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Patient 'removed' from waiting list to meet target



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Published Date: 31 January 2008
A LOTHIAN woman was told she was being taken off a consultant's waiting list so the target 18-week waiting time for treatment could be met, it was claimed today.
Liberal Democrat leader Nicol Stephen today used the case as an example of what he said was a "shocking and scandalous situation".

First Minister Alex Salmond said both he and his health secretary Nicola Sturgeon would look into the matter.

Mr
Stephen raised the issue with the First Minister the day after Ms Sturgeon announced all Scotland's health boards have hit their waiting-time targets.

The health secretary said yesterday progress reports suggested that by the end of December all health boards had delivered on their targets – including no patient waiting more than 18 weeks for inpatient or day-case treatment.

But at First Minister's Questions Mr Stephen said a patient - a middle-aged woman from Midlothian - had received a letter informing her that she was being removed from a consultant's waiting list in a bid to meet the 18-week target.

He said the woman, who was waiting to have liposuction at Ninewells Hospital in Dundee for a condition which causes fatty deposits to build up on the legs, had been told by the doctor: "I am afraid I am writing to inform you of some bad news.

"I have been instructed by hospital management to remove your name from my waiting list. The prime reason for this decision relates to the 18-week target for patient treatment which is now in enforcement.

"I currently have a significant number of patients in breach of this and the simple solution by management is to reduce my waiting lists by removing patients' names."

Mr Stephen hit out: "This is a shocking and scandalous situation – achieving the First Minister's targets by dumping patients off the list."

And he asked the First Minister: "Will he promise to end this manipulation of the figures and ensure that those patients who have been devastated by letters like this now receive treatment from his government."

Mr Salmond said he and Ms Sturgeon would be "delighted" to look into the case.

And he said they would "deal with anything that affects that individual patient that might have been wrongly done".

The First Minister told Mr Stephen they would take action when they received details of the case.

"He supplies us with the details and we will take the effective action that this government is known for and his government was notably absent in taking," Mr Salmond said.

A Scottish Government spokesman said later that the letter had been sent in December, before the abolition of hidden waiting lists on January 1.

And he claimed it was an example of the practice of moving people off the main waiting list that was allowed under the system inherited from the previous administration.

The spokesman confirmed Ms Sturgeon will now contact the health boards involved to discover the specific circumstances of the case.




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  • Last Updated: 31 January 2008 4:50 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Health of the NHS , Midlothian
 
1

subrosa,

31/01/2008 17:24:48
Tayside Health Board ought to be severely reprimanded for this and I'm sure they will be. How can it be a victory for the libdems when the government has been lied to by health boards?

Now, if they HAD been told and taken no action, say within 7 days, then that would be a victory.
2

Transparent?,

Scotland 31/01/2008 17:39:43
The SNP solution to NHS waiting times is ... shoot the patients.

Brilliant! Why didn't I think of that?
3

Gorgie_Tony,

Edinburgh 31/01/2008 17:46:15
Another example of how the SNP are lying to us. Loud mouth Sturgeon created this mess - get her out. Roll on the next election and its cheerio SNP!
4

D Fiasco,

Borders 31/01/2008 20:05:00
Following this logic, perhaps the SNP can reduce traffic in Edinburgh by barracading cars at the city limits.
5

Alfie Bett,

31/01/2008 20:24:57
attention #2,3&4 the doofus triplets

Update:
Health Secretary Nicola Sturgeon is contacting NHS Tayside - and the health board where the woman lives.
She says that the case dates from the 21st of December - that is, before strict new rules abolishing “hidden waiting lists” were introduced.
In other words, Tayside would not be able to take such a decision now.
Further update
As billed, Nicola Sturgeon contacted NHS Tayside. She says the problem wasn’t waiting lists - but failure to agree a funding deal over the case between Tayside and the woman’s home health board, Lothian.
The good news is that the woman has now been promised treatment for her condition.
Indeed, Tayside go further. They say that those patients (plural) dropped from Mr Munnoch’s list will be treated, in Tayside. He is the only surgeon in the UK conducting the particular procedure involved.
As for the consultant, he has now “apologised unreservedly” for any suggestion that patients were removed from the list to meet targets.
It now appears that, contrary to the previous impression, he was “under no pressure from managers in Tayside”.
So that’s OK then.
Final update
Interviewed Nicola Sturgeon about her direct intervention in the Tayside case. Her voice was notably hoarse.
Suppose that’s what happens when you spend the afternoon shouting at health boards.

Lunchtime government informed of this disgraceful state of affairs caused by the Lab/Lib executive policies
Teatime.... sorted......only with the SNP!!
6

Rasco,

Inverness 31/01/2008 20:28:30
#3 Read the follow up on this Nicol story at least the SNP have acted today on this and as I said before Election bring it on man.
7

Stephen fae Scotland,

SF & Edin 31/01/2008 20:42:06
How innovative of the SNP! Solve patient waitinglists by eliminating the patients! Next: solve homelessness by killing the homeless, solve poverty by killing the poor, solve racism by eliminating the minorities... this kind of far thinking by the Nationalists (tinged with Socialists) seems to be ringing a bell... can't quite recall where this came up before...
8

Alfie Bett,

31/01/2008 20:50:10
#7 Keep up to date! before you embarrass yourself further
9

Stephen fae Scotland,

SF & Edin 31/01/2008 21:15:10
How funny - the SNP has its apologists fill up the comment section with 'damage control' to trivialize the trauma caused to an individual with a real ailment - a person that has to become a news item and a feature in Scottish Questiontime before her case is addressed - and it is me that is supposed to be embarrassed? I think not Alfie.

If you can only call people 'doofis triplets' or worse then when you disagree with their point then others are entitled to name call you too. I will refrain from calling you the eejit you so clearly are... because I am clearly above such name calling.

As for Lunchtime and teatime?? I think you missed the grub and went straight for the SNP cool-aid!
10

Dr Finlay,

Tannochbrae 31/01/2008 21:32:33
This is the sort of crazy decision-making that results when politicians impose targets based solely on vote winning rather than clinical need. What was the urgent medical need here? This poor woman has a problem that probably took many years to develop, was stable and non-life threatening but, because the surgeon had only 18 weeks to work with, was "managed" off the list.

Don't blame the mangerers or the surgeon - they were almost certainly trying to find a way to treat people with conditions which were immediately necessary - blame the politicians who are manipulating the decisions of experienced doctors for their own electoral benefit!

The Scottish electorate need to wake up to the cynical manipulation of the NHS that is making health care a playground for political parties.
11

a proud doonhamer,

Dumfries 31/01/2008 22:00:18
10

Aye, who do they think they are?

In no way should the NHS be a playground for politicians. That is truly reprehensible.

After all, informed people would know that the NHS was reserved as a playground for doctors.

Politicians.. always sticking their nose in.
12

henrymanchester,

UK 31/01/2008 23:02:08
This just highlights how its no longer our NHS but the governments.

Same with GP's... we don't have doctors anymore but government doctors.

Shame on all those self serving MP's for destroying something that was once the envy of the world.
13

AJM,

31/01/2008 23:33:27
Just seen the section on Newsnight, AS was awful from the clip they played, NS needed to be a Nancy to his Ronald. Nicola's performance Newsnight, I give as a draw Nicol himself could not land the final punch, but she had clearly tried to put damage limitation in place, very crudely it appeared and she was on the back foot more than once.
Before you all SNP spinners jump in I think Nicola is the best MSP the SNP have got including your great leader. If you want to win the next election ditch AS now while you are ahead, for Nicola.
14

AJM,

31/01/2008 23:35:55
#10 Dr Finlay, just like History except this is playing with lives not former lives.
15

steve 1511,

aberdeen 01/02/2008 08:21:10
nicol stephen a buffoon who had HIDDEN lists when he shared power with labour,i pity the voters this clown represents
16

mrs p,

Edinburgh 01/02/2008 13:27:49
This would appear to have happend to me too. I have been "removed" from St John's Hospital waiting list and "refered" to The Royal Infirmary. I am still waiting for writted confirmation of this as I have had no communications for either hospital!!!! What is happening to our health service ??? I can only sympathise with the staff working for the NHS as unfortunately it is them who receive the phone calls from patients who have nowhere to escelate these issues to.
17

WKKB,

01/02/2008 14:03:09
A friend in Manchester was diagnosed with breast cancer and put on a waiting list - 18 months later she finally received a double mastectomy. At times I wonder if the waiting lists are designed to allow enough time for people to die so they (the government) won't have to pay for that patients treatment.
#16 working within the NHS I can see the solution is more simple than government would have us believe. Instead of putting £4 million into a tram system they should be paying for more Doctors to take up the patients that have been on waiting lists. If there were more Dr's and fewer managers the job could be done with ease. More Dr's available to treat patients = fewer patients waiting. We don't need a tram we need Doctors.
18

malmeg,

Boca Raton 23/02/2008 04:32:26
There are raging debates here in the US among the ex-Brit population about the NHS and whether it would be a good idea to have a similar single-payer health insurance plan in the US. This whole idea of waiting lists for treatment sure sounds scary and a bit like health care rationing. The latest story circulating in Florida is that Arab owned hospitals have been set up in Scotland, and that they are actually giving good service. Is this true? If it is, then this too is a bit scary.

 

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