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Published Date: 22 July 2009
BARACK Obama will tonight make a televised appeal to the Americans to save his floundering health reform plan in what Republicans are describing as the US president's Waterloo.
Health reform has been one of Mr Obama's top priorities, but Congress is baulking at the trillion-dollar cost of providing universal health coverage to all Americans.

Republicans say failure to force through legislation in time for the president's August deadline may cripple his presidency. "If we're able to stop Obama on this, it will be his Waterloo," said Republican Senator Jim De Mint. "It will break him."

Tonight's appeal, to be screened on all major news networks, is the fourth time in six months Mr Obama has sought to appeal, over the heads of Congress, directly to the public.

Mr Obama yesterday said critics of his reform bill were putting profits of health companies ahead of patients. "They would maintain a system that works for the insurance and drug companies but not for American families."

"This isn't about me," he said. "This isn't about politics. This is about a healthcare system that is breaking America's families."

With the White House pulling out all the stops to get the plan approved, First Lady Michelle Obama has begun touring America urging support for reform. "The current system is unsustainable and I don't have to tell any of you that," she said.

Americans pay twice as much for their healthcare, through private insurance, as the British, Canadians and French pay in tax through state-funded care systems – and these costs are continuing to rise.

"It puts a massive dent on your monthly budget," says Melissa Alonso, a New York corporate events producer.

Like millions of Americans, she cannot afford comprehensive health coverage, and her insurance premiums come with a £30-a-time surcharge for each visit to a doctor. She recently saw one prescription drug jump from £4 to £22 and says she would be in favour of state healthcare, if premiums fell. "I don't care who's providing the coverage, I just don't want to pay so much."

But attempts to dismantle a system that relies on private insurance and private hospitals and replace it with some form of state control are proving a political quagmire – despite the Democrats controlling both houses of Congress.

The House of Representatives last week agreed a so-called "millionaire's tax" – a surcharge on the better-off to pay for part of the $1.2 trillion (£732 billion) cost of providing cover for the 47 million uninsured Americans.

The Congressional Budget Office has announced that even with this surcharge, to be applied to Americans earning more than $250,000, the government would still face a multi-billion dollar bill to make up the difference.

And with the Senate refusing to endorse the plan as it stands, House leaders are having a re-think, leaving Mr Obama's 8 August deadline in peril.

Republican National Committee chairman Michael Steel accused Mr Obama of having a "socialist agenda" in seeking to pay for universal care by raising taxes on the rich and increasing government spending.

He said: "Mr President, you are putting your party's entire big-government wish list on America's credit card. But that card comes with a bill."

Supporters say the only solution to spiralling costs is universal health coverage: "There are too many people who can't get healthcare," said Pennsylvania governor Ed Rendell. "It's the No 1 priority."

But it is not just the ordinary people who are suffering. The government currently pays about half the country's medical costs, through Medicare and Medicaid health care for the elderly and bills are rising.


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  • Last Updated: 21 July 2009 9:57 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Barack Obama
 
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Wally,

by the rivers of babylon (USA) 22/07/2009 00:25:56
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14444

President Obama has morphed into a republican. When Obama categorically rejects the single-payer strategy he is deciding to have expensive health care and lots of uninsured at the same time. We spend 17-18% of gdp on health care. other advanced nations that give health insurance to all citizens do it for 8-10% of their gdp. Obama is choosing to continue this dysfunctional no-bid system where big money hospitals, insurance companies and health care corporations simply charge a ton of money with no cost control at all.

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Fifi la Bonbon,

22/07/2009 01:05:33
We Scots always appreciate it when people from the USA with an axe to grind come and offer us advice on what to think about your country.
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Finlang,

Hong Kong 22/07/2009 05:05:21
#2 Fifi

"We Scots always appreciate it when people from the USA with an axe to grind come and offer us advice on what to think about your country."

I don't always go eye-to-eye with you on some issues, but as a fellow Scot I'm with you on this one. It continues to perplex me that citizens, denizens or hangers-on of another country freely inflict their national woes or general gripes via this (Scottish) newspaper. Do they have no satisfactory domestic press on which to do so? (That's a rhetorical one by the way.)

I've paid sometimes over the odds for occasional minor health and dental care in the USA, in non-EU European countries, and in China. I accept that as a fact of life of how other countries operate their systems and dinna girn to their national press because of it.






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Jim A,

22/07/2009 06:02:55
I can't say that I have been following this that closely but given the the US now has over a one trillion dollar deficit I wonder where the money will come from to pay for this. Did the US already have it set aside?
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Jim A,

22/07/2009 06:16:35
I think some of the problem here is that a lot of Americans see it as socialist health care and unfortunately over there socialism is a dirty word in a lot of it's States. The Americans 'I think, wrongly associate socialism with communism.
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22/07/2009 06:20:00
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Finlang,

Hong Kong 22/07/2009 06:37:12
#7 Bret

You obviously missed the point of #2's post, and of my follow-up comment. We're not talking about freedom of speech per se, which is an accepted norm, but the propensity of some to use one organ outwith their own borders, for their outpouring, as they apparently have no other. Understand?

In the event of being unable to comprehend a simple and straightforward reply, YOU perhaps should stick to Oor Wullie or somesuch. (I declined a job with that lot many moons ago, and with no regrets).

The angry childish comic book references you cite seem to suggest the limit of your motivational driving force. You are in good company with the alien above. Unless, that is, you are actually his latest ID. Unsurprised if so.




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22/07/2009 06:59:16
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Finlang,

Hong Kong 22/07/2009 07:50:06
#13 The man of many IDs ...

So predictable ...

In the absence of logic and understanding you are the dumbest bummer on all of these forums. Sad paranoid being. Paranoia indeed is your preserve as has been significantly pointed out by other posters.

Your efforts to persecute will always fail as the only loser is yourself. I have a successful life. You do not, which is why you try to slam every sensible and sane post on here, mine or otherwise. Mine in particular, for your own sick reasons. Bullying me, or anyone, is a cheap skelp in the absence of sensible riposte. Everybody here knows that. You are a terminal failure. A fake "communist" terminal loser. Sad Canadian reject with nowhere to go but vent his putrid hatred on a virtual forum far from home. So sad.

Sensible Chinese people hate you with a passion. I know that for a fact, and have ample evidence to demonstrate. You are absoulutely loathed everywhere, here in HK, and on the mainland for your lunatic comments which reflect no opinions but your own sick voice.

Chinese people also have personal opinions and they are not the crâp you routinely trot out, thinly disguised by the bile you heap upon posters such as myself on this site. Realise it, stupid, and try to get a life outside your pathetic little box if possible.

In China you are recognised only as the twât you are for your terminal ignorance. My Chinese colleagues (important academic people, unlike you) know the score. Your card is marked, you fool. Advice: pack your bags for Canada if they will have you back, you loathsome troll. You are a shame and disgrace upon all decent people in China.

I hope to convey this to all decent posters in Scotland and furth. The monster who posts hate, personal and otherwise, here under a variety of monikers in no way represents the everyday normal and good people of China.













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paulr,

edinburgh 22/07/2009 08:10:23
I would not claim that politicians in this country are any better but the comments below

"If we're able to stop Obama on this, it will be his Waterloo," said Republican Senator Jim De Mint. "It will break him."

prove that american politicians do not give a damn about the people only about their own political agenda.
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paulr,

edinburgh 22/07/2009 08:12:11
As for #11
And what is wrong with Communism Jim?

Communism has been proved time and again to be a deeply flawed and corrupt political ideology.
Party officials live in luxury and excess while others struggle to survive. Any complaints are dealt with as dissident troublemaking.
How's that?
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NittonLover,

Newtongrange 22/07/2009 08:19:36
#17 - The system is not inherantly corrupt - its the people that make it so. Democracy is also "deeply flawed and corrupt" as well.

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Jim A,

22/07/2009 08:54:47
#17 Paul, my post at #10 I wasn't critisizing communism, rather I was trying to say that with past American paranoia of communism they tend to link socialism with communism without really understanding that they can be two different ways of life. A socialist country need be a communist country.
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Jim A,

22/07/2009 08:58:36
#18 NittonLover, "The system is not inherantly corrupt - its the people that make it so. Democracy is also "deeply flawed and corrupt" as well".

Yep I agree with you, take the American Constitution for example, a brilliant document in itself, then the politicians got their hands on it.
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Jim A,

22/07/2009 08:59:51
Ooops a mistake on my comment at #20, it should read at the end "A socialist country need not be a communist country".
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reincarnated,

Edinburgh 22/07/2009 09:23:22
I was admitted into a Taiwanese hospital but they wouldn't treat me as i didnt have Taipei blood.
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Carolyn 1,

Woods Hole, Massachusetts 22/07/2009 13:46:06

Jim @ 20
American paranoia of communism they tend to link socialism with communism without really understanding that they can be two different ways of life"


Americans know the difference between communism, socialism and capitalism. We know what communism is, and we don't want it. we know what socialism is and we don't want too much of that either. We are a center right country, live in a capitalism-based democracy and would like to keep it that way.

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Carolyn 1,

Woods Hole, Massachusetts 22/07/2009 13:55:16
it will be a cold day in hell when politicians take the politics out of government and get down to doing the people's work. This 'bill' is politics of pitting people against people and I, for one, fervently disapprove.


We do not want "socialized' health care" because we're Americans, we're damned independent and ornery about it. We want to make the decisions not have a big fat sloppy government pretend it's God and the Great Decider as to who gets what when and why.

Basically, to cover and pay for a small percentage of uninsured- those who are insured will lose the grace of full care in the late years of their life. The aging population is horrified that if they want a hip replacement for example, it will be denied. I think Obama's grandmother received a hip replacement in the last year of her life, which relieved her of pain. This would not have happened under the new "socialized coverage" because that money would have been better spent elsewhere.
Government is an inefficient bureaucracy that is too big fat sloppy to be judge and jury over medical choice.
That citizens know that and do not want to be under its knife is what is going to stop this bill from passing.

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Carolyn 1,

22/07/2009 14:10:52
Finlang @5
"We Scots always appreciate it when people from the
USA with an axe to grind come and offer us advice on what to think about your country."

I don't always go eye-to-eye with you on some issues, but as a fellow Scot I'm with you on this one. It continues to perplex me that citizens, denizens or hangers-on of another country freely inflict their national woes or general gripes via this (Scottish) newspaper.Do they have no satisfactory domestic press on which to do so? (That's a rhetorical one by the way.) "


Yes.
(Many papers here that allow comments, you have to use your real name, or they have it on file, so there is less of this nonsensical trolling and cyber-hate and red sea of deletions..) The ones that allow it do so for bucks.

I comment here because I think of Scotland as my second home and sometimes I miss it. Granted my comments are always deleted or asked to be deleted because you guys don't like Americans, but last I checked the Scotsman, although I don't agree with its politics all the time, still supports free speech.

If you don't approve, you should petition the Scotsman to restrict comments to Brits only.
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Flash Gordon,

22/07/2009 17:39:54
America is one of the few western countries in the world that don't have universal health care. Isn't that ironic?
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Carolyn 1,

22/07/2009 18:37:10
Wally @27
When I look at Scotsman on my computer I get American advertisements sometimes even local to my region."


um Wally, that's because google has your IP and knows where you live, tracks what you do on your computer, stores the information and then distributes ads to you based on that data.
If you went to quality news source like The Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, for example, there are no "google ads." I subscribe to the National Journal because there are no ads or partisan hackery or nutjobs reporting. Try it!
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Wally,

by the rivers of babylon (USA) 22/07/2009 19:17:12
I agree with Sandi in 28. her comment also highlights what I said in #1. that Obama in his opposition to single-payer is in reality going over to the republican camp on this issue. and he's already done so on other major issues. single-payer is a key. that is why when you look at Lendman's article I linked to in #1 he has such contempt for Obama. Lendman is a harvard educated liberal that is speaking with strong contempt towards Obama. the well-informed liberals are now either opposed to Obama or greatly disappointed. Today only the tv-watchers who are poorly informed support Obama. They may be a majority, but it says nothing for Obama.

Obama has not changed course on policies at all since bush was the president. there is only drama and fake opposition.
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Sandi,

San Diego 22/07/2009 23:13:49
Carolyn,

A citizen can only pick and choosefrom the few insurance companies and plans that his/her employer offers. An individual has an even smaller number from which to choose. Not that it makes a lot of difference because all of them limit your care in some way or another through the physicians, hospitals, procedures, medications that are either not on their preferred list or that they won't cover at all. Private insurance companies effectively control your health care choices to a far, far greater extent than a single-payer system would.
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