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Published Date: 27 August 2008
THE three men arrested over a reported plot to kill the US Democratic presidential candidate, Barack Obama, have ties to the white supremacist group Aryan Nations, police said last night.

Shawn Robert Adolf, 33, Nathan Johnson and Tharin Gartrell are all said to have links to the group.

Adolf – his real name according to police – and the others were arrested on weapons charges after an apparent move to assassinate Mr Obama dur
ing his party's convention in Denver this week.

All three belong to Aryan Nations, according to Victor Ross, the police chief in Glendale, a suburb of Denver where one of the suspects was arrested. The other two were held in Aurora, another suburb.

"We don't usually have that number of Aryan Nations people here,'' Mr Ross said. "It was suspicious to us. We turned everything over to the federal authorities."

It is said the group planned to shoot Mr Obama during his convention acceptance speech, to be delivered outdoors at a football stadium tomorrow night – the anniversary of Martin Luther King's famous "I have a dream" address. While federal agents are downplaying the plot as being of "no credible threat" to Mr Obama, the discovery of such a plan – and the way it was discovered – are certain to raise security concerns over the man who could be the next president of the United States.

Events started to move in the early hours of Sunday, the day before the Democratic National Convention was due to open, when a police patrol car stopped a pick-up truck driving erratically in Aurora.

In the back of the vehicle, officers found two high-powered rifles, one with telescopic sights, a spotting scope, a flak jacket, camouflage clothing, a bulletproof vest, boxes of ammunition, three fake identity cards, two wigs, two walkie-talkies and a quantity of the drug methamphetamine, a form of speed known as crystal meth.

The driver, Gartrell, 28, unemployed, was arrested.

Four hours later, police raided a nearby hotel where alleged accomplice Adolf, a wanted fugitive, was staying. He tried to escape by jumping from a sixth-floor window, breaking his ankle in the attempt.

He has a long history of convictions for drugs and violence, and when arrested, police found he had the key to handcuffs in one hand and a ring with a swastika emblem in the other.

Shortly afterwards, police made two more arrests, of Johnson, 32, and his girlfriend, Natasha Gromek, both on drugs charges, at another hotel.

In an extraordinary interview from his jail cell, Johnson told a reporter from CBS television that Adolf had planned to kill Mr Obama during his nomination acceptance address to 75,000 supporters at Denver's Invesco Field at Mile High football stadium tomorrow night.

"He (Adolf] said at one point, yes, it would be on probably the day of his acceptance speech," Johnson said. He had told FBI investigators "it would be from a high vantage point with the named rifle". But Johnson insisted he himself had no part in the plot.

He said Adolf had said of Mr Obama: "He don't belong in political office; blacks don't belong in political office. He should be shot."

When asked if he felt there was a plot to kill Mr Obama, Johnson said: "Looking back at it, I don't want to say yes, but I don't want to say no."

Aryan Nations is the most influential of dozens of neo-Nazi groups spread across the US. Last year, one of its members, Jason Hamilton, went on a shooting spree that left three people and himself dead in Idaho, home to one of the group's three branches. Hamilton was a member of The Order, a self-styled commando group within Aryan Nations.

The group's website is blunt about its role in creating a whites-only state in North America. "We realise that it takes a cold-blooded, pragmatic and realist viewpoint to enact the changes which will be necessary to achieve our goals," it says.

But the US authorities are playing down the ability of the arrested men to carry out an assassination amid tight security. "We're absolutely confident there is no credible threat to the candidate, the Democratic National Convention or the people of Colorado," Troy Eid, the state attorney, said.

Opinion is divided about whether groups such as Aryan Nations represent a genuine threat or can be dismissed as cranks, but the US has a long and unhappy history of cranks with guns. The 1963 assassination of John F Kennedy was the work of a disgruntled loner, Lee Harvey Oswald, and in 1995, Timothy McVeigh, a former soldier, aided by two accomplices, built a bomb and detonated it outside a federal building in Oklahoma City, killing 168.

Prosecutors yesterday said they had evidence to charge the three men only with drugs and firearms offences.

Security fears have been heightened by Mr Obama's decision to hold his acceptance speech not in the convention centre in Denver, but in the open-roofed football stadium, a much harder venue to police.

The evidence suggests a well-planned assassination attempt, with weapons assembled, a truck rented and hotel rooms booked in a town where most accommodation was full months before the convention.

But police sources doubt such an attempt could have been carried out. Metal detectors will search all those entering the stadium; the nearest rooftops are 750 yards from the ground and will be monitored by police snipers; helicopters will guard a no-fly zone over the stadium, and even a McVeigh-style truck bomb would be kept away by a large cordon around the area.

Nevertheless, the arrests have touched a raw nerve .

Thursday's nomination acceptance takes place on the anniversary of the "I have a dream" speech by Martin Luther King, and King's campaign for racial equality saw him assassinated 40 years ago.

And while Democrats of all races are euphoric about the Obama campaign, that is countered by some resentment.

As a result, security is tight, verging on paranoid, across the city. On Sunday, a full security alert was triggered and a hotel evacuated – those that had to leave included House speaker Nancy Pelosi – after a man checked-in with two hunting rifles he had brought to Denver for repair.

On the main highway leading to the airport, police patrols have begun stopping vans and minibuses, apparently after fears about home-made bombs.

Meanwhile, a large part of downtown Denver has been closed off, with high metal gates and concrete barriers to thwart bombing attempts. Inside this zone, police vehicles cruise the streets with armed officers in black jumpsuits clinging to the sides.

Since Sunday, Denver police have been hunting through derelict and public buildings for weapons, flags and petrol bombs that they fear rioters may have stockpiled, intending to use during demonstrations planned for later this week.

The media are also under pressure from the Democratic establishment, which wants reporting to concentrate on their scripted conference and not be diverted into covering an alleged assassination conspiracy.

A target of hatred from the outset

THE men and women of the Secret Service, dressed in dark suits, wearing sunglasses and carrying SIG Sauer P229 automatic handguns, arrived at Senator Barack Obama's side at exactly 1pm on 3 May, 2007. And they don't look likely to leave anytime soon.

Mr Obama was given official protection under Public Law 90-331, introduced after the assassination of Robert F Kennedy, which authorises the protection of major presidential and vice-presidential candidates.

Usually the armed protection begins 120 days prior to the election, however, Mr Obama was given early and elevated security because, as Dick Durbin, a Democratic senator, explained: "Mr Obama's African-American heritage is a cause for very violent and hated reactions among some people."

While Senator John McCain, the Republican nominee-in-waiting, is understood to have just eight full-time Secret Service agents in his detail, Mr Obama is thought to have dozens more. All are trained in the use of a variety of close-combat weapons, such as the Remington Model 870 shotgun, the IMI Uzi and the HK MP5 (including the MP5KA4) submachine-guns among others. Each is issued with a radio to maintain communication with a central command post and other personnel. Basic strategies include: shield the protectee from any threat; evacuate the protectee to a safe location; conduct extensive research in order to plan for all contingencies.

Protection goes beyond surrounding the candidate with well-armed agents. The Secret Service website states that the agency does extensive advance work and threat assessments.

It has been reported that the Secret Service's codename for Mr Obama is "Renegade". The Senator has a relaxed, good-natured relationship with the men charged with taking a bullet for him.

While Mr Obama's team insist the candidate has "the best protection in the world", there have been allegations that the vast numbers flocking to hear the senator speak are forcing the Secret Service to cut corners. It was reported that, at a rally in Dallas, agents ordered local police to stop searching each supporter before entering the arena.

A History of Violence

JOHN HINCKLEY

AGE: 53 (25 at time)

TARGET: President Ronald Reagan

DATE: 30 March, 1981

WHAT HAPPENED: Hinckley developed an obsession with the actress Jodie Foster. He tried repeatedly to contact her, then developed the belief that if he assassinated the president he would be famous and so her equal. On 30 March, 1981, Hinckley fired a revolver at Ronald Reagan as he left the Hilton Hotel in Washington. Hinckley wounded three people, and although he did not directly hit Reagan, the president was hurt when a bullet ricocheted off his limousine and hit him in the chest. Hinckley was found not guilty by reason of insanity and has been remanded under institutional psychiatric care ever since.

SIRHAN SIRHAN

AGE: 64 (24 at time)

TARGET: Presidential candidate Bobby Kennedy

DATE: 4 June, 1968

WHAT HAPPENED: The assassination of Bobby Kennedy as he was campaigning to win the Democratic presidential nomination led directly to Congress providing Secret Service protection to candidates.

Kennedy was shot in the head with a 0.22-calibre revolver in the kitchen passageway of the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles by Sirhan Sirhan, a Palestinian angered by Kennedy's support of Israel during the Six-Day War. Kennedy was rushed to hospital, where he died. Sirhan remains incarcerated at the California State Prison, Corcoran.

LEE HARVEY OSWALD

AGE: 34 (killed same year)

TARGET: President John F Kennedy

DATE: 22 November, 1963

WHAT HAPPENED: President Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas, Texas, after being shot twice in the neck and head as he and his wife drove through the city in a open-top motorcade. Lee Harvey Oswald was arrested for the murder, but denied the crime, claiming to be "a patsy". He was himself shot dead by Jack Ruby two days later. President Johnson created the Warren Commission – chaired by Chief Justice Earl Warren – to investigate the assassination and concluded that Oswald was the lone assassin, a view that, despite the vast number of conspiracy theories, has hardened over the years into certainty.

JAMES EARL RAY

AGE: 40 (died in 1998)

TARGET: Civil rights leader Martin Luther King

DATE: 4 April, 1968

WHAT HAPPENED: The Rev Martin Luther King was shot dead while standing on the second-floor balcony of the Lorraine Motel, in Memphis, in whose room 306 he regularly stayed. The bullet, fired by James Earl Ray, passed down his spinal cord and lodged in his shoulder. According to Jesse Jackson, King's last words were to musician Ben Branch: "Ben, make sure you play Take My Hand, Precious Lord in the meeting tonight. Play it real pretty." King was pronounced dead at St Joseph's Hospital at 7:05 pm.Ray was sentenced to 99 years and died in prison.













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  • Last Updated: 26 August 2008 11:37 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
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1

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 27/08/2008 00:14:08

I told you all about this threat about 2months ago!

You all thought me mad!

Well I for one know it is NOT a, 'Garden of Roses' out there,

Maybe in future some will take me serious, in my predictions of the future.

Do People learn 'nothing' from past history, are People soo 'Grren'?
2

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 27/08/2008 00:19:12

Again I will reiterate,

The days are numbered, some will be lucky to see their dream!
3

I-Mac,

27/08/2008 00:31:14
The US authorities are dismissing this alleged plot, describing the people involved as "meth heads" who posed no credible threat.
4

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 27/08/2008 00:36:51

I-Mac ~3,

'Of Course' they will, one uses this tactic, to prevent one from knowing the truth.

Those of superiority and run government, cant have,..

'Joe Public' thinking anything else.
5

Whistle Berries,

Lake Stevens, WA, USA 27/08/2008 01:04:40
The Barrett .50 calibre sniper rifle has an effective range of at least 1,850 meters...and the bullet can blow a hole completely through an engine block.

The "nearest rooftops" are 686 meters distant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrett_M82

Many U.S. people, some of them bordering on, if not crazy, have paid the $8,000 to $10,000 for these rifles.

That means any motor vehicle, helicopter or airplane is at risk at the distance of about 1.85 kilometers.



6

Statsman,

Edinburgh 27/08/2008 01:41:36
There's something fishy about this story. Have they even been charged with conspiracy to kill anyone? I got the impression from the TV News that they had not.

BTW you should look up John Hinckley. There are some really interesting links to the Bush family. He was a very unusual 'random' madman.
7

Statsman,

Edinburgh 27/08/2008 01:42:50
5 Whistle Berries

American gun nut alert. :)
8

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 27/08/2008 01:53:20
Listen and Listen NOW!,

Whistle Berries @#5, has many a message in his/her post.

Get your 'listening ears' on for once, and 'Stop' being naive mice!
9

Guga II,

Rockall 27/08/2008 02:17:41
#1 Charlie.

Maybe you should change your name to Cassandra.
10

2dogs in D.C.,

27/08/2008 02:38:43
Unfortunately,there are more than enough loonies here to do just such a thing. If elected,Mr.Obamas'security detail will be very busy. A very sad state of affairs for my country.
11

Helene,

Ontario, Canada 27/08/2008 02:42:26
#10 - Cassandra? There would be even less chance of anyone taking heed!
12

Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 27/08/2008 03:01:06
It's been downplayed almost everywhere except in the HOOTSMAN.
Just a couple of methheads with a gun. No big deal. Just another day in America.
13

2dogs in D.C.,

27/08/2008 03:13:12
#13-Neil-Sadly,you're right.Just another day..
14

Wally,

By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA) 27/08/2008 03:40:13
I'm sure there's plenty of meth-heads who are insane and would consider killing Obama even. But real assassinations are not generally done by lone crazed people acting without a larger sponsor behind the scenes.

In America all of the so-called 'militias' were infiltrated & dominated by federal government undercover agents. About 25 years ago there was a famous incident where some Ku Klux Klans members got into a gun-battle with some American communists. Several people were killed. An investigator proved conclusively that all of the instigators both among the communists and the KKK were undercover agents of the federal government.

It is quite likely that even in this case where nothing really happened but some people being arrested that these people were not acting merely as 'lone nuts'. It is valuable to keep people thinking that any politician could be assassinated at any time by a 'lone nut'. It makes such lone nuts more valuable assets than they'd otherwise be.

Why was John Hinkley a member of the same small music club in Hawaii as the individual who assassinated John Lennon? Because the mind-control program in that club facilitated both cases - that's why. Lone nut assassins are in reality mind-controlled people put up to the job. They're like robots set to do a job.

and it is also useful to keep Obama supporters thinking that some Americans hate their candidate so badly that they'd kill him if they could. A divided country is easier to rule over.
15

Haggis MacBagpipes,

Central Canada - ex Perth & Glesca' 27/08/2008 03:41:28
#10-Guga-2,Rockall
It seems more apparent that "Chuckles" Linskaill is suffering from senile dimentia, just as 'Boy Wonder' said. Now "Chuckles" is seeing into the future.
I wonder what will be his next prophesy...I can hardly wait!
Cheers,
Haggis MacBagpipes™©
16

jarmon,

27/08/2008 05:33:23
Wally #15--I think you hit a bullseye on this one.Good post.To understand assassinations in america,one must think like a mafia soldier.
17

Mallory,

Edinburgh 27/08/2008 06:11:31
1:10am UK, Wednesday August 27, 2008 Sky News
Police in the US say there is "insufficient evidence" to charge three men who were allegedly planning to assassinate Barack Obama.

The men were arrested in Denver, Colorado, in connection with drugs and weapons offences.

Sky News political editor Adam Boulton, in Denver, said one of the group is reported to have made comments alerting police to a potential assassination plot against the leader of the Democrats.

But speaking at a press conference, police said the men were drug addicts.
18

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 27/08/2008 07:03:44
Presidential protection is almost an industry in the US. It thrives on threats-which doesn't mean there aren't plenty of real ones out there. Thank god for Jack Bauer. What's the betting Obama doesn't survive if a President?
19

Boy Wonder,

27/08/2008 07:30:06
President Obama will be like a magnet for the psych-nutjobs to come out of the woodwork.

And look, Chuckles Numbskull has already started! Cassandra was a lone voice wailing in the wind thanks to Apollo ... but she was essentially right. Perhaps Chuckles is more like a Scottish Notradamus ... possibly correct, but only in hindsight and the message obscured by his ravings! Didn't Odin give an eye for his "ravings" Hugin and Munin??

I think the assassination of Obama is a strong possibility. But he should carry on regardless and break the mould of white domination of the Yoo Ess Ay!
20

radge dug,

Taigh na Croiche 27/08/2008 08:05:56
Supremacists? Yeah, these guys are really supreme. They look like the lumpen criminal element we get here in the BNP. Put white trash in the bin.

As to Charles and his predictions? There must be thousands of nutters in the US wanting to kill every president. FFS, they turn the guns on each other at the drop of hat.

Is Chas the Brahan Seer in disguise?
21

Douglas,

Bathgate 27/08/2008 08:35:19
Best keep your head down Charles, before your next post comes from Guantanamo Bay. :o(
22

Voice of reason,

EDINBURGH 27/08/2008 09:16:51
The Democrats have probably arranged this . Or did Hilary Clinton ?
23

The Spook in Leith,

27/08/2008 09:26:52
Still can not understand why H Clinton lost out for the Democrats!! She would have won the us elections but obamba will never win. America has far to many kkk activists to give this guy a chance.
24

Sally Longlegs,

edinburgh 27/08/2008 09:51:10
#1 you are what we in Edinburgh call a bam!
If you have nothing better to do,go and see if your GP can have you committed.
25

Horrible Cankers @Cyber Shebeen,

27/08/2008 10:27:34
Plenty enough 'White supremist' eejits in America possibly lining up to do this kind of thing....had a look on Youtube...the vicious hatred from these people is incredible, they truly believe that they are superior and hate with a frightening intensity....
26

we the people,

27/08/2008 10:41:32
they say the view that lee harvey oswald acted alone has 'hardened into certainty' - has it? i didn't think so. likewise luther king - killed by fbi.
27

donald,

glasgow 27/08/2008 10:46:55
"Charles Linskaill,
Edinburgh 27/08/2008 00:14:08

I told you all about this threat about 2months ago!

You all thought me mad!

Well I for one know it is NOT a, 'Garden of Roses' out there,

Maybe in future some will take me serious, in my predictions of the future.

Do People learn 'nothing' from past history, are People soo 'Grren'?"

I telt them in 1983 that 1984 wis comin'. Wid they believe me?
28

LaundryEnd,

Shropshire 27/08/2008 12:13:07
This is a truly awful story. Barama appears to be an essentially decent family man with the drive and initiative to want to contribute to the general good. He must have a very good chance of being elected,even with the American obsession about presentation, and must surely be an improvement on the Bush years.

However, he is black, and immediately attracts all the racial hatred which takes no account of intelligence or potential,and seems more appropriate for the Middle Ages than a modern society which considers itself 'Christian'.Good for him that he has refused to be intimidated by these idiots, let us hope that ordinary decent people condemn the racists, make this kind of thinking unacceptable, and move the USA into the 21st century.
29

LaundryEnd,

Shropshire 27/08/2008 12:15:41
Sorry, typo. Line 1, 'Barak Obama'
30

Joanna,

Cambs, England 27/08/2008 12:26:10
There have been at least 17 assassination attempts against US Presidents and 4 successful assassinations of Presidents in office.

So, even if Obama were not the first black candidate to have a serious chance of becoming President he would be at risk. He has, however, had to have a much higher level of security than a white candidate and has had to be protected for longer.

If the worst happens and an assassin is successful in murdering Obama then it will set race relations back in the USA by decades. It will also have a significant impact on how America is viewed by the wider world.
31

LaundryEnd,

Shropshire 27/08/2008 12:51:02
#33.'will set race relations back in the USA by decades.'

Unfortunately, this appears to be what the racists want to achieve. It never fails to amaze me that outdated symbols such as the confederate flag with its connotations of supporting slavery continue to be allowed both here and in the USA.

There has to be a concerted effort to change the mind-set.
32

John M. Slusser II,

Nantwich 27/08/2008 13:33:20
Racism is sadly NOT a totally American trademark - it exists at least as much deeply so here in Good Olde England. And BOTH sides of the issue keep it going, but in these so-called "modern days" it is merely one more way to controll the masses, with none of the previous fervor. Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
33

John M. Slusser II,

Nantwich 27/08/2008 13:36:11
...and lest we forget, there are ONLY two camps of people on ANY given issue: ignorance or denial.
34

Paul S.,

Mauricetown, NJ, USA 27/08/2008 13:38:26
It is in instances such as this that we find the greatest tension between "free speech" and "clear and present danger". When is the line crossed between advocating hate and actual promotion of hate crime?

In this case the police have downplayed the danger, but I suspect they consider it to be a ploy to lessen the possibility of public panic. Behind the scenes, I imagine that the full power of the US government will be imagined to be at work.

After all, with such "advanced notice" from these three jerks, if anything actually happens, the conspiracy theories will abound, and rightly so. The government, no matter how corrupted by the neo-con right wing oil interests, will have to seem beyond reproach.

But consider how easily racist assassins could be controlled by any special interest group that fears the reforms Mr. Obama and the Democrats will no doubt initiate. Big arms, big oil, and big medicine are just three of several which would love to see the status quo maintained.

As always, follow the money.

If there is even an attempt with actual bullets fired at Mr. Obama, it could constitute the neo-con's "Reichstag Fire", the reason for instituting even more depredations on the US Constitution, all in the name of "protection".

Yet if Mr. Obama does not stand up to this with his usual aplomb, the cause is lost through fear. I personally want him to be successful and live and above all win. He must at least start the cleaning out of the US's Augean Stables which contain the corrupt, oil-filled dung of neo-con self-interest.
35

DonetoDeath,

27/08/2008 14:18:26
I've got to stop reading this BULL!!
36

Media 1,

cape town 27/08/2008 14:29:35
Nazi's or Neo Cons, its the same thing! And lets be honest, was Hitler and his cronies any worse than Bush and his? Does Israel treat Palestinians any differently to the way that Germany once treated Poland?
The Neo Cons cannot stand the fact that Obama is heading for the white house. Bush and co will be turning in their graves at the thought of a black man in the white house such is the level of their hatred.

But guess what? Obama WILL be the next President because he is the best man for the job...
Yes to Obama and no to bomb bomb McCain
37

A Clamper,

Edinburgh 27/08/2008 14:42:11
Can you imagine a similar scene in London. Three Nazis
are arrested close to Westminster armed with sniper rifles,and one admits that they were planning to assinate a prominent politician and the police say "There was no credible threat" The good ol' U.S.,
you coudn't make it up.
38

DaughterofScotland,

too far from Alba 27/08/2008 15:13:17
#31
Spot on -- and I'm happy to say that there are plenty of us ordinary decent people over here who do indeed condemn the racists and are working within our communities to make this kind of thinking a thing of the past. Naturally, there are those hold-outs who won't see past the color of someone's skin and look at their character, but it doesn't change the fact that they are in the minority :) The ordinary decent people are the ones who will vote with their conscience, and I hope, their hearts, for whom they believe to be the best candidate, regardless of race, sex, faith/or none, etc.

#37
"Yet if Mr. Obama does not stand up to this with his usual aplomb, the cause is lost through fear. I personally want him to be successful and live and above all win. He must at least start the cleaning out of the US's Augean Stables which contain the corrupt, oil-filled dung of neo-con self-interest."
YES! Absolutely :) I have every faith that Obama will indeed stand up to this, and every challenge put before him. And he will do it with grace and dignity, all the while remembering that he must serve the best interests of "We the People" ... somethings that the Bush admin has never heard of!
39

Media 1,

cape town 27/08/2008 15:43:27
I think the word racism the most misused word in the English language.
White people around the world are the most welcoming people on the planet(In General)
A black man can live, work and succeed in America and Europe to the point that he can climb the political ladders in the corridors of power and make millions within well managed and well run white societies. But try find a white man doing the same anywhere in Africa.
White people dont host "the white music awards" instead they embrace all colours and creeds and celebrate music as one. White people dont have "the white lawyers or doctors associations" because white people are more prone to opening up their world to ALL people of all colours, which is why a great man like Obama can get to the position he is currently in.
He is the right man for the job, end of story. McCain cannot compete with him!
I salute Obama for his political acumen and I salute the people of America for embracing all people of all colours and creeds.
40

sweetsal,

Eugene 27/08/2008 16:04:07
One of my original reasons for not wanting Obama to succeed in his bid for the presidency is our (US) tendency (ha) towards serious racism. It is wonderful that this serious plot was stopped; however, don't believe it is the first or last. Don't believe he and his family haven't gone over and over this possibility. He provides the germ of significant change (at last) for the US; can he survive to do this? We don't need any more racist deaths...I am almost 60 and I think I will see them again and again.
41

RSBuff,

GA/USA 27/08/2008 17:11:28
How many high-level, elected politicians in the UK are people of color? How many mayors of large cities in the UK are people of color? How many MP's are people of color? How many senior judges in the UK are people of color? I bet that the US has more comparatively in each category: such as legislators vs. MP, etc. It's easy to throw stones when you are basically ignorant concerning US society.
42

Jung,

27/08/2008 18:50:29
#42
Gut-wrenching, vomit-inducing sycophancy! When SA throws you out, and Scotland will not take you, are you hoping for US residency?
43

tyson,

'Naptowne by the Bay, Maryland 27/08/2008 20:31:08
Belay this "American Racism" nonsense. Obama is about to receive the nomination for the highest office in the U.S. from the largest political party in the nation.There are marginalized groups who continually threaten all major American politicians. In this case, this small group is probably racially motivated. To make the leap from this to branding U.S. society as racist is silly. Wherever two or mor races seek to share a society there will be some racism and some friction. The U.S. has been more honest and more effective in dealing with this challenge than any other society I can think of. Still plenty of challenges ahead, but progress has been made.
44

Pelon,

New Mexico, USA 28/08/2008 04:47:53
The report is glossed over, over here, and it is a chilling possibility, but we don't want to give the little shats any facetime. There is not the "temper" in the US to lead many to think recurrences of racial violence are imminent, or latent.
Mr. Obama is a serious candidate for POTUS, as was his immediate challenger, Ms. Clinton. Ya gotta love it!
We are advancing into unknown territory, granted, but it is beginning to feel like home territory. There is no "mood of the people" to blame, and truly it would be small-cadre-conspiracy, if it occurs, God forbid.
I have noticed an increase in media opening up the ranks... old white men ain't cuttin' it these days, I guess. Ya have to think McCain's brush can be wide, and political paint easily sticks to talking heads with experience as "establishment voices". Yea, the old boys are having a tough time now.
But:
Racial discrimination -- oot the door.
Sex discrimination -- right behind it.
Age discrimination -- not so fast, we will continue to be challenged.
The job? Get with it, or get out of it.
Ahhhh, change. Don't ya love it?!
45

XPIOLT,

Pulaski, NY 28/08/2008 12:10:41
Every good assasination needs good patsies while the real shooter/s walks away. Lee Harvey Oswald, Sirhan Sirhan, James Earl Ray, etc. All deeply disturbed, yes and I belive all were manipulated by those who were really going to do the job. Most of the nutjob aryan and KKK groups have been infilterated and funded by the Feds. They never no when they'll need a couple good fall guys. I dont think these clowns were suppose to get caught until after the assasination though. Adolph? Natasha? LOL, Man give me a break. Find and listen to the deathbed confession of E. Howard Hunt. Its been proven now that Sirhan Sirhan's bullet never even hit Bobby Kennedy. All patsies.
46

Sir Loin of Beef,

Cincinnati, OH 28/08/2008 13:02:31
One really trooubling aspect of this story is that I have to read it in a Scottish on-line newspaper! There has not been a peep of this in the American press.
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McCanuck,

cape breton, can 28/08/2008 13:11:56
As much as I admire Mr. Obama and his wife Michelle for their intelligence and courage, I hope he doesn't attain the presidency because the U.S. doesn't deserve them in the White House. I would be surprised if he is not assassinated if they do win. The general level of ignorance and sloth in the U.S. is incredible. I suggest that the Obama family would be better off leaving the dangerous and thankless world of federal politics and go back to a healthier lifestyle of corporate law. America and the world need the Obamas, but they sure do not need us. The assassination plot is just the beginning.
48

McCanuck,

cape breton,can 28/08/2008 13:16:03
Sorry to target the U.S. with the ignorance and sloth comment as we're no better here in Canada. That is why we elected a pro-Bush oil executive as a prime minister.
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ScottishHog,

Midcentral North America 28/08/2008 22:31:17
#49 Sir Loin

your comment is exactly why I am here reading this article, I know full well that every piece of news is filtered the the giant media corps. I read online the foreign and European news outlets, for I get a better picture of American BBC news and the Scotsman, for most of mews but I does find it in other sources as well. In America there is CNN the most liberal biased news group 2nd only NPR, although NPR does do some quite in depth news reports. Then there is FAUX news, and of course the ABC CBS and NBC puppets regurgitating chewed up bits of funneled info that is no good but to confuse, and entertain, keeping the American people at bay and stupid in their happy little consumer world.

Now do not get me wrong I am not a whack job nor a fanatic of any sort other than maybe some college football, ( that is American football ), I just see that the news is filtered and forcce fed to us with no nutrition.
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M.L. Bushman,

Sun River, MT 31/08/2008 13:48:27
Speaking as an American, you have to understand that here in the US, as well as in some parts of the world, racism is big business. Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and the like look for opportunities to "champion the cause of racism." This is marketing 101. Increase the value of your brand name with free publicity by "championing the cause" whenever and wherever you can and you get higher speaking fees somewhere down the road. If they were to let racism die, if we were somehow, despite their "championing the cause", to rise above racism, how would they and the others like them make their money? It is not in their interests to see racism die, in spite of their comments to the contrary.

It is in the interests of those who would enslave us the world over to see the rights and freedoms purportedly enjoyed in America stamped out. And those powers that truly be, the powers that rule America now, behind the scenes, all political frontmen and women of both parties aside, would love nothing more than to see all of us afraid to speak our piece. If these global forces succeed in reducing America to a socialist or totalitarian state, the rest of the world is toast and they know it. And slowly, but surely, these New Age tyrants are chipping away at the Constitution and our rights under several different cloaks of deception designed in the "interests of national security". The only thing these folk fear is the People of America waking up and realizing that even now they've been had. But when you have a Senator addressing the Democratic National Convention screaming "Wake up, America," that is merely a ploy to put more of us into a deeper sleep in thinking someone is on the watch.

Both parties in America are puppets and puppetry for a larger threat facing us all--whoever controls the money, owns the world. And don't think for one minute that the bankers of every country don't know that. If you can think it, or I can think it, it's already been done.

 

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