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Published Date: 15 January 2009
THE fragile state of the UK economy was underlined yesterday when bank shares plummeted on the day the government unveiled its latest scheme to help firms survive the credit crunch.
The FTSE 100 share index ended almost 5 per cent down, with shares in Royal Bank of Scotland, HBOS and Barclays – which announced 2,100 job losses for the second time in a week – among the day's biggest losers.

With bleak news from the US and fear
s that UK banks may have to ask the government for more money blamed for the slide, RBS suffered the biggest drop of the day, with its shares falling 18 per cent to end at 41.7p. Barclays fell 14 per cent and HBOS 13.5 per cent.

The news came despite the government announcing a package of measures to get banks lending to small and medium-sized businesses again.

Supported by government guarantees, banks will provide £20 billion of short-term loans for two years to provide struggling companies with additional working capital.

Small firms – those with a turnover of up to £25 million – will be able to apply for loans of between £1,000 and £1 million for up to a decade.

And the government is also prepared to take shares in hi-tech firms that have high levels of debt, after setting up a £75 million reserve with high-street banks.

Gordon Brown told the Commons at Prime Minister's Questions yesterday that the government was providing "real help for businesses now".

He said: "It's targeted and focused, it's funded, it's additional to what has been done before."

But the Conservatives said the scheme was too complicated and accused him of adopting a "pale imitation" of their £50 billion proposal.

There was also controversy as Mervyn Davies resigned as chairman of the investment bank Standard Chartered to become a government minister in Lord Mandelson's business department. He will be unpaid and will take a seat in the Lords.

But Labour and Tory MPs were angry that another business minister – in addition to Lord Mandelson and Baroness Vadera – would not be able to answer questions in the Commons.

Unveiling the government scheme, Lord Mandelson said he recognised that banks needed "further help and encouragement" to resume lending to businesses, either by extending existing loans or providing new credit.

"They have not responded in the way we would like," he said.

The main part of the package is a working capital scheme, in which the government underwriting £10 billion of bank loans, which it believes will allow banks to lend twice that amount.

Banks will have to agree with the government which loans are granted. The first tranche is expected to be approved in the next six to eight weeks.

Banks will also be expected to make new loans to other firms and individuals.

Businesses will be able to convert overdrafts to loans, effectively cutting the cost of borrowing and putting their repay-ments on a stable basis.

Lord Mandelson said that £225 million of government reserves had been set aside as a "prudent" measure in the event of a percentage of these loans going bad. "You can't imagine there will be no defaults at all," he said.

He said he was "absolutely confident" that the initiatives would produce positive results , but indicated further measures were in the pipeline.

Appearing later before the Commons business and enterprise committee, he said: "The government continues to keep under review the measures it's already taken. "

But he underlined the dire predicament in which many banks found themselves, when he said: "It's going to take quite a bit of time before the banks are restored to health."





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Evolution in action,

St Andrews 15/01/2009 00:03:19

As a general rule insolvent banks kept afloat by government bailouts are probbaly not the best investment.
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Jimmy Twoshoes,

15/01/2009 00:18:08
As a general rule, share prices go up and down.

It's going back up some time
3

Tris,

15/01/2009 00:30:32
I wouldn't be thinking of investing in them. There are still a lot of fiddles (that the senior people knerw about but didn't understand) to be uncovered. I doubt any of them knows just how deep in the sh*t they really are.

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15/01/2009 00:36:10
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Evolution in action,

15/01/2009 01:10:14
#2

The share price is not going up again in the event the company goes into bankruptcy protection and the share price goes to zero.
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Jimmy Twoshoes,

15/01/2009 01:13:56
a company does not go into bankruptcy protection.

Similarly if a company is liquidated the shareholders don't automatically lose their money.

Your ramblings seem to be somewhat typical of the ignorant public - but everyone thinks they know right?
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Evolution in action,

St Andrews 15/01/2009 01:18:32


#6 I suppose Jim lad, you mean for example a company like Northern Rock. which has left the share holders, let me see....oh yes, that would be zero.
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Jimmy Twoshoes,

15/01/2009 01:22:10
Did you actually read what I wrote? Are the words I used too long for you?

for your benefit, and even though it's just there, I'll retype what I said.

if a company is liquidated the shareholders don't automatically lose their money.

For the avoidance of doubt, this means it doesn't happen in every case as you say it does in post #5.
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Evolution in action,

15/01/2009 01:30:34

#8 Aaargh Jim lad, restructuring is also part of UK bankruptcy law, but in both cases share holders are the on the lowest rung of the creditor ladder. To all intents and puposes, share value goes to zero or near zero.
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Jimmy Twoshoes,

15/01/2009 01:33:59
thanks for the lesson, but am quite comfortable with my knowledge on the ranking of ordinary shares thanks.

but glad to see you googled it this time rather than let the fingers start doing their thing before the brain got involved

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Evolution in action,

15/01/2009 01:39:14
#10..refer to #1, Restructuring is called usually bankruptcy protection.
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Julian.,

edinburgh 15/01/2009 02:44:03
Jimmy,

Sorry but I have to point out your original comment "it's going back up some time" in reference to #1's comment about bank share investment is not strictly true.

Some of these shares in banks may never recover, as we saw last year with Northern Rock.
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John Cameron,

St Andrews 15/01/2009 07:45:46
Is anyone surprised that the bank shares fell after the most recent cunning plan by Mad Gordy MacBroon to save the financial world? The only news that would cause the FTSE to rebound would be that our Dear Leader had been run over by the proverbial London bus.
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Number 6,

Germany 15/01/2009 08:29:29
Investor Confidence is a major reason for shares moving up or down. Clearly, Brown's "Back of a fag packet" policies are going down like a lead balloon
by those in the know.
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Jacqueline Hyde ,

On the shelf 15/01/2009 08:55:02
#11
I assume you are not of these shores. There is no practical bankruptcy protection either in Scotland or the rest of the UK. The so-called corporate restructuring is normally carried out by insolvency practitioners on behalf of a single major creditor and at the expense (ultimately) of the shareholders. It is invariably a prelude to receivership or a disadvatageous takeover.

However, the UK banks are in a more privileged position because deposits up to £50,000 are guaranteed by the UK government. The guarantee in itself is meaningless as the government would simply be incapable of meeting its obligations but it has had the effect of ensuring that the government is forced to prevent any UK bank going under - regardless of the reckless excesses and incompetence of the bank's management.

Even complete nationalisation should not necessarily mean that a bank's shareholders will lose everything but, as the share prices fall and the government takes a greater stake in the bank, the likelihood of recovering any meaningful return is reduced. I suspect that Mandelson's barely-veiled threats are designed to drive down the share prices further to increase the government's potential capital return when the shares are re-floated in the future - either that or he only opened his mouth to change feet.

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Number 6,

Germany 15/01/2009 11:01:58
#17 Jacqueline,

Would you advise leaving savings in the banks, or move them into Premium bonds or something similar?
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Griffe,

15/01/2009 12:34:51
Further proof that this government have no idea in hope to deal with this recession.
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Il Penseroso,

Inverurie 15/01/2009 15:04:37
Dare I ask all you shareholders in Gt Britain p.l.c.? Do you trust the Treasury to compensate you if lies and illegal actions by companies lose your investments? Do you trust the companies you invest in? Do you trust the regulators and actuaries who monitor the structures of company workings and business transactions? I hope you didn't invest in Equitable Life. And who was keeping an eye on that band of robbers? H.M.Treasury.And who was in charge of H.M. Treasury? Why Prudent Gordon, Chancellor of the Exchequer. Need I say more?
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