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Published Date: 06 November 2009
SCOTLAND's thin blue line is getting whiter, new figures show.
The country's eight police forces hired just 18 people from ethnic minorities in 2008-9, out of nearly 2,000 officers signed up under the SNP's recruitment drive. Forces hired the same number of black or minority ethnic (BME) people in 2007-8, but th
en there were only just over 800 new recruits overall.

Some officers are now worried that low recruitment among minorities will hinder their efforts to police some of the country's more diverse communities – and combat terrorism.

Dilawer Singh, the chairman of Semper Scotland, a group that campaigns for diversity in the police, said the new figures were disappointing.

The retired Strathclyde police inspector said: "We should be seeing the proportion of BME officers rise, not drop.

"We really need BME officers, officers who pick up cultural and language things that others might miss when dealing with minority offenders.

"For example, some officers sometimes misunderstand the body language of South Asians they are interviewing. They might mistake a shake of the head, which might mean agreement, for disagreement."

Senior officers want to recruit more Scots Muslims to help gather intelligence on Islamic extremists. But robust policing following the Glasgow Airport attacks, they concede privately, seems to have put people off.

Osama Saeed, of the Scottish Islamic Foundation, said: "The figures are surprising, given that police have been making genuine and visible efforts to recruit among minority communities.

"There are still issues affecting the view of the police among Muslims, such as stops at airports, that need to be addressed."

Strathclyde Police, the nation's biggest force, has already admitted just 1.28 per cent of its officers were BME as of 31 March, 2009. That is down from 1.74 per cent a year before. Just over 2 per cent of Scots are BME.

The latest figures are in the annual report of Her Majesty's Inspectorate of Constabulary for Scotland, the cover of which showed a recent passing out parade of nearly 200 new officers. None appeared to be black.

The Association of Chief Police Officers in Scotland was unavailable for comment yesterday. But the Chief Inspector of Constabulary, Bill Skelly, said Acpos was committed "to the principles of positive action in respect of recruitment, retention, progression and development".

A Scottish government spokesman said recruitment was a matter for individual forces, but added: "We support the police service in its aim to ensure that our forces are fully representative of the communities they serve."

'Change would help build up trust and confidence'

WHY should police services in Scotland spend time, energy and taxpayers' money on getting more diversity in their workforce? Because the benefits can be tremendous, not least in the simple job of fighting crime.

A more diverse police force will bring skills, knowledge and experience that could help change practices that some people might see as being insensitive. That, in turn, would help build up trust and confidence by the community concerned in the police, and encourage people to tell the officers what could be key information.

Imagine how a deaf person would feel about the police if he or she was able to communicate with an officer who could use sign language. And how an Iranian would react to an officer who spoke Farsi?

Just hiring BME officers, however, isn't enough. Career progression is important.

Ranjana Bell






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  • Last Updated: 05 November 2009 9:48 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Law and Order
 
1

The Answer,

Glasgow 06/11/2009 00:07:52
99% of the public sector is staffed by whites in scotsland.

86% of the public sector is staffed by whites in England because of positive discrimination.

2

Observer,,

Glasgow 06/11/2009 00:15:02
100% of the Answers posts are a heap of mince.
3

Mercutio,

FALKIRK 06/11/2009 00:37:48
#2 Please stop using our national dish in the pejorative sense indicated in your post.
4

Anthony,

Glasgow 06/11/2009 00:40:27
2) 95% of observers posts on issues unrelated to immigration and multiculturalism are actually pretty nifty, intelligent and well thought out. On the aforementioned issues however, for some bizare this deteriorates with less than 3.4% making much sense.
5

Scotland Needs YOU,

Glasgow 06/11/2009 01:16:48
2 Observer,

{you} {yer wee dug}

G’nite.
6

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 06/11/2009 03:26:23
The Police should reflect the community they are policing.

It seems that making an effort to recruit visible minorities into the police has had no effect.

18 People a year seems to be the number of visible minorities willing to apply.

You could always bring in conscription but I doubt that would endear you to minority ethnic communities.
7

Jock's Away,

Africa 06/11/2009 05:11:15
"may miss understand the body language.' Yes and the other 100 + groups of people from non South Asians.
Note South Asians communites are more interested in seeing their off spring going into commerce or professions to strengthen their family position in the community, Old tradition die hard. Police in the Sub Continent are renouned for corruption, and to be held inb low esteem, for those of low intellegence and caste.
to try to measure something on a single dimension of colour is doomed to fail, similarly on Islam the characteristics of the one Billion Muslims cannot be equated with those of the the South asians, Indonesioans, Arabians, maroccans Pakistanis, Iranians the list goes on and ALL have cultural, traditional and physialogial difference which manifest them selve in their body lanugage.
The problem is not the police but the ingonance of those self professed experts and self interest groups pushing for thier own power.
8

blackops,

06/11/2009 05:12:55
if they want to apply then they will, if they dont then so be it. no need to force them and whatever is done do not drop the standards so as to recruit more BME's as this is the normal practise.
2% of scots are BME according to the above therefore seems that the police force are not so far away.
9

Rob Royston,

Africa 06/11/2009 06:17:26
As Osama Saeed says, Muslims have issues with the way they are treated by the police. I know that this is a true fact as a workmate of mine, UK born to a Muslim father but living a Western lifestyle, was targetted at Manchester Airport because of his name and had a gun pressed against his head in the bar when he put his hand in his pocket to pay for his drink.

The police should earn the trust of ethic minorities by treating them as they do other people and maybe then they would attract suitable recruits.
10

common sense voice,

06/11/2009 06:47:15
mind you, maybe safer... look what happened in Afganistan and in the US!
11

Douglas,

Bathgate 06/11/2009 07:54:06
Senior officers want to recruit more Scots Muslims to help gather intelligence on Islamic extremists.

Do they mean recruits for undercover work or are the bosses actually suggesting that Scottish Muslims are bursting with information relating to home-grown terrorism, they just ain't telling whitey?
12

yockel,

06/11/2009 07:55:38
Maybe 1 in 100 is a great result. What percentage of folk in Scotland belong to an ethnic minority?
13

aljok.23,

the world 06/11/2009 08:04:52
according to latest 98.19% of the population in Scotland is white.
14

Gdgy,

06/11/2009 08:14:09
There is very little more that we can change to attract more BMEs into the police - the procedures, monitoring etc are all there!
All we can hope for is that the insidious things, the unwelcomingness, the culture that was described as unknowingly "institutionally" racist will change with time. Until then we ahve to do our best...
15

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06/11/2009 08:18:39
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JT,

06/11/2009 08:38:45
As the majority of Scotland is white then the majority of the police are white simples! Like the gender issue, race should not be a factor in recruitment. You shouldnt have non white recruits just because some civil servant says so.
17

Mikey,

Carstairs Junction 06/11/2009 09:00:34
You can't force people to join the police. If recruits of any colour want to join then I'm sure they'll get taken on if they're the right calibre.
18

Mikey,

Carstairs Junction 06/11/2009 09:01:07
#15, that comment about sums up your grasp of current affairs!
19

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 06/11/2009 09:14:22
Who cares? Who really bloody cares?

Provided we have Officers who can do the job and do it well what difference does the colour of their skin matter?

I simply don't buy this rubbish about "you've got to have black policemen to police black areas". A policeman is a policeman. Either he can do his job or he can't. If he can't do his job, sack him and hire someone who can.
20

Rob Royston,

Africa 06/11/2009 09:16:31
#15, Maybe you should re-read the article on the Texas massacre. The Major was US born. Are WASP and Irish Americans foreigners as well? Maybe the Red Indians should be the only ones allowed in sensitive roles.

This guy was involved in psychiatry, could he have been a brainwashed sleeper for the false flag US / Israeli terrorists. Don't believe what the news tells you.
21

Mrs Alex Pinkfoot,

06/11/2009 09:34:18
#19.

Oh how cosy it must be to live in your monochromatic world.

Ignorance is bliss.
22

Horrible Cankers @Cyber Shebeen,

06/11/2009 09:48:07
21...Tis indeed....
23

Sedov,

06/11/2009 09:54:39
SNP?

Say one thing

Do another

They can blame the Police Service when it suits them

And have the power to intervene when it does not.

So lets see some action to put this right
24

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 06/11/2009 10:00:55
#21:

It's not igorance. It's reality.
25

Davy,

Africa maybe Uganda 06/11/2009 10:10:56
# 23 Sedov
The Scots are well known to be the most racial tolerant people in the world. So I would suggest a recruitment drive in Africa maybe Uganda. The Ugandans would love to police the Scots. The high pay they would receive for the job, would buy farm land for their families in Uganda. The greeny’s & the liberals would go along with that plan. The SNP would back it & labour would be all for it. Happy day's
26

Eric D,

06/11/2009 10:30:34
"Senior officers want to recruit more Scots Muslims to help gather intelligence on Islamic extremists" - I think not.
27

Rob Royston,

Africa 06/11/2009 10:34:58
#26, It's what they do down South.
28

Fowlin Wolf,

06/11/2009 10:45:10
Scottish football crowds are also 99% white.
Surely the scottish Govt should do something about this as well?
I was in Skye recently & most of the people there are seem to be white.
I did speak to a white hairdresser & she was Polish.
maybe she could apply for the Police.
29

Davy,

a bird on the wing over the sea to Skye 06/11/2009 11:28:50
# 28 Fowlin Wolf
You were over the sea to Skye recently & most of the people there are seem to be white. Were they really white, maybe it was Ugandans pretending to be white?
Mr Wolf the eyes can deceive.
30

common sense voice,

06/11/2009 12:19:24
20.. YOUR A FOOL.. GO ONTO YAHOO HOME PAGE.. YOU'LL SEE A PICTURE OF HIM IN HIS PREFERRED ATTIRIRE - looks like he's a muslim!
31

Jo Public,

06/11/2009 12:27:15
#23 Sedov.

What action do you recommend then? If people from ethnic minorities don't want to join the police force then that is that. There is absolutely no barrier to anybody who wants to join the police and who is able to pass the relevant exams/fitness becoming a police office. No barrier at all. What do you want to do? Do you want the Police forces to take on a certain percentage of ethnic minorities every year whether they want to join or not? Maybe drag them into the police training centre and force them to join? Is that it?

32

Ben Thehoose,

06/11/2009 12:56:37
#31 Jo P.

In addition to passing the required exams, persons in such sensitive areas should also pass muster as regards their Britishness. The Texas massacre was carried out by someone born in the USA but clearly not in sympathy with it which all goes to prove that being born in a cabbage patch does not make you a cabbage.

Foreigners also refers to persons born here but who think foreign still. It is a cultural thing much more than a legal one. The same applies, for example, to Brits living/born in Spain or South Africa. How many even bother to learn Spanish or Xhosa?
33

Jo Public,

06/11/2009 13:04:37
#32. Ben

You are no doubt correct. I wonder if the 'Britishness' test is the problem. There can't be many other reasons because there are no barriers - that would be illegal. In fact, I would imagine there would be something often referred to as "positive discrimination" applied in these cases.

However - whatever it is it's not the fault of the SNP as Sedov implies. Ridiculous tripe to suggest this.
34

Lys Alf,

Scotland 06/11/2009 13:04:49
Hatred for the white skin is a factor against joining the "enemy".

To be recruited into the police would bring accusations from within their own community of being a Quisling and would be an invitation to their communities to subject them to isolation.

Also, if Asian and Black settler communities were to encourage police recruitment from their communities they will loose a most important weapon in their arsenal. They could then no longer oppress what is left of the indigenous white community by crying racism whenever one of their members is aprehended for breaking the law especially when carrying out a hate crime against the white community.

Remember O J Simpson was able to get away with double murder by crying racism. If the investigating officer had been black he would not have escaped justice.
35

Gdgy,

06/11/2009 13:37:27
I knew it wouldn't tkae long for them to start putting forward their considered conclusions......

BTW #25 the stats on racially-incited incicdents don't back up the idea that the SCots are most racially tolerant in the world - we say that we are then do what we have always done - avoid or target the different!
36

Gary Inserik,

Nova Scotia 06/11/2009 14:35:04
What's being a Muslim got to do with ethnic minorities or skin colour in general?
37

Fowlin Wolf,

06/11/2009 15:06:14
#29 Davy

Some of the lasses on Skye & Harris have a touch of the Spanish / latin about them.

Maybe some Spanish sailors landed there back in the "olden days".

It certainly didnt do these lassies any harm.

Lovely looking girls.

38

FLUB,

a rocky outcrop in eastern central Scotland 06/11/2009 15:38:52
"Semper Scotland, a group that campaigns for diversity in the police,"

"WHY should police services in Scotland spend time, energy and taxpayers' money on getting more diversity in their workforce?"

How about an organisation that campaigns for solidarity in the Police, or the Police spending time, energy and money on getting more solidarity in their workforce?

Just a thought.
39

Scottish Stoic,

06/11/2009 17:12:05
"For example, some officers sometimes misunderstand the body language of South Asians they are interviewing. They might mistake a shake of the head, which might mean agreement, for disagreement.""

I find this quite disturbing. Are they South Asians or Scots? Do South Asians think or act differently from everybody else. Maybe it's me but if you changed a word here or there, this could have come off a BNP site.

Organisations like Semper are box-ticking exercises by the establishment and frankly they are doing more harm than good. Maybe if these police authorities were more representative of all the population then we wouldn't have these problems affecting non-white and white Scots.
40

Rob Royston,

Africa 06/11/2009 17:21:45
#30,

My IQ is probably a lot higher than yours and I would not expect to see anything else on Yahoo Home Page. The difference is I make up my own mind, at the moment I have only seen press reports, and we know how truthful they can be.

Did no one ever tell you the old Scots saying, "Believe nothing you hear and half of what you see".
41

Davy,

a free thinker 06/11/2009 17:25:44
#39 Scottish Stoic
Quality comment, so you are all for the Idea of employing Ugandans in her Majesties constabulary Scottish division. The mind of a free thinker should be respected. The green's & the liberals will treat you as a god.
42

It's life but not as we know it,

The Oort Clouds 06/11/2009 17:53:58
Good. The last thing we want is minorities with grudges joining our police and then butchering them like in Afghanistan.
43

Douglas,

Bathgate 06/11/2009 23:32:37
#30 common sense voice: Appearances can be deceptive.
For example, you come across as a computer illiterate bigot with a daytime drinking habit but I'm sure I'm wrong.

 

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