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Palin guilty: now voters will judge



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Published Date: 12 October 2008
THE politically charged investigation into Alaska's Governor and vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin came to some stinging conclusions. But the true fallout, if any, might not come until Election Day.
A legislative investigator found Palin violated state ethics laws and abused her power by trying to have her former brother-in-law fired as a state trooper.

The next move may be at the ballot box. The legislative committee that released the report
late on Friday recommends no criminal investigation and has no authority to sanction Palin.

"It is out of the Legislative Council's hands. It goes to anyone's hands who got a copy or clicks the link on the web," said Democratic state Senator Kim Elton, the chairman of the committee that released the report.

If voters believe the report's finding and it tarnishes Palin's reputation as a champion for good government, that could hurt Republican presidential nominee John McCain in the final weeks of the race.

Palin made her first appearance after the report was published at a rally in Johnstown, Pennsylvania, yesterday. She didn't mention the report, but promised to "shake things up" if McCain is elected president.

The inquiry had looked into Palin's dismissal of Public Safety Commissioner Walter Monegan, who said he lost his job because he resisted pressure to fire a state trooper involved in a bitter divorce and custody battle with the governor's sister. Palin says Monegan was fired as part of a legitimate budget dispute. Stephen Branchflower, a retired prosecutor hired to conduct the investigation, said Monegan's firing was lawful. But the pressure Palin and her husband put on him was not, he said.

Under Alaskan law, it is up to the state's Personnel Board, not the Legislature, to decide whether Palin violated the ethics laws. If so, it must refer the matter to the Senate president for disciplinary action.

By the time that investigation is over, however, the election will be over. If Palin is the vice president-elect, the results will hardly matter. If she loses, she will have to address the board's findings at home.

Barack Obama's presidential campaign did not rush to comment on the report. Democratic Senator Hollis French, who oversaw the investigation, contributed to that perception when he said the report could provide an "October surprise" for the McCain campaign.

Elton said partisanship played no role in the report.

The report notes a few instances in which Palin pressed the case against trooper Mike Wooten, but it was her husband, Todd, who led the charge. Governor Palin knowingly "permitted Todd to use the Governor's office and the resources of the Governor's office, including access to state employees, to continue to contact subordinate state employees in an effort to find some way to get Trooper Wooten fired," Branchflower's report reads.

Wooten had been in hot water before Palin became governor over claims he illegally shot a moose and used a Taser on his stepson. The Palins said they feared for their safety after he made threats against them.





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  • Last Updated: 11 October 2008 9:53 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
 
1

D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

12/10/2008 01:26:56
Sarah Palin is truly a pit bull, a raging carnivore, fueled by ignorance, racial hatred and pure ego.

She is a very dark soul -

She is doing great harm to McCain and all citizens of this damaged country. Her exterior hides her true divisive evil within, presenting herself at a most vulnerable moment in our country, a time when we all need to work together.

She kicks us all when we're down and offers nothing but lies and hatred as an antidote to our problems. Even McCain can no longer control her.

She appeals to the darkest forces within us, our fears, our demons, our inadaquacies and leads the cheer for the ancient devils that we have tried to dispel over the centuries. She conjures up images of terrorists, "evil-doers" and all of those boogy-men
from our childhood, all in one campaign !

John McCain has made a pact with the devil herself and now she OWNS HIS SOUL!
2

Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 12/10/2008 02:04:45
She is guilty of nothing more than wanting to put the people who are in her gov't in the position SHE wants them in. No different than any other state, no different than the position of President who wants to fill his cabinet with people he wants.
This is nothing more than Democratic ploy to take their minds off Rezko, Ayers, Acorn and Rev. Wright.
They all agreed SHE BROKE NO LAWS.
3

ttony,

rochester hills mi 12/10/2008 02:06:53
palins a rightwing tool
4

Dunnie,

Canada 12/10/2008 02:25:37

Once again, we have Yanks debating their shortcomings on foreign web sites.

Listen folks, take it elsewhere. We don't care.
5

Rob Bennett,

Point Piper Australia IMF Ranking 4th 12/10/2008 02:53:55
Sarah Palin is guilty of being a total bimbo with the pedigree of a moose

Barack 'THE MAN' Obama is annihilating her and John Geriatric McCain and sending them off with their tails tucked between their legs.

How good is that?
6

SouthernGent,

12/10/2008 02:57:23
#4
www stands for world wide web. Once released to the www, it is no longer "local". There is a difference between "internet" and "intranet".
7

Dunnie,

Canada 12/10/2008 03:33:45

You fail to see the point. Why do you Yanks feel compelled to debate your differences with such bile and vitriol on, curiously, a Scottish www site? And by the way, this is not the first time it has happened on these threads.

Please take your parochial differences elsewhere. Your presidential campaign exhibits some of the worst traits of your political system and society.

Don't like the comments- then don't post.
8

Let's have the truth,

Queensland 12/10/2008 04:00:17
"Palin guilty: now voters will judge"

The voters that matter judged long before the result of this investigation. She has shown herself to be an unsuitable person to be anywhere near a decision making process.
9

Let's have the truth,

Queensland 12/10/2008 04:03:18
#4 Dunnie,Canada

"Once again, we have Yanks debating their shortcomings on foreign web sites".

It's not only yanks debating their shortcomings here, people from across the globe are doing it.
10

Dunnie,

Canada 12/10/2008 04:16:34


9 - Land down under - once again, I will repeat my initial observation. Initially, we only had Yanks washing their rather dirty laundry on a foregin www.site. I made the observation that this was curious and the personal plea that they take it elsewhere.

I am well aware that many people across the world share in this view.

I only hope our southern cousins focus their efforts on their own www sites to settle their differences.

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Postmark-55,

China, 12/10/2008 04:54:33
#2 Lynne,
Sarah Palin has been found guilty of violating state ethic laws, so yes, she is guilty of something.
Those ethic laws are there for a reason and she broke them. Politicians need to set good examples, but most thumb their noses at the law thinking that they are above and beyond it all. If she wants to fill positions with people she wants in power, then she needs to make sure this gets done without breaking ANY laws. This also applies to when she wants people removed from positions of power, there are laws and rules to abide by, she broke them.
12

SouthernGent,

12/10/2008 05:19:12
#7
"You fail to see the point. Why do you Yanks feel compelled to debate your differences with such bile and vitriol "

That is a good question for ALL posters. I find it interesting that too many people today can't debate issues without making personal attacks. Many are unable to post facts to back up opinions and resort to unpleasantries to cover their deficiences. I look at these sites as a way of rational debate outside my local environment. Its a wonderful way to "view" the world.

Too bad many have to ruin it with pumped up bloviating.
13

Let's have the truth,

Queensland 12/10/2008 05:28:40
#12 SouthernGent

"I find it interesting that too many people today can't debate issues without making personal attacks".

You should direct that to the unholy rabble that are brainwashed at the McCain/Palin rallies.
14

SouthernGent,

12/10/2008 05:31:18
#13
Why do you insist on directing it to a particular group, vs any and all that may be guilty of the habit.
15

Anton,

Porto Sant'Elpidio 12/10/2008 07:33:39
Dunnie, what's the problem? People posting here are all readers of the Scotsman and as such they are entitled exactly the same as you are to expose their views in this forum. You can agree or disagree, but frankly your suggestion that they take it elsewhere is quite off the mark.
16

Rob Bennett,

Point Piper Australia - God's Country 12/10/2008 09:07:44
Palin probably doesn't give a flying raspberry about being John McCain's VP. She has ulterior motives.

Palin wants to be the republican party nominee for President in 2012, however her chances are becoming slimmer by the day.

Instead, she's become the world's number one bimbo with Carolyn running a close second. Obama will undoubtedly be the US president until 2016 leaving Palin to terrorise moose for another 8 years while peering at Russia through her binoculars.
17

Guga II,

Rockall 12/10/2008 11:23:08
#2 Lynne.

Abuse of power is abuse of power. Are you quite happy for politicians in a so-called democratic society to be abusing their power?

Incidentally, how do you feel about the Republican supporters, at a Republican meeting with McCain, who were calling for Obama to be killed? Do you agree with them too?
18

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 12/10/2008 13:13:15
# 2 Lynne from Palm Beach Gardens

Wake up and smell the coffe, woman.

Sarah Palin is a trailer-trash bitch and with her morals and ethics - as evidenced by the ruling by the judge - she is not fit to pass judgment even at a mongrel dog show.

Lynne, just what planet are you broadcasting from and why can't you face facts and realise that STUPID Sarah is a discredited Vice-Presidential candidate.

She even makes Richard Nixon appear to have been a saint.
19

Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 12/10/2008 14:48:11
I've seen stats published on internet about who reads Scotsman on-line. About 25% of the computers looking at Scotsman on-line are in USA. and about 57% are in UK.

concerning Palin, this ruling is no surprise. At the time she was selected it was obvious that she was guilty of breaking the Alaska laws in this matter. Local media up in Alaska investigated it and proved that to the Alaskans. then they did a poll in Alaska and 87% of the people said that Palin lied to everyone concerning her efforts to get wooten fired.

Alaska state law says the police commissioner gets to decide which officers are fit and which are not, it is set up to protect them from political tampering. and palin didn't stick with the law.

But shortly after she was selected we noticed that she has an incredible propensity to fire anyone that she doesn't think is waving a flag for Palin. There was the gentleman in her office that she was old friends with, had known him almost 30 years, he was fired by Palin simply because he was having a relationship with a woman that Palin didn't want him to have a relationship with (she was getting a divorce). and then there was the librarian who tried to explain to palin upon her becoming mayor of Wasilla that you don't just go and ban books, and Palin threatened to fire that librarian. she did fire that librarian and then brought her back under public criticism. this is part of Palin's pattern. she fires a lot of people, whoever she perceives is not goose-stepping for her well enough.

it is also peculiar that she says she's a conservative republican and yet she's been always seeking government handouts. don't forget the dairy farmer subsidies. the majority of state legislators in both parties were against them, including almost all of her fellow republicans, she fired an entire commission of people because they wouldn't agree with her, then she hired a 2'nd commission of people who still disagreed with her and she was threatening t
20

Wally,

By The Rivers of babylon (USA) 12/10/2008 14:52:55
follow-up; she fired the 1'st commission because they didn't agree, then she threatened to fire the 2'nd commission as well. but almost the entire legislature was against her on that as well, so the 2'nd commission were allowed to keep their jobs. and she went to this great length because she wanted to subsidize some dairy farmers with state money? Then she says she's a conservative? You can't take her seriously.

she comes to power by accusing others of corruption. and then the contractors she hired for state work also build her private vacation house for free - I posted a link on that recently. It was obvious in the beginning that she was a bad choice for VP. thats why some people think the fix is in to elect obama.
21

Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 12/10/2008 14:57:31
did you know she fired Monegan's replacement even? First she fired the police commissioner because he wouldn't fire her brother-in-law. then she hired a new commissioner and within 2 weeks she fired him. his mistake - he hugged a female employee about 3 years ago where he worked, one incident only, but the female employee complained and this created a controversy and Palin fired him basically because Palin's research didn't identify the controversy. she didn't find out about the 'incident' until after he was on the job and fired him. and Monegan who'd been with the state's police force for almost 20 years got no pension at all and no severence pay. but the new guy who'd only been there for 2 weeks did get severence pay. and that was strictly Palin's choice to do that. all palin does is promote herself. and people who don't help her are in her way.
22

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12/10/2008 15:09:06
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steve's here,

very much east and south of the majority of canada 12/10/2008 15:34:13
Dunnie, post what you like from where you like. Some of us find American politics very entertaining. It's nice to hear view points from the world at large. Last i checked this it IS the international section. Although, i wish there were more people posting...same posters, same point of view over and over. On topic, in my humble opinion, this women is a nutter and she is fast becomming a joke even in the US.
24

Media 1,

cape town 12/10/2008 15:56:50
Forget Palin - The Republican party has bigger questions to answer to.

For instance.

Where exactly have they hidden Bin Laden and how much does it cost them to keep him hidden?
25

D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

12/10/2008 16:20:50

Kudos to McCain for publicly acknowledging
Obama's suitability for the presidency. Angry crowds are ugly from all sides.

I believe McCain recognizes that he cannot win and would prefer to be thought of as a gentlemen, after his long, respectable career. Hopefully, he will now put the "hockey-puck" back in the box forever.
26

Pilrig,

Livingston 12/10/2008 17:46:01
SP = naughty, naughty, very naughty !

Librarians of the US, celebrate !
27

Pilrig,

Livingston 12/10/2008 17:48:41
7 oh leave 'em alone, surely you don't mind the rest of the world intruding on private hilarity ? sorry I meant grief !
28

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12/10/2008 18:26:08
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Golly,

12/10/2008 19:39:06
29 TimW1234

I have not given Palin much attention but she must be keen with the American public if radicals like yourself and others on this thread keep using such insidious language about her. I think you and your ilk should tone it down on these threads. There is a polite way to disagree and you certainly do not know the term polite.
30

Matt there,

Somewhere 12/10/2008 20:26:43
If McCain is this inept in selecting his VP candidate, how good would he be as president?
31

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12/10/2008 20:31:21
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Long Black Veil,

New York 12/10/2008 21:19:17
Agree with #2

This is all a media plot to draw attention away from those aspects of his career for which Obama should be tried at least in the press: his racist affiliations with Reverend Wright, his loud-mouth wife who uses words like "whitey," and his ties to terrorists who have a history of bombing U.S. national security institutions.
What Sarah Palin has done in her career pales beside that of Barack "Osama." Those who are stupid enough to believe that by voting against McCain they are going to solve the country's problems or change anything for the positive, will in the end get everything they deserve.
33

D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

12/10/2008 21:27:06

I can only imagine how the political anomaly of
Sarah Palin will be dealt with in US history books.

Will kids view her Katy Couric interview on the accompanying CD ? Will they see the Tina Fey impersonations and not be able to tell who is who ?
Will the name "Sarah" now be the substute for "DUH?"

Not to be unduly cruel, but the fact is that our presidential election was NOT intended to be the "Special Olympics" of the political process.

The poor woman was deceived right from the start and convinced that she actually qualified for the VP spot.

She deserves an "A" for effort and an "A" for best comedic performance in a starring role. How sad for her and her family that she has made a mockery of
a woman's role in government, that her name will be forever synonymous with common ignorance, intolerance and false bravado.

"Better to be a foolish wit than a witless fool."

( Feste / Twelfth Night )

34

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 13/10/2008 00:19:33
30 Golly

I am the most polite and gentlemanly person you can ever expect to meet but when it comes to women like Sarah Palin - by NO stretch of the imagination is she a "lady" - I can be as vicious as the next person or some of the other posters on this thread.

That woman has lied, been found guilty of subverting state laws, changed her policies as often as her makeup and hairstyles, and has the worst lack of brains of any Vice-Presidential candidate in the history of American politics.

For those reasons she does not deserve any sort of politeness from Americans or those who disagree with her wacky ways. She is a political nonentity.
35

SouthernGent,

13/10/2008 01:55:42
#35
The measure of a man is how they equate themselves to people of lesser character. Are you one to take the high road at all times, or lower yourself to the very same level that you say you dspise. You seem to prefer the later.
36

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13/10/2008 02:52:12
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weeshooie1,

Wollongong 13/10/2008 04:11:55
From Neil Young's "Living With War" site:

MY HOLIDAY WITH JOHN McCAIN

(This shocking account was written by Ana Dubey, who has a PhD in psychology and has a private practice in San Francisco. Ana's husband is currently a Managing Director of a private equity firm in the Bay Area. Ana and her husband are not political activists and don't have any personal ax to grind. In fact, in writing this account of her experience with John McCain, Ana is acting outside of her own economic self-interest as she and her husband are among the top 3-5% of our population who would benefit from the McCain tax/economic policies.)

It was just before John McCain's last run at the presidential nomination in 2000 that my husband and I vacationed in Turtle Island in Fiji with John McCain, Cindy, and their children, including Bridget (their adopted Bangladeshi child).

It was not our intention, but it was our misfortune to be in close quarters with John McCain for almost a week, since Turtle Island has a small number of bungalows and their focus on communal meals force all vacationers who are there at the same time to get to know each other intimately. He arrived at our first group meal and started reading quotes from a pile of William Faulkner books with a forest of Post-Its sticking out of them. As an English Literature major myself, my first thought was "if he likes this so much, why hasn't he memorized any of this yet?" I soon realized that McCain actually thought we had come on vacation to be a volunteer audience for his "readings" which then became a regular part of each meal. Out of politeness, none of the vacationers initially protested at this intrusion into their blissful holiday, but people's buttons definitely got pushed as the readings continued day after day.
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weeshooie1,

Wollongong 13/10/2008 04:14:03
Continued from above:

Unfortunately this was not his only contribution to our mealtime entertainment. He waxed on during one meal about how Indo-Chine women had the best figures and that our American corn-fed women just couldn't meet up to this standard. He also made it a point that all of us should stop Cindy from having dessert as her weight was too high and made a few comments to Amy, the 25 year old wife of the honeymooning couple from Nebraska that she should eat less as she needed to lose weight. McCain's appreciation of the beauty of Asian women was so great that David the American economist had to move his Thai wife to the other side of the table from McCain as McCain kept aggressively flirting with and touching her.

Needless to say I was irritated at his large ego and his rude behavior towards his wife and other women, but decided he must have some redeeming qualities as he had adopted a handicapped child from Bangladesh. I asked him about this one day, and his response was shocking: "Oh, that was Cindy's idea - I didn't have anything to do with it. She just went and adopted this thing without even asking me. You can't imagine how people stare when I wheel this ugly, black thing around in a shopping cart in Arizona. No, it wasn't my idea at all."

I actively avoided McCain after that, but unfortunately one day he engaged me in a political discussion which soon got us on the topic of the active US bombing of Iraq at that time. I was shocked when he said, "If I was in charge, I would nuke Iraq to teach them a lesson." Given McCain's personal experience with the horrors of war, I had expected a more balanced point of view. I commented on the tragic consequences of the nuclear attacks on Japan during WWII - but no, he was not to be dissuaded. He went on to say that if it was up to him he would have dropped many more nuclear bombs on Japan. I rapidly extricated myself from this conversation as I could tell that his experience being tortured as a POW di
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TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 13/10/2008 10:02:16
36 SouthernGent

Come, come SG.

You take the "high ride" so often in these threads that I wonder if you suffer from altitude sickness.

Politics and the the discussion of such are always volatile and especially during these dire and worldwide economic times.

I am known for my outspokenness and am never obscene or offensive to minorities or those of differing race, colour, or creed.

But, that Palin woman just makes me want to puke.
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SouthernGent,

13/10/2008 14:42:11
Have you ever met the women? I haven't. There are no two people on this planet alike. We all differ in some form or fashion, and in the end most of us want the same thing. Tolerance is a virtue. If you believe in tolerance, then practice what you preach. Just because others do it does not make it right.
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Great Scott.,

Clearbrook Vancouver 13/10/2008 18:18:37
Palin says Monegan was fired as part of a legitimate budget dispute. Stephen Branchflower, a retired prosecutor hired to conduct the investigation, said Monegan's firing was lawful. But the pressure Palin and her husband put on him was not, he said.

This is a good example of 'political double speak.'
Of course anybody who is about to be fired will complain of pressure,and the convenient excuse it was related to Trooper Wootton.
What the editorial article does not mention is that the allegation is Trooper Wotten,drank while on duty in his squad car,tazered his ten year old son,and telephoned a threat to 'kill' his wife's father.
Any of these violations are reason enough to be fired,as they are gross violation of a State Troopers ethical obligations.

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Great Scott.,

Clearbrook Vancouver 13/10/2008 18:28:25
"Does the Troopergate Report Expose Sarah Palin as a Vengeful Person?"

Scotsman Editor,this is a disgraceful link to be on the website of a Leading Scots Newspaper.It is malicious propaganda and has no place,unless of course your name is Reisfuhrer Goebells.


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American,

13/10/2008 20:09:20
He tazered his 11 year old stepson. After listening to a left-wing lawyer and a right-wing lawyer, they both had to agree that she did not break the law!!
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57Nomad,

california 13/10/2008 22:22:36
Sarah Palin fired the trooped because he had tortured a 10 year old boy with a Taser.

 

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