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Published Date: 15 April 2008
MORE than 50,000 Scots may be unable to count or do simple sums because of an undiagnosed learning difficulty, The Scotsman can reveal.
Academics believe as much as 5 per cent of the population may have some degree of dyscalculia, which affects the ability to count and understand numbers.

It means they struggle with simple tasks such as checking their change in a shop, writing do
wn a telephone number or even telling the time.

Experts and business leaders warn the effects of dyscalculia are costing firms billions and potentially costing individuals their future as they struggle to find jobs which don't require basic numeracy.

Growing numbers of concerned parents have been contacting the British Dyslexia Association for help and advice, but teachers say there is still little in place to help those suspected of having the condition.

Dr Steve Chinn, a specialist and author of Dealing with Dyscalculia, said it was accepted that maths difficulties were rife. He said: "

You can get people who are very bad at maths but superb at English, so it is specific in that it attacks a particular skill.

"There have been very few studies – but five per cent affected seems to be what the research says."

He believes dyscalculia is in the same position as dyslexia 30 years ago before it was widely accepted and diagnosed.

He said: "People are much more concerned about literacy than they are about numeracy.

"You can sit round a dinner table and say, 'I can't do maths', but you can't say, 'I can't read'.

"Literacy has a priority that maths will never have."

He says maths teaching is too focused on rote learning, which puts too much strain on short-term memory, and should be based more on understanding.

He is creating a diagnostic package with a psychology colleague at the University of Surrey which they hope to develop within 12-18 months.

Professor Brian Butterworth of the Institute of Cognitive Neuroscience at University College London is the author of the current definitive screening test used in the UK.

He believes international studies indicate the figure could be even higher, with 6.5 per cent of people affected and he called for widespread screening.

He warned: "In terms of employment prospects low numeracy is more often a handicap than low literacy."

Iain Ferguson, policy executive for CBI Scotland, backed that claim. He said: "Scottish businesses are losing £2 billion a year on what can only be described as remedial education.

"Numeracy is a key core skill for many companies, and some of our members are angry that they spend a disproportionate amount of their training budgets on basic numeracy."

The Scottish Government has expanded adult literacy and numeracy programmes.

Since 2001, when 15,000 people sought help with basic skills, numbers have risen dramatically to 200,000.

'I realised I had a severe problem'

PAUL Moorcraft, 60, is director of an independent think tank on conflict resolution based in London and has been diagnosed with dyscalculia.

He is a former war reporter, established author and a visiting lecturer on foreign relations at several universities but struggles with basic sums.

The former senior instructor at the Royal Military Academy, Sandhurst, said: "I can't count. I've always been aware of it and I used to try and work out why.

"Growing up in South Wales I used to wonder why I couldn't do maths because I was good at other subjects. Of course my teachers just thought I was lazy at maths.

"I used to think my Welsh wasn't very good because my teachers were Welsh speaking and I spoke largely English at home.

"But I realised I had a severe problem. I only got maths O-level otherwise I wouldn't have gone to university.

"Geometry was shapes and I could do that, but I always had problems. When I worked in the Ministry of Defence the offices had security codes, but I couldn't remember any numbers.

"You could give me a million pounds and ask me to remember your phone number and I couldn't do it.

"I just simply can't read or describe numbers which is a real problem, but you couldn't admit to people that you can't count."

He said he decided to go public about his problem because he didn't want children to be stigmatised or feel they are stupid.

He said: "I've had a very varied and interesting life, I've studied at six universities, taught full-time at ten, yet I can hardly read a timetable and I can't write down a series of numbers."



The full article contains 769 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 14 April 2008 10:25 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Hen Mc Stoorie,

Port William 15/04/2008 00:14:43
MORE than 50,000 Scots may be unable to count or do simple sums because of an undiagnosed learning difficulty, The Scotsman can reveal.


AM2
ALBERT E NUEMAN
GRAHAMSKI
NIKO
ENTIRE LABOUR PARTY
ENTIRE TORY PARTY
ALL UNIONISTS
2

Conan the Librarian™,

15/04/2008 00:19:51
1
You missed Highland Mighty :-)
3

Hen Mc Stoorie,

Port William 15/04/2008 00:40:51
AM2
ALBERT E NUEMAN
GRAHAMSKI
NIKO
ENTIRE LABOUR PARTY
ENTIRE TORY PARTY
ALL UNIONISTS
HIGHLAND MIGHTY
4

karinxxx,

15/04/2008 00:45:32
hen

i think your on to something there so if we can get them help with their discalculia then we may be able to cure them of their unionism.

5

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 15/04/2008 00:54:03
"Ah Grasshopper, you have much to learn"!..(#1/2)

But being serious, it neither funny or something to joke about!

"Learning-Disabilities"

Bring a total feeling of inadequacies in a person that can be, or is really clever,
How do you think they feel being constantly 'put-down' everyday,?

It is NOT nice or acceptable!

Don't start me on this subject, because I know loads about it, as in 'Closest to my Heart' the one I Love!
6

Conan the Librarian™,

15/04/2008 00:56:22
4
Are you suggesting a use for sharp knives Karin?
7

Conan the Librarian™,

15/04/2008 01:01:22
"I've had a very varied and interesting life, I've studied at six universities, taught full-time at ten"

Is he sure?
8

Hen Mc Stoorie,

Port William 15/04/2008 01:01:25
Charles.
I dont think you will like my post on the oil find in Brazil either..........ooops
9

Conan the Librarian™,

15/04/2008 01:03:09
5
Boy Wonder?
10

Hen Mc Stoorie,

Port William 15/04/2008 01:05:25
KARINXXX
The SNP CAN do the impossible...Miracles take a little longer
11

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 15/04/2008 01:11:22
#10 Conan the Librarian™,

"Boy Wonder?" IS the Scotsman News Boy Wonder!

Certainly I am NOT Him!

And he can be,..'A Pain in the Butt'! :-)
12

Conan the Librarian™,

15/04/2008 01:15:35
14
LOL
13

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 15/04/2008 01:16:18
Conan, looks like a bit of,,'Cross-Talk'

YES, BW, "Has much to Learn' :-))
14

Conan the Librarian™,

15/04/2008 01:23:30
16
Master Khan where are you now...?
15

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 15/04/2008 01:46:43
Conan the Librarian™, #17,

Gonna Bed! gotta run my DYW to work in the morning.
16

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 15/04/2008 01:47:04
:-DD
17

donald,

glasgow 15/04/2008 07:40:26
Really, Labour can coont their expenses and donations up to £999. Or is it £9,999. Dial 999 if not sure, of if 999 coppers are not out on the street.
18

Alfred E. Neuman,

15/04/2008 08:06:22
They called it being "thick" when I was at School. It effected people like at posts 4 and 6.
19

Alfred E. Neuman,

15/04/2008 08:06:36
Sorry that should read 5 and 7.
20

Alfred E. Neuman,

15/04/2008 08:07:03
Wait the noo, 1 and 3. Hen Mc Blah, yes that's right, people like that it effects.
21

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 15/04/2008 08:13:01
Alfred @#23,

'HOY' BOY!!

Dinny get smart with me!
22

Conan the Librarian™,

15/04/2008 08:18:15
25
Ignore him Charles.He's MAD.
23

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 15/04/2008 08:31:53
Goodmorning Conan, don't worry I will,

BTW, I know I joke about a little, but this subject is quite serious really, DYW suffers a little from,

"dyscalculia"

IT may be OK for us,(being OK) if you don't understand the condition, but I feel Soo sorry for her at times,

Its 'Heartbreaking'!
24

McX,

15/04/2008 09:25:55
dyscalculia = made up name for stupid.
25

Alfred E. Neuman,

15/04/2008 09:59:42
Don't you mean 3 in 1 Scots have dyscalculia?

Dsylexics rlue ko
26

dido-bendigo,

Scotland 15/04/2008 10:23:37
Will Poole, journalist, wrote about this condition in his articles in The Telegraph at least ten years ago. His son was diagnosed with it, Will then realised why as a student he couldn't master maths and so became a journalist. His article came as a great comfort to others who could not understand why they were poor at calculation. Many dyscalculitics are good at written English (British) and can spell. I assume many of the contributors to these comment pages (and many Americans)are excellent calculators?
27

Alfred E. Neuman,

15/04/2008 10:24:39
3,356 The Genuine Mario

Me three, um, me two, I lost count, and then stopped going, the course materials just didn't add up and I the intructor was short changing me (i think), but how can I check.

Some people are just thick, it's part of life, give them wood-working, joinery, plumbing or electrical skills. There is no shame in not becoming a rocket scientist because the UK has no space programme or satelites!
28

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15/04/2008 10:27:13
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29

Marcus Fenix,

The Valley 15/04/2008 10:32:16
There I was walking down the street the other day when I bumped into Four. Goddammed number blindness!
30

Marcus Fenix,

The Valley 15/04/2008 10:35:45
#33

Alfie. Some Electricans are clever.

31

Fairfax,

15/04/2008 10:37:54
Alfred E. Neuman (33): "There is no shame in not becoming a rocket scientist because the UK has no space programme or satelites!"

That's not quite true. England has Astrium, a world leader in satellite technology, as well as the Surrey Space Centre, in Guildford, and the National Space Centre in Leicester. Your observation is correct for Scotland, however.
32

Guga II,

Rockall 15/04/2008 10:38:32
Many of them are just thick, as in two short planks.
33

Alfred E. Neuman,

15/04/2008 10:39:21
36 Marcus

I know that Marcus, the point I am trying to make is that there are different kinds of intelligence. We can't make everyone good at everything, so let's stop inventing words and excuses and accept everyone has talents and weaknesses and start playing to the talents for a change.

I, for one, excel in advanced maths/physics but can't spell for toffee.
34

Fairfax,

15/04/2008 10:43:46
Article: "He says maths teaching is too focused on rote learning, which puts too much strain on short-term memory, and should be based more on understanding."

We've been here before. The SMP had a similar ambition in the 1960s and '70s -- in fact, the entire "New Math" movement attempted this. The effects seem to have been disappointing. In fact, with the loss of rote-learning, and the consequent diminishing fluency in multiplication tables, I would say that the result has been generally negative. Why not simply accept that a minority of the population has little mathematical ability?

Writing as a mathematician, I agree with the article that many people seem to enjoy confessing "I can't do maths!". It's tedious, but so what?
35

Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

15/04/2008 10:54:03
Did you hear the one about the constipated mathematician?.

He worked it oor wae a pencil....boom boom!
36

Number 6,

Germany 15/04/2008 11:38:59
#8 Good point. How does he know how many universities he's studied at, and taught at. That's very strange.

My handwriting's not the best, what's that called?
"I only got maths o-level" ,but he can't read a time table or remember a telephone number ?.

Sorry this sounds like a right load of garbage.Is there
a benefit payment that goes along with this "disability".
37

Alfred E. Neuman,

15/04/2008 13:35:06
45 clarry

You are symptomatic of the nutters running this country.

You say Einstein was dyslexic, I see, well, if had been British we'd have played to this weakness and tried to make him a playwrite.

That is my point. You play to people strengths if you want to succeed. The Great British education system just teaches grannies to suck eggs.

By the way, thick people can work-hard, what was you point? That you can compensate for being thick? No chance, you can as much do that as grow a new head.
38

Alfred E. Neuman,

15/04/2008 13:46:31
So you have a group of idiots who can't add up... here's an idea, let's spend £20,000,000,000 to teack them to add up.

What do you mean they have other talents that they want to pursue? They are disabled! Label them disabled, make them over come this disablility at once! No-one is different in this country!
39

Klaus Dubois,

Ed 15/04/2008 14:09:53
I don't doubt that such a condition exists; however, much like attention deficit disorder, I suspect this newly discovered syndrome will be exploited by lazy parents & children to avoid another responsibility.
40

yockel,

15/04/2008 14:23:26
#48 More likely some drug recently found unsuitable for whatever it was promoted for has been shown to be great at helping you count.
41

Fairfax,

15/04/2008 15:35:28
clarry (45): "Einstein was Dyslexic."

This seems to be an urban myth. See, for example,

http://www.audiblox2000.com/dyslexia_dyslexic/dyslexia005.htm
42

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 15/04/2008 16:43:10
WELL-SAID!...Clarry @#45,

I was not joking about Learning-needs, although judging on most of the remarks here, everyone seems to think its a,..'laughing matter'

'LEARNING-NEEDS'...IS NO LAUGHING MATTER!

What about our Children,?

They are not all perfect! would People just leave a Child to,..'get-on-with-it' if the Child had a 'Need'?

Thank God Some People care, enough to help them!
43

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15/04/2008 17:46:37
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44

.kimba.,

15/04/2008 21:39:16
oi fairfax...it's quite obvious no one gives a shyte what you think with your superior snooty english sarcasm you are supercillious and sneering and snottery now pis of theres a good chap..pip pip

 

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