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Published Date: 05 September 2008
SARAH Palin was midway through her electrifying speech to the Republican convention on Wednesday night when she abruptly wandered off script.
"I love those hockey mums," she said, smiling. "You know, they say the difference between a hockey mum and a pit-bull: Lipstick."

The ad lib brought the house down, as well it might. For the party faithful it was confirmation that Mrs Palin, until a week ago almost unknown, not only shared their values but had charisma to boot.

She didn't stop there. Mentioning Barack Obama only once by name, she nevertheless tore in to the Democrats' candidate.

"Victory in Iraq is finally in sight ... he wants to forfeit. Terrorist states are seeking nuclear weapons without delay ... he wants to meet them without preconditions.

"Al-Qaeda terrorists still plot to inflict catastrophic harm on America ... he's worried that someone won't read them their rights?"

Attempting to underline a reputation for down-home values, speaking of taking power as governor of Alaska, she said: "I got rid of a few things in the governor's office that I didn't believe our citizens should have to pay for. That luxury jet was over the top. I put it on eBay. I also drive myself to work."

And with fuel prices at the top of most Americans' worry list, she was unapologetic about renewed drilling in the US.

"To confront the threat that Iran might seek to cut off nearly a fifth of world energy supplies ... or that terrorists might strike again in Saudi Arabia ... or that Venezuela might shut off its oil ... we Americans need to produce more of our own oil and gas.

And take it from a gal who knows the North Slope of Alaska: we've got lots of both."

Sarah Palin's public persona is rooted in Small Town America, a place she took time to praise by quoting president Harry Truman: "We grow good people in our small towns, with honesty, sincerity, and dignity,'" she said, then added: "I know just the kind of people that writer had in mind."

So do the Republicans: Those are the people that John McCain is now banking on to get him elected.

Small Town America seems a remote place to Europeans weaned on a diet of film and TV emanating from either coast.

Small Town America is derided by the inhabitants of New York or California as the "flyover" states because they are best observed from 40,000 feet.

For its fans, Small Town America is the heart of the country. It is the rose-tinted paintings of Norman Rockwell, neighbour helping neighbour, the farmer working hard by day and relaxing by night on his porch with family around him and Jesus at his shoulder. It is also the original article: Small towns were the first settlements, and, in the minds of millions, they resemble, more than the corrupted cities, the solid values of the first settlers.

Mrs Palin encapsulated that image brilliantly. "She did it with a forceful smile, she did it in a way that was humanising," said radio talk show host Robert Traynham. "If I'm the Obama camp, I'm thinking I've got a problem."

In a single speech, more than Mr McCain, more than Mr Obama, she has defined the coming election.

"I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a 'community organiser'" she said, with a dig at Mr Obama's previous occupation. "Except that you have actual responsibilities."

Beyond talk of the economy, of health care, Iraq or global warming, this election is now set to be a replay of the Clinton-Obama primary battle earlier this year: Mr Obama representing the city dwellers, Mr McCain – egged on by Mrs Palin – the God-fearing, duck-hunting, hard-working countryside.

Mrs Palin herself drew the line in the sand, pouncing on an unguarded Obama comment from earlier this year that small town Americans "cling" to guns and God.

"I might add that in small towns, we don't quite know what to make of a candidate who lavishes praise on working people when they are listening, and then talks about how bitterly they cling to their religion and guns when those people aren't listening," she said.

Her own persona is the perfect Republican photo-fit: Her husband rides snowmobiles, she enjoys hunting moose and church activities, has raised five children and refuses talk of abortion even when carrying a Downs syndrome child.

Mrs Palin has given what was a demoralised party a narrative they can run with: It is a narrative that says troubled times are the best times to return to the honest and simple values of hunting, fishing, hard work and Jesus.

Mrs Palin is Christian, not in the sense of having tea with the vicar, but a bible thumper. She was baptised in the same Pentecostal Assemblies of God church of which the former Attorney General, John Ashcroft, was a member. It was he who said the Iraq invasion was doing God's work.

And Mrs Palin sees the hand of the Almighty all around her, even in her desire to push a pipeline though Alaskan land now reserved as a polar bear habitat. Her job as governor, she explained, was reaching out to the people so that "We can work together to make sure God's will be done."

For the Republican top brass, a candidate who is both Small Town and Big Oil is a dream come true, ensuring funding will continue to roll in.

The first casualty in all this is Mr McCain himself: He hoped to win the election by offering himself as a social liberal to a country tired of the failures of a right-wing Bush administration.

Instead, bullied by conservatives, Mr McCain has himself swung right, coming as near as he can to agreeing that abortion should be scrapped, gay marriage banned and creationism taught in schools.

But while Republicans are invigorated by Mrs Palin, Mr McCain's task of reaching out to the middle ground just got harder.

Put on the spot, most Americans tell pollsters they support the right to abortion; and parents in most states object to the idea of teaching creationism.

Mr McCain's move to the right may leave the middle ground clear for Mr Obama.

Mr Obama has already criticised the Palin speech, for failing to mention the economy, regarded by voters as the single biggest failing of the Bush administration. Mrs Palin, and Mr McCain, will need to put flesh on the bones, struggling, as Mr Obama is, to translate soaring rhetoric into concrete ideas.

Ideology the big issue for Christian candidate delivering electoral shock

PROFILE


PEOPLE in the small Alaskan town of Wasilla remember how they got their first Christian mayor.

The traditional turning points that had decided municipal elections in the town of fewer than 7,000 people – Should we pave the dirt roads? Put in sewers? Which candidate is your hunting buddy? – seemed all but obsolete the year Sarah Palin, then 32, challenged the three-term incumbent, John C Stein.

Anti-abortion flyers circulated. Mrs Palin played up her church work and her membership in the National Rifle Association. The state Republican Party, never involved in the past because city elections are non-partisan, ran advertisements on Mrs Palin's behalf.

"Sarah comes in with all this ideological stuff, and I was like, 'Whoa'," said Mr Stein, who lost the election. "But that got her elected: abortion, gun rights, term limits and the religious born-again thing. I'm not a church-going guy and that was another issue: 'We will have our first Christian mayor'."

Shortly after becoming mayor, Mrs Palin approached the town librarian about the possibility of banning some books.

Ann Kilkenny, a Democrat who said she attended every city council meeting in Mrs Palin's first year in office, said Mrs Palin brought up the idea of banning some books at a council meeting. "They were somehow morally or socially objectionable to her," Ms Kilkenny said.

The librarian, Mary Ellen Emmons, pledged to "resist all efforts at censorship," Ms Kilkenny recalled. The mayor fired Ms Emmons shortly after taking office but rescinded the sacking after residents made a strong show of support. In 1996, Mrs Palin suggested to the local paper, the Frontiersman, that conversations about banning books were "rhetorical".

So is she doing it for the sisters?

NO

says Jacqueline Hunter, Scotsman features editor


'HOCKEY mom"? Come off it, Mrs Palin. If that description of yourself is shorthand for "average, ordinary American woman", you're doing yourself and women everywhere a disservice.

The point about Sarah Palin is that she's anything but ordinary: whatever your opinion of her policies (and I'm no trigger-happy pro-lifer who believes every tax dollar spent on public libraries is money down the pan), she is undeniably an exceptional woman. Just ask Barack Obama – no doubt still having his brow soothed by Michelle after being lined up in Mrs Palin's crosshairs on Wednesday.

So why the attempt at feminine self-deprecation? It's about as convincing as Dolly Parton's wig.

It has taken Mrs Palin less than a week in the limelight to enthral America's Republicans.

We see from her track record as a city councillor, mayor and state governor that Mrs Palin is unafraid to challenge cronyism, confront her detractors or push for reform. Having progressed in her political career with the sure-footedness of a mountain goat over 16 years, while also mothering five children, she has shown impressive determination, focus and stamina.

We're poles apart on politics, yet part of me wants to admire her for the unflinching toughness that has got her this far in a man's world; the fact that it has taken her less than a week in the limelight to electrify the US. But to be honest, were she and I ever to meet beside a hockey rink, I'd back away fast.

She's not the sort of woman many women want to befriend. And if she really wants to be vice-president of the United States, she shouldn't pretend to care what we all think of her.

YES

says Bill Jamieson, Scotsman executive editor


THANK you to all those liberals, particularly liberal feminists, who have spent the past five days trashing Sarah Palin. They have helped to make her a star.

More than any speech she could have made – and her address to the Republican convention was a corker – her detractors have defined exactly what it is that gives her so much appeal: she is not One of Them.

Her female detractors in Britain have proved her case. The United States is not the Washington elite writ large. She connects to the many millions of Americans that the BBC and the liberal press seldom trouble to reach.

Non-metropolitan, country America is a huge force. It doesn't have a problem about membership of gun clubs, or support for evangelical Christianity or family values that the elite seems often to despise. That is why she has electrified the Republican National Convention and made this presidential race even more absorbing than it already was. What a breakthrough.

She is not a senatorial retread or jargon-packed policy wonk. Best of all – and this is why we should all cheer her – she is not a lawyer. Inexperienced? Yes. But the sneering descriptions of small-town Alaskan politics have been arrogant and patronising beyond belief. And Americans, in the main, do not vote for those who sneer at them.

Family problems? The saving grace of families is that is what they are there for. Millions of women will identify with her. As for men, it is said "she appeals like a naughty librarian". The trouble with her feminist critics is that they are just librarians.

If only there were a Sarah Palin here in Britain. Who do we have? Hazel Blears. I rest my case.

IN NUMBERS

HER speech's buzzwords (or not, as the case may be) and how many times she used them:

McCain 16
Tax 13
Family 8
Oil 8
Small town 6
Terror 3
God 2
Obama 1
Woman 1

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  • Last Updated: 05 September 2008 1:55 PM
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1

Eboneesha,

05/09/2008 00:26:17
Just as many people if not more watched her speech as Obama's. Even though her teleprompter was not working I thought she delivered her speech much better!
2

Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 05/09/2008 00:42:10
Eboneesha,

Do you think torture is a good idea?

Do you think it good that the US attacked Pakistan yesterday?

Do you think it good that the US funded the Ethiopian army to take over Somalia and throw out the popular government of Somalia in 2007?

Do you think it good that US soldiers forced the popular and freely elected president of Haiti, Aristedes, to leave Haiti or else be killed?

Do you think it good that since the US invasion of Iraq 1.5 million Iraqis have died who otherwise would not have died?

Can you tell us what it was that the Afghans did to prompt a US invasion of their country?

Do you approve of the resolution passed by the US Congress yesterday that asks the President to apply sanctions on Iran?

Did you think it a good thing back in the 1990's that the US killed 1 million Iraqi children with such economic sanctions?

Do you think the DU dust that causes birth defects and deaths among the Iraqis & Afghans is a good thing for us to be putting onto the ground near their homes?

Sarah Palin answers yes to all those questions, but she gives a good speech. What priorities do you have?

If you do answer 'yes' to any of these questions, then please try to justify that answer and I will engage you.
3

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 05/09/2008 00:44:02

The 'Glitz an 'Glamour' goes on and the 'Baby' will win!

'Stand by your family'! the Americans quite rightly love it, unlike us, this seals the election.
4

Dekester,

Canada's westcoast 05/09/2008 01:01:24
Hey lefties..Face it your man stands for nothing.

Palin is a rising star in the Republican party, a real phenom.

Her speech was breathtaking. The scenes have truly un-nerved the lefties.

Osama could have picked Hilary, but he was scared of the competition, and picked twice failed Biden and a true Washington insider of some 30 years..Wow, that really is a vote for change.

He is truly a twit. I said here a month ago, that he had no chance..I was being optimistic.

He really has done nothing, really nothing..in the senate. A good speaker sure, and activist ( organiser.) sure, but what else?

Crikey, her husband is even part eskimo, and was or is a steel workers union member..Good night democrats you blew it again,because you try and appease everyone, yet want to insult Americas heartland.

Ha..Ha. Ha.

5

Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 05/09/2008 01:01:51
Chris yer an out of touch idiot who doesn't have a clue what this election is really all about. Obama didn't win and McCain isn't the "first casualty".
The Dem's pooped their pants Wednesday night by the time Sarah had finished.
6

senza nome,

05/09/2008 01:03:43
3. It seals nothing.There is a long way to go and it could all go off the rails.Never mind what she looks like ,focus on her policies which are extremely right-wing.
7

Edward,

05/09/2008 01:22:21
God help us if the Republicans win on this ticket
Dont get me wrong, I like McCain and I see nothing wrong in Women in politics as they have every equal right to be in power. But I find the choice of Sarah Palin is a mistake of gigantic proportions! I find this 'Hockey Mom' approach so nauseating. Remember the post of Vice President isnt one to be taken lightly, it is after all, as has been said, a heart beat away from being President. She has only been Governor of Alaska for a year and beore that a Mayor of some hick town with a population of 9000! so no experience what so ever. I cannot take this ticket of McCain=Palin seriously. Im sure there must be more experienced Rebublican Women in the Senate that could do the job better.
Another observation, which I found disturbing was the promotion of 'America First' placards at the Republican convention. Is this a hint of things to come if the Republicans win?
8

Scullion,

Canada 05/09/2008 01:23:31
She calls herself and McCain mavericks and are gunning for the Washington elite. Hmm, who's been running Washington for the past 8 years?
The Republican platform is much like the Bible to which they continually refer-once you really start to listen to what is being said, you realize it tends not to make any sense.
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05/09/2008 01:24:50
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05/09/2008 01:28:34
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05/09/2008 01:29:06
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somerferg,

perth 05/09/2008 01:33:48

Said it before - will say it again. I don't like or trust Obama nor am I particularly keen on McCain. It should have been Hilary and I fear the American may come to regret not choosing her.
13

Eboneesha,

05/09/2008 01:40:33
#2 Wally

Did they have microwave ovens when you were a baby?
14

Scullion,

Canada 05/09/2008 01:51:44
#9 Hmm, I think my minor in U.S. history might help me a little (major in microbiology).
While the Dems have a hair thin majority in the Senate and a slightly bigger one in the House, they are in no position to override any pocket vetoes.
What GWB doesn't like, don't get done.
15

Andrew BOD,

Aberdeen/shire 05/09/2008 01:53:58
Celebrity politics at it's worst.

Many Hilary Clinton voters will now vote for Sarah Palin. She is undoubtedly a solid politician, a strong person, and in touch with many Americans in middle America.

But her policies are poles apart from Hilary's. And that is the problem. Most people will now vote for a celebrity image, not what they actually stand for.
16

Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 05/09/2008 01:56:41
#15

Scullion, clearly your history lessons didn't sink in. Or the microbes you sniffed in class took over your brain.
Both the House and the Senate also have major elections in November. It's not just Bam versus the fighter pilot. Everything is up for grabs.
17

Scullion,

Canada 05/09/2008 02:13:41
#17 I'm not sure how you see future elections having any effect on how the country has been run for the past 8 years (2 for the present Congress).
Again, Republican thinking that makes no sense.
In any event, the whole federal system of U.S. checks and balances is designed to control the incredible power of the U.S. president. He has far more individual power than any other elected official in any true democracy (he's the only elected official that has a song dedicated to his arrival) and it is the mark of a strong president to put his/her mark on their administration. The mark for the past 8 years has been very bad.
18

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05/09/2008 02:23:05
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Helene,

Ontario, Canada 05/09/2008 02:28:34
Ah well Scullion, it makes for an interesting election coming up, unlike ours in Canada in October, the epitome of boredom. I'm quite sure the rest of the world doesn't even know that Canada almost certainly has a federal (national) election coming up and few can name the party leaders.
As for Palin, it seems a pity that Clinton did all the slogging, yet someone else, even from the other side, gets to step into the limelight.
20

Scullion,

Canada 05/09/2008 02:39:19
#19
I do grant you that distinction (but that is why wome say our parliamentary system is a better and truer form of democracy despite your founding fathers' fear of "mobocracy").
But my point was that it is the president who guides the zeitgeist of his time in office, not the Congress.
You have mentioned that I hate the U.S. on a different post. Sir/madame, that could not be further from the truth. I simply want America to again be that house on the hill that it once was and am heartsick when I see people espouse values that go directly against that lofty goal.
21

Night Worker,

St Enoch Centre 05/09/2008 02:43:36
22 Scullion

sounds like you want to clip off the usa's baws
22

Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 05/09/2008 03:09:05
Eboneesha in 14:

No, they did not have microwave ovens when I was young. not only that I met one of the men who helped to invent that device.

You've proven my point. There is no substance to your politics. you have a loyalty, but no clue what you are loyal to or to what you are opposed to.

sadly, it is all too typical in America.
23

Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 05/09/2008 03:17:35
http://www.gallup.com/poll/110017/Intense-Political-Week-Brings-Decline-Swing-Voters.aspx

here's a poll released by gallup today. It shows that many undecided voters have made up their minds since the palin selection. by a 2-1 margin they are breaking for Obama.

24

Wally,

By The Rivers Of babylon (USA) 05/09/2008 03:39:36
Wasilla, Alaska - known by state police & arrest statistics as the meth capital of Alaska.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/wasilla-the-met.html

The rural areas in America are suffering badly from economic trends. The manufacturing they used to be so good at has been shut down thanks to trade treaties and currency manipulation that the republicans support. For 300 years our rural areas were great food producers that were very price competitive in global markets. now thanks to these same trends negatively affecting manufacturing we import more food (in terms of dollars) than we export. that never happened until about 3-4 years ago. Economic despair has come to rural america. The Republicans are going to fix it by the ethanol subsidies which drive up the price of the grains that farmers grow. This causes mass hunger in poor countries around the world. It also drains the US taxpayers. Sarah palin loves that.

believe me, there is much discontent in rural america. People like sarah Palin represent a group who are deluded into supporting policies that oppress rural america, but the people are not really happy about her type of politics.
25

Let's have the truth,

Queensland 05/09/2008 04:01:56
#16

"Most people will now vote for a celebrity image"

You are right of course which is a sad indictment on the mainstream US population.

It's like a new TV advertisement influencing people to go out and buy a new product that gets forgotten after a few weeks.
26

Wally,

By The Rivers of babylon (USA) 05/09/2008 04:11:05
LHTT in 27:

I agree. our whole public discourse leading up to election is just like a series of commercials. image image image. the people can't tolerate substance any more. They've been trained to be like that. How willingly they follow.

The real decisions are made behind closed doors by private individuals we don't even know.
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Wally,

By The Rivers Of babylon (USA) 05/09/2008 04:40:51
Joe-Kerr in 29:

There was an early American leader named Samuel Johnson who in 1775 said that the last refuge for a scoundrel was patriotism. I couldn't help noticing in McCain's speech tonight that many delegates held up signs that said 'country first'. It reminded me of George washington who said that his first loyalty was to god, his second loyalty to his family, his third loyalty to his country.

I remember also that many Germans under Hitler diligently pretended that the wars that Germany started were justified because Poland was going to attack them (according to Hitler & his propaganda at least). And I draw the paralel that many Americans diligently pretend that the Muslims attacked us and thus all aggression by the US is justified.

the FBI issued a statement saying that they have no evidence against Osama bin Laden on the September 11 crimes. Yet the US has attacked under bush 4 countries, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan and Haiti since 2001. US soldiers went to the president of haiti's house and told him that they'd kill him if he did not leave haiti. that constitutes a military attack against their government. How do americans justify all this aggression? By diligently pretending.

wars, mass arrests without evidence, torture. It is all justified by diligent pretense.
29

mrd,

fairbanks 05/09/2008 04:42:38
Based on the lack of understanding I've just been reading on this string, this is going to be a very surprising election for most of you. The article points out that Europeans have been fed a skewed image of the USA. You believe you know Calif. and NYC, oh and let's not forget wash. dc. This is less than 8% of the country. How the rest of us work, nada. You have no idea what we believe in or what we hold dear. We cling to our religions and our guns, as we have been informed by the elite in the press and the alphabet TV networks. I have met and talked to Sarah on several occasions, she is a hockey mom. If you don't know what that means, go look it up. Remember what she says, not what analysts say she said. Is she an Iron Lady, no. Is she a Pres. Ron, no. Who she might be is a Theodore R. There is a joke up here about the bodies of those who opposed her in Wasilla, and lately in Anch/Juneau. They are laying all over the place. That lame ex-mayor is one of them. This is going to be fun. MRD
30

Drum Major,

Brisbane, Australia 05/09/2008 04:52:29
This is all about voting for a KING OF THE US who has all the powers of a medieval king. They all believe in the 'Devine Right of Kings'. A king who can vetoe laws passed by both houses of elected representatives and senators, and has a Cabinet of appointed not elected persons is dangerous. A Constitutional Monarchy sure feels good when compared with this. Our governments may have some no hopers but it is better than having one nutter with all the keys to the asylum. No matter who is elected the US will continue on it's introverted way thinking whatever is good for America must be good for the world.
31

chics311,

sarasota 05/09/2008 04:52:55
Wally you are such an a hole , you spout garbageyou dont make any sense .31 tells it like it is .obama is toast ,burnt toast, McCain and Palin will be in the White House.
32

R35,

Gurnee 05/09/2008 05:00:51
Scullion, you have just failed Political Science 101. The main thing the House of Representatives control is the money.All spending bills must originate in the house. The problem with the US Economy is that GWB did not veto the wild spending of the Democrat Congress. Does that sound familiar to the UK situation with Gordon Brown a menber of the left wing also.
33

Menzies,

05/09/2008 05:55:01
After 8 years of Bush, you'd think they would have learned. A once fine country now a debt-riddled mess, at war, economy sliding steadily, in debt up to their eyeballs to China and led by fools. If the Americans vote in McCain and Palin, sadly, they will get what they deserve.
34

Pender Paul,

Pender Island 05/09/2008 06:50:48
McCain and Palin are just pawns of the corporate elite. Most Americans, and indeed Canadians, Brits and other citizens of the G8 are too stupid to realize how they are being manipulated for the benefit of a small and wealthy group of business people who will make sure that things won't change--unless, of course, a profit can be made. As for Palin--just look at her--everything is done to achieve a saleable product--the hair, the glasses, the speech, etc.--Ms Robot of 2008. Amazing what a good marketing person can do. Heaven help us all!
35

Sylvia,

Edzell Woods 05/09/2008 07:06:32
For #36
Far from sad ... McCain is no Bush! Shows what you know ...absolutely nothing! The USA is deserving of the changes that McCain and Palin will bring when they win the election on November 4th. Go Mavericks!!
36

Boy Wonder,

05/09/2008 07:07:24
"Shortly after becoming mayor, Mrs Palin approached the town librarian about the possibility of banning some books."

That's all we need in charge ... book-burners! Orwell's vision of a dystopian future comes ever closer if the likes of this woman gets elected.

For the love of freedom ... vote Obama!!!

37

Wolf1957,

Normally NC, USA (Currently in Afghanistan) 05/09/2008 07:09:51
Chris Stephen is clueless on American politics.

The presence of Palin on the McCain ticket means that Obama has most likely lost any chance of carrying a Southern state and with that, the Presidency. Obama needed at least one Southern state to switch in order to have any comfort factor. Obama will now also have a tough fight in the West (except California, Oregon and possibly Washington) and in the Mid-West. He may even lose Illinois where the downstate rural voters can overwhelm his Chicago advantage if they are motivated to vote.

Keep in mind that Obama lost most of the big-state primaries to Clinton. His support is only monolithic in the media.

Nor are the "vast majority of Americans" in favor of abortion. Most responsible analysts put it at a split of 50/50. The numbers change depending upon the specific reasons for abortion (convenience, mother's health, likelyhood of infant deformity). It isn't a cut and dried issue no matter how the media portrays it.

Take a look at the county map for the last two Presidential elections and it becomes obvious how little of the USA is in the liberal left camp.

To win, McCain had to energize the conservative base. So far he's done that with the Palin selection. If Obama goes too far left to his liberal base, he loses too much of the middle. Hence his sitting the fence on issues like abortion, gay marriage, guns. McCain can win playing to his base, but Obama loses if he plays to his.

Of course with about 59 days left, anything can happen. The numbers will shake out a bit more after the debates.
38

Dancer,

Edinburgh 05/09/2008 07:39:08
Is it just me or does this woman look totally insane? Look at her eyes she looks ready to eat any one who disagrees with her. If she gets any where near power her comments on the Washington Media sound like she would kill free speech. Beware the Devil in disguise.
39

Wolf1957,

Normally NC, USA (Currently in Afghanistan) 05/09/2008 07:49:34
Palin has an 80% approval rating in her state. It is a rare politician who can claim that level of support in any capacity (mayor, legislator, governor, or president).

Obama barely holds a 55% approval rating as the junior senator for Illinois and I've seen polls that put him below 50%.

Those numbers speak volumes.
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Boab,

05/09/2008 08:02:52
#39 Boy Wonder: talking of book-burning - this is off topic but hopefully a cause of concern:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2008/sep/04/gcses.english?gusrc=rss&feed=networkfront
41

sonofhamish,

edinburgh 05/09/2008 08:03:03
#42, she is a card carrying NRA member, and votes to prop up big oil which is by far the biggest employer in the state, and lets not forget that the state hands out oil 'bribe' money every year to its residents.

Wonder why she has an 80% approval rate.
42

Roy Stewart, Phx.AZ.USA,

Write in Sarah Palin for President 05/09/2008 08:05:32
Write in Sarah Palin for President!
Senators Clinton, Obama, and McCain represent 'The Beltway Aristocracy'!
Check the perks they vote for themselves!
Whereas Gov. Palin put the 'Gov. Jet' on eBay . . .
and, as Jay Leno mentioned on his show tonight . . . 'The jet was purchased by Cindy and John McCain!'
43

wnaegele,

Albuquerque 05/09/2008 08:21:14
Journalists, whether home-grown or foreign, believe in this myth that the American population is center-left. Fact is [as determined my numerous surveys] it is center-right. A Republican running to the center-left is headed for sure defeat...
44

Alec in Chicago,

Chicago 05/09/2008 08:32:24
Sarah Palin: not a reformer, not an outsider, not honest. but petty, short-tempered, vindictive.

http://www.consortiumnews.com

Articles on abuse of power issues, as well as misusing public office - for campaigning, carrying out a vendetta against her brother-in-law, lying about her support for the 'bridge to nowhere,' rolling in pork [earmarks: funding provisions for special projects inserted into spending bills by one or a few sponsors, often without perusal by other Congress critters]. I believe she is currently being investigated in Alaska.

Washington outsider? Nonsense! Her tax-payer excursions to D.C. are infamous in Alaska. $26 million in earmarks for tiny Wasilla (pop. 6700).

Why are these 'Christians' so god-fearing? Probably because they are so immoral and unethical. Good people - (not perfect, just good) - who are Christians are not supposed to fear god. These people don't follow Jesus' teachings, though. They are stuck in the Old Testament: fear, anger, judgmentalism, harsh control of others, warring on enemies for religious differences (however they try to dress it up or disguise it)... Hypocrisy.

Regarding abortion: she is in the minority. The majority of Americans at least grudgingly approve of abortions in some circumstances, such as incest or rape. Palin is opposed even to these exceptions.

She is also for teaching creationism in public schools. [Just in case, US: 'public' = government-funded/tax-supported.] Even the Catholic Church got beyond creationism long ago.

Peruse the above site: great stuff. (Not just on Palin!)
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Spoot,

Third rock pool on the left 05/09/2008 08:37:19
Oh dear, 19 invasions since the end of World War II and now they've invaded our messageboards. Perhaps there should be a rule to the effect that US residents may not contribute to non-US messageboards unless they hold a passport - that would cut it down to size.
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Gulliver,

Harare 05/09/2008 08:49:57
Book-banning.... she sounds like the type that would have gone out to burn the Tyndale Bibles and burn on a stake anyone who preached different from the "church fathers". No different from the Muslim extremists or extremists of any other kind..

Christians would learn a lot about tolerance from the parable of the prodigal son- allow people with different beliefs to venture out on their own. If you are right they'll always come back to you humbled and a lot wiser.

Win people through persuation and not access denial or force.
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Gazzza,

Berkshire, England, United Kingdom 05/09/2008 09:04:37
A truly marvellous speach and most gratifying to see that America has at least one Lady in the image of our own most wonderful Maggie Thatcher.
I for one hope to see Mr. McCain elected to the white house.
Under Obama the Democrats have moved much much too far to the left and at a time when Britain has temporarily lost its way under a misfit government on its way to oblivion we need a strong America who will take no nonsense from those countries who pose a threat to our Western ways of life.
America, in order to recover from the subprime problems may need to take an insular approach but as a country under a new Republican regime she will again reign supreme. At times such as these your own Country and the people of your country must come first. Something that the Prime Minister of the UK and the leaders of the EEC should take heed of.
Good luck to Sarah Palin and to John McCain.
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LAM,

Edinburgh 05/09/2008 09:07:21
This up and coming election has certainly become more interesting since Palin stepped into the picture. At first I thought " Oh what has McCain done" but as time goes on I truly believe he knew exactly what he was doing and why. Palin is not what we have all grown to envision an American politician to be... she is a breath of fresh air. She will get the vote from the people that want someone real.. someone down to earth.. and who cares about all of the same issues and concerns that most average families have. She doesn't strike me like she would ever be a fence sitter where as sadly I believe Obama will be.. he will be minipulated and although probably a good person do not think he has the strenght to carry out that job properly. I wonder if he would be so popular and have as many big named backers if he was white... think we all know the answer to that.
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Malc.F,

france 05/09/2008 09:15:03
Piper,Willow,Bristol,Track and Trig.Yes these are the strange names chosen for her children by a woman who may become the second if not the first most powerful person in the world. They sound more like North Sea oil platforms to me,well there's a coincidence.
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Malc.F,

france 05/09/2008 09:22:03
I have just read the post by LAM and am astonished that anyone can think that she is real and down to earth.
She sacks people who annoy her,she is a member of the awful NRA,she does not believe that her fellow women have the right to decide if they want to continue with an unwanted pregnancy even if they have been raped.
As for your remark about Obama not having big name backers if he was white,go and crawl back under the rock you came from.
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Rico Ganz,

gaurding the books 05/09/2008 09:24:31
Book banning, country first, fear of the alien,threats to those in power, all we need now is some broken glass and off we go again.
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Malc.F,

france 05/09/2008 09:29:12
I have just read the post by LAM and am astonished that anyone can think that she is real and down to earth.
She sacks people who annoy her,she is a member of the awful NRA,she does not believe that her fellow women have the right to decide if they want to continue with an unwanted pregnancy even if they have been raped.
As for your remark about Obama not having big name backers if he was white,go and crawl back under the rock you came from.
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Josiecamp,

San Francisco 05/09/2008 09:30:05
When the chickens come home to roost Ms Palin will have egg all over her face. Reading a prepared speech that took four days to craft is a lot different from debating Joe Biden..and of course she will have to confront her Alaskan disasters too. Conventions are theater and she did a good job of acting.
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Let's have the truth,

Queensland 05/09/2008 09:39:35
#42

"Palin has an 80% approval rating in her state".

With the sparse population there that 80% represents her own 5 kids, husband and future son-in-law oh, and maybe she's counting the one in the oven.
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Josiecamp,

San Francisco 05/09/2008 09:42:38
When she has to explain her support for the "Bridge to Nowhere" and her strip mall kick backs and her 38% approval rating as Governor..and..and.. come November the world will ask whatever happened to that hockey mum...
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Red Tower,

Dunoon 05/09/2008 09:43:25
I look forward to the debates between Palin and Biden. She'll need more than jokes about Pit Bulls.
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FreeLand,

A place full of sunshine 05/09/2008 09:52:52
"America - The rest of the world are heartily sick and tired of your soap opera politics, your introversion, aggression, oil addiction and your plain ignorance of international affairs. Voting for McCain/Palin will ensure that you will continue to be the bloated, lumbering hate figure you deserve to be."

Ah yes, contempt. It's a European's substitute for achievement.
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Pedant,

05/09/2008 09:55:37
#42 "Palin has an 80% approval rating in her state."
Herr Hitler had a very high approval rating too, and that didn't turn out well.
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Black Five,

edinburgh 05/09/2008 10:03:39
What an abomnibal woman this is.She looks like something out the sixties with these old fashioned glasses,a jacket that the Supremes wore and a haircut like the Ronnettes.What a schemie ,common as muck type.How the American people would want to vote for the likes of that would beggar believe.As for the sreeching voice......that would scare Bin Laden.Terrible woman.
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Norman C.,

London 05/09/2008 10:06:03
Better America than Russia.

And, by the way, where ARE the mass demos against the Russian invasion of Georgia? Or have I missed them?
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57Nomad,

california 05/09/2008 10:23:20
Chris Stephens never fails to amaze me with his utter non-comprehension of the country he writes about. Does he write about other countries? I don't know. But his writing about America is seen through a lens all his own. If Chris Stephens told me that the sun was up at noon I'd step outdoors to check. To wit:

"Instead, bullied by conservatives, Mr McCain has himself swung right, coming as near as he can to agreeing that abortion should be scrapped, gay marriage banned and creationism taught in schools."

Did you get that? "bullied by conservatives." How wrong is it possible to be. My dear Chris, you are talking about a US Navy fighter pilot. It is the most dangerous job there is even in peace time. John McCain can land a fighter on the deck of an aircraft carrier at night time and not break a sweat. You, Chris, even if you were just a passenger, would have to change underwear.

Then there is this. After McCain was captured, he was bayoneted in the thigh and groin. He was given grossly inadequate medical care, and as soon as he was well enough to get dragged, they dragged him from his cell every day and tortured him.

The North Vietnamese then found out that he was the son of the Fleet Commander, Admiral McCain. Seeing a propaganda coup, they brought him into a tastefully appointed room with comfortable furniture and plates of food. He was told that he could be released immediately after fulfilling some trifling propaganda work. He had been in prison for seven months. He informed his captors that the way it was done was that the guy who had been there longest was the one that going home first and it wasn't him. He refused to leave for that reason and spent an additional four years in a cell that was 6' by 4 feet. He was brutally tortured on a regular basis. One of the methods was to tie his hands behind his back and then hoist him off the ground by his wrists. Try that on out for size, Chris. I don't believe you could take it for one second, let alone f
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Alec in Chicago,

Chicago 05/09/2008 10:25:36
55 bogman

Did you miss the real news?

We elected Al Gore in 2000, despite widespread vote-tampering and Ralph Nader. The Supreme court crowned the pretender Bush. Google it, if you don't believe me.

Justice Sandra Day O'Connor was anxious to retire - but only if a Republican were in the White House. So she put in with the 4 radical right-wingers and tipped the vote to stop the full counting of Florida votes. She has publicly admitted her partisan political motive. Worse, she isn't sorry - despite 9/11, despite Afghanistan, despite Iraq....

A consortium of journalists counted them later: Al Gore won the popular vote. How many "news" outlets announced it? When confronted later, the typical excuse was that they did not want to cast doubt on Bush's "legitimacy"!

There were actually reports of voting machines showing negative numbers - for Democrats, of course - or machines counting backwards. (How can you have a negative tally? Isn't 0 the fewest votes a candidate can receive?)

Many of us are working hard to pressure legislators to outlaw "black-box voting." We are demanding paper receipts. You can't have a recount without a paper trail. The Republicans are fighting it. I wonder why... Hint: a major manufacturer of voting machines: Diebold. (If a small and powerless country were setting up voting procedures like these, the UN would be screaming bloody murder, and they would probably end up with UN inspectors over-seeing the vote.)

If you have some useful suggestions, many of us would love to hear them.
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57Nomad,

05/09/2008 10:28:37
#65 contd.

Try that one on for size, Chris. I don't believe you could take it for one second, let alone five years.

And now you say that John McCain got 'bullied' by conservatives. This was a guy who had be tortured for five years after he could have just walked out the front door. The guys who were torturing him couldn't bully him. Several of his guards at the Hanoi Hilton mention John McCain's name with reverence.

And yet you say some unnamed 'conservatives' bullied him. Chris, either give us the names of the men that 'bullied' John McCain or issue a retraction and an apology. Maybe it's just envy. Chris Stephen, John McCain is something you will never be. He's a man. You are a weasel.
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Alec in Chicago,

Chicago 05/09/2008 10:29:45
McCain certainly was brought to heel. He was subjected to the Rove smear machine in 2000. From then on, he has toed the neocon line. His political career depended on it. Now he is being rewarded.
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57Nomad,

05/09/2008 10:39:15
#66 A n C

A n C said:


"So she put in with the 4 radical right-wingers and tipped the vote to stop the full counting of Florida votes."

Sorry Al, you've got it exactly backwards. The Democrats demanded that the votes be recounted in only those precincts they considered favorable to them. It was the Democrats that fought viciously to keep every vote from being counted. The Supreme Court quite correctly said something like, and I'm paraphrasing here, "Hey, looky here, if your gonna recount the votes, you gotta recount ALL the votes, not just the ones where you think you are favored"

Look it up. The state of Florida allowed 3 recounts all monitored by representatives from both parties and members of the press. Gore lost all three times. That was eight years ago. Gore was a loser then, he's a loser now, he's just a fatter loser.
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seillean a mhirdenibha,

Williamsburg 05/09/2008 10:43:47
#48
Invasion? The article is about US politics with many UK opinions being given--and you expect no response from US citizens? Y'all certainly aren't shy with your opinions about the US.
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bunker,

05/09/2008 10:47:57
Its a frightening prospect that the people of a nation so powerful are so gullable and sucked in by so called celebs, Insulated and wrapped up within there own borders, not realising how much damage they are doing to the world at large through policies where they think they always know better how to run the planet.

How many conflicts have been solved by force? how many conflicts have the USA solved since 1945? How was the Northern Ireland issue solved? by people talking to each other after years of fighting.

Oil Oil Oil start developing sustainable clean alternatives to this poison like nitrogen so that there is no threat of ransom from the oil producing countries that the USA is so paranoid about

It will take more than God to sort out whats left of this world if that gun tootin party gets in again.
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57Nomad,

california 05/09/2008 10:48:30
#66 Alex

alex said:

"If you have some useful suggestions, many of us would love to hear them"

Alex, do you really think that paper ballots are the answer? Its much easier to manipulate paper ballots than electronic ones. Think Cook County, 1960. Do a little research and find out how Richard Daley stuffed the ballot boxes (with paper ballots, of course) and stole the election for JFK.

However, I agree with you that paper ballots are more comforting, they are for me anyway and I prefer them to the electronic voting machines. I think it wouldn't be a bad idea on election day to have a few hundred extra machines and then randomly remove the in-place machines and replace them with ones that have been vetted by experts from both parties. Then take the machines that were replaced and examine them with the same rigor. I'd feel better.
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Alec in Chicago,

Chicago 05/09/2008 10:48:32
Yeah, the Supreme Court was so interested in counting all the votes - why they stopped the partial recount when it looked as though Bush might lose.

If they had honestly wanted a statewide recount, it would have been ordered.

The loser was Bush - and the entire US.

Google Sandra Day O'Connor 200 election. Want to call her a liar?
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57Nomad,

california 05/09/2008 10:55:38
# 71 bunker

Bunker said:

"Oil Oil Oil start developing sustainable clean alternatives to this poison like nitrogen.

Bunker, I can't tell from the above sentence if you are saying that nitrogen is the answer to the problem or are you saying that nitrogen is a poison? Or, did you mean hydrogen and wrote nitrogen by mistake. Its no sin, I hope, because I do stuff like that all the time. Can you clarify that please?
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Iain Percival,

Den Haag 05/09/2008 11:00:12
I have just come back from a couple of week's business in the US with a feeling we are (collectively) in deep sh**! This crowd will pull it off and cheer lead an Israeli strike on Iran's nuclear facilities, stick two fingers up Putin's nose and generally take us all closer to Armageddon (presume all the God fearing, Christian right, folksie people know what that is?).
The only difference between hockey moms and pitbulls is that the latter don't fall in love with assault rifles. This gal knows what she is talking about when she says the Alaskan north slope has "plenty" of oil & gas. I don't think so. Being Governor of the State of Alaska does not automatically give you great insight into matters geological or petroleum engineering. The north slope reserves can only make a small contribution to feeding the voracious appetite of US consumers.
God bless you, God bless America, God help the rest of us.
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57Nomad,

california 05/09/2008 11:05:06
#73 alec

alec said:

"Yeah, the Supreme Court was so interested in counting all the votes - why they stopped the partial recount when it looked as though Bush might lose."

You are contradicting yourself. In post #66 you say, "So she put in with the 4 radical right-wingers and tipped the vote to stop the full counting of Florida votes."

Then you say: "Yeah, the Supreme Court was so interested in counting all the votes - why they stopped the partial recount when it looked as though Bush might lose."

You see, its that partial recount thing directly contradicts your stated desire for a full recount. Which is you want, a partial recount or a full recount. Your posts are at odds with themselves. As far as the recounts conducted after the election you are completely wrong. There were 3 recounts all monitored by the press and contrary to your statement George Bush won all three. Look it up.

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Alec in Chicago,

Chicago 05/09/2008 11:10:00
Wrong again.

It was easy in those day to stuff ballot boxes in Chicago. (You left out the joke that Chicago Democrats are so patriotic that they not even death can stop them from voting. Or didn't you know that one?)

There's a lot more oversight here now.

Diebold won't let anyone examine their software. They don't want it seen how they get their machines to count backwards. Remove machines at random and examine them? But Diebold won't have it. And election day is too late: it takes longer than that to examine software.

If something were found wrong, we wouldn't be told, anyway - just like the unofficial state-wide recount. How many Americans even know there was such a thing?

The entire system is riddled with fraud. How many people really trust their Congress critters? When it comes to voting, they often break promises.

Obama, the anti-war candidate: never met a war-funding bill he didn't like.

McCain, the (former) maverick: in near-perfect lock-step with the neocons.

There are no longer two separate and independent parties in the US. They are two versions of the same party. It is neither Republican nor Democratic. The Republican party is no longer truly conservative: they have jettisoned conservative values. The Democratic party is no longer liberal: they have jettisoned liberal values.

There was a time when I could understand Republicans or Democrats. No longer. The RNC and the DNC both uphold un-American "values." The republic is very nearly dead, and too many Americans are busy pointing their fingers at "the other guy." The bottom line is, both parties support the US as empire - and no patriotic American should embrace either party. (Too few individuals of either party are excepted from that generalization.)

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Alec in Chicago,

Chicago 05/09/2008 11:12:10
Yes, a slip: O'Connor put in with the others to stop completion of the re-count that was in progress. They were afraid that Bush might lose.

Did you do that search yet?
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Alec in Chicago,

Chicago 05/09/2008 11:16:07
Note that full counting is not meant to mean full re-count. Just a slppy phrasing, no more.

If the Supreme Court thought there ought to have been a state-wide re-count, they could have ordered it. "Sorry, but a parial re-count doesn't make sense. We'll only allow a full re-count." They said that was the way to go - but allowed neither.

Why don't you read O'Connor's description of what went on? Pure partisanship. The courts are as corrupted as the other branches of the government.
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Miss H,

05/09/2008 11:20:40
I think their strategy is to use her to attack Obama in the hopes that he will respond and look bad attacking this totally down home, normal, gun toting, creationist soccer mom. To us this she is completely laughable at best, pretty scarey at worst, but it will go down well with some people in the States obviously otherwise they would not be using her.

If Obama has any sense he will completely ignore her.

Hillary should be the one to comment if comment requires to be made which I don't think it necessarily does.
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Alec in Chicago,

Chicago 05/09/2008 11:27:18
Sorry, my posts are not at odds with themselves. I never said which I wanted.

The partial re-count was stopped. Period. It was not replaced with a full re-count. The Supreme Court allowed neither.

"Full re-count" pertains to all the ballots that were in the areas disputed, including hanging chads, etc.

"State-wide re-count embraces the whole state.

I didn't make up the terminology.

So now that you've gotten the tired old man bogged down by your silliness, why don't you address the issue? They stopped the re-count when it looked dicey for Bush. That's O'Connor's version. Argue it out with her.

My other point was that Gore won the popular vote in Florida - despite chicanery by the Republicans and votes cast for Nader. It was reported. That's the main story. Very few Americans ever heard about it.

The reason "news" agencies gave for not reporting it is that they didn't want to cast doubt on Bush's legitimacy - as though he had any. That was the main point. But Nomad wants to obscure it by quibbling over "full re-count" and "state-wide" re-count. It's an old tactic, and it's really worn thin.

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Alec in Chicago,

Chicago 05/09/2008 11:31:04
A typo: Gore's win was NOT repoted.
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buccleuch,

Glasgow 05/09/2008 11:54:31
Palin believes in teaching creationism in schools.
That is, that the Earth is 6,000 years old and that humans and dinosaurs were hanging out together.

This AUTOMATICALLY disqualifies her for such an important position.
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Rif,

Wales 05/09/2008 12:06:47
Sarah Palin is enormously popular in Alaska; in every way she’s like the most popular girl in middle school. Even men who think she is a poor choice and won't vote for her can't quit smiling when talking about her because she is a "babe".

It is astonishing and almost scary how well she can keep a secret. She kept her most recent pregnancy a secret from her children and parents for seven months.

She is "pro-life". She recently gave birth to a Down's syndrome baby. There is no cover-up involved, here; Trig is her baby.

She is energetic and hardworking. She regularly worked out at the gym.

She is savvy. She doesn't take positions; she just "puts things out there" and if they prove to be popular, then she takes credit.

Her husband works a union job on the North Slope for BP and is a champion snowmobile racer. Todd Palin’s kind of job is highly sought-after because of the schedule and high pay. He's NOT a Republican; in fact, he's a member of the Alaska Nationalist Party - no kidding, it exists! He arranges his work schedule so he can fish for salmon in Bristol Bay for a month or
so in summer, but by no stretch of the imagination is fishing their major source of income. Nor has her life-style ever been anything like that of native Alaskans.

Sarah and her whole family are avid hunters.

She's smart.

Her experience is as mayor of a city with a population of about 5,000 (at the time), and less than 2 years as governor of a state with about 670,000 residents.

During her mayoral administration most of the actual work of running this small city was turned over to an administrator. She had been pushed to hire this administrator by party power-brokers after she had
gotten herself into some trouble over precipitous firings which had given rise to a recall campaign.

Sarah campaigned in Wasilla as a “fiscal conservative”. During her 6 years as Mayor, she increased general government expenditures by over
33%. During those same 6 years the am
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Rif,

05/09/2008 12:09:32
To continue:

Sarah campaigned in Wasilla as a “fiscal conservative”. During her 6
years as Mayor, she increased general government expenditures by over
33%. During those same 6 years the amount of taxes collected by the
City increased by 38%. This was during a period of low inflation
(1996-2002). She reduced progressive property taxes and increased a
regressive sales tax which taxed even food. The tax cuts that she
promoted benefited large corporate property owners way more than they
benefited residents.

The huge increases in tax revenues during her mayoral administration
weren’t enough to fund everything on her wish list though, borrowed
money was needed, too. She inherited a city with zero debt, but left it
with indebtedness of over $22 million. What did Mayor Palin encourage
the voters to borrow money for? Was it the infrastructure that she said
she supported? The sewage treatment plant that the city lacked? or a
new library? No. $1m for a park. $15m-plus for construction of a
multi-use sports complex which she rushed through to build on a piece
of property that the City didn’t even have clear title to, that was
still in litigation 7 yrs later--to the delight of the lawyers
involved! The sports complex itself is a nice addition to the
community but a huge money pit, not the profit-generator she claimed it
would be. She also supported bonds for $5.5m for road projects that
could have been done in 5-7 yrs without any borrowing.

While Mayor, City Hall was extensively remodeled and her office
redecorated more than once.

These are small numbers, but Wasilla is a very small city.

As an oil producer, the high price of oil has created a budget surplus
in Alaska. Rather than invest this surplus in technology that will
make us energy independent and increase efficiency, as Governor she
proposed distribution of this surplus to every individual in the state.

In this time of record state revenues and budget surpluses, she
recomm
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Rif,

Wales 05/09/2008 12:11:05
In this time of record state revenues and budget surpluses, she
recommended that the state borrow/bond for road projects, even while
she proposed distribution of surplus state revenues: spend today's
surplus, borrow for needs.

She’s not very tolerant of divergent opinions or open to outside ideas
or compromise. As Mayor, she fought ideas that weren’t generated by
her or her staff. Ideas weren’t evaluated on their merits, but on the
basis of who proposed them.

While Sarah was Mayor of Wasilla she tried to fire our highly respected
City Librarian because the Librarian refused to consider removing from
the library some books that Sarah wanted removed. City residents
rallied to the defense of the City Librarian and against Palin's
attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin backed down and withdrew
her termination letter. People who fought her attempt to oust the
Librarian are on her enemies list to this day.

Sarah complained about the “old boy’s club” when she first ran for
Mayor, so what did she bring Wasilla? A new set of "old boys". Palin
fired most of the experienced staff she inherited. At the City and as
Governor she hired or elevated new, inexperienced, obscure people,
creating a staff totally dependent on her for their jobs and eternally
grateful and fiercely loyal--loyal to the point of abusing their power
to further her personal agenda, as she has acknowledged happened in the
case of pressuring the State’s top cop (see below).

As Mayor, Sarah fired Wasilla’s Police Chief because he “intimidated”
her, she told the press. As Governor, her recent firing of Alaska's top
cop has the ring of familiarity about it. He served at her pleasure
and she had every legal right to fire him, but it's pretty clear that
an important factor in her decision to fire him was because he wouldn't
fire her sister's ex-husband, a State Trooper. Under investigation
for abuse of power, she has had to admit that more than 2 dozen
contacts were mad
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Rif,

Wales 05/09/2008 12:12:40
Under investigation
for abuse of power, she has had to admit that more than 2 dozen
contacts were made between her staff and family to the person that she
later fired, pressuring him to fire her ex-brother-in-law. She tried to
replace the man she fired with a man who she knew had been reprimanded
for sexual harassment; when this caused a public furor, she withdrew
her support.

She has bitten the hand of every person who extended theirs to her in
help. The City Council person who personally escorted her around town
introducing her to voters when she first ran for Wasilla City Council
became one of her first targets when she was later elected Mayor. She
abruptly fired her loyal City Administrator; even people who didn’t
like the guy were stunned by this ruthlessness.

Fear of retribution has kept all of these people from saying anything
publicly about her.

When then-Governor Murkowski was handing out political plums, Sarah got
the best, Chair of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission: one
of the few jobs not in Juneau and one of the best paid. She had no
background in oil & gas issues. Within months of scoring this great
job which paid $122,400/yr, she was complaining in the press about the
high salary. I was told that she hated that job: the commute, the
structured hours, the work. Sarah became aware that a member of this
Commission (who was also the State Chair of the Republican Party)
engaged in unethical behavior on the job. In a gutsy move which some
undoubtedly cautioned her could be political suicide, Sarah solved all
her problems in one fell swoop: got out of the job she hated and
garnered gobs of media attention as the patron saint of ethics and as a
gutsy fighter against the “old boys’ club” when she dramatically quit,
exposing this man’s ethics violations (for which he was fined).

As Mayor, she had her hand stuck out as far as anyone for pork from
Senator Ted Stevens. Lately, she has castigated his pork-barr
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LAM,

Edinburgh 05/09/2008 12:12:47
#56 your remark made me laugh.. Sure Palin isn't perfect and has obviously made mistakes... thats something again that makes her human. I do not necessarily agree with everything she does. But she certainly cares about family.She appears to have gotten into politics to be able to make a difference hopefully for the better. May not be your idea of better or mine in some cases but you can't fault her drive. Her children's unusal names..doesn't determine whether she is a good candidate, person or otherwise. That is really a mute point. And funny you think my remark about Obama's backers being offensive... guess what... that is reality I am am sure I am not the only person to think that exact same thing. And that certainly does not make me a racist if thats what your are thinking..just a realist. You can't be an ostrich and stick your head in the ground and pretend this isn't on peoples minds. Yes it is a shame we have to think that but as so many are pushing for the first black American persident... my thoughts are what does his colour matter is he the right person for the job and to heck with the colour..But we all know that to so many it isn't necessarily about him being the right person... it is about ANOTHER First and breaking down the barriers. Is it the person we are seeing and hearing and evaluating or is it what he represents. Yes more barriers do need to be broken down if this was a man with more experience and skills behind him... this question would not have any merit as it stands it does. You have to understand what the people are voting for: a First or a good persident.
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Rif,

Wales 05/09/2008 12:14:06
As Mayor, she had her hand stuck out as far as anyone for pork from
Senator Ted Stevens. Lately, she has castigated his pork-barrel
politics and publicly humiliated him. She only opposed the “bridge to
nowhere” after it became clear that it would be unwise not to.

As Governor, she gave the Legislature no direction and budget
guidelines, then made a big grandstand display of line-item vetoing
projects, calling them pork. Public outcry and further legislative
action restored most of these projects--which had been vetoed simply
because she was not aware of their importance--but with the unobservant
she had gained a reputation as “anti-pork”.

She is solidly Republican: no political maverick. The State party
leaders hate her because she has bit them in the back and humiliated
them. Other members of the party object to her self-description as a
fiscal conservative.

Around Wasilla there are people who went to high school with Sarah.
They call her “Sarah Barracuda” because of her unbridled ambition and
predatory ruthlessness. Before she became so powerful, very ugly
stories circulated around town about shenanigans she pulled to be made
point guard on the high school basketball team. When Sarah's
mother-in-law, a highly respected member of the community and
experienced manager, ran for Mayor, Sarah refused to endorse her.

As Governor, she stepped outside of the box and put together of package
of legislation known as “AGIA” that forced the oil companies to march
to the beat of her drum.

Like most Alaskans, she favors drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife
Refuge. She has questioned if the loss of sea ice is linked to
global warming. She campaigned “as a private citizen” against a state
initiaitive that would have either a) protected salmon streams from
pollution from mines, or b) tied up in the courts all mining in the
state (depending on who you listen to). She has pushed the State’s
lawsuit against the Dept. of the Interior’s d
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Rif,

Wales 05/09/2008 12:15:16
Concluding:

She has pushed the State’s
lawsuit against the Dept. of the Interior’s decision to list polar
bears as threatened species.

McCain is the oldest person to ever run for President; Sarah will be a
heartbeat away from being President.

There has to be literally millions of Americans who are more
knowledgeable and experienced than she.

However, there’s a lot of people who have underestimated her and are
regretting it.
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57Nomad,

california 05/09/2008 12:31:50
#77

Diebold also builds a significant fraction of the ATM machines used around the country. Have you ever heard of one being cracked? The days are not long past when paper ballots could stuffed. It's just as easy today as it was in 1960. Demonizing Diebold is just another boogie man to slough off Gore's defeat.
88

Jardine,

05/09/2008 12:45:08
"If only there were a Sarah Palin here in Britain. Who do we have? Hazel Blears. I rest my case."

Gushing, gushing.

It seems as if a Hootsman hack must obey HMV on matters American as well as British ...
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Tina 2,

Sag Harbor, USA 05/09/2008 13:15:45
Palin did a great job of addressing the children of this country. Children who need lots of reassurance that the bogey man won't bite them when they are tucked into bed at night.

Obama did a great job of addressing the adults in the room. His speech was thoughtful, complex and had subtlety - characteristics that tend to go over the heads of frightened children.

It may be time for the adults to start running the country, but don't be surprised if the children get another four years to continue to screw things up for the rest of us.
90

SouthernGent,

05/09/2008 13:22:54
#53
The poster in 51 is more than likely correct in his assumption about race. Roughly 98% of blacks in the US voted for Obama, with many stating the reason as race. In the past, blacks associated and voted for the Clintons. Had Obama been white, the odds were slim that he would have garnered many votes at all, as the majority of blacks would more than likely have voted for Hillary. In that scenario, Hillary would be the current Democratic party nominee - not Obama.
91

SouthernGent,

05/09/2008 13:29:26
#95
You appear to be one of the reasons I vote against the democrats. Don't be condescending and debate the issues, and see how far you get.
92

Aearnur,

05/09/2008 13:37:26
Bush with (fillin the blanks). Just great... :-(
93

we the people,

05/09/2008 13:38:09
palin comes across to me as totally odious - reminds me of the evil teacher from donny darko who drills the dance troupe and wants books banned from the curriculum. if she does become prez i guess she'll be the homespun puppet made to dance by republican bosses.
the u.s is a one - party system, with each representing capital and the business interests.but there will still be an appreciable benefit to the lives of americans and those of us who have to live in the client states and long shadow of the superpower if obama/biden are elected.the republicans work shamelessly for the richest 2% of americans,enact a repugnant nationalism (which will propel them to further bloodshed abroad)and pursue an obscurantist religious agenda.i just hope their ideological organs in the media fail to pull the wool over ordinary americans' eyes. they deserve far better.
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tommy,

belfast uk 05/09/2008 13:43:32
to 94
Quote..."If only there were a Sarah Palin here in Britain. Who do we have? Hazel Blears. I rest my case."
---Unquote
On the button 94

Sarah Palin had no business speaking with pride in her country and the love she has for it.
We should send over some of the obsequious,self loathing toads from the uk to show her the way,-you know the cretins who dont even know or refuse to recognise the crisis they have put this once great country under,those who would sell it out for less than the 30 shekels that judas got.
If she refused to meet them they could seek solace with the master of flipflop, obama himself


Sarah Palin's Speech at the Republican National Convention
http://tinyurl.com/6a2r2f
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we the people,

05/09/2008 13:49:07
blind 'love' of one's country leads one to reproduce the mistakes of the past. if you really 'love' your country, you need to engage in relentless self-critique, in order to make the best of it.
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Aearnur,

05/09/2008 14:02:40
I've been allergic to Bush since the start, however I have been until this point been quite with McCain. I had assumed, wrongly it seems, that a whole raft of lessons would have been learnt by the right in America from the Bush years. But no, they are not chastened. This is most likely because a high percentage of them are immune to the concept that ANY action taken by those who profess to be doing something for God particularly and for America generally cannot be wrong. The Republican Party has, I think correctly, seen that those people who got Bush elected are still out there, still fervently desirous of a fundamentalist "Christian" government and panting to vote such in.

I'm sure McCain himself is not that keen, just as Bush Snr was not. Still, he wants to make it and he's been told this is his best bet. He must be hoping he can drop a few of the wilder notions coming from his VP in the way Bush could not. For the rest of us out here in the wide world we'd better hope he has a good physician on hand at all times! Otherwise our long-awaited celebrations at the welcome exit of GWB may be very short-lived.
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Tina 2,

Sag Harbor, USA 05/09/2008 14:21:26
Hey #95, I'm always happy to debate the issues, but if I, personally, am one of the reasons you vote against the democrats, then you truly are an irrational child. I have nothing to do with this election. But go ahead; project all your fantasies on me that you like. One day, maybe, you'll realize that your projections and reality are two different things. If you voted for Bush, however, in 2004, then you're hopeless, and there's nothing further to say on the matter, other than, please, for the love of God, get professional help.
98

SouthernGent,

05/09/2008 15:16:49
#103
Unfortunately, you seem to think a lot of yourself. I don't agree with you, so I need help - hmmm.

By your post, you believe in what I perceive to be a flawed set of ideals - and you call me a child - hmmm.

Sounds like more flash and no substance to back it up.
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robfm,

05/09/2008 15:29:22
#104
It seems nobody has a more flawed set of ideals then yourself sir.
Your posts show your education... however there is nothing more common in your right wing GANGS than educated people with no common sense. Eight years of HELL isn't that enough to convince you we need REAL change in this country?
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Danepiper,

USA 05/09/2008 15:31:51






PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE COMPARISON


2008 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE COMPARISON TALKING POINTS

ISSUE JOHN McCAIN
BARAK OBAMA

Favors new drilling offshore US
Yes
No

Will appoint judges who interpret the law not make it
Yes
No


Served in the US Armed Forces
Yes
No

Amount of time served in the US Senate
22 YEARS
173 DAYS

Will institute a socialized national health care plan
No
Yes

Supports abortion throughout the pregnancy
No
Yes

Would pull troops out of Iraq immediately
No
Yes

Supports gun ownership rights
Yes
No

Supports homosexual marriage
No
Yes

Proposed programs will mean a huge tax increase
No
Yes

Voted against making English the official language
No
Yes

Voted to give Social Security benefits to illegals
No
Yes

CAPITAL GAINS TAX

MCCAIN
0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples). McCain does not propose any change in existing home sales income tax.

OBAMA
28% on profit from ALL home sales. (How does this affect you? If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income.)

DIVIDEND TAX

MCCAIN
15% (no change)

OBAMA
39.6% - (How will this affect you? If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes if Obama becomes president. The experts predict that 'Higher tax rates on div
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Danepiper,

USA 05/09/2008 15:33:40
INCOME TAX

MCCAIN
(no changes)

Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $31,250

OBAMA (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750
Under Obama, your taxes could almost double!

INHERITANCE TAX

MCCAIN
- 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)

OBAMA
Restore the inheritance tax
Many families have lost businesses, farms, ranches, and homes that have been in their families for generations because they could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their assets to loved ones will only lose them to these taxes.


NEW TAXES PROPOSED BY OBAMA

New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than 2400 square feet. New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren't high enough already) New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating gas, water, electricity) New taxes on retirement accounts, and last but not least....New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the same level of medical care as other third-world countries!!!




You can verify the above at the following web sites:

http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/election/2008/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/issues/issues.taxes.html

http://elections.foxnews.com/?s=proposed+taxes
http://bulletin.aarp.org/yourworld/politics/articles/mccain_obama_offer_different_visions_on_taxes.html

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/candidates/barack_obama/
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/candidates/john_mccain/






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Agricolus the Dwarf Engineer,

Pgh, USA 05/09/2008 15:44:56
Horrible woman? Old-fashioned sixties clothing? Creationist? Not bad for a woman who is running for a position where she will sit in front of the Senate and bang a gavel for four years.

Come on, guys! It's a VP. And we in America should remember that too. Is she the next president? No, she's already been bashed about like a kite in a windstorm.

The real race is still Obama and McCain.

#48 Spoot - have my passport at home on the dresser. Sorry for the American intrusion in a world that has become smaller with each passing day. But the article was on American politics.

Oh, and #55 Bogmon - we'll just sit back and become isolationists, and see how long it takes the world to go to hell in a handbasket.

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robfm,

05/09/2008 17:00:42
#107
TAx Tax TAX tax tax.... is this your only argument? It is my belief that income tax is illegal. It says in our constitution there will be no direct tax applied to the American people. Hoover changed that. Now we pay. But I have no problem paying a tax that is used for the benefit of my country. It just seems this administration has used our for the benefit of Big Business. Oil companies (big tax breaks for these clowns), and the military industry and very little seems to be left for our infrastructure or even our soldiers benefits. Is there no Empathy left? People come over the border from Mexico whos only intention is survival. America pisses on them (LOU DOBBS) I would rather my taxes help them then be spent on an illegal war in Iraq.
104

PAscotsman,

Pennsylvania,USA 05/09/2008 17:19:43
Having been a Democrat since I was able to vote-- I will change this year and vote for the opposition. Sen. McCain and Gov Palin make one great team. They both have the same down to earth appeal and I really beleive they care about the people of this country. Sen. Obama is in my area today campaigning--but the public is not invited and he is speaking at a plant owned by a German company. Why not make a public appearance and speak to the public? He may be sincere and really beleive what he says but I don't see him doing what should be done. At this time with our country at war we also need someone with a military background - John McCain has that.

MCCAIN - PALIN HAVE MY VOTE
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Miss H,

05/09/2008 17:28:57
108 Don't kid yourself that US foreign policy is based on helping the world. The US is an empire. And like all empires will pass away. It is up to you to decide how you want to disengage by choice or out of necessity.
106

harry lewes de,

nassau 05/09/2008 17:33:41
You guys have any good Labour party pols over there whom Sen. Biden can plagarize this campaign?
107

BillMcKill,

california 05/09/2008 17:39:05
People like Alec in Chicago need to get a life and get the facts about the 2000 Florida Presidential elections.
Al Gore brought suit in a Florida lower court to force a re-evaluation of ballots in only Miami-Dade and Broward Counties in which he had substantial majorities.
The lower court judge [Sanders Sauls, a Democrat] ruled that it was not permissible to do re-evaluation for only selected counties. He used the equal protection clause of the Constitution as the legal basis for his finding. The reasoning behind the finding was that re-evaluation would tend to increase the total vote and thus increase majorities, and should therefore be done for all counties rather than ones selected by Gore.
The Florida Supreme Court [heavy to Democrat appointees] over-ruled Sauls and then was over-ruled in turn by the U.S. Supreme Court
108

robfm,

05/09/2008 17:47:02
How ironic, Bill McKill is telling someone to get a life.
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Alec in Chicago,

Chicago 05/09/2008 19:09:37
Nomad #93

I never said anything about the competence of the folks at Diebold. I was talking about their honesty.

Your comment has no bearing on the basic need to keep Diebold out of voting: Republican-supporting, demonstrably dishonest (backward-running counters, negative starting points, and vote-switching - all to Republican advantage), and unwilling to allow outsiders to evaluate their software.

It is to their advantage to keep ATMs impregnable and accurate, while it to their advantage to keep their voting machines operating in a quite different fashion.

These, combined with the lack of a paper trail, make black box voting a most revolting development.

Such a childish attempt to change the topic.

You still haven't addressed my point about O'Connor and the Supreme Court. They quashed the re-count when it looked as though Bush might lose. They did not impose a state-wide re-count in its place, which is what they would have demanded, had they truly believed that that was fairer or more logical or more proper.

Don't think it is has gone unnoticed by the readers here.
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sergiesmax,

05/09/2008 19:16:19
She wants to bring back the shooting of wolves and bears from planes in alaska she wants to take the polar bear of the endangered species list she wants to drill for oil in the alaskan nature reserves she wants You to think she has no personal interest in all this while all the time her husband works for BP who are you trying to kid Sarah Palin
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Josiecamp,

San Francisco 05/09/2008 19:54:32
I cannot comment on UK or Scottish politics, as an American I am not immersed and therefore do not understand the system. It is obvious that from reading these posts the majority of people do not understand US politics but all have an opinion on a candidate that I'm sure none of them heard of until a week ago while US west coast newspapers have been reporting her illegalities and flip flops since she ran for governor. There is currently a move in the Alaska Legislature to impeach her for corruption and unfortunaely the McCain vet-committee are still in Alaska with wide brushes and barrels of white-wash.
112

Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 05/09/2008 20:09:09
#107 Danepiper, USA.. Thanks for the most clear, concise difference between the 2 candidates.
I watched Obama on the "The Factor"..He still could not admit the surge worked because of McCain and Gen, Petraeus, who, by the way he has never spoken with. I also watched him lie by omission, saying the Iraqis have not taken control. Somebody should inform this man that 11 or so provinces have alsready been turned back to the Iraqis. But, you know, when politics come first...so do the lies.
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CANUCK,

CANADA 05/09/2008 20:23:40
The Republicans that are being presented to the American people on this ballot are nothing more than "Militaristic country hicks" who are using fear of the outside world and fear of the "bogey man" Obama to move the American voters, they make it clear that an American is not a patriot by voting for the Democrate party, this accusation an American cannot abide. The frightening aspect is that the American people will,becuase of fear and ignorance, believe what the republicans are saying and it is more than possible that the republicans will be back anew to continue messing up the world for the next four years or more.
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Alec in Chicago,

Chicago 05/09/2008 20:24:06
# 84 bogmon

No, you didn't come across as a blanket American hater.

I know the frustration of many people around the world, but you need to know: there are may of us right here in the US that hate exactly what you hate about our government. We deplore the increasng loss of freedoms here at home even more than those looking in: we live with them.

Did you read the article published in the Scotsman about the protesters at the Republican convention? Did it seem a bit one-sided to you? Go to www.alternet.org for lots of stories on that and other topics from an angle that is not found in our corporate-owned and -controlled MSM (mainstream media). Democracy Now!, www.democracynow.org - (where you can read articles and watch/listen to Amy Goodman's broadcast online) - and even the Nation, www.thenation.com are other good sources, though I find the Naiton leaning more to the Democratic Party line - and they are part of the problem here. (MoveOn has undergone a similar change.) AlterNet allows you to post, and they have a steadily-improving method of dealing with neocon trolls, which you might enjoy. Good investigative journalism can be found at Consortium News, too: www.consortiumnews.com (Lots of nasty truths about Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, McCain, Palin - even some Democrats, who are nothing like an opposition party.

What you detected in my reply was the same exasperation that I detected in yours - but multiplied, because the US government is (supposed to be) mine.

Outside the US, it must appear as though all the people either endorse the government or have rolled over, but this is not the case. It is difficult to fight, though, when both parties contribute to the problem. "How can Americans have elected Bush?!" is a common question. However, as I said, Americans elected Gore in 2000 - despite vote-stealing, the purging of likely Gore-voters from election/voter rolls, and Ralph Nader (who did far less damage than any one of the Republic
115

SouthernGent,

05/09/2008 20:31:24
#105
"Eight years of HELL isn't that enough to convince you we need REAL change in this country?"

I guess that would depend on your definition of hell. Am I pleased with everything thats taken place in the last 8 years - no. Do I see a need for changes - Yes. Am I willing to trade one bad situation for another - no. Ever heard the saying - its better to keep the devil you know vs change it in for a devil you don't know? If you think the economy is bad now, you haven't seen anything yet. You don't raise taxes to stimulate an economy.

#106,107 lays it out for you. That is not a recipe for economic stimulus. Handouts in the short term, but more harm in the long term.

Obama plans on raising corporate taxes as well. You know who pays for those? You and me. Corp taxes are an expense on the books - they will be reflected in either the increased cost of the goods/services or the corporation must reduce costs somewhere else. Who do you think loses their job? Won't be the guy at the top. So Obama will cost his own voters their jobs and then they have to pay more for things they need - that makes sense. And don't forget many unions have their pension plans in corporations - they lose too. Corporations are "us", we WANT them to do well. WE are the ones that suffer when they don't.

To set the record straight, I believe society has an obligation to help those less fortunate. The ones that can't care for themselves. But that should not include those that CHOOSE to be less fortunate. I've stated in the past that there is no excuse for dropping out of a "free" education system, yet many that you want to care for have. There is a difference between CAN"T take care of oneself and WON"T take care of oneself. Your party is an advocate for laziness.

Do you believe in enabling alcoholics by providing them alcohol? If not, why would you believe in enabling lazy people by giving them money.

How about letting your child choose not to do his/her schoolwork - you know that
116

SouthernGent,

05/09/2008 21:05:00

How about letting your child choose not to do his/her schoolwork - you know that child will fail. Why let people CHOOSE to not work and then reward them with payments. Your party has created the single largest population of dependant people in this country because of handouts to people that CHOOSE not to better themselves. Any one of them (and you know the ones I'm referring to - not those that actually need help) can choose to go back to school any day of the week. Education is the ticket out, but they have to take that first step. (Your party leaders actually don't want them to better themselves knowing they would lose votes if they did)

People need motivation, not handouts. Educate them to grow food instead of giving them food. How much trash do you see on our highways? Pick it up - get money (just an example). The way it is, there is no incentive to get off the couch because the check comes in the mail. They need to work for it.

Why should those that choose to work have to pay for those that CHOOSE not to?

I believe in personal responsibility and accountability - your party does not.

Slavery is not dead in this country - your party promises handouts in order to enslave the less fortunate. Quit giving people "free" money and see how fast they decide to better themselves.
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"Scotty",

Usa 05/09/2008 22:40:11
Oh Bill Jamieson, you haven't a clue. If the McCain/ Palen pair win, it'll be another four years like the past 8 and who knows, perhaps we'll all be invading Iran.
.
The Convention just finished (and thank goodness) in the city in which I live, the Capital of Minnesota, and with it comes an end to the blockades, 10 feet fences, riot police. There has been, and is absolutely no freedom of speech here; at least not in the last 8 years of the bush/cheney reign. This will continue as Palin wants to take away the right of a woman to choose what to do to her own body. She voted for the infamous Bridge to Nowhere in her home state, then decided against it, but kept the almost 3 million dollars they got for said bridge. She wants privacy for her family but keeps parading ALL of them onto the stage during the Convention, and out to the airport to greet McCain when he arrived in Saint Paul on Wednesday.
.
Oh yes, she is glamourous but she is from the extreme right and is willing to take her "sisters" rights away from them all.
.
This blasted campaign has been going on now for over FOUR YEARS; enough already. As soon as the upcoming election is passed, they'll get ready for the next one. It takes billions of dollars, money that could be used to help the common folk in so many ways; the majority of politicians are quite corrupt and only out for themselves. Get used to it.
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SouthernGent,

05/09/2008 23:04:58
#125
"This will continue as Palin wants to take away the right of a woman to choose what to do to her own body."

That woman is also deciding what to do with another "body", but that makes no difference, right?

I may be dense and wouldn't call myself religious, but explain to me why the choice begins after pregnancy instead of before. Once a seed germinates, is it not a plant? Why are babies different, because of definitions?
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Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 05/09/2008 23:10:30
here's a description of what Sarah Palin did when she first became mayor of Wasilla.

http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/05/wwsb-what-would-sarah-ban/

Immediately upon becoming mayor Palin asked the librarian if she would remove books from the library upon request. The librarian said 'no'. and Palin wanted her fired for this. Then Palin made up a story about this woman being against Palin's program. Then the people of Wasilla rallied around the librarian and complained to Palin. Then Palin agreed to keep the librarian.

This woman is a housewife who is in over her head. She's also a tool being used for the sake of dividing our country up and distracting us from real issues. Gallup poll released yesterday showed that since she was selected many undecided voters have made up their minds and 2 in 3 are breaking for Obama. McCain is selected as the loser in our election already by those who rule us. That is why they had McCain select Palin. She is causing great division and nothing good. Obama is the chosen winner in our election already and those rallying around Palin are playing into the hands of those who rule us who have already selected Obama as our president.

Its not the first time. Bob Dole threw the election in 1996. GHW Bush threw it in 1992. Al Gore didn't care about a recount for a reason.
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cambeuluk,

UK 05/09/2008 23:47:06
"her electrifying speech" - was the writer of this piece listening to the same monologue as I was? I waited in vain for the point when Palin spoke about some of the major issues that transcend national boundaries. Instead, I had to check I wasn't listening to a candidate for the chair of the 'Mothers of the American Revolution' rather than the prospective VP of the United States. Her references were simplistic and trite, masking the ruthlessness of her politics relating to the environment, preservation of wildlife and the promotion of the Oil companies interests. Her knowledge of the world outside small town America is abysmal and I despair of the'X-Factor' type presentation of a candidate of one of the most powerful political offices in the world.

Some in America may vote for this mirage, but I am afraid that many will come to regret it if McCain gets in and she is just one step from exercising her power nationally as she has gone in Alaska.

As an example, McCain and Palin favour offshore drilling.

Take it from one Richard Charter who who has studied offshore drilling for more than three decades. Drilling and sensitive coastal ecosystems are a dangerous combination.

Offshore drilling contaminates water, routinely spilling oil and toxic liquids into our oceans and releasing hazardous fumes into our air.

Pollutants like mercury and persistent hydrocarbons contaminate important marine habitat near platforms.
Seismic testing associated with drilling can cause dolphins, whales and other marine mammals to become disoriented and stranded and -- in some cases -- even die.

Massive spills that can result from drilling and increased tanker traffic can kill dolphins, seabirds, sea turtles, fish and marine mammals.

****
In case anyone reading this queries what someone currently living in the UK understands about American politics, my family background includes American, Canadian and Scots relatives.


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NYScott,

Up state NY 06/09/2008 00:49:10
Oy Vay! Glad that alot of you back 'ome won't be able to vote for this "Skirt" as that's all she is. Sad to see people will jump for pure entertainment than actual working abilities and experience. Note how the Republicans talk like theres "Another Party" in power now (?) After raping the economy over here, selling out to big business and the oil barrons McCain & his floozie are just another set of puppets (or should that be stooges?) for the "Party". McCain (wolf in sheeps closing) complaining about the Wolfs in office?? Some of us have found that the so call "New Republicans" are really a new form of an old (German)idea which are Nationalists. OMG does that sound familiar? Well Victory to Bush! But I hope Obama wins! It's not the color of the skin but the Man that's within!
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Alec in Chicago,

Chicago 06/09/2008 06:02:44
127 bogmon

You're very welcome. Any time we cross paths, feel free to ask for more links! (I can't guarantee I'll have any, but if I do, they're yours for the asking.)

I suspect ConsortiumNews alone will keep you busy for some time. Don't miss the archives (links in the left-hand column). There are many hours' reading of troubling reports on that site.

As bad as you thought things were, I'd lay odds you'll find they are in fact worse.
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57Nomad,

california 08/09/2008 23:48:10
#9 Scully

Scully said:

"She calls herself and McCain mavericks and are gunning for the Washington elite. Hmm, who's been running Washington for the past 8 years?"

There are three co-equal branches of government in the US. The Executive, the Legislative, and the Judicial. The word co-equal has meaning. So to answer your question, the past four years, the Democrats have had control of both the House of Representatives and the Senate. They make the laws and they hold the purse strings to the treasury.

Nonetheless your question is a good one. Sarah Palin is the Governor of Alaska which is as far away as you can get from Washington and still be in the US (I think, it could be Hawaii),so she is a true outsider. As for being a Maverick, Palin did not get to be governor by beating a Democrat, she won by beating a another Republican. Sarah cleaned up the corruption rife in Juneau, and is the most popular governor in the US. She is a Maverick and an outsider. John McCain has been infuriating fellow Republicans since he has been in the Senate and although, owing to the fact that he's been a Senator for a number of years he is also an authentic Maverick.

This ticket is 10 points ahead in the most current poll of likely voters. Whether it stays that way remains to be seen. But, its better to be 10 points up than 10 points down.
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#129 cammy

cammy said:

"I waited in vain for the point when Palin spoke about some of the major issues that transcend national boundaries."

I can give you one reason why you waited in vain. She's running for VP of the United States, not the United Nations.

 

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