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Zoo fights ban on selling off green belt for housing



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Published Date: 10 September 2008
EDINBURGH Zoo's failed efforts to sell off green belt land for housing are to be revisited after bosses decided to fight the council's ruling.
Last year councillors overturned the authority's previous support for plans to build housing on part of Corstorphine Hill. The move was a major setback for the zoo, which wanted to sell off the land to raise up to £20 million to help fund its 20-year
masterplan to create a world-class visitor attraction.

But zoo chiefs today confirmed they are now mounting a challenge, which will be heard at a local inquiry into Edinburgh's future development.

The local plan lays down the rules governing how the Capital will be allowed to develop over the coming years, and the inquiry will get under way later this month.

Independent reporters are expected to hear the argument from The Royal Zoological Society of Scotland, which runs Edinburgh Zoo, in December. They will then make a recommendation to the council – although this can ultimately be ignored.

But Eddie Price, chairman of the Friends of Corstorphine Hill group which opposed the zoo's plans, said he was "concerned".

He said: "The scheme is crazy. It's a beautiful piece of land, and the views are phenomenal."

At last year's committee meeting, council officials recommended backing the zoo and re-zoning greenbelt land off Kaimes Road for housing.

But councillors voted seven to six in favour of a motion to accept the objections of protesters.

They were supported by local Lib Dem councillor Paul Edie, who today said one of the main sticking points was the proposed loss of a local nature reserve. "I still have grave reservations about the zoo's proposals," he said.

However, former Lord Provost Eric Milligan – an ardent supporter of the zoo – disagreed, saying: "It was a disgraceful decision, taken after years of detailed consideration by planning officers (who recommended approval]."

A council spokeswoman said: "We have been in discussions with Edinburgh Zoo regarding its expansion proposals. The zoo is a key asset for Edinburgh and we would encourage the zoo to continue discussions with us regarding options for its future development in the city.

"It would be inappropriate to comment further until (the local] inquiry is complete."

A spokeswoman for Edinburgh Zoo confirmed where the organisation will put its case to "reverse the decision".





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  • Last Updated: 10 September 2008 10:47 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Edinburgh Zoo
 
1

festerlehearts,

10/09/2008 12:12:23
the council must be in with this its all about the trams .....LEAVE THE ZOO ALONE ... maybe the people behind this should end up in there
2

Moscow Central 42,

10/09/2008 12:36:09

Even the Liberal Democrat Convenor of the Planning Committee, Counicllor Lowrie, supports the Zoo's case. Unfortunately for him he was taking a rather badly timed holiday when the planning decision was taken.The Chairman of the Friends of Corstorphine Hill is entitled to his narrow view. However, he strikes me as man who knows the Price of everything and the value of nothing.
3

David Harrington,

Edinburgh 10/09/2008 12:37:52
#1 Perhaps you should take a look at a map - the tram system goes nowhere the Zoo
4

Howard Moon,

10/09/2008 12:54:15
#3

I presume you mean 'nowhere near'?
Well that's not exactly true is it? I mean, all the promotional guff tells us to 'alight here for Edinburgh zoo', the insinuation clearly being that it is somewhere near the zoo.
5

Bored,

10/09/2008 13:11:24
#2
I'm afraid that I totally disagree with you. Cortorphine Hill is currently a beautiful and tranquill place within Edinburgh for us all to enjoy. Under the proposals, a large part of this will be lost to us. Using any current green area of this city to build upon will only go to reducing the air quality and making our lives more miserable. I agree with the Chairman of the Friends of Corstorphine Hill as true value is the well being of all and not the 'BIG £'.
6

Jamie Dunne,

Edinburgh 10/09/2008 13:42:27
Well, as long as everybody opposed to this is a financial supporter of the zoo, I appreciate their concerns.

If not, I'm interested how they suggest the zoo, or the Council, or anybody else in this city raises money without selling off land for development.
7

Top Floor,

10/09/2008 13:52:44

#3 Howard

What promotional guff ???

The tram doesn't go past the zoo - fact, or is that a bit inconvenient for your anti tram views ?

The point is our parochial Council will sway in the wind depending on who's bending their ear at the time. The Zoo is a valubale visitor attraction and scientfic and conservation facility and should be supported by the city, and the government for that matter.

The Lib Dems don't have a clue about planning for a sustainable future or a successful economy.

8

The Judge,

10/09/2008 13:56:24
They will get planning permission for any number of houses as long as the bribe for the tramLINE is big enough, they(council) can't afford to turn down the money.
9

Mario Antoinette,

(the new Paul Voltaire) 10/09/2008 14:26:25
Never mind CERN's black hole.

The trams are sucking in the whole of Edinburgh.

I was sucked in years ago.
10

D2,

10/09/2008 14:34:19
#5 totally agree with you about the hill being a nice place. Unfortunately for your argument the particular section of land is ppart of the zoo not the wooded area open to the public. The land in question is fenced off so there is no public access to it from the hill, only from the zoo and most of it is actually innaccessible to the public inside the zoo grounds anyway. The last time the area was used to house zoo animals on a regular basis was nearly 20 years ago when residents of Kaimes Rd had a lovely view of a flock of sheep.
As far as I remember last time this came up the real issue is not that houses be built there it is the number of houses to be crammed into the space.
11

notsobornfree,

glasgow 10/09/2008 15:27:32
has anyone not pointed out that the land the zoo propose to sell is currently not accessible by general public?

that the land is within zoo grounds?

that the plan is NOT to knock down all the houses on Kaimes Road, Murrayfield Hospital, Murrayfield stadium and edinburgh castle to build houses?

lets have some perspective here....

this is not about saving land, this is not about the zoo expanding/decreasing in size, this is clearly the residents of Kaimes road not wanting new houses beside them

or more to the point, worrying that people of 'lesser class' moving in beside them

this is my opinion as a supporter of the zoo, take from this what you want, but if you are going to put up an arguement then get the facts first

NO CURRENT PUBLIC ACCESIBILE LAND IS INCLUDED IN THE SALE


12

Bored,

10/09/2008 15:49:19
#10 D2

Last I heard the Zoo wanted to acquire part of the nature reserve for it's expansion plans. I could be wrong as it was reported in this rag several months ago.
However, all this may be irrelevent as there are very few investors about, wanting to build houses.
13

Kezza,

10/09/2008 16:14:40
#7 Top Floor

Here's the promotional guff: Goto http://www.tramtime.com/tramhovermap.html and hover your mouse over Balgreen.

It clearly states "Alight Here For: Edinburgh Zoo" even though the Zoo is a good 45 minute walk from the proposed tram stop.

You can't blame Howard Moon (#4) for believing TIEs lies.
14

HHJAMBO,

edinburgh 10/09/2008 16:51:56
There are plenty of other cities who would be willing to support a world class zoo. It's about time our short sighted council woke up to that.
15

gorgeousgorgieboy,

Edinburgh 10/09/2008 16:55:34
Giraff my land.
16

Pat Sharpe,

Edinburgh 10/09/2008 17:07:08
11: Spot on!

12: Correct, however in return for this very small part of land (near the top of the hill), the zoo is giving a slightly *larger* area of land back to the reserve further down the slope. **Indeed this is a completely DIFFERENT application to that concerning the land sale.** On top of giving land to the reserve, the RZSS have also pledged around £50K/year for several years to the local reserve to improve pathways and make it better for the public to enjoy.

The land sale issue is of land currently owned by RZSS, it is inaccesible to the public and objections are from residents who dont want extra housing nearby, thus decreasing value of thier property etc
17

Strathmore,

Angus 10/09/2008 19:06:31
Blimey, Eddie Price has got his name in the paper again i was concerned too but only about his comment. Lets have a bigger and better Zoo Park , Eddie you were in the Travel Industry surely improving the amenity will bring increased visitors and more local Revenue.
18

blackley,

Edinburgh 10/09/2008 22:04:36
I wish they'd shut the zoo. Ghastly place. You can't see the animals half the time. The best thing about it is at least the brutes get fed regularly. Not that they look terribly happy on it. Except the monkeys but they're just daft anyway aren't they? sell it off for housing and hurry up about it.
19

Matt there,

somewhere 10/09/2008 23:59:37
So, let's boil this down to the basics:-

The Royal Zoological Society of Scotland is so concerned about "the environment" -in a broad means nothing really, though it makes us sound caring and green, donacha know! sort of a way- that it intends to destroy a real example of an important local environment.

And whilst it might destroy a real environment for indigenous wildlife, it will possibly help fund a faux environment for a few non-indigenous creatures in a bloody zoo, for goodness sake!

(In a statement for the Royal Zoological Society of Scotland a spokesdrone said: "Give us our own way, because we are very, very important. Environment, blah, blah, blah. Ecology, blah, blah, blah. Vital to the whatsit of the thingy, blah, blah, blah. Please let us destroy Corstorphine Hill, oops! Shouldn't have said that!"
20

notsobornfree,

glasgow 11/09/2008 08:13:02
land sale
land sale
land sale

what does this mean to you? expansion?

it is a sale of land that is not currently accessible to general public, at present on this land is:

1 the zoo reception building
2 the road inside the zoo by the hunting dogs
3 the monkey house
4 the old gorilla house
5 the old giraffe house (currently housing the rhinos)
6 the offshow buildings behind number 5
7 the offshow greenhouses
8 the 'closed to public'land behind the top of the hill paddock housing the white lipped deer

this is a plan to DECREASE the size of the zoo

once again, this is not about this is not about the zoo expanding, this zoo is DECREASING in size

LAND THIS IS NOT ACCESSIBLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC ie private land!!!

21

They call me mr positive,

Corstorphine 11/09/2008 18:46:55
OK, I'll admit it, I have an interest in this zoo development given that I live in Kaimes Road. I am also not a nimby and am ok about the zoo selling the land and building houses on its west side. What perturbs me about the zoo proposes is the sale of the land and the proposed lease of the land from the council on the east side of the zoo - roughly keeping the zoo at the size it is but moving it east.

To give you an idea where I mean there is a footpath opposite Balgreen Road and the zoo proposes to lease the land around this footpath right up Corstorphine Hill to the top end of the zoo.

Also the land that they propose to sell and also lease is termed inner city greenbelt so it reduces the green space in the area.

#8 the zoo owns the land even though it is called inner city green belt

#10 obviously the zoo has to be fenced off but it probably only occupies 10% of Corstorphine Hill - go onto google maps satellite if you dont believe me

#11 i am not a nimby and the building of houses is not an issue and with regards to your snide comment on lower classes I would like to point out that earlier this year the port of leith housing association built and then let out approximately 12 town houses to the lower classes.

#1, #3, #4. #13 45 minutes from tram station at balgreen road to the zoo. Are you crawling. If you walk along the railway cutting you will be at the zoo in 15-20 minutes. It also a nice walk by the way!

#16 how does extra housing nearby decrease the value of property? In my time in Kaimes there have been 12+ social housing properties built and at least 6 private houses built. So that does not compute. However your point on the money pledge I have not heard before and will look into.

#20 I have reached the conclusion you are not exactly a subject matter expert on this matter.

I hope this has been informative to you all.

mr positive

22

notsobornfree,

glasgow 11/09/2008 19:36:24
# 21

regarding my comment #11 - apology for snide comment

regarding my comment #20 - the 8 points i list are accurate of land the zoo is proposing to sell

this sale of land is a separate issue completely from other land they are trying to lease off the council

however press reports do not make this distinction nor highlight what is currently held on the majority of the land proposed to be sold

 

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