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Obama 'target of assassination plot' by two white supremacists



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Published Date: 28 October 2008
SECURITY concerns about the safety of Barack Obama are growing after US federal authorities yesterday charged two white supremacists with plotting to assassinate the Democratic presidential candidate.


Prosecutors in Tennessee charged the two men, Daniel Cowart, 20, and Paul Schlesselman, 18, with planning to kill Mr Obama as part of a "killing spree" targeting African Americans.

Both men were arrested following an abortive robbery last wee
k, after which authorities found details of their plot which included plans to shoot or decapitate 102 black children at a state high school.

The case follows the arrest of three white supremacists in late August near the Democratic National Convention in Denver, with weapons including a high powered sniper rifle they had planned to use to kill Mr Obama during his football stadium acceptance speech.

Jim Cavanaugh, a special agent with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, said the two men planned to rob a gun store, then target a predominantly African American high school, killing 88 and decapitating 14.

Mr Cavanaugh said: "They said that would be their last, final act – that they would attempt to kill Senator Obama. They didn't believe they would be able to do it, but that they would get killed trying."

He added that authorities took the threats very seriously. He said: "They seemed determined to do it. Even if they were just to try it, it would be a trail of tears around the South."

The court documents say the two men met about a month ago on the internet and found common ground in their shared "white power" and "skinhead" philosophy.

The records say Cowart and Schlesselman also bought nylon rope and ski masks to use in a robbery or home invasion to take money to finance their spree, during which they allegedly planned to go from state to state and kill people.

For the Obama plot, the legal documents show, Cowart and Schlesselman "planned to drive their vehicle as fast as they could toward Obama shooting at him from the windows". Both men stated they would dress in white tuxedos and wear top hats during the assassination attempt.

The arrests have put election officials across the country on edge amid fears that other groups may be plotting similar actions.

As with the August plotters, prosecutors say the Tennessee men communicated by e-mail and the search is on for further conspirators.

The charges came as both Mr Obama and the Republican presidential candidate, John McCain, held rallies to unveil their final appeals to voters with the election now a week away.

Security has long been an issue with Mr Obama, who has had Secret Service protection for more than a year, much longer than other candidates.

Prosecutors say the two men appeared to lack the sophistication to carry out the attack.

The arrests come as the election campaign yesterday entered the home straight. Mr Obama presented what he termed his "closing argument", repeating the central mantra of his campaign, that the Bush administration has enriched itself and its cronies at the expense of everyone else, and that Mr McCain promises more of the same policies.

"The last thing we can afford is four more years of the tired, worn-out old theory that says we should give more to billionaires and big corporations and hope that prosperity trickles down to everyone else," the Democratic candidate said.

And in a swipe at his Republican rival, Mr Obama accused Mr McCain of using character attacks to divert voter's attention from the economy.

Mr Obama said: "That's why he (Mr McCain] is spending these last weeks calling me every name in the book. Because that's how you play the game in Washington: if you can't beat your opponent's ideas, you distort those ideas, and maybe make some up."

Meanwhile, in Cleveland, the biggest Ohio city, Mr McCain claimed that Mr Obama had plans for "a trillion dollars of new spending".

However, having acknowledged over the weekend that he and the president, George Bush, as fellow Republicans, share some economic philosophies, he appeared to perform a U-turn yesterday.

"We (Mr Obama and Mr McCain] both disagree with president Bush on economic policies. My approach is to get spending under control," Mr McCain said.

He added that the difference between himself and Mr Obama was that: "He thinks taxes have been too low, and I think that spending has been too high".









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  • Last Updated: 28 October 2008 12:18 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
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  • Related Topics: US elections
 
1

Scullion,

Canada 28/10/2008 00:22:33
It is only right that a black man lead the United States. Only then will the true debt owed to the black man, hinted at by Lincoln in his second inaugural address, begin to be truly repaid. This will show the world that the U.S. does indeed believe that it exists with malice toward none and with charity for all.
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Postmark-55,

China, 28/10/2008 00:48:59
This sounds more like some common practices carried out in Africa rather than something that would happen in developed nations, especially a place as 'developed' as the USA.
I question the numbers though, they said they would kill 88 and decapitate 14, sounds like they were planning on killing 88 in total with decapitations carried out on 14 of those. Last time I heard decapitating someone would also be consisered the same as killing someone, but maybe I heard wrong.
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Jock MacSprog,

28/10/2008 00:51:25
#2 you are as insane as these neo nazis in you blind hatred of America. What proof to you have to back up your bizarre deluded statements ?
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Jock MacSprog,

28/10/2008 00:53:57
#1 can you tell me who was the last black prime minister in Canada or the UK ?
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Scullion,

Canada 28/10/2008 01:25:00
Neither of us have had a Gettysburg or an Antietam where scores of thousands have died to erase the stain of slavery (yes, the Civil War was over slavery-both Lincoln and Grant stated it and every domestic and international issue was affected by it in antebellum America)
Both Canada and the U.K. have had women prime ministers so we're a bit more progressive than the U.S.
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Wally,

by the rivers of babylon (USA) 28/10/2008 02:03:07
as racism is a topic on this article & thread - here is a video from a sarah palin speech.

http://wonkette.com/403862/sarah-palin-fan-has-cute-nickname-for-barack-obama#more-403862

prior to being in alaska, palin said that her family came from Missouri. Missouri is where Mark twain was from, it was split in the great conflict between the states. the southern part (where twain was from) had roaming confederate military units that drafted all able-bodied men. the northern part of the state had the state government drafting people to serve in the north's army. twain fled the state rather than serve. he rode out the war in san francisco.

scullion in 7 is correct that US civil war was very traumatic (650,000 dead). however, as to the cause of the war, historians debate and have differences. certainly the people of america did not want to fight to abolish slavery. I'm convinced it was an instigated war and that the slavery issue was only used as a tool to get it going. but as I said, historians debate these as there are different views.
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Jock MacSprog,

28/10/2008 02:06:24
7 go ahead and pat yourself on the back there scullion, its what BRITS and wannabe Brits in Canada do best. Now how about that awkward bit about it being illegal for the UK Sovereign to marry a Catholic ? Is that "progressive" also ? How about the rapant sectarianism, institutionalised racism in our police service, progressive also ? What about the class system which means that the unelected idiot sons of aristocrats are able to make laws in the house of lords ? Real progressive mate. Nice try.
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Jock MacSprog,

28/10/2008 02:12:30
hey scullion, how long was Kim Campbell prime minister by the way ? 4 months ? Very impressive. "Canadians didn't believe Kim Campbell in the 1993 election campaign, and they destroyed her government and her party in one of the greatest repudiations in the history of politics". Seems the Canucks werent too chuffed about a female PM after all.
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Dunnie,

Canada 28/10/2008 02:17:06
#7 - Scullion - "Neither of us have had a Gettysburg or an Antietam where scores of thousands have died to erase the stain of slavery (yes, the Civil War was over slavery-both Lincoln and Grant stated it and every domestic and international issue was affected by it in antebellum America)
Both Canada and the U.K. have had women prime ministers so we're a bit more progressive than the U.S."

First - slavery was just one of the causes of the American Civil War. To say it was the only cause is far too simplisitic.

Also, unlike Maggie Thatcher, Kim Campbell was not elected as Prime Minister.
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Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 28/10/2008 02:30:24
there is an interesting halloween display in west hollywood.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/10/27/20081027palin-effigy1027-ON.html

sarah palin being hung in effigy. and mccain popping out of a chimney with fire all around.

I guess passions are running high.
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Unbiased Observer,

28/10/2008 03:10:53
The Reps don't like being beaten, they'll drum up any dirty tactic they can think of, and that, may possibly include assassination

Jock MacSprog is a Troll
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King Kong,

All Pervading 28/10/2008 03:34:27
Next thing Palin will tell Americans he's a moose

Shoot first then ask questions later, the true American way


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Tatties ower the side,

Johannesburg 28/10/2008 04:40:55
#1 Scully
WOW!!! That is just such a racist comment!

Obama's (estranged) father grew up in Kenya before moving to the US to live the American Dream!

The slaves that formed the majority of those shipped to the US 300 years ago were from West Africa .

So, the only thing Obama has in common with those historically mistreated folks is the colour of his skin!!!

I am shocked that a liberal like you would use such base physical characteristic to rationalise that he should become president!
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Let's have the truth,

Queensland 28/10/2008 05:57:22
They've evidently been rabble roused by McCain and the Palin woman.

It is astonishing that there are "people" who fall for their kind of gutter campaign.

Even more mind boggling is that they're allowed to vote.
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Finnking,

Lempäälä 28/10/2008 07:01:04
Post number 8 wasn't from me.

Note the formatted (bold) comma in the name.

Supremacists? Fantasists, more like. "Drive a car towards Obama while shooting"? Great plan.

It will only do Obama's campaign good.

PS Watch the commas!
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Finnking,

Lempäälä 28/10/2008 07:02:49
LMAO: Sorry, note the letter "i". You think it's the same sad man, Scullion?
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davidmcn,

28/10/2008 09:32:37
"killing 88 and decapitating 14"

Right. The decapitated ones weren't going to be killed?
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james 1st,

hamilton nz 28/10/2008 10:08:53
i hope obamas second in command is capable of being president, the usa is such a crazy place i think it is likely that he will be shot.dont wish the man any harm but there are a lot of nutters out there who will not like a mixed race president whether he is good at it or not.
hope he ends the war in iraq and saves american servicemens lives
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AJ Fife,

28/10/2008 10:28:16
#22,

I think you are 100% correct. Obama doesn't fit the traditional Protestant/Anglo-Saxon ruling class template for the US President and he'll pay the price!

That price might be being assassinated or perhaps, more likely, being discredited in some contrived financial or sexual scandal!

The CIA or FBI will already be on the case........
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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

28/10/2008 10:29:20
Skinhead Video Interview -

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2008/oct/28/neo-nazi-obama-assassination
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Obama-man,

sheltering behind a bullet proof screen. 28/10/2008 12:19:32
Dam ! what a pair of knuckle draggers. And those 2 bozzos who tried to kill me are just as bad, lol. Seriousley though, it could have been worse. Imagine if Old Man McCain offered me a ride ! in his private plane, that he was piloting !!!!!!. Now that would be underwear-changing time. Have you seen that guy's flying record ? Kamakazi pilots were safer in the air than he was lol.

Anyway fans, ooops sorry, "my fellow Americans", i'm still alive and kicking and as long as they keep sending redneck scum to kill me and you keep sending me money, this can run and run.

See ya.
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David E. Duke,

28/10/2008 12:33:15
#19-#20

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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

28/10/2008 13:02:00

Too much MICHAEL (Weiner) SAVAGE radio, I suppose -

Why would a nice Jewish boy from Queens, NY, born of Russian immigrants spew such poison over the airwaves and instigate home-grown terrorism ?

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"Savage introduced himself to certain writers in the North Beach area of San Francisco in the early 1970s.[6] He befriended and traveled with Beat poets Allen Ginsberg and Lawrence Ferlinghetti. Stephen Schwartz, also an acquaintance of Savage from this time, reported Savage possessed a photograph of himself and Ginsberg swimming naked in Hawaii and used the photograph as sort of a "calling card."[1][6] Savage maintained a correspondence with Ginsberg consisting of ten letters and a trio of postcards across four years, which is maintained with Ginsberg's papers at Stanford University.[7][1] One letter asked for Ginsberg and Ferlinghetti to come do a poetry reading, so others could "hear and see and know why I adore your public image."[3] One postcard mentions his desire to photograph Ginsberg in a provocative way, though Savage states that this correspondence is actually a forgery created by gay detractors.[1] Another acquaintance was poet and author Neeli Cherkovski, who says Savage dreamed of becoming a stand-up comic in the mold of Lenny Bruce.[1] On his radio show, Savage confirmed this desire but contrasted this with his desire, as a child, to become a cowboy."

(Swimmimng naked with Alan Ginzberg? ) How "Savage!"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Alan_Weiner

(interesting metamorphosis from beatnik/liberal to self-loathing racist-radio profiteer ! )

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we the people,

28/10/2008 13:25:35
postmark
i don't understand your mention of africa.
they wanted to kill 88 and decapitate 14 because these numbers have significance in american nazi lore.
undoubtedly the language and attitude of the mccain/palin campaign has emboldened white supremacists and their fellow travellers, which undoubtedly touches the far right wing of the republican party. the result is somewhere tonight and immigrant will be beaten or killed on his way to or from work.
i hope these two are treated with the utmost brutality in prison but one fears they will have the protection of the aryan brotherhood.
and i hope the repulsive mccain and palin are soon consigned to the dustbin of history, and the republicans get nowhere near power for a generation.
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Postmark-55,

China, 28/10/2008 13:40:51
#29 we the people,
My comparison of Africa comes into play because in Africa they are quick to use a machete and delimb or decapitate people, something I wasn't aware of happening in the USA.
Unfortunately we see it in the news time and again how in Africa, even child soldiers are using machetes to commit these atrocities.
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Al Sharpton Jr,

28/10/2008 13:42:45
#7 Pompus Scullion

"Both Canada and the U.K. have had women prime ministers so we're a bit more progressive than the U.S."

Really? How many Black Secretaries of State have you had? Have either of you had a Black person gotten as close to being Prime Minister as Obama? Any Blacks as National Security Advisor?
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Al Sharpton Jr,

28/10/2008 13:44:26
#16 Tatties ower the side

Scullion loves to try to divide people.
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sg1985,

uk 28/10/2008 13:46:46
to scullion.
you cant pick president based on 'a debt owed to black people' you pick based on the right man for the job. barack obama is the right man for the job, but to vote for him because of slavery is utterly rediculous. you should vote for him because of his policies not his racial ancestry
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AJ Fife,

28/10/2008 13:55:26
#31,

That's very true, and you also like to employ a fair old percentage of retards as US President! Commendable indeed!
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Edmond's comment,

Canada 28/10/2008 14:21:02
34 AJ Fife

There is no need to bring Carter and Clinton into this!
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Laurette,

28/10/2008 14:21:12
#14 If that should happen,we'd have a Biden/Clinton ticket. Better than a doddering old man and a woman with an ethics violation hanging over her head and a possible Steven's like investigation into how little she paid for her home to be built.
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A Clamper,

Edinburgh 28/10/2008 14:21:46
The U.S. likes to hand out long sentences. How about 100 years each for these two Nazis.
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Edmond's comment,

Canada 28/10/2008 14:26:01
33 sg1985,uk

Well put! Don't forget Obama is 50% white, 6.25% Black, & 43.75% Arab. So Scullion calling him a product of a former slave is a bit insane to begin with. Race whould have nothing to do with how you vote and I wish we had more colour in our government posts.
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Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 28/10/2008 15:42:52
I guess both personalities have been thuroughly investigated and written about - even sometimes lied about.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/28/news-orgs-investigate-pos_n_138449.html

here's a result of all that investigation - mccain caused a car-accident in 1964 where someone was killed.

it seems like from the time his high-school mates called him McNasty until now people have always covered up for him. mccain is vulnerable to being destroyed by the media because of his track record as a prisoner-of-war where he gave 20+ propaganda interviews and cooperated strongly with his captors. but it was not necessary to use the heavy ammunition to destroy him when they could just select palin instead. If Obama truly was the selection of the people that rule, and if it was necessary to use the heavy ammunition for any reason, then they'd do it.

both candidates are puppets. Obama's leash will be about as short as bush's and walked by the same master.
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Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 28/10/2008 15:56:59
if you are of a mind that obama represents significant change, then please read Alex Cockburn who claims that Obama is a good republican.

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/alexander-cockburn-obama-the-firstrate-republican-973691.html

Obama is safe from assassination as long as he is a good puppet. John Kennedy was willing to be a puppet with his actions when he fist became president. but over time he learned and he knew that he could not serve them. at first he was cautious and went with the program. after 2 years he began ordering different directions. by the time he died he had made some radical changes and was speaking of more radical changes. the rest is history.

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Wally,

by the rivers of babylon (USA) 28/10/2008 16:13:16
http://people-press.org/report/465/mccain-support-declines

its getting to the point where we only ask how big the democrat victory will be. we will be exuberant if it is of historic proportions. but I feel that in reality the whole effort at self-government is a failure and this election will only be a defeat for the american people regardless what the vote results are. because the government will remain in the control of the people who rule us. in military terms it will be like the defeats at the alamo & at little big horn.
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Enquiring Scot ,

28/10/2008 16:23:39
#Sarah Moosehead,39-43-44

Sorry to disappoint Troll but it’s a well known fact pointed out by Postmark that you or some other troll was impersonating Alan Reid so by you perpetuating his name just proves you are part of the problem. You or you and your pals are going around impersonating others and now you are blaming others. The Scotsman has MY ISP as I do not hide out in an internet café like you do. I see you have posted this inflammatory lie on multiple threads encouraging people to go around deleting my comments along with others for no other reason than to satisfy your troll thirst. Now go back under your bridge and stop disrupting these articles.
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AJ Fife,

28/10/2008 16:24:10
Ref Sarah Moosehead,

Is that your name or a terrible affliction?
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Banana Heid,

Ayrshire 28/10/2008 16:29:28
No such thing as a white supremacist. Tis a myth perpetuated by adolph and his minion. coloured people have bigger todgers can dance better and are pretty much fitter than your average white guy...
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Enquiring Scot ,

28/10/2008 16:59:58
#51 Vida Dosa

Did you request the trolls comment to be removed at #39?? I wish it had stayed!!! The idiot saud you, me, Jock McScrog, and at least 4 others were the same person. I wanted others to see the post as to shed light on who it might be. It may just have been removed as the idiot was asking everyone to go around and delete posts.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 28/10/2008 17:34:06
Laurette.. It would not be Biden-Clinton.. It would be Biden-Pelosi.. she is next in line.
Thought you knew EVERYTHING
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Media 1,

cape town 28/10/2008 18:21:25
A 21 year old and an 18 year old?
Racists? I doubt they even know what the word means.

But I wonder where the so called plot began! One man with power gives an order to another man with power, that man passes the message onto another man who passes it onto another man until the link between the end result and the initiation is lost, what you are left with is two silly little boys with little to live for and nothing to lose -
Whites who dont like blacks and blacks who dont like whites is perfectly normal and should never be considered as anything but normal - but lets also remember that when it gets to the levels being described in this story it isnt racism anymore, its manipulation and indoctrination.
Obama will be President, and that is all that matters! The man is a statesman and a gentelman.
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Lord Killwillie,

Killwillie Castle 28/10/2008 18:36:23
#56 Media 1

They do not vote until next week although there has been some funny business going on from early voting from the democrats. We shall see if Obama really does win. I'm still puzzled as to why Obama was protected from the press for so long and not until a couple days ago a few reporters finally asked his running mate a couple real questions.
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Lord Killwillie,

Killwillie Castle 28/10/2008 18:55:55
#56 Media 1

I just posted this comment to "American" on another thread but thought I should share with you also.

"The International Markets have already prepared for an Obama Presidency. I'm sure most of you Yanks were wise enough to sell now rather than take huge tax penalties during an Obama Presidency.

People world wide are biting off their noses to spite their faces. Now I understand why so many could follow leaders like Hitler and Stalin. Hopefully your voters will wake up before next week."
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Elderberry,

28/10/2008 19:19:37
#51 Vida Dosa

What's this all about? What have I done?
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sandy,

USA Land of the free, Home of the brave 28/10/2008 19:39:47
#55

According to the 25th Amendment, Biden would chose a VP and the Senate would need to confirm...

Pelosi is in line behind the VP to take the presidents post if both pres. & VP are gone...
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sandy,

USA Land of the free, Home of the brave 28/10/2008 19:45:08
#58

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-flspdolwayne27sboct27,0,1382404.story
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Big Jock McDoc,

Scotland 28/10/2008 20:08:42
#1

You're always guaranteed a laugh from the comments on this site.
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SouthernGent,

28/10/2008 20:12:11
Anyone expressing alarm at this headline obviously have never driven through backwoods TN, NC, GA, etc. Some of these people are so isolated, I shudder when I drive through. We are to an extent a product of our environment, and ignorance does breed ignorance.
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D. Feste - Illyria, OH,

28/10/2008 21:12:41

I'd enjoy seeing the "Bush Doctrine" of preemption
enacted on these domestic terrorists. Life sentences.
Teenagers or adults, no matter.
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Lynne,

Palm Beach Gardens 28/10/2008 21:49:18
#60.. thanks for the Info.. I must admit, I thought it was the other way around.
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Let's have the truth,

Queensland 28/10/2008 23:06:13
Why don't the US military seek out skinhead white "supremacists" groups throughout the US, kick in the doors of their HQ's and spray the occupants, women and children included, with machine gun fire?

The answer maybe because they are McCain/Palin voters.
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2dogs in D.C.,

29/10/2008 00:19:32
Guns and sick puppies we've got to spare.
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Virginian,

USA 29/10/2008 00:19:37
#64 D. Feste
Quote:
"I'd enjoy seeing the "Bush Doctrine" of preemption enacted on these domestic terrorists. Life sentences."

Answer:

Feste, what about Obama's ally and friend, Bill Ayers, a successful domestic terrorist?

He actually bombed the Pentagon, a Federal building and a judge's house for openers. Policemen were killed in a Brink's robbery attributed to fellow Weatherman.

Yet, Ayers boasted that he was "free as a bird, what a great country..." when he got off due to a technicality.

You propose a life sentence for two obviously mentally challenged men but support an admitted domestic terrorist who is set free to further radicalize his college students.

"To whom much is given, much is expected."

Chances are good that Obama would find a way to reward his good friend and neighbor. Secretary of Education would be an obvious possibility.





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Virginian,

USA 29/10/2008 03:48:24
The latest local polls show that John McCain will be the next President of the United States!!!

Hurrah...I knew the best man would win.
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Queensland 29/10/2008 10:55:14
#73

"The latest local polls show that John McCain will be the next President"

If they poll a group of red-necked, neo-nazi, African American hating racsists, what do you expect?

This one was taken among people whose brains haven't been manipulated by the likes of Karl Rove and other extreme right wing foot soldiers.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gsJFrfCUdsIcmKeoJi6FsxFSxlkAD9443C000

I think you'll find it points to a landslide win for Obama.

However, you can't be blamed for thinking positively while you have the opportunity.
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thatscottishman,

29/10/2008 13:30:16
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Bravo!!! Well said.



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Virginian,

USA 29/10/2008 15:43:06
John McCain's ancestor from Scotland was a minister and settled in Albemarle County, Virginia, before the American Revolution.

Charlottesville and the University of Virginia are located in Albemarle County.

McCain's ancestry is both Scot and Virginian.

Being both Scot and Virginian...an unbeatable combination!

President John McCain...Hail to the Chief!
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Virginian,

USA 29/10/2008 19:23:09
"McCain Slams LA Times for Double Standard in Withholding Obama-Khalidi Tape"--FoxNews.com, Wednesday, October 29, 2008)

Well, there goes the powerful Jewish American vote!!!

President John Sidney McCain,III...Hail to the Chief! (to the tune "Hail to the Chief" played when the US President enters the premises.)
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Let's have the truth,

Queensland 29/10/2008 23:08:19
The difference between the two candidates is that McCain is in it for his own personal ambition whereas Obama is genuine in his desire to restore the US's reputation in the world.

It would be a travesty if McCain is elected purely for his own personal glory. The same goes for the Palin woman.
84

Let's have the truth,

Queensland 29/10/2008 23:52:24
#83

"when will you have a black person get this close to becoming PM? When will you ever have a Black secretary of State or National Security Advisor?"

When someone of Obama's quality rears his/her head.

Oh, Condoleeza Rice is there as a token.
85

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86

King Kong,

Stomping Around 30/10/2008 03:46:55
#83 #87 Shaniqua
Do you ever say anything nice to people or are you just a full time moron?
87

Let's have the truth,

Queensland 30/10/2008 03:57:12
#88 Shaniqua

You must be something of a novelty in the USA. You actually know where Queensland is.

Did you graduate from a US university with a master's degree in geography?
88

Dragonhead,

Dalian,China 30/10/2008 04:48:44
#84 Virginian, Yep already read that in the media.Why not have it in the open? It would seem that every question of interest about the 'messiah' Obama is never answered!Still wait until the gullible souls who are voting for him see the results.For those who raise the 'Slavery race card', Obama is of Arab descent.The very people who benefitted hugely from the slave trade.Strange tha!
89

sandy,

USA Land of the free, Home of the brave 30/10/2008 14:38:47
81 Virginian

Being both Scot and Virginian & Scot and Pennsylvanian... unbeatable combinations! :o))))

How are chances of delivering Virginia for McCain?

It will be mighty close in Pa, but i think McCain will win out...He must!!!

90

sandy,

USA Land of the free, Home of the brave 30/10/2008 14:45:39
#83 Shaniqua

Excellent question!!!

#87 Shaniqua

Excellent point!...and judging from the response at 89, you hit a nerve? :o)

91

Virginian,

USA 30/10/2008 18:51:31
#91 sandy,USA
Quote:
"How are chances of delivering Virginia for McCain?"

Answer:

Virginia is solidly behind McCain and will vote Republican.

Cannot speak for the Carpetbagger Country of Northern Virginia.

Virginia will do its best to deliver for President John Sidney McCain III, Commander-in-Chief!!!
92

Virginian,

USA 30/10/2008 19:06:36
Sandy,USA

Did you notice that the thread under "Big-spender Obama..." has been removed.

It may have to do with weeshooie1 posting that article attributed to Thomas Sowell titled, "Random Thoughts" published on August 26, 2008.

The article did not sound like Sowell to me either.

Sowell's article of August 27, 2008, titled, "Anarchy on the Internet," mentions a blogger who has been writing articles under Sowell's name.

He mentions the blogger being pursued for identity theft, and his attorney stated that the blogger has been "appropriating Dr. Sowell's identity and passing off writings as if they were Dr. Sowell's when they are not..."

Could be that "The Scotsman" pulled the thread since it would be publishing an entire article without permission as well as under a false name.

Those are pretty serious offenses that "The Scotsman" would want to head off.
93

sandy,

USA Land of the free, Home of the brave 30/10/2008 19:17:11
#93..Virginian

Well, i'll hold you to that!!!
94

sandy,

USA Land of the free, Home of the brave 30/10/2008 19:29:23
#94 Virginian

Yes i believe that could be why Scotsman took down the comments and rightly so...

I also think Scotsman may have taken comments down because of comments to "cutty Sark" from Lynne,USA & carolyn1 about Scotland being a "Nazi" country...

Just a thought...
95

Let's have the truth,

Queensland 31/10/2008 10:04:07
As much as Obama is the superior choice for the presidency, if he wins I'm afraid there are clowns who will react against him and there will be clashes instigated by white, far right wing neocons against coloured people in Alabama and Florida.

 

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