and Grandma's and Grandpa's help.

Something on the order of HOME SCHOOLING, while they campaign.
No one is missing out. Her parents were teachers.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 15:54:53
D. Festes.. It is a community in Florida.. It is located on a bird sanctuary with many gated communities within it. We have 5 golf courses,.. where the PGA organization is located, there is a hotel, European health spa, 19 tennis courts that can be used by residents of any of these communities for a fee. Each community either has it's own pool, or the residences have pools. Some have their own tennis courts.. It is mixed in the sense that it is not an adult community. There is however, one adult community here, also gated. We have security and gate houses.
It is far from the "swanky" places that surround us, although no motorcyles and RVs are allowed to be parked here. It's an average community.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 16:03:56
D. Festes... it is also a far cry from trailer parks.
But, If I were you I wouldn't make remarks about them.. because in North Palm Beach, and Juno Beach Beach, some of those "trailers" go for over a million dollars since they are nearer to the beach..or right at the beach.
This isn't Podunk.. It's Palm Beach County.. no one hangs their clothes on wash lines, no one sits outside in fluffy slippers drinking beer. There are Homeowner Associations, with laws, and Property Associations with laws you have to answer to.
So, if you want Podunk, go to PA, where Murtha says there are racists and rednecks.
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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

23/10/2008 16:06:10

Lynn:

I am sure that many of the posters on this board would love to join in your privileged lifestyle and try out those spas and tennis courts.

But, alas, many of us are poor "Joes" who cannot afford such elite lifestyles.

This might be the very reason why you seem to be so out of touch with everyone else. . . . you ARE !

You call it "average," eh ?
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 16:09:53
D. Festes... does that answer your inquiring mind? Some of us have class, while others are just plain bores.. I know which you are.
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Virginian,

USA 23/10/2008 16:10:29
#35 Postmark-55, China

Quote:

"What's with needing to know as to who I am or what race I am?"

Answer:

Postmark, you were asked about your nationality not your race that you "consider yourself to be."

Why are you so touchy about your race and your real nationality?

Could it be that you are in Chicago and not China?

Could it be that you are one of the Obama "plants" that surfs the net to wage PC war on McCain's supporters?
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 16:18:42
It's not a priviledged lifestyle. I said you join these things for a fee. I did not join the tennis club, because they want a huge amount, and my community has tennis courts. It is average. There are homes here and town homes here.. it is average. This is Florida, this is the lifestyle. You can't go into anyone of these communities without having the same thing. Why do you think they advertise all the time? That includes all the other communites in PBG..
IF you don't know what you are talking about STOP TALKING.. this community is an average community. This is the way they build in Florida.
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Virginian,

USA 23/10/2008 16:23:24
#43 Postmark-55,China

Quote:

"Don't believe someone like Virginian posting regularly here who claims that the American economy is already in recovery mode..."

Answer:

Postmark, you are like a TV weatherman reporting that there is a blizzard outside when everyone looks out the window to see the sun shining.

Try to keep up and focus on what is actually happening at the moment.
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A Clamper,

Edinburgh 23/10/2008 16:24:09
71 Lynne
Face facts, you are going to lose this election and it won't be because of voter fraud (unlike the Bush election) or because the Networks are for Obama or they have it in for Palin, it will be because the American people have voted for the Obama/Biden ticket because trust them more than McCain/Palin. The odd rogue poll claimimg the contest is close doesn't deflect from the majority of Polls showing a clear lead for Obama.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 16:28:22
#82 A. Clamper..Scroll up .. they are neck and neck.
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23/10/2008 16:35:24
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Finnking,

Lempäälä 23/10/2008 16:40:35
So, it's been going on for months and has a couple for weeks to go. There is very little real difference between the two parties in that they are funded/controlled equally by industry and if you placed their actual policies (nothing to do with intellect, gender, race or clothes and something we rarely hear of)side by side on any rational and complete political axis you wouldn't be able to get the gable end of a fag paper between the two.

Meanwhile, in this wonderful display of US "democracy" (that no civilised nation wants to emulate or have forced upon them), we have endless "debate" about completely meaningless topics; topics fed to us by a media that had serious links with industry/wealth. People get all hot and bothered about who said what when,in fact, the candidates have said very little and will certainly NEVER change the system in the US to be, gosh, democratic.

Pseudo debate about well defined, spoonfed, drivel: this is called "Yankee Democracy".

Not wanted anywhere else except by those who seek to keep the masses dumb.

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TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 23/10/2008 16:41:49
#80 Lynne from Palm Beach Gardens

I researched your area of residence and it is far from "average" as you postulate.

It is 94% White, only 2% Black-American, and 89% speak English-only. The median income is about "$54,000 (America) and it is a gated community.

So..... the only Black-American you meet tend your garden, clean out your latrines, or serve you in restaurants.

My father, before he died, live in a gated community in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. Quelle bore.

Just because my father and step-mother had British accents they had a certain "cachet" at the golf clubs and restaurants just because of their accents.

Apparently, Americans swoon over English or Scots accents.

This does not happen to me here in Canada. Perhaps our rampant multi-culturalism contributes to this "soignee", world-view approach.

Perhaps youse right-wing Evangelicals should actually speak to the visible minorities. It would open your eyes to the varieties of human beings on planet Earth and God would be grateful for the opening of your mind and embracing of a wider social circle.

You cannot sit in isolation in white-only establishments and thereby stultify your mental and social purviews.
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A Clamper,

Edinburgh 23/10/2008 16:48:52
Lynne read on...

Obama up by 10 pts. in NBC/WSJ poll Posted: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 6:38 PM by Mark Murray
Filed Under: 2008, McCain, Obama, Polls
From NBC's Mark Murray
With voters’ increased confidence in his ability to serve as commander in chief, as well as a majority who now believe he would do a good job as president, Barack Obama has opened up his biggest advantage over John McCain in the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

With two weeks to go until Election Day, Obama now leads his Republican rival by 10 points among registered voters, 52 to 42 percent, up from 49 to 43 percent two weeks ago.

Obama’s current lead is also fueled by his strength among independent voters (topping McCain 49 to 37 percent), suburban voters (53 to 41), Catholics (50 to 44) and white women (49 to 45).
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23/10/2008 16:49:27
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Finnking,

Lempäälä 23/10/2008 16:55:04
LMAO

Lynne at 80

Palm Beach Gardens"is average":

Wiki:

"The racial makeup of the city was 93.78% White." "Hispanic or Latino of any race were 5.63% of the population."

"the median income for a family was $74,548"

"About 3.5% of families and 5.6% of the population were below the poverty line"

Aye, sure, that's "average", Lynne!
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 16:55:25
TimW.#86

What community do I live in? I never gave you the name..

What are you talking about!!! The communities here are mixed. The high school my grandson went to was more black than white.

Apparently, you are in love with yourself and the "accent" you have. Not me. If you said French, that would be different.
I havn't lived here all my life. I came from NY, where there are mixed communities also.

You sound more jealous than anything else. A right wing Evangelist I am not. Most people on thse posts know that.
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Finnking,

Lempäälä 23/10/2008 16:56:13
TimW1234,
Ottawa

LMAO! You got there first!
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Finnking,

Lempäälä 23/10/2008 17:00:21
Of course, the reason that Lynne feels (at 15) that Obama should divulge his medical record is because; "He is African American he could be a carrier of Sickle Cell Anemia, or have it. " is that she lives in what must be the whitest part of Florida.

Because he's "african american" he could have Sickle Cell Anemia?

Racist? Noooooo...........
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23/10/2008 17:01:49
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Virginian,

USA 23/10/2008 17:02:59
#43 Postmark-55,China

Quote:

"The American economy has been left reeling...all because of financial mismanagement at the top levels...banks...government..."

Answer:

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac under Democrat mismanagement caused the global credit crisis due to their sending "toxic" equities around the world.

The cause of the crisis was Freddie Mae giving low-income or no-income people sub-prime mortgages that they could not pay back.

Obama's economic plan would mean far more debt-generation by programs to buy votes of non-taxpaying minorities.

The average American that refused to get into debt and saved money is not affected by the credit crisis.

Pension funds were invested heavily in mutual funds, but those will bounce back as soon as Wall Street purges itself of the Fannie Mae "toxic" equities.

The Democrats caused this economic crisis but are now pointing the finger at the Republicans which is absurd.

McCain was ahead in the polls all summer until this Democrat-generated credit crisis hit Wall Street.

Postmark, the American economy is doing just fine for the vast majority of Americans.

Wall Street is recovering and so will the rest of the financial sector...no thanks to Obama or the Democrats.

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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 17:06:56
#88 Sarah.. what the hell is your problem? I now that you are a troll from FH with a lot of aliases.. so whatever comes off those big fingers of yours on those little keys means absolutely little to me.
I raised 3 children, they went to college, they married, and I want them to have better than I had. What is wrong with that? Isn't that what we all want for our children?
I told you how I vote, and why I left the Democratic party. There is nothing more to say. America is made up of more than one party, more than 3 parties.
The people who should be ridiculed are the ones with tunnel vision, not the ones who can look at see the whole picute.
So say what you want, type what you want, you are a little person with a small mind... like most of the other people who come from other countries, don't bother to find out how the American gov't works, and then criticize it. What and who is responsible for what.. they just bather on like know it alls making fools of themselves.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 17:07:54
Sorry.. picture. is the word..
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Jock Scot,

East Lothian 23/10/2008 17:11:00

Sarah Palin a pig in a poke.


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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 17:14:10
Finnking... If Mccain, Biden, and Palin divulged their medical records, why not Obama... does he get a pass for that too?
It's not because of the Sickle Cell, or hepatitis, I was just commenting on things he could be hiding.
Why does his medical record consist of 1 LETTER... saying he is in good health.? While all the others had to give their medical records to the press?
Something wrong there.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 17:18:12
Finnking.. I forgot!! He's THE ONE, THE MESSIAH we are all waiting for!!
THAT'S why he gets the pass!!!
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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

23/10/2008 17:18:32

Lynn: WORTH A SECOND READ !

I thought that your posting #76 was brilliant and very informative, certainly worth a second look. I appreciate your candor regarding your community and "average" lifestyle:

". . . in North Palm Beach, and Juno Beach Beach, some of those "trailers" go for over a million dollars since they are nearer to the beach..or right at the beach.
This isn't Podunk.. It's Palm Beach County.. no one hangs their clothes on wash lines, no one sits outside in fluffy slippers drinking beer. There are Homeowner Associations, with laws, and Property Associations with laws you have to answer to.
So, if you want Podunk, go to PA, where Murtha says there are racists and rednecks."

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It's very helpful to know whom we are dealing with. . . .thank you for the insights.

And you demonize the rest of us for wanting affordable health care ? Good schools ? Living wages ?

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Finnking,

Lempäälä 23/10/2008 17:27:20
Lynne

I wouldn't trust any of them as far as I could throw them.All politicians in these main, industry/wealth funded and promoted, parties are corrupt. Who supplies what and wears what and what the two main media moguls broadcast etc is totally meaningless to me and to the democratic system.

When the elections in Florida and then 4 years later in Ohio were so seriously rigged, you didn't seem overly bothered. When Clinton was being asked all sorts of MUCH worse questions you supported the action against him. That's what you get with a two party system:"While one party is out of favour with the masses the other party continues to carry out the desires of wealth and industry". And please don't give me the spiel about having many other parties; not one of them has come even close to getting a full national share of the media. It's a two party system and totally corrupt.

You wrote: "He is African American he could be a carrier of Sickle Cell Anemia, or have it. "

And you don't think that's racist,do you?

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Virginian,

USA 23/10/2008 17:38:17
Lynne, Palm Beach Gardens

Trying to reason with lunatics is frustrating for a sane person.

These Obama PC warriors are just doing their job...taking up space with drivel wherever the real campaign issues are being discussed.

Best to let them rant to themselves by refusing to answer.
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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

23/10/2008 17:44:12

Virginian:

You sound as if you also have a privileged lifestyle and community like Lynn.

Is this where all of your "what's mine is mine" ideas come from ?
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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

23/10/2008 17:51:59

Them SICKLE-CELLS are just a-waitin' ta rock their little selves right under the guarded entrance to your elite communities and get theirselves sucked inta your central air systems !

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Finnking,

Lempäälä 23/10/2008 17:55:40
D. Feste - Illyria

So, i'm right in thinking that, on the list of "Thing You Never See in Palm Beach Gardens" are:

Pimped up cars with boom boxes driving around?
Gentlemen of a black persuasion on the golf course?
Others?

Where do the white kids buy their dope? LOL.
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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

23/10/2008 17:59:41

#105- Finnking

I hope it's not from you-know-who !
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Finnking,

Lempäälä 23/10/2008 18:01:19
D. Feste - Illyria

Somehow, I doubt it!
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 18:12:12
#104.. I have a medical background.. I was referring to a disease that is in the black community..It has very little to do with if he has the disease.. what it has to do with, is the 1 page letter from a doctor, while all 3 other candidates gave their medical records. What is he hiding? If he is not hiding anything, why not give the full medical report like the other 3 candidates?
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 18:13:44
Virginian.. you are right. You can't debate with loons. They resort to this.. it gets nowhere, and just goes in circles.
They can rant to themselves.
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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

23/10/2008 18:16:52

I'm refusing to speak with my enemies for the next 15 minutes and, after that, I will reconsider . . . .
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 18:16:53
Oy yes.. Obama has now just added a change to his requirement for his "new" economic proposal. He won't provide "Welfare" to non-working Americans.
He found out Americans don't want Socialism, and he is changing the way the wind blows...YET AGAIN.
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Finnking,

Lempäälä 23/10/2008 18:25:20
D.Feste

Well, 3 mins!

Lynne

Please give us all your definition of socialism as it seems totally opposed to the normal one.

BTW: try getting "welfare" in a socialist system without doing work (assuming you are able and there's work to do).
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Virginian,

USA 23/10/2008 18:26:28
Lynne, all of the Obama PC warriors spout the usual socialist-communist class war nonsense.

Obama is being used by the Liberal Democrats and pseudo-Republicans to buy the black vote.

If Obama wins he will be a puppet with his strings being pulled behind the scenes.

Jimmy Carter was in the same position when he arrived at the White House...everything was already in place and he was just a figurehead.

McCain being savaged by the news media means that their owners have a vested interest in putting Obama in place.

"National Review's" Christopher Buckley has just come out for Obama and has ostensibly left the magazine. There goes the "NR's" future credibility.

Colin Powell's defection is due to the same vested interest and calling in of affirmative action "chips."

Radical Republicans and carpetbaggers promised every black person in the South 40 acres and a mule after the War Between the States.

What black people got was nothing when their Union "saviors" pulled out, taking their stolen property with them.

The South was economically bankrupted by Federal Reconstruction, but the Southern states were back on a good financial basis in short order, no thanks to the Union predators.

What is unfortunate for blacks is that they are once again being duped by those who would merely "use" them to gain power.

History is simply repeating itself.
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Finnking,

Lempäälä 23/10/2008 18:36:42
Virginia

"What is unfortunate for blacks is that they are once again being duped by those who would merely "use" them to gain power."

You mean unlike the last two elections where the voting records were scrubbed of mostly black folk and the machine managed to reject more black votes than white votes? (Wee switch at back of machine, you remember? Or maybe you didn't know?)

"Obama PC warriors spout the usual socialist-communist class war nonsense."

Man, I would love to hear "class war" rhetoric from the USA.

BTW, what exactly is "socialist-communist"?LOL
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Carolyn 1,

23/10/2008 18:41:29
Are these ideals socialism, communism, marxism,and shsould they be a model for American education policy, Ayers says yes:
http://billayers.wordpress.com/2006/11/

As for the economy, any democracy has some socialist programs, it makes for a kind and caring government.

What many people in the US do not want are higher taxes, or steps to any marxist redistribution of wealth; hence the support for Joe the plumber, and why the polls have changed so quickly from Obama to McCain.
Small business is the pulse of the economy. Middle America knows this.

Investor's Business Daily:

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=309565448930564
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Virginian,

USA 23/10/2008 18:45:14
#111 Lynne, Palm Beach Gardens

Remember who said, "If you repeat a lie often enough people will believe it."

Propaganda and brainwashing are just two of the tools in the socialist-communist's little bag of tricks.

Ayers is a "distinguished" professor of education in order to radicalize American children and college students.

It is to be expected that our college campuses would be turned into the hot-bed of hate for the US with the parents and government footing the bills for this "education."

Obama and his wife are the product of just such a radical education payed for by government affirmative action funds. Now it is payback time for their protegees.
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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

23/10/2008 18:57:43
#116-

Virginian-

You line up your propaganda "talking points" like they are M&M's; they appear robotic, dictatorial and authoritarian. This is EXACTLY why our country is voting against your candidates. this time around.

We don't want angry, privileged authoritarian rule in the USA. Keep it free. . . . . for everyone.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 19:33:45
No, D. Festes, you just want someone who has ties to a domestic terrorist, with socialist, and marxist views, and thugs and felons for friends; and I can't forget Rev. White, with his anit-American rhetoric.
A man who throws in the towel, hoists the white flag of surrender, and votes against supporting the troops, and prefers not to visit them unless a camera crew goes along.
Speaking of weak and shallow, the man would have no preconditions to sit down with Hugo Chavez, Ahmadinejerk, or any other dictator and likes the idea of being used as "propaganda" by them. ( I guess it means getting his picture with them).
But we live in America, so you vote for Obama, and I'll negate your vote by voting for McCain. And as long as 7 and 12 year olds don't vote, and illegal aliens don't vote, and people who have registered 73 times don't vote, and those people who already voted in Ohio, and left to go back where they came from, get found out, WE have nothing to worry about.
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Finnking,

Lempäälä 23/10/2008 19:40:46
Er, Chavez and Ahmadinejad were voted in and are therefore not "dictators" as you call them;in spite of US attempts to replace them. They were voted in by the people.

It's called democracy, Lynne.You should try it sometime over there in the States.
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Virginian,

USA 23/10/2008 19:55:05
#115 Carolyn 1

Karl Marx wrote that Socialism was to be the transitional stage between Capitalism and Communism.

Socialism was to set the stage for Communism to replace Capitalism by getting the taxpayer used to the government transfer of his wealth into social programs that supposedly benefited all citizens equally.

"The power to tax is the power to destroy."

This economic truth is the engine that propelled the American Revolution when King George III wanted to destroy the American colonies for refusing to pay unjust taxes.

Government's first duties are to protect life and property...not to perpetuate legalized robbery by transferring private property to others.

Programs such as Medicare or Social Security are not socialistic because all those who contribute to them receive a benefit back.

Welfare-Social Services, Unemployment and Medicaid benefits are safety nets that are available to all citizens equally.

Affirmative action programs directed to only minorities and special interest groups are socialistic because they are unequally available to all citizens.

Obama announced in his Colorado Springs Speech on July 2, 2008, a vast number of new programs directed to these same minorities that are to be paid for by the taxpayer who is ineligible.

Obama's plans are Socialistic and the American taxpayers knows it.

With Obama's associate Ayers being an avowed Communist, this completes the last piece of the puzzle of the "change" Obama has in mind.

Another word for "change" is "revolution."


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TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 23/10/2008 20:08:10
Haven't we all had just about enough from Lynne from glorious, white-only, gated Palm Beach Gardens?

We know more about her than we do about McCain's brush with skin cancer. Why is that not ever discussed.

Maybe because skin CAN migrate to other tissues if notcaught early enough. Although I can abide the man, I hope his cancer was nipped in the bud, as it were.

She even obliquely criticises me for being bilingual - English and French - as if it were some kind of affliction/calamite.

Can I help it if I lived in France for some of my formative early years and to function successfully in Canada - especially in politics - one must be fluent in English and French. Spanish does not enter the picture as we don't have the "problem", as YOU would term it, of illegal aliens from Mexico and Cuba.

By the way, my accent is London, England British - having been brought up in Mayfair - and I speak "le francais internationale" impeccably.

When I visited my father at his gated community I was appalled at his friends calling persons of African-American ancestry "blackies" and chastised him for not correcting them in their racism.

He said he had tried but it had been useless because their white-only, upper middle-class values were too deeply entrenched.

They had black caddies, black scullery maids, black gardeners, black waiters, waitresses and bus-boys, black handymen but NEVER entertained a black couple and only talked to them to give them orders in the most rude and abrupt manner.

THIS is the milieu in which you have chosen to live and even our Celine Dion owned land there. I bet she quickly tired of your (all white persons living in Palm Beach Gardens) insularity, snobbishness, and cruel disregard for the dignity of ALL men and women.

She is now back in Canada part-time and has sold her land investments in your community. She is one smart woman.
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TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 23/10/2008 20:11:40
That should have read "although I can't abide the man" (with reference to McCain).

What was I thinking and what a faux pas on my part?
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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

23/10/2008 20:28:15
For those of you late to today's party - here is Lynne's contribution to our economic and social diversity, attesting to her now-conservative politics -

Question of Lynne: What is "Palm Beach Gardens?"

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"It is a community in Florida.. It is located on a bird sanctuary with many gated communities within it. We have 5 golf courses,.. where the PGA organization is located, there is a hotel, European health spa, 19 tennis courts that can be used by residents of any of these communities for a fee. Each community either has it's own pool, or the residences have pools. Some have their own tennis courts.. It is mixed in the sense that it is not an adult community. There is however, one adult community here, also gated. We have security and gate houses.
It is far from the "swanky" places that surround us, although no motorcyles and RVs are allowed to be parked here. It's an average community. It is also a far cry from trailer parks.
But, If I were you I wouldn't make remarks about them.. because in North Palm Beach, and Juno Beach Beach, some of those "trailers" go for over a million dollars since they are nearer to the beach..or right at the beach.
This isn't Podunk.. It's Palm Beach County.. no one hangs their clothes on wash lines, no one sits outside in fluffy slippers drinking beer. There are Homeowner Associations, with laws, and Property Associations with laws you have to answer to.
So, if you want Podunk, go to PA, where Murtha says there are racists and rednecks."
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Lynne is VERY well off, if what she says is at all true. I know she would "spill the beans" on all of this, since all she really cares about is "conserving" her wealth, at the expense of ours !

She has NO IDEA that hers is NOT and average community, but very wealthy indeed.

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So, Lynne and several others ( Virginian, Carolyn, Sandi) have all reac
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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

23/10/2008 20:28:56

So, Lynne and several others ( Virginian, Carolyn, Sandi) have all reached the age when they can AFFORD their "conservative" politics, as they are most likely receiving social security, Medicare, pension checks,
property tax reductions, etc.

The rest of us are "in the thick of it" and not as fortunate, nor as conservative. We still have families to raise, mortgages to pay, health care bills to
consider paying or not.

Notice the disdain in their posts, the anger, the selfishness, the paranoia that something will be taken from them that is theirs and no one elses.

Conservatives MINUS compassion.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 21:01:46
D. Festes... there you go again.. I am not on Medicare, I am too young.. I pay for my medical insurance EVERY MONTH. I still have a mortgage, my husband still works, and I have a teenager living under the same roof.
I'm not angry, nor selfish.. I work for charities, give to charities like everyone else.. and have taught my children to do the same. I also work in my husband's office. So much for retirement.
There are hundreds of communities in Palm Beach Gardens, that is the name of the town.
You begrudge me, and my family what WE earn. YOU get off your tush, and get up, and 6, and work until 9, and see if YOU like giving away what YOU earn.. I don't.
I am in the thick of it. I have bills like everyone else. I am also through DEFENDING myself to an idiot like you... who thinks he knows it all about a person he has never met, and does not know. There is no distain in my posts...just yours.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 21:02:58
TimW.. and more about me than Obama..the mystery man
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 21:22:06
D. Festes If I were well off like you say, I would be living in Ballen Isles or Mirosol, or Old Port or Old Marsh. Not here. You don't know what you are talking about. This is a working class community. You know Joe the Plumber types. Most of the cars are gone during the day.. people out working. So much for that idea of wealth. No more.. I'm older than you, we are not retired, we are still working.. THE END
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 21:49:07
Tim W. You have the old south... I have never seen anyone behave the way you say. Down here it is transient. There are the snowbirds for the winter and the people that live here all year round. But no one behaves the way you say. At least not the people I know.
But this has also coming to end.. You are another who know nothing about what you are talking about.
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Regina,

NH, USA 23/10/2008 21:50:28
128 Lynne

TimW1234's crowd with their rainbows would fit in nicely around South beach although I doubt Tim has the body for it, its a shame those nicely sculptured men’s bodies in South beach don't care for the ladies.
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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

23/10/2008 21:58:59
Lynn:

Well, your community went from million-dollar trailers to "we're all Joe the Plumbers" pretty fast, but I'll have to attempt to believe what you say, nonetheless.

Glad to read that you might just have an actual heart ticking inside that thorny exterior, at least in the above posting.
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Taz,

The Land of the Free. 23/10/2008 22:04:33
Is this all the pinkos have to talk about? Sarah on the stump in the buff is an attractive thought however.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 22:13:27
D. Festes.. my community went from million dollar trailers? NOW I know your problem.. YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO READ!!!!
NORTH PALM BEACH AND JUNO BEACH.. have mobile home that will sell for a million or more depending how close to the beach.
I am not North Palm Beach.. again I live in Palm Beach Gardens.. LEARN HOW TO READ.
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2dogs in D.C.,

23/10/2008 22:18:08
It's just very expensive lipstick on a pitbull. Oh,and hey Tim, hope the meeting on affordable homes went well.
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Virginian,

USA 23/10/2008 22:22:43
Capitalism is an economic system where the means of production and distribution (businesses) rests in the hands of PRIVATE OWNERS and is for PROFIT.

Socialism is an economic system where some of the means of production and distribution rests in the hands of PRIVATE OWNERS or GOVERNMENT.

Socialism is the intermediate step between capitalism and communism according to Karl Marx, Founding Father of Communism.

Communism is an economic system where all of the means of production rests in the hands of the GOVERNMENT and none with private owners.

Quite obviously Social Security, Medicare, Unemployment and Disability benefits are not socialistic if the owner of these plans pays into them and are entitled to a designated benefit. These programs are the same as buying an insurance policy or paying into a pension fund.

State Public Social Services, Medicaid and other such programs that are safety nets for all citizens equally are not socialistic.

However, affirmative action programs or entitlements that are offered only to designated minorities such as by race or gender but not to all citizens equally is socialistic.

As far as communism vs. capitalism and their relative failure rates...the break up of the USSR should settle that issue.
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2dogs in D.C.,

23/10/2008 22:27:29
P.S. to the above-I like Lynne. Don't agree with her politics at all, but I get the feeling that she would be a good a neighbor,who would not remove my Obama sign. This feeling stems from other discussions/arguements we've had.
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Yane,

23/10/2008 22:37:32
#43 Postmark, no, you've misunderstood @ #26.
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2dogs in D.C.,

23/10/2008 22:40:58
The Virginian, on the other hand, would have a very tough time where I work,as white folks,(like your's truly),are a distinct minority.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 22:46:27
Thank you 2 dogs.. Of course I wouldn't remove it.. I know you wouldn't take my McCain sign down (if we were allowed to puthm up!!) lol.
What kind of dogs do you have?
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Yane,

23/10/2008 22:47:18
But you're right about the t-shirt Postcard. I got my Trailer Trash one for $A30 but I thought that was very expensive. My personal favourite suit cost $A4. Had it for years & now it will cost me $A85 to have the jacket relined. I understand if you feel confused. Women's clothing is a complicated business. (Don't take this last the wrong way, just a wee joke.)
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Laurette,

23/10/2008 22:55:46
This to Lynne who is so concerned about voter fraud;

Yesterday the Los Angeles Times reported on the Republican voter registration outfit who had allegedly been illegally changing thousands of registrations from Democratic to Republican.
Last night the head of that GOP backed group, Mark Anthony Jacoby of Young Political Majors (YPM), was arrested by the California State Election Fraud Taskforce and Oxnard, CA Police.


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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 23:10:55
Laurette

You will find that voter fraud is on both sides. I hope Mark Anthony Jacoby of YPM goes to jail along with with the members of ACORN who are registering people numerous times. Because he is a Republican doesn't mean I don't dislike what he has done. He should pay for this like all the others.
Have I made myself clear yet?
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 23:12:33
Oh, by the way... I am concerned about voter fraud. Voting is a priviledge, not to be tampered with, and a made a mockery of.. on any side, by anybody.
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2dogs in D.C.,

23/10/2008 23:17:57
Lynne-A Springer Spaniel by name of Roofus,(Remember last years Champion at Westminster?) Looks just like him,but a whole lot dumber. Tukker is a rescue dog, mostly cocker but part,we think, Dauchshound.(Or however it's spelled.)Because he has the sharp, pointed nose and stumpy legs of that breed. The name 2Dogs,however,does not come from these boys. The name comes from 2 Cardigan Corgis that visit my work place every day,along with about 6 other dogs. I've used (miss-used?)my position to open up the property I maintain as an un-official dog park,complete with fresh water set out every a.m.,and doggie treats in the shop.
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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

23/10/2008 23:22:47
134- Lynne:

Sorry that my reading skills are not up to par. My impression, and most subsequent posters, was that you lived in an unusually privileged area, which I believe you do. The "million dollar trailer" reference was
due to the fact that I am not familiar with your specific nearby towns.

You must feel awful living next to these affluent places while stuck in your working-class neighborhood.

I get the impression that I am not being invited for Thankgiving dinner and European Spa treatments this year; is that right ?

Is my pal "2Dogs" invited ?
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Carolyn 1,

Woods Hole, Ma 23/10/2008 23:24:34
It's suspect that CREW (Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington) filed the complaint today with the Federal Election Commission about the money spent on Palin's clothes, because it violates campaing law,
but they did NOT file a complaint agaqinst the Obama campaign when he said, in writing, that he would limit his campaign to public funding, and then lied and raised $605 million.
That's Not an ethics concern???

American people are sick of the double standard, - and the polls reflect it
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 23:34:07
2 dogs that is great.. A doggie day care for the worker's dogs. How really very nice of you.You have a heart!! LOL
We've always had dogs since we've been married, but now unfortunately our last one (poodle) (rescued) had gone senile .. and we had her for 13 years. I'm taking a break from dog ownership at the moment, but lately we have been thinking about it again.


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Let's have the truth,

Queensland 23/10/2008 23:36:42
Just a thought, what will "Charity" do with Sarah Palin's clobber after it has been donated?





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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 23:37:53
D. Feste.. why should I feel bad about where I live.
You sound like such an elitest.. no.. don't think you could have Thanksgiving dinner here. My friends are more down to earth, and not as judgmental.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 23/10/2008 23:38:26
Regina..:)
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Let's have the truth,

Queensland 23/10/2008 23:43:16
I'm surprised that as Al-Qaeda is supporting the McCain effort in its attempt at the whitehouse so many Jews are too.
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Virginian,

USA 23/10/2008 23:52:49
#125 D. Feste-Illyria, OH

Quote:

"Notice the disdain in their [Lynne, Virginian, Carolyn,Sandi] posts, the anger, the selfishness, the paranoia that SOMETHING WILL BE TAKEN FROM THEM THAT IS THEIRS AND NO ONE ELSES."

Answer:

D.Feste, you just described THEFT, STEALING and ROBBERY.
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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

23/10/2008 23:53:21

Lynn:

You are suddenly sounding like a real human being -
good for you !

Extend that love and concern that you have for dogs to your own species and maybe we can talk again sometime.

Without compassion, we have nothing.
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Yane,

23/10/2008 23:57:32
#149 Auction it?
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 24/10/2008 00:04:46
D. Feste.. another one of your judgments. Just like I said, you are the one that lacks compassion.
How do you know what I have done or not done? My grandmother always said, "if you have to tell people what charity you have done, then you didn't do it to be charitable, you did it ot make yourself known. (loses a little in the translation) (she was from Russia originally) ...you get the gist.
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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

24/10/2008 00:08:23

153- Virginian ( answering your posting, above)

The reason that I ignore most of your postings is because I don't even know where to begin; your thoughts are so confused, so convoluted, so lacking in humanity, yet stated as if they were commonly-known facts. Your "talking points" lists seem to originate from some neo-Nazi website. They are not facts or ideas, but rather commands. All of them have one thing in common; how you are being taken advantage of in some way, being duped, being ignored, being screwed by "the liberals." That's just plain NUTS !

Sir, you are very close to being considered paranoid
and your political/philosophical views reflect a darkness of soul that I do not want to approach.

Keep it on your side of the fence - please.

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Let's have the truth,

Queensland 24/10/2008 00:10:10
McCain and Palin thanked for uniting the country:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tom-gerdy/mccainpalin----unifiers-a_b_137094.html
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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

24/10/2008 00:11:23

156- Lynn

Was she from Minsk. . . or Pinsk ?

( A Mel Brooks joke ! )
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2dogs in D.C.,

24/10/2008 00:15:22
Lynne-No,Sorry, not the workers dogs.If that were the case,my boys would come w/me every day. These dogs belong to people in the neighborhood. I have an ex-ambassador,a university professor,an employee w/fish and wildlife,a jouralist who works on the "Hill",a fine fellow who is retired,and a host of others. Most find it interesting that the blue shirt workers here can engage in interesting political discourse,and usually they wind up spending more time here than planned.The dogs,however, enjoy it immensely, as they get multiple treats.
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2dogs in D.C.,

24/10/2008 00:22:17
#157-Shakespearian Jester,I refuse to deal with him as well,I do not tolerate racists well,and in so far as I can recall,I have never, on these posts,resorted to bad language, in his case, I would have to make an exception.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 24/10/2008 00:37:11
D. Festes.. both she and my grandfather came from Odessa.
I know the joke.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 24/10/2008 00:38:09
2 dogs..must be an interesting place that you work. Sounds like fun.
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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

24/10/2008 00:38:35

#161-2Dogs

My friend, are you named after the famous Robert Burns poem "Twa Dogs?"

The Two Dogs.
A Tale.
It was in that place of Scotland's isle,
That bears the name of old King Coil,
Upon a Lovely day in June,
When wearing through the afternoon,
Two dogs, that were not busy at home,
Chance-met once upon a time.

The first I'll name, they called him Caesar,
Was kept for 'his Honor's' pleasure:
His hair, his size, his mouth, his ears,
Showed he was none of Scotland's dogs;
But bred some place far abroad,
Where sailors go to fish for cod.

( abbreviated, of course !)
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2dogs in D.C.,

24/10/2008 00:44:16
Sadly,nothing so high brow.Just 2 furry friends.Had I been aware,maybe.But no.
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2dogs in D.C.,

24/10/2008 00:50:04
Though,I am(I guess) what needs changing in Washington? You know,eastern elite?
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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

24/10/2008 00:53:49

#165 - 2Dogs

Well then, you will have to look up the rest of the poem and read it out loud to your pooches - they have no care for high or low-brow. . . whatsoever !

Here is the original . . . Dogs prefer this version !

'Twas in that place o' Scotland's isle,
That bears the name o' auld King Coil,
Upon a bonnie day in June,
When wearin' thro' the afternoon,
Twa dogs, that were na thrang at hame,
Forgather'd ance upon a time.

The first I'll name, they ca'd him Caesar,
Was keepit for 'his Honor's' pleasure:
His hair, his size, his mouth, his lugs,
Shew'd he was nane o' Scotland's dogs;
But whalpit some place far abroad,
Whare sailors gang to fish for cod.

(You are the ONLY person to recognize the name "Feste" as being a Shakespearean character - Twelfth Night.
He was the "fool," who everyone reluctantly relied on for advice, after their own foolish methods failed )





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2dogs in D.C.,

24/10/2008 00:59:38
And I will look it up.But, being dogcentric as I am, I prefer Kiplings "Power of the dog"
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2dogs in D.C.,

24/10/2008 01:05:45
So,Caesar was a Newfie? Good guys.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 24/10/2008 02:11:56
J.McGlone, unfortunately for you, but fortunately for me, that is the way builders build here. They have club houses, and executive (9 hole) or regular golf courses. It is an average comunity. THE END
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Let's have the truth,

Queensland 24/10/2008 03:36:05
#57 Lynne

" but then you can put lipstick on a pig but it is still a pig. Even a chauvanist pig".

Presumably you refer to me as being chauvinistic.

"Chauvinist" is the correct spelling and I can assure you I don't wear lipstick, a little mascara perhaps and some rouge now and then but never lipstick.

Good gracious woman, doesn't that maddening drawl, mispronunciations and general garbage that emanates from her lips get on your nerves?

30 seconds of her is all I can take. The next 4 years of her saying NUCULER would be too much.
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TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 24/10/2008 10:39:27
131 Regina from NH

I am not aware that I belong to any "crowd", especially one consisting of the sculpted bodies of South Beach.

I have never been there as I find it to be a superficial place filled with vacuous people having parties at all hours and dissipating their lives in a hedonistic, drinks-filled, drug-infested orgy of self-gratification.

Although I am not a "semblance of the form divine" my weight is proportional to my height and I have inherited the good looks of both my parents.

What you are trying to imply in your post is usual for persons of your type and education.

I have an eye for beauty - be it in a woman, a man, the limpid eyes and shiny coat of my Black Labrador Retriever "Chester", the royal swans gliding on the Rideau River which I can see from my balcony, the range of colours in the leaves as they change in a spectacular display of fall splendour, the glorious long movements of a Bruckner symphony, etc.

Therefore, the implication of your posting with regard to me is without merit and baseless and I often ponder on the sly and underhanded motives of persons such as yourself.

You sound VERY pleased with yourself and must feel that your opinions and worldviews carry more weight than those of others.

What a sad existence you must lead, being so self-assured and over-bearing.

I wish you well in the continuance of your delusional life.
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A Clamper,

Edinburgh 24/10/2008 11:19:51
116 Virginian - "If you repeat a lie often enough people will believe it " Who said it ...

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” Joseph Goebbels. Nazi.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 24/10/2008 21:25:53
Alan Reid.. because HE is THE ONE, The MESSIAH
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Let's have the truth,

Queensland 24/10/2008 23:49:02
John Cleese praising Sarah Palin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9my7J-GbnU&feature=related

Who'd have thought she would win his admiration
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Rob Bennett,

Christchurch NZ In Transit 25/10/2008 03:05:10
#180 Lynne,Palm Beach Gardens
"because HE is THE ONE, The MESSIAH"
She finally admitted the truth

Alan Reid is a fraud just like you
Copy and Paste his name to Comments Section to verify
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