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US refused to support Iran attack



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Published Date: 12 January 2009
PRESIDENT George Bush rejected a secret request by Israel last year for specialised bunker-busting bombs the country wanted for an attack on Iran's main nuclear complex, and told the Israelis he had authorised new covert action intended to sabotage Iran's suspected effort to develop nuclear weapons.
According to inside sources, White House officials never conclusively determined whether Israel had decided to go ahead with the strike before the United States protested, or whether the Israeli prime minister, Ehud Olmert, was trying to goad the Whi
te House into more decisive action before Mr Bush left office. But the Bush administration was particularly alarmed by an Israeli request to fly over Iraq to reach Iran's major nuclear complex at Natanz, where the country's only known uranium enrichment plant is located.

The White House denied that request outright, American officials said, and the Israelis backed down, at least temporarily.

This account of the expanded American covert programme and the Bush administration's efforts to dissuade Israel from an aerial attack on Iran emerged in a series of off-the-record interviews over the past 15 months with current and former US officials, outside experts, international nuclear inspectors and European and Israeli officials.

The interviews also suggest that, while Mr Bush was extensively briefed on options for an overt US attack on Iran's facilities, he never instructed the Pentagon to move beyond contingency planning, contrary to what some critics have suggested.

Late last year, international inspectors estimated that Iran had 3,800 centrifuges spinning, but American intelligence officials now estimate that the figure is 4,000 to 5,000, enough to produce about one weapon's worth of uranium every eight months or so.

Israel's plan for an attack on Iran grew out of anger at an American intelligence assessment completed in late 2007 that concluded Iran had effectively suspended its development of nuclear weapons four years earlier.

The report's conclusion also stunned Mr Bush's national security team and the president himself, who was deeply suspicious of the conclusion, according to officials.

Early in 2008, the Israeli government signalled it might be preparing to take matters into its own hands. In a series of meetings, Israel asked Washington for weaponry capable of blowing up a deep underground plant, refuelling equipment that would allow their aircraft to reach Iran and return to Israel and for the right to fly over Iraq.

One of his top aides said that Mr Bush deflected the first two requests, but "we said, 'Hell no' to the overflights". At the White House and the Pentagon, there was concern that a political uproar in Iraq about the use of its US-controlled airspace could result in the expulsion of American forces from the country.

Last June, the Israelis conducted an exercise over the Mediterranean Sea. Analysis by Pentagon officials concluded that the distances flown almost exactly equalled the distance between Israel and the Iranian nuclear site at Natanz. "This really spooked a lot of people," one White House official said.

The Bush administration identified two specific objectives: to slow progress at Natanz and other known and suspected nuclear facilities, and to keep the pressure on a little-known Iranian professor named Mohsen Fakrizadeh, a scientist described in classified portions of US intelligence reports as deeply involved in an effort to design a nuclear warhead for Iran.

Several years ago, foreign intelligence services tinkered with power units that Iran bought in Turkey to drive its centrifuges, the equipment used to enrich uranium for use in power stations or, with additional enrichment, nuclear weapons. A number of centrifuges blew up, prompting public declarations of sabotage by Iranian officials.

ANALYSIS

THE covert American programme, started in early 2008, aims to penetrate Iran's nuclear supply chain abroad, and undermine electrical systems, computer systems and other networks on which Iran relies. This could delay the production of the weapons-grade fuel and designs Iran needs to create a workable nuclear weapon.

One senior intelligence official argued that the Iranians were already so close to achieving a weapons capacity that they were unlikely to be stopped.

Others point out the Israelis would not have been dissuaded from conducting an attack if they believed that the American effort would not prove effective.







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  • Last Updated: 11 January 2009 10:37 PM
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1

Newton_Invented_Gravity,

12/01/2009 00:34:21
'and told the Israelis he had authorised new covert action intended to sabotage Iran's suspected effort to develop nuclear weapons.'

Can you imagine, what would happen if the Iranians were engaged in covert action inside the USA?
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Alexander the Scot,

Michigan 12/01/2009 00:36:30
All Israel will have to do, is wait for the decision of the most "high", Barack Hussein Obama, now that the World's whipping boy, George Walker Bush is stepping aside. Soon the one that the World loves, the "messiah" will be calling the shots.... no pun intended.
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Rob Bennett,

Beautiful Byron Bay 12/01/2009 00:55:35
Barack Obama needs to take over ASAP from the clown named George Bush. Negotiation is what is urgently required between Iran and the USA. Israel don't believe in communicating with words only with bombs and their superior American made weaponry. That's all very nice, however that's about to change very soon and when the shoe is on the other foot and it will be one day, Israel will have no choice but to sit down at the negotiating table to listen and make compromises. It's time to talk boys.
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Fifi la Bonbon,

12/01/2009 01:24:35
#1 - "Can you imagine, what would happen if the Iranians were engaged in covert action inside the USA?"

I would assume they already are. With millions of Iranians living in the USA, of course they are.

By the way - what an irony, that George Galloway MP supplements his already significant earnings as a paid employee of the Iranian state "Press TV" active in the UK and broadcast on SKY satellite, when the Iranian clerical regime has kicked out and banned the BBC Persian service from its territory!
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Newton_Invented_Gravity,

12/01/2009 03:19:03
#4 'I would assume they already are. With millions of Iranians living in the USA, of course they are.'

so any American with a bit of an Arabic sounding name is secretly working against the US? wow -you're a real piece of racist excrement aren't you? You wouldn't happen to have any proof of your assertion would you?
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Lianachan,

Highlands 12/01/2009 11:10:04
If only Israel could be talked out of their most recent, current, attempt at the ethnic cleansing of Palestine. However, Israel does whatever it wants, and anybody who criticises them (at all) is branded an anti-semite (or even Nazi).
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Newman!,

12/01/2009 11:44:01
I think Iran probably needs a nuclear weapon as defence from the beligerent countries around it.
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Newman!,

12/01/2009 11:52:59
So no mention in the Scotsman (or Scotland on Sunday) of 10,000 people marching in Edinburgh on Saturday against Israeli aggression. I wonder why?
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billengland,

12/01/2009 13:01:26
9 Number 6

Obama will do what all USA presidents do, support Israel.

He has no choice with both houses almost unanimously supporting Israel's latest butchery in Gaza. Besides, his Chief of Staff is an Israeli IDF reservist.
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Number 6,

Germany 12/01/2009 13:54:36
#10 billengland,

I don't see it that way at all. Yes, Obama appeared pro-israel in the election campaign, he had no real choice on that one.

While he supports the existence of Israel, there is no way he condones their revolting and savage tactics.

The fact he is prepared to engage Iran and Hamas indicates he is not prepared to toe any israeli line .
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Lynne,

12/01/2009 13:56:39
#1. #2, #3, #4, #6, #7, #9, #10... a link to show who you stand behind.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=I1M4eH9Kk7I
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Silence of the Yams,

12/01/2009 14:01:44
Some typical anti semite Israel bashing here by the usual lefty fascist raghead lovers.
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Number 6,

Germany 12/01/2009 14:15:32
#13. If you were not so ignorant you would be able to make the distinction between anti-semetic and anti Isralei policies.
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Carolyn 1,

12/01/2009 14:54:19
@10& 11
No, the future ex-president Obama will stick his finger up in the air and do a test as to what is best for his legacy, and then read a poll while he makes no decision but sends Hillary out to do the job, and if she's wrong he'll throw that woman under the bus faster than you say, ooops
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Lynne,

12/01/2009 14:56:59
:) You got that right!!! There is a pile of those people under the bus now.

Maybe the word "present" will be heard...yet again
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Lynne,

12/01/2009 14:57:37
Carolyn 1.. that was for you.. sorry I should have put the number first.
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A Clamper,

Edinburgh 12/01/2009 15:07:05
You Bush apologists make me laugh. This story is no more than attempt to make it look as though Bush isn't at the beck and call of Israel and their slaughter of the Palestinians.
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Lianachan,

Highlands 12/01/2009 15:09:53
13 - thanks for proving my point in such a wonderfully ironic way.
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Carolyn 1,

12/01/2009 15:14:35



My future ex-president talks out of both sides of his mouth while saying absolutely nothing yet manages to bring crowds to a standing ovation around the world, Yes We Can!! ObamaObamaObama..
I just don't see the leaders of Iran and Syria as falling under the spell and saying Yes We can!! Except of course to say yes, we can and will build whatever nuclear weapons we chose.
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Number 6,

Germany 12/01/2009 15:29:09
#20 Just remind us again , where does it say that America decides who has and who not got the right to nuclear weapons.

Are you really that stupid and dumb that you think America somehow rules the world?.

The Arabs laughed in your face when you begged them to increase oil production, and the Israelis won't listen to a word you say either.

You live in a fantasy world, a world that ignores the fact that Israel even has it's own Nazi gangs, complete with Swastika tattoos .

You ignore the fact that organised criminal gangs are killing more jews in Israel than the Arabs could ever do.

It is a disgusting hell-hole that America would do well to wash it's hands of. I await the usual denials from those living in the "Land of the free"
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Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 12/01/2009 15:35:05
FiFi La BonBon in #4 asserts that the Iranian government is orchestrating 'covert actions' inside the US. There is no evidence of this at all. Inside of Iran the US has for years in fact been engaging in covert activities where domestic terrorists inside of Iran are funded and supplied, then they actually do stage attacks where many people get killed. In one incident the presidential motorcade was attacked and some guards were killed. There is nothing equivalent being done by the many Iranians who live inside the US.

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Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 12/01/2009 15:47:49
regarding accusations of 'anti-semitism' above: The Palestinians are a 100% semitic people. so are the egyptians and the iraqis. According to today's dictionary definitions the Israelis are also semitic because they're jewish though the large majority of Israelis come from Europe. According to dictionary definitions that prevailed prior to 30 years ago the European jewish immigrants to Israel are not semitic. the definition has been changed to include world-wide jews even though they don't originate from the Semitic region where the arabs come from.

So we have the ironic situation where a 100% semitic people (Palestinians) are savagely attacked by what I think is a non-semitic nation (Israel) and anyone who doesn't approve of the attack is said to be anti-semitic.

here's a bible verse.

"Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in [their] knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;"

I'd say on a mass scale many of our fellow citizens do not have brains that are operable. their minds have been turned over to a reprobate condition.

Judgement is coming.


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Wally,

Psalm 137 (USA) 12/01/2009 16:03:58
It breaks my heart that I read yesterday that US Army personnel are in Egypt now helping the Egyptians to identify where the tunnels are that provide food, medicine, fuel & other supplies to gaza. Then the Egyptians blow the tunnels up. this is done to allegedly stop the flow of weaponry into gaza. But it also stops the food and all the supplies that go into gaza. The Israelis will not allow normal trade. The Egyptians go along with the Israelis. The US pays for it all including the Israeli military machine that enforces it and the aid to Egypt who must be bought off.

Our nation's resources today are hijacked and used for evil purposes. Most of us Americans are very sad over this. One third of the dead in Gaza are children. We are trying to prevent all 1.5 million people from getting food, medicine & other vital supplies. There is blood on us and we cannot wash it off.

The nation that I was born into as a boy was a very good nation. DeTocqueville, the french intellectual, wrote in the early 1800's that America would be a great nation simply because its people were good. We were a nation that lifted the living standards of the whole world. We inspired and led a situation globally where people were not as oppressed as before, where freedom did come to many people globally and where prosperity became normal. Those who don't know this to be true don't know world history.

but today evil has come to rest on our nation. and we are a captive people. that is why I continually refer to Psalm 137 and say that we have great difficulty singing the Lord's song in a strange land.

The day will come at the second coming when these things will change.
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Beachcomber,

Edinburgh 12/01/2009 16:22:51
Who weilds the Power in the USA?
This is a 12 part series, and an eye opener.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxjSF8qFbhw
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Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 12/01/2009 16:30:52
here's an editorial by the conservative republican Paul Craig Roberts. He titles it 'America's Shame'. If you are American and you don't feel this shame, then I suggest that you are ignorant, stupid or your conscience has been seared over. Please read the link.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21712.htm

Here's an interview from conservative Republican congressman Ron Paul.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C756NOPyDA&eurl=http://whatreallyhappened.com/&feature=player_embedded

The world will blame America. Do the Americans know that their government is helping Israel committ murder? Americans - wake up, do not be deceived.

here's a story about the children being killed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9PIZQqIep4&eurl=http://whatreallyhappened.com/&feature=player_embedded

each and every one of those children killed shown in this video was killed by weaponry provided by the Americans.
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Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 12/01/2009 16:43:27
Killing children is self-defense the Israelis kill us. Remember 1/3'rd of the almost 900 already killed are children. Let us measure the provocations that were done to cause this fighting to determine if it was justified.

In the last 3 years the Palestinians have killed 10-12 Israelis each year. This is the total death toll among all Israelis at the hands of Palestinians during this time period, the last 3 years. This is the provocation, so stated by the Israeli government. The Israelis over that 3 year period killed on average 550-650 Palestinians each of those 3 years.

The proper way to measure these things per comparison is to put the statistic into deaths per 100,000 population per year. The palestinians murdered less than 0.20 Israelis per each 100,000 Israelis per year. Remember the Israelis have about 6.5 million people. The Palestinians also have about 6.5 million people. So in the last 3 years the Israelis have killed over 9 palestinians per 100,000 population per year. Compared to 0.20 by the Palestinians.

But today the Israelis have escalated, killing 869 people in only 17 days, one third of them children. This alone is a killing rate of 13 per 100,000 per year.

We have 2 American cities with murder rates over 60 people per 100,000 per year. We have 10 American cities with murder rates over 40. We have 100 cities with murder rates over 10 per 100,000 per year.

If we used Israeli standards, then we would identify the neighborhoods where murderers are disproportionately produced in all of these high-murder cities and we would bomb those neighborhoods.

today there's a news story about 5 people shot at a basketball game in 'south side' of chicago. The people of this part of chicago have been committing murders disproportionately for decades. They should be bombed. We should send in tanks. We should kill their children. If the Israelis can do it for a murder rate of 0.20 per 100,000 per year, then surely we can do it f
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Wally,

Psalm 137 (USA) 12/01/2009 16:45:01
If the Israelis can do it for a murder rate of 0.20 per 100,000 per year, then surely we can do it for a murder rate 100 times that high. We have cities with murder rates 300 times that high. We must act in order to stop the killing.
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danbob,

12/01/2009 16:59:01
Wally 23# Your use of Romans 1-28 is reprehensible. That verse is taken from a letter from Paul to the Romans about all of mankind not the Jews specificaly. Dont misuse the bible to show your ignorance and anti Jewish vile, because I for one will take you up on it.
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danbob,

12/01/2009 17:06:48
If you like quoting scriptures Wally 31# read this.

Matt. 23:37, 38: “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets and stoner of those sent forth to her,—how often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks together under her wings! But you people did not want it. Look! Your house is abandoned to you.”
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Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 12/01/2009 17:16:54
DanBob in #32. my use of Romans 1:28 in #24 expresses an idea and has nothing to do with jews. I think you should be able to follow the logic pretty easily. People today are confused and don't even know the meaning of the word 'semite' when they say anti-semite. Facts are that the Palestinians & the egyptians and all of the arabs are semitic. and yet anybody who doesn't approve of killing them is said (in some quarters) to be anti-semitic. and the people (Israelis) most likely to spout this accusation 'anti-semitic' are themselves not semitic according to dictionary definitions that prevailed prior to 30 years ago. If thats not an example of confused and stupid thinking (reprobate) on a large scale, then I don't know what is.

How else do people get to be so stupid unless their minds have been turned over to a reprobate condition?

You may feel it illegitimate for someone to presume that there is a god who does rule, but I do not. and if you really are determined to not tolerate my speech as you say, then you will need the help of an evil fascist censor as I will not cooperate.
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Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 12/01/2009 17:43:04
Danbob in 33:

there are many scripture chapters & verses. there are 5 times as many interpretations of such. and our discussions can be endless and confusing if we do not seek the truth. but as you raised the issue and seem to have some mis-understandings I think it worthwhile to review some basic fundamentals of christian faith.

Much is made today of the 'Old Covenant' promises made in the early books of the Old Testament. In this covenant a tribe of people was promised that if they would live by a set of laws given to them by god, then god would provide blessings & protections. Whenever this covenant was spoken in the old books it was said that the covenant was conditional, depending on this tribe's willingness to follow 'The Law' which includes the 10 commandments and much else. Many times it is spoken in the old testament that if this tribe (called jews today) did not follow the law, then god would not just desert this people, but punish them strongly. and it is always stated that if these people would follow the law, then god would always protect them. point is, it is always conditional, not un-conditional - if you will only read the scripture.

In the book of Jeremiah (chapters 13 & 31) the jewish prophet jeremiah says that god told him that the jews did not follow the law, a divorce between god and the jews did occur, and the Old Covenant is broken as a result. Then even in Jeremiah it says that IF the jews will humble themselves and again follow the law, then the Old Covenant will be restored. This is a conditional statement and as I said in Jeremiah 13 & 31 both it is stated the Old Covenant is no longer because the conditions were not met.

Then, as you refer in Romans and in Galatians of the new testament a new understanding is given. God has new blessings and new protections to be given to those who believe regardless of ethnic background. Please read Galatians 3:29.

"Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neit
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Carolyn 1,

12/01/2009 20:47:06
Stolen ID (??) Horrible Cankers @ 26
>"That's right, what's good for the goose is good for the gander
In other words Carolyn every country in the world has a right to acquire nuclear weapons" <


That's an affirmative.

And it will be Europe's problem to deal with.

The America's are peaceful neighbors so why would we care if you guys get blown up?
I've long said I think it's time for Israel to pack up and leave that sand pit and move to the land of the free and home of the brave.
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Yok Finney,

Ross-shire 12/01/2009 22:41:50
Nations as we know them were created by gangster intruders. Israel is not unique. America had its Constitution and asperations. Like something new that has to be said is lost.

Israelis were born there. They won't pack up. They have the whole might of the American military machine at their command. (what about the USS Liberty?) Compromise is always possible and it's called politics.
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First Virginian,

USA 12/01/2009 23:44:11
#25 Horrible Cankers

Quote:

"Human Rights Watch has called on Israel to stop using white phosphorus...The US-based group said...the use of the chemical, which can burn away human flesh to the bone."

Answer:

The Human Rights Watch organization supports legislation for abortions of unborn babies.

Why don't they crusade for the innocent unborn human beings that are being killed before complaining about Israel's use of white phosphorus?

HRW thinks that it is worse to use a chemical that can burn the human skin rather than a chemical that can kill a baby in its mother's womb.

How can a well-informed person believe the nonsense that the agitators of the HRW continually spout?

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First Virginian,

USA 13/01/2009 00:17:31
Quote:

"US refused to support Iran attack"

Answer:

Good for President Bush! The sooner the US starts minding its own business the better.

#36 Carolyn 1

"And it [every country having nuclear weapons] will be Europe's problem to deal with."

It is past time that Europe start pulling together to deal with their own security.

What does the US have to do with NATO? Why does the US need to be in the useless UN?

These "entangling alliances" have never done one good thing for the prosperity and security of the US.

It is time to take ALL foreign nations off the welfare rolls of the American taxpayers.

If Israel wants to take care of Iran then they should go ahead, but the US should not be involved in the action in any way.

US politicians need to start thinking first and only of the security and well-being of the United States...that's what they are PAID to do.

Let Hillary Clinton stay home and keep her nose out of any peace-keeping efforts and the countries involved will work things out.

Russia and Europe are patching up their gas problem without the US putting in our two cents, so we know it can be done.

Perhaps there is a glimmer at the end of the tunnel when the USA will refuse to be either the international milkcow or the policeman of the world.
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Carolyn 1,

13/01/2009 00:45:19
Virginian, I think you have fallen for the propaganda version.
The phosphorus,as is being used currently, is used as a SMOKE SHIELD> not as a weapon. phosphorous is a chemical that is everywhere, I've seen it floating in the harbor here at night and its quite beautiful to see, and suffice to say, I didn't die or get burned to the bone. It's used to light enemy positions at night not as a weapon, and is allowed under the Geneva Convention.

It's my opinion that within a few years after US returned home, and if we stayed home, Europe would be under Russian and Chinese government, the Middle East would be a war zone, and Africa would be starving to death.
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Cabe,

13/01/2009 01:45:47
#40 Carolyn
"phosphorous is a chemical that is everywhere, I've seen it floating in the harbor here at night and its quite beautiful to see"
The phosphorous that you see floating in the harbor is rather different from the phosphorous that is used in bombs Carolyn. It's now fairly common knowledge that white phosphorous can cause cancer and birth deformities but of course that doesn't concern you as long as it doesn't happen to Jewish kids right?

"Did US Army Cause Iraq Birth Defects
Hikmat Tawfeeq, deputy chairman of the Fallujah-based human rights group Alakhiyar said: "We have around 200 cases of deformities recorded by our society. Most of these cases are birth deformities which have arisen after the bombing of Fallujah."

Campaigners say officials are reluctant to speak out publicly, but at Fallujah's children's hospital one doctor told Sky News in the past month she has seen one or two cases of birth deformities every day.

An opthalmologist said he deals with four or five cases of newborn babies every week suffering from some form of eye deformity - and that has risen in the last two years.
At one of the cemeteries in Fallujah, undertaker Mahmoud Hummadi said he usually buries four to five bodies of newborns every day and most of them are deformed.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Sky-News-Archive/Article/20080641317448
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Carolyn 1,

13/01/2009 02:35:01
Cabe @41
For which, according to the article, there is ZERO, evidence it was caused by phosphorous.

The cold honest truth is, Iraq was starving under the brutal dictatorship of Saddam Hussein. The oil for food program was a farce that lined the pockets of greedy and corrupt but failed to feed the people.

A baby's health is directly related to the health of the mother. A mother who suffered malnourishment for years is not soon ready for childbearing. When these women build up their health and have better diets, the babies will have a better chance to be born healthy.
I am not advocating phosphorous as a weapon,or dismissing the dangers of misuse. War is hell. Tell it to the Geneva Convention.
And yes, the phosphorous when it's here in the harbor, is mesmerizing to watch at night.
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Carolyn 1,

13/01/2009 02:38:10
@42

You never know when you'll need a good lawyer.
Or a good doctor.
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Carolyn 1,

13/01/2009 02:44:36
@41
Now that I think about it, 200 babies born with birth defects in a period of three years in a country that was malnourished for many years - when you think about it, that statistic is more optimistic than one would expect given the previous conditions
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Number 6,

Germany 13/01/2009 14:33:48
Wonderful to see Gerald Kaufman lead a cross party group of MPs who demand Brown the coward openly condems Israel.

Kaufman, a prominent british jew rightly accuses Israel of disgracing the Star of David with their savagrey.

#39 Virginian,
The US will get out of the middle east only when the Saudis decide they are more trouble than they are worth.

You should leave both Japan and South Korea immediatley.You could also evacuate your troops from South America and Georgia tommorow.

As for getting out of the UN, I am amazed you have not already been expelled. Without your interference and obstruction, so much more could have been achieved around the world.

The emergence of Obama has been a god send for the US's image, with most of the world actually rooting for him to pull your country out of the appalling mire created by Bush and his cronies.

He may be the only thing between you and a tent city, that's assuming lynne/carolyne can't put you up in her trailer.

Have any prominent US jews openly condemned the Israeli tactics ?.

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Ofner,

Scotland 13/01/2009 14:36:26
A feeble attempt to make it appear that America the slave state of Israel actually could refuse an instruction from its master!
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