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SNP's 'Thatcherite' squeeze on councils under attack



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Published Date: 29 March 2008
COUNCIL services are being returned to the worst days of the Thatcherite squeezes of the 1980s because of cuts by the SNP government, Andy Kerr, Labour's local government spokesman, claimed yesterday.

Mr Kerr told the Scottish Labour Conference in Aviemore that the Scottish Government had delivered the worst settlement for local government since devolution but was refusing to take the blame.

The conference was told of cuts imposed by counci
ls in Aberdeen, Edinburgh and West Dunbartonshire.

Mr Kerr said: "These councils have returned us to the days of Thatcherism, with cuts and compulsory redundancies not seen since the Eighties."

The former finance minister said SNP ministers had built up a "façade" of co-operation with local government by forging a concordat, based on the council-tax freeze.

But he warned: "Behind that façade lies the danger of Scottish local government being held responsible for the delivery of the SNP's ill-conceived, badly costed manifesto promises."

The cuts were taken up by other speakers. Anne Begg, the Labour MP for Aberdeen South, focused on Aberdeen, where the council has to trim £27 million from its planned budget.

She said: "The lives of thousands of people will be ruined by what the SNP and the Lib Dems are doing in Aberdeen .

They are taking (the money] from the people who cannot fight back, they have managed to pick fights with children, the elderly, disabled people and the homeless.

West Dunbartonshire Council faces cuts of £1.29 million over the next three years and in the capital, schools and nurseries had been threatened with closure and arts funding has been slashed because of the freeze.

But Christina McKelvie, the SNP MSP for Central Scotland, said the Labour-led South Lanarkshire Council, in Mr Kerr's constituency, had welcomed its £692 million settlement.

She added: "This is a huge embarrassment for Andy Kerr. His very own councillors have undermined his claims."





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  • Last Updated: 28 March 2008 11:16 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Senga Jean,

Scotland 29/03/2008 00:14:07
The SNP are just too good for Labour to comprehend. That whirring sound? Just Keir Hardie in his grave having heard the NuLabour Conference Broadcast! Whirring , spinning and stirring is our Gordon.
2

Navvy,

29/03/2008 00:14:24
A price worth paying to trim out 50 years of labour ineptitude.
3

subrosa,

29/03/2008 00:24:23
If Anne Begg was worth her salt she would have noticed the state of Aberdeen's finances long before now. Perhaps she did and hoped it would go away. That's the usual labour tactic isn't it.
4

Hmm ...,

29/03/2008 00:25:28
... Labour still throwing its rattle out of the pram in a fit of pique! Sometimes nothing changes.

I am glad we are rid of Labour's inept money wasting flights of fancy - and that goes for local council waste as well.

They did nothing useful in the Scottish Parliament's first eight years but cost us a lot of money while they were doing it.

It's good to see that the SNP have people who are both able and honest - a new development here!
5

BIG EYE,

Paisley 29/03/2008 00:30:11
The Labour PPB this evening announced complete surrender.

Having failed to come up with a single reason to vote for them in 2008 we were treated to a history lesson about why people voted for them more than fifty years ago.

Small problem... they sold out on these principles decades ago!

It's time
6

druidh,

edinburgh 29/03/2008 00:33:09
What were Labour council leaders saying to all this then? Sniggering at the back of the room I suppose!
7

Samoyed,

Costa del Menie 29/03/2008 01:14:57
With reference to Begg, Doran, Rumbles and McDonald labourites comments about the shambles in which Aberdeen CC is inmersed, and Kerr's Thacherite insult.

The fact of the matter is that Labour refused to undertake the equal pay exercise when they ruled and left the city with liabilities of millions. Then when the current admin try to do so and comply with the law Labours bedfellows, the unions, refuse to accept the outcomes and put in disputes to slow the process down, so proposed savings could not be made.

It makes me sick that Labour, whose noses are out of joint from being kicked out of power, are playing seedy little political games with the citizens of Aberdeen to further their own narrow minded agenda.

The fact that one of labours top players in Aberdeen doesn't seem to know the difference between a capital and a revenue budget says it all, but what can one expect of their memory?

The funny thing is that the Nats where never even close to the shambles, as they only came on board the last election and as Lab-Dem minor partner. The previous administration was Lab/Tory, who faced an unions supported rebellion from the council staff when they tryed to implement the equal pay agreement.

What nobody is mentioning is that close to 70% of the mentioned ACC staff support Labour, following unions own figures.

Who's to blame? Aye! the public.




8

frank mcbride,

lusitania 29/03/2008 02:27:36
Andy Kerr of the NuLab Illiteratii is a strange person. He genuinely believes that current LA funding problems are the result of the present SG.

Wise people know that it is impossible to blame those who have not previously been in charge; blame can only be attributed to those who controlled.

The SNP have only been in government since after the last budget (1 of 8 by NuLab). The SNP Government has been responsible for 1 (2008) which (incidently) gave LAs a settlement above inflation; above the level of the Westminster/Holyrood settlement.

It would behove Mr Kerr to say nothing, as the people of Scotland know, and know well, why the present problems have arisen. Mostly through NuLab's incompetence.
9

Huntly loon,

Aberdeenshire 29/03/2008 02:46:43
The problems in Aberdeen did not happen overnight. Those who are crying foul is the homeless charity The Cyrenians. We all sympathise with them, but local authority money (i.e. council tax payers' money) must go first to what the council is legally obliged to provide. Unfortunately for those concerned supporting charities and running rare animal farms are not their responsibility, however worthy.

The City budget may be going through a 'squeeze' but under the Labour party council tax payers have been under an ever increasing squeeze for nigh on ten years. We can afford local authority profligacy no longer. It is unfortunate that so many worthy causes such as the blind craft factory now have to suffer, to featherbed the pensions of early-retiring Labour supporting local authority employees. Miaow!

10

Auckland Arab2,

29/03/2008 03:43:55
So will the Scotsman be printing this story....

"During the web chat, driven by questions from BBC viewers, listeners and online users, she was asked to score herself out of 10 for her performance since being elected leader unopposed in September last year.

"Rising all the time, I think is the answer," said Ms Alexander, adding: "Ten out of 10, 10 out of 10."

Maybe she was talking about her IQ!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7317115.stm
11

Mercutio,

FALKIRK 29/03/2008 04:21:10
91% Nat Posts so far! is this a bit creepy?
12

frank mcbride,

lusitania 29/03/2008 04:32:58
#11, Mercutio.

Not at all, BUT are all the posters SNP supporters?

The truth is obvious, the shortfalls are the responsibility of previous administrations.

LAs now have the autonomy that they should have had years ago, but were denied. THEY are now genuinely resposible to their Electorate.

However, I would ask that they be given time to adjust to this responsibilty.
13

donald,

glasgow 29/03/2008 05:01:40
The Labour broadcast forgot the Ramsay MacDonalds, the Tony Blairs and the Gordon Broons..
14

A Better Way,

Edinburgh 29/03/2008 06:42:26
The Scottish Councils received more money from the SNP Scottish Government, than they had ever received in the past from Labour. In fact the SNP gave the local Councils 1.5% more than the rise in inflation. Andy Kerr wanted to centralise hospitals in one of New Labour usual grand plans, in spite of the fact that it would result in more deaths because of increased ambulance time. Nicola Sturgeon has stopped all of his crap, and has invested more in the NHS than Labour ever did.

You all know it would be quite easy to go on about the SNP's success because it spoke to the people rather than spoke down to them like Labour.

Just remember that a London Controlled Political Party wrote up 22 billion quids worth of debt, for substandard buildings, that wont survive the Scottish Weather according to senior architects. How much is 22 Billion Debt divided by Five Million Scottish People?. Didnt Brown and Blair tell us that the SNP would leave us all with debt?. I think they lied about who would, when it was Wendy's Party of thieves who lived of the ordinary Scots back for more years than we would want remember.

Blair is gone into his cushy retirement and making millions every year. Gods curse to him. Now its time to get rid of Brown and the thief Wendy along with the other scummy Labour fiddle merchants. Wendy lives in a house not many Scots could afford, yet she represents an area that is amongst the most deprived in Europe. Andy Kerr is doing very well as well, with his addiction for London made suits.

Lets see any Union poster name one New Labour politician here in Scotland who has worked for private companies, and is not now better off because of their nose in the trough,both here and down south in their homeland of England.
15

Knit your own Yohgurt,

29/03/2008 06:53:11
What is bad about cutting "services" to the disabled?

Life is easier for them if we spend £00,000s picking them up with taxis to go to a hired hall to eat cake and for the day. Or other expensive day trips.

But let's get our priorities right!

Equality is not about returning the lions share per head of money to the disabled. (Medical, food and shelter bills excluded of course.)

Fixing a pothole or policing a street is far more important than day trips.

16

W U Merchant,

Aberdeen 29/03/2008 07:11:33
And the SNP's proposed poll tax will make things even worse.
17

Bob Christie,

29/03/2008 07:52:34
IF Kerr believes this to be true he could perhaps do something about it whilst in Aviemore.
The Labour Party is waging an illegal war in Iraq costing billions of pounds.
So Mr Kerr, get an emergency motion passed at your conference ending the Labour Party's illegal war and transfer around 10% of the savings to Holyrood and ask that it be ring-fenced for Scottish Councils.
But Mr Kerr, I will not hold my breath!
18

eric,

Lothian 29/03/2008 08:05:46
For 40yrs Glasgow has been screaming out for Crossrail and the benefits to Scotland etc etc ,Now its a reality,Ill never go back to labour,
19

Mr. Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 29/03/2008 09:00:03
Mr Kerr uses West Dunbartonshire Council as an example of Nationalist cuts?

On its website, the Council provides full details of its annual expenditure. Like many other councils, WD has agreed to a 3 year freeze of the Council Tax in return for an above-average settlement from Holyrood?

A 2007 report by Audit Scotland found many deficiencies in Council expenditure which are now being addressed.
Could it be that the previous Labour/Lib-Dem Scottish Executive also failed to provide West Dunbartonshire Council with sufficient funding?
20

Bridged and tunnelled,

29/03/2008 09:46:05
it's nice to see people, who all agree with each other, having a conversation among themselves.

But the fact they all agree, and there are no dissenting voices, doesn't make them right, or sensible and certainly doesn't mean they have a monopoly on wisdom.

Comment applies both to Labour Party conference (indeed any party conference) and to the increasingly pointless postings on this site and the Herald.
21

Porty Nat,

Edinburgh 29/03/2008 10:02:19
#16 W U Merchant - A poll tax levies the same tax on everyone no matter what they earn. The council tax levies it only on the householder based on what the value of the house they own/rent is worth, and lets everyone else in the house off scot free.

In stark contrast, a local income tax is based on what people earn, with people only paying what they can aford. Do try and learn the difference...

# 20 - Very true.
22

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 29/03/2008 10:16:02
#16 You clearly don't understand LIT if you think it is the same as a poll tax.
23

 Ayrshire Scot™,

29/03/2008 10:26:27
Meanwhile, Gordon Brown has tea with Thatcher and heaps praise on her, Labour sack 12,000 staff at the DWP, sack 10,000 disable workers as they close Remploy, close 4,000 post offices, privatise Air traffic control, cut millionaire's inheritance tax, introduce tuition fees, invade Iraq, buy new Trident WMD, vote with the Tories against council house building in Scotland, refuse to back date the police pay award.....

Good to see Labour not talking a wee bit left in Scotland in panic at their defeat while continuing their love-in with Thatcher-Tory polices.
24

ochone,

Sauchie, Clack's 29/03/2008 10:30:11
What an admission of failure and ineptitude, Labours big idea for attacking the SNP.

Back to the old 'Tatan Tories'lie.

Alex Salmond must be killing himself laughing.
25

observer9,

Glasgow 29/03/2008 10:31:52
Redundancies.? Where's the evidence, more likely to be voluntary early retirement again at taxpayers expense. Maybe reducing the size of council overheads closer to numbers in the eighties is no bad thing.This week in Aberdeen they cut the funding to the most vulnerable to get headlines steering away from from their over inflated and over protected pensions pot.


Maybe a root and branch review of the number of councils would allow for more efficiency similar to the realities of the pressurised private commercial world. We're not here to keep those clowns in a job.
26

observer9,

Glasgow 29/03/2008 10:40:02
On redundancies, it was revealed yesterday by the taxpayers alliance that 2 people in Stirling Council were paid ove £100,000 each in redundancy payments but the council have refused to name them. Surely the council taxpayers of Stirling, especially as they are funding it have the right to know what posts have been removed and why. That is the only way that taxpayers can be assured that these posts are not being filled under another name.
27

Il Penseroso,

Inverurie 29/03/2008 11:01:01
# 7 Samoyed Spot On
"Thatcherite squeeze"" indeed. I attended the rigged debate on the Aberdeen squeeze and it was no more than an emotional stunt by the New/Scottish Labour failures on the platform. Frank Doran and Ann Begg had just days before voted on the bill to close our post offices. They both support "means testing" yet the manifesto on which they were elected in 1997 promised to abolish it.The two MSPs were so good they were thrown out of office last year. The past leader of the Labour Councillors was also on the platform and boasted how good his lot had been looking after the City. Of course they got the boot too. Only yesterday the The Fuel Poverty Advisory Group branded the government's efforts to solve this problem as "a national disaster" and suggested they had given up their legally binding obligations. But we all know what happens to Westminster promises!As for Aberdeen? Well I wonder who will be feeling the jitters when the Audit Commissioners investigate the "goings on" within Aberdeen City Council? I'll bet it will not be the councillors who are in post for the first time ever.The Labour, Conservatives and the LibDems in previous care of the city may find the investigations "troublesome".
28

Truely English,

29/03/2008 11:41:36
How can any Authority do this to their fellow Brits and defenceless animals.
29

bill-alba,

Fife 29/03/2008 11:46:48
Aberdeen council are about to move to a new £80 million headquarters which was planned under what party??? perhaps if the coucil was to give its ego a break that money could be spent.
30

Alasdair,

29/03/2008 12:03:03
Still no semblance of honesty in Hamish's reporting, I see.
Seriously, Hamish - aren't you ashamed by this sub-Pravda sh!t?

When the SNP/Lib Dems took over Edinburgh council, they discovered that our previous administration had turned (and hidden the fact that they'd turned) a surplus in the bank of millions into a deficit.
That is on record and irrefutable.

Then we have examples like the rotten boroughs in North Lanrkshire and its surrounds, where decades of Labour-led corruption and ineptitude has saddled the locals with backrupt and broken administrations.

I suggest that anyone interested looks up the lists of worst-performing councils in Scotland.
Year-on-year they are Labour run, a coincidence?
31

Sassi,

29/03/2008 12:26:54
Under the previous executive the 'cuts' were called 'efficiency savings'.
32

Jock MacTamson 2,

Highlands 29/03/2008 13:29:27
I am delighted the councils will be focussing on making cuts to waste. I deal alot with members of the council and they are the best paid/least worked members of society.

It would turn your hair grey to see how much wastage exists. Publish the expenditure of the councillors in the same way we will be for MP's/MSP's.

Unions/Labour/Special Interest Charities need to remember who is paying for all their moral crusades.

We would all like improved services but local government needs to get it finances in order. Remove all these socialist dreamers and bring in some people with business experience.

Idealogy over affordability will not work.
33

Middle Watch,

The Bridge 29/03/2008 13:42:35
Wendy says;
OK OK right Gordon, thanks now call you later, bye. I've been told to say, oops, OK right, the SNP are a Thatcherite party.

Bella says;
OK OK right David, thanks for that call you later,the SNP are a bunch of bannanas,sorry the SNP are a bunch of left wing losers.

Nick says,
OK OK right Nick, thanks for that call you later, the SNP are a bunch of Thatcherite left wing bannana losers.

Cant they think for themselves?

34

Klaus Dubois,

Edinburgh 29/03/2008 13:57:52
Cut, then cut again. Councils have become far too politicised; they're there to fulfil the needs of local people & business on a 'best value for money' basis.
35

Truely English,

29/03/2008 17:37:15
32
How many overpaid Clerks will get their redundancy from these same Councils?
36

W U Merchant,

Aberdeen 29/03/2008 17:43:23
21

Portly Nat, get your facts straight. The SNP have duped the populace with their Council Tax freeze scam. How many non Council Tax payers realise that they are going to have to pay an additional tax? Very few. It's a poll tax.
37

OscarMacApfel,

Dumfries 29/03/2008 17:47:29
How much would the people of Aberdeen been willing to see their council tax rise to pay for these services?

£27 million spread out in a population of ...how many? How much per head?
38

Richard,

west lothian 29/03/2008 19:59:13

W U Merchant,
Aberdeen...you wouldn't ken a fact if it skelped ye in the puss!
39

W U Merchant,

Aberdeen 31/03/2008 15:05:33
38

Richard, why do you SNP "supporters" (IE Johnnie Come Latelys)always have to resort to personal abuse? What has happened to the power of debate? Sir, you are a disgrace to Scotland. I know that Alex is deeply ashamed of you.

 

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