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Miliband calls for 'real change' but denies plotting leadership coup



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Published Date: 31 July 2008
DAVID Miliband yesterday insisted he was not "campaigning" for leadership of the Labour party – but refused to rule himself out of any future contest.
He was speaking after writing a newspaper article about the party's future, which made no mention of Gordon Brown and suggested that the government needed to offer "real change", provoking a storm of speculation about his motives.

He insisted he h
ad been prompted by the sense of "fatalism" in the party after its defeat in the Glasgow East by-election.

Denying claims he had launched a de facto leadership campaign, the Foreign Secretary insisted: "Gordon Brown is the leader of the Labour Party, and he will lead us forward to address the big issues."

Speaking at a news conference in London, he also said Mr Brown had the "values and the vision" to run the country successfully.

"Can Gordon lead us into the next election and win? Yes, I'm absolutely certain about that," Mr Miliband said.

Rumours of a possible coup against the Prime Minister have reached fever pitch at Westminster, with several back-benchers openly calling for him to quit and many others expressing their anger in private.

Mr Miliband yesterday refused to rule himself out of any leadership contest. But he said: "I'm not campaigning for anything other than a successful Labour government.

"I think that my article today was a challenge to David Cameron and not a challenge to Gordon Brown."

He said he believed the future of the country depended on a clear policy agenda based on strong values.

"Does Gordon Brown have those values and that vision? Yes."

He went on: "Gordon's leadership, I think, is one that has shown itself to be of strong values. It is one that has shown itself to have built a team around him that are able to make a contribution, and that is a good thing."

Earlier, he said he believed Mr Brown would view his Guardian article as a "contribution" to the revival of the government.

However, he declined to say Mr Brown was the only person who could lead the government through the current economic turbulence.

According to government sources, No10 has reacted with fury to the timing and tone of Mr Miliband's article – which came while Mr Brown was on holiday in Suffolk.

Many Labour back-benchers believe Mr Miliband must have realised the effect it would have, and that was trying to "put himself out there" should a vacancy for the top job arise.

However, few think he will mount a formal challenge.

Tony Lloyd, the chairman of the Parliamentary Labour Party, did not accept Mr Miliband had necessarily broken ranks with his article, which he described as "totally non-controversial".

The former Cabinet minister Peter Mandelson admitted Labour was "in some flux" and said it would be surprising if someone such as Mr Miliband "didn't address the challenges the government is facing".

Harriet Harman, Labour's deputy leader, reiterated her case that she was not planning a leadership bid, saying: "When a woman says no, she means no."

And Jacqui Smith, the Home Secretary, laughed off suggestions that Labour could be about to replace Mr Brown with someone "young and hip".

She said: "I don't think that's what we want at a time when people are worried about the economy."





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  • Last Updated: 30 July 2008 9:59 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Jock Politicaljunkie,

Glasgow 31/07/2008 00:25:37

Miliband says:

"I think that my article today was a challenge to David Cameron and not a challenge to Gordon Brown."

In other words, Brown is now an irrelevance and can be by-passed completely in taking the fight directly to Browns opposite number.

Interesting Conference looming!!


2

Jimmy Le Pie,

31/07/2008 00:30:39
What about Miliband as Prime Minister, Alan Johnston as deputy, Harriet Harridan as Chancellor and Cairns as Scottish Secretary.

THE SLEAZY DREAM TEAM
3

Mogwai Fear Santa,

31/07/2008 00:46:23
#2

In the immortal words of Nick Ross:

"Please, don't have nightmares."
4

Nevsky,

Moscow 31/07/2008 01:08:28
David Millibland!
5

TommyKaye,

UK 31/07/2008 01:41:45
Tony Bliar clone shut your eyes and it could be him the voice the pauses the bull shat.

Isnt David Milliband the guy who along with his brother put a million pound house into a trust to avoid paying inheritence tax or something sure that story will come up again soon, oh here it is now.....


How David Miliband avoided inheritance tax on Marxist father's £1.5million house

By Jonathan Oliver
Original version:

DAVID Miliband is living in a £1.5million London townhouse at the centre of a complex inheritance-tax avoidance scheme Gordon Brown has pledged to ban.

The Cabinet Minister, who is being urged to challenge Mr Brown for the Labour leadership, exploited an Inland Revenue loophole which has been used to reduce deathduty bills.

Mr Miliband lives with his wife Louise, a classical musician, in a four-storey terrace in ultra-fashionable Primrose Hill, North London.

Previously, the Georgian property had been the family home of his parents, Marxist sociologist Ralph and Marion, also a Left-wing academic.

Ralph died in 1994 aged 70, leaving his estate, then valued at £349,000, to his wife. But it is understood that shortly after his death, Marion and her sons David and Edward, who is also a Labour Minister, agreed a 'deed of variation'.

The move meant that 40 per cent of the equity of the Primrose Hill home was transferred to the sons, who were each given a 20 per cent share in the house.

Accountants say this unusual type of agreement is almost always drawn up in order to reduce a family's total death duty bill.

Mr Miliband's complicated arrangement will raise eyebrows among Labour colleagues, not least because it goes against his family's deeply-entrenched socialist background.

Belgian-born Ralph, who fled the Nazis in 1940, became in the Sixties and Seventies one of Britain's most celebrated intellectual disciples of Karl Marx, who famously frowned on the concept of "private property".

Ralph, who was originally called Adolphe but
6

Oldnat,

31/07/2008 02:07:08
#5 TommyKaye

Not exactly surprising! The good news, however, as these Thatcherite clones further to the Right, it leaves SLAB even more exposed. Do they weasel around with words like "ordinary" trying to pretend that they are still "in touch", or do they tell English Labour to stuff it, in which case they move from "institutional" Unionism to become another splinter group alongside SSP and Solidarity.

Nae prizes for the answer!
7

Anne,

Eaglesham 31/07/2008 06:34:07
When I saw the picture of David Milliband in yesterday's papers, I was irresistibly reminded of Lurch from "The Addams Family".

I can no longer take him seriously.
8

iain,

edinburgh 31/07/2008 07:07:05
Miliband is positioning himself to be PM 'next time'.
9

The Former Mr. Angry,

Perth 31/07/2008 08:27:43
The status quo with or without Brown at the helm has been disastrous for the UK. The "plotters" if they exist would be well advised to leave Brown to sink without trace and be replaced by Cameron in England and Salmond in Scotland. Then they have a remote chance that their careers could be revived in opposition. Why pick up the poisoned chalice?

A further problem is that Milliband is just too inexperienced and ingrained into the Labour ethos to turn in anything like a performance which would enthuse the electorate. In fact none of the "candidates" for PM would make it.
10

1745,

Edinburgh 31/07/2008 08:28:01
It would appear that Westminster politics are more popular with the Scotsman than those of it's home country. Time for th editorial staff to be replaced?
11

Breezy,

Argyll 31/07/2008 08:37:20
#13 The whole of Scotland know where the staff should be placed.
12

Boggle fey the Bog,

31/07/2008 08:37:37
Aye, the knives are out!

But maybe Macavity is following that old Mafioso dictat, of keeping your friends close, but your enemies closer!!

That could well explain his completely inept and lacklustre cabinet, starting with his Depute, right down to his Scotland Orifice team
13

donald,

glasgow 31/07/2008 08:51:14
English politics. Get rid.
14

AJ Fife,

31/07/2008 09:45:51
Miliband = even easier Tory victory = even more Westminster friction with Scottish govt = independence

All in all, David Miliband could be the very man!
15

Yeah1,

31/07/2008 09:51:03
#13 & #16

"It would appear that Westminster politics are more popular with the Scotsman than those of it's home country."

"English politics. Get rid."

Do you have any clue whatsoever about politics?

Westminster is seat of the UK government, that means 'Westminster politics' affect every part of the UK, including Scotland - hence articles like the above one to do with 'Westminster politics' is relevant to be included in the Scotsman.
16

Alan B,

31/07/2008 10:03:40
Cannot see why Miliband is even being touted. He would make a poor choice. Alan Johnston is the only credible candidate (apart from reid). He should bring Reid in as chancellor.
17

Peeablo,

UKSSR 31/07/2008 10:29:52
Milliband !!!

Be afraid, be very afraid. If true then would the last person leaving UK plc please blow out the candle.
18

John south of Soutra,

31/07/2008 10:41:32
#21 please tell me what John Reid qualifications are to be made chancellor, if you ran a company would you employ someone who was not an accountant or had any financial training as your Finance Director, this is the problem that we have, these people are all career politicians and have no concept of the business world or the real world for that matter
19

Scottish 'N British,

31/07/2008 10:45:41
19

OUCH!!


20

Reid? You mean Dr John Reid, former Home Secretary? C'mon, let's get with the programme - he's gone, retired.

Now with Celtic, is he not? If he returns, he'd be rightly accused of having 2 jobs, not fully representing his constituents, etc., and let's face it, no one in politics should be allowed to do that.

Except Eck Salmond.




20

Brian M,

edinburgh 31/07/2008 12:08:03
#23 does Broon the Buffoon not have 2 jobs - fulltime PM, yet MP for somewhere in his beloved Britain
21

Yeah1,

31/07/2008 12:21:14
#24

"does Broon the Buffoon not have 2 jobs - fulltime PM, yet MP for somewhere in his beloved Britain."

In that case Alex Salmond actually has three jobs - MSP for Gordon, MP for Banff and Buchan and First Minister.
22

JoeMcT,

BlairsFantasyIsland 31/07/2008 12:27:45
"Call for real change...."

In other words, the New Labour EXPERIMENT has ended in total failure.

Mission aborted, oh, and what WAS Plan B anyway???
23

Publius,

London 31/07/2008 12:39:03
#20 Alan B

Good afternoon Alan
Miliband is touting himself. And so are several horses.
The dark horse is really filly. Watch out for Harridan Harperson.
24

Bejjy,

31/07/2008 13:11:11
Rather that Miliband be made Prime Minister rather than the enemy of white men everywhere Harriet Harperson. Miliband would be the least of two evils.
25

Alan B,

31/07/2008 13:45:35
#Scottish 'N British

Reid has not retired as far as i know. Yes he is with celtic does have 2 jobs as he is also an mp.

He moved aside from his political career as brown and him do not get on. ie they cannot stand each other.

If brown was to go, then that could allow reid back in. While i cannot stand the labour party, he is one of the few credible politicians they have and is also a decent communicator.
26

Alan B,

31/07/2008 13:58:00
#John south of Soutra

The reason i said reid for chancellor is that labour need someone credible. He is one of the few politicians they have that comes across in a decent way ie a good communicator/debator and quite forceful. Most of the labour cabinet are poor quality.

I am just reflecting my view having watch him on the tv. In reality that is all most of us can do and we do not know whether they are actually any good at managing things. It is perception. He is probably too arogant given the view that a couple of first ministers held of him.

But i am talking about how labour can try to rectify there position. (quite happy to see them sink as i dislike them).

As for you point regarding whether he is qualified as a chancellor. To a degree i take your point. But that is how the whole political system works. Very few chancellors have any economic experience. Salmond is the first economicst politician i can remember. How many health minister know anything about and worked in the nhs previously etc. Dito for most other areas.

To some extent though the chancellor job is alway political and about selling the government of the day rather than being a technocrat (darlings problem). The clinton "its the economy stupid remark" is very true. Much of it is about the political perception. That is why brown got away with so much incompetence why there.

Labour need a political figure that can take on Osbourne and reid would in a debate take him to the cleaners. (does not mean actually better at running the treasury).

As for what qualification to run the treasury. To a large extent brown made the most important and very good decision to make the BOE independent. This means that the most important economic decisions are taken by a group of professional economists.

The rest of running the treasury is much easier. The basics are about balancing the budget over the economic cycle (or running a small deficit) etc. The real problem could be if the best way to ru
27

Alan B,

31/07/2008 14:00:05
Many mps have 2 jobs. Either they are mps and ministers or mps with an outside parliamentary interests ie jobs.
28

Alan B,

31/07/2008 14:02:23
got cut of in #30

The rest of running the treasury is much easier. The basics are about balancing the budget over the economic cycle (or running a small deficit) etc. The real problem could be if the best way to run an economy is low tax in a democracy if the people vote for higher taxes and public services in the short term you are goosed to a certain extent. The role of chancellor minus monetary policy is largely about tax and spend. Having rules governing debt levels ie eu type rules is probably more important as it would stop the government of the day making very short term decisions eg brown.

29

Scottish 'N British,

31/07/2008 14:11:11
29

I meant to highlight Salmond's hypocrisy in representing 2 sets of constituents as an MP and MSP.

As you say Dr. Reid remains an MP, but I'm not too sure about ambition to return (hence "gone, retired").

I'm a big fan of him and would welcome his return to frontline politics.

30

Yeah1,

31/07/2008 14:17:58
John Reid is still an MP but he plans to leave Parliament at the next election, so is unlikely to return to frontline politics.
31

Scottish 'N British,

31/07/2008 14:33:10

I'd be keen on hearing what he has to say on the matter now.

What a thorn in Eck's side he'd be...
32

Alan B,

31/07/2008 14:37:30
#Scottish 'N British

Without Reid there are few left if any of any decent quality within the labour ranks.

They no longer have the generation of smith and cook.
33

kimba,

31/07/2008 15:00:17
Miliband is a good northern lad,but, THE PEOPLE OF ENGLAND WANT CAMERON, why, BECAUSE HE WILL SET ENGLAND FREE FROM THE SHACKLES OF THE TARTAN RAJ!
34

Scottish 'N British,

31/07/2008 15:11:49
36

You had me believing you for a minute, there - Smith and Cook, is it?

LOL

But, OK, if we're to accept that as an unbiased appraisal on Westminster, I'd love to read your views on Maxwell, Stevenson, Salmond et al.

Lightweight and second rate springs to mind, as any viewer of Holyrood's proceedings would surely testify!!

FMQ

Salmond's answer to question from Scottish Labour/Scottish Lib Dem/Scottish Conservative

"Could I just say to ........"

LOL
35

Traquir , Alba,

31/07/2008 16:36:57
It looks like game is on for a challenge to Broon :

From Today's London Times :

"David Miliband quits foreign trip to spark new rumours of challenge to Brown"

"David Miliband has sparked fresh speculation that he is about to leave his job as Foreign Secretary to challenge Gordon Brown after suddenly cancelling a four-day foreign trip, and holding what was interpreted as a 'farewell' meeting with his staff."

"In a move sparking further leadership speculation, it emerged that Mr Miliband had earlier this week assembled several close aides in his office and told them how grateful he had been for all of their efforts. The meeting, touted by some involved as a leaving summit in everything but name, led to rumours spreading around the Foreign Office that Mr Miliband was about to resign."

"A source who works closely with staff in the Foreign Office said: "They tell me something's definitely up with Miliband. Out of the blue, he pulled his closest people in for a meeting and told them how wonderful it had been to work with them. They said it was almost a leaving speech in everything but name.

"He definitely gave the impression that he was going somewhere."

see - tinyurl.com/6ehytn

The Glasgow East earthquake looks to be set
to topple Broon and hopefully help to implode
the Labour party completely.
36

kenbo9,

31/07/2008 16:39:43
Come on, MPs don't represent their constituents, they represent their party. If they represented their constituents they wouldn't even have party whips. So 2 jobs or 3 jobs isn't really an issue as it's all the same job!
37

Scottish 'N British,

31/07/2008 16:46:50
39

Glasgow East earthquake =

11,277 Separatists
14,897 Unionist

35,879 Naebody


Aye, the Separatists are on the march right enough...


38

Traquir , Alba,

31/07/2008 16:54:59
41 Scottish 'N British

You seem a tad uneducated or perhaps
desperate in categorizing pro-independence
parties such The Greens, Scottish Socialists and
Solidarity as Unionists.

Slàinte mhor
39

megz,

glasgow 31/07/2008 17:04:19
#37 hopefully the shackles will come off soon and we can go our seperate ways.
40

Andrew Allan,

31/07/2008 17:34:56
#41.Scottish 'N British.,

Just out of interest 'Scottish 'N British', if you had to choose between your Scottishness and your britishness, which side would you back up first?
41

Braes of Glenmiller,

Kent Brockman's lapels 31/07/2008 18:55:55
Heard that Milliband has cleared his desk, cancelled all official Foreign Office engagements, and said, "Byee" to his staff.

Jumping or being pushed.....or maybe the earthquake has just reached London.

I love rumours.....but this one seems to have legs.
42

Braes of Glenmiller,

Last with the carrier pigeon 31/07/2008 18:57:51
#39.......sorry to repeat.

Mind you it's worth it.
43

An Greumach Mor,

Scotland 31/07/2008 19:14:50
Well if Milliband says he is not going to betray his leader then you can trust him. He is a labour MP of the highest calibre. Telling lies would be out of character for a man like him.
44

An Greumach Mor,

Scotland 31/07/2008 19:18:15
On the subject of Milliband. Watching him at last years Labour conference was laughable.

It was the similar to watching a Beatles tribute band and giving them credit as the next great rock act.

It is easy to copy Tony Blair's mannerism but not his abilty.

Brown is finished but are the labour party ready for milliband and a possible general election ? Will self interest over weigh public good in this issue as it does so often with labour
45

Traquir , Alba,

31/07/2008 19:18:52
46 Braes of Glenmiller,

"#39.......sorry to repeat.

Mind you it's worth it."

No problem and the gossip is growing

"11 minutes ago

Two Labour MPs went public with calls for David Miliband to be sacked as Foreign Secretary after he failed to quell speculation he is planning a challenge to Gordon Brown's leadership of the party."

"Serial rebel Bob Marshall-Andrews accused Mr Miliband of "pretty contemptible politics" and said his behaviour had been "duplicitous"."

"And Geraldine Smith said: "I think this article has been done quite deliberately to stir things up and I think it's totally unacceptable behaviour from a senior Cabinet minister." She added: "If David Miliband was placed back on the backbenches then I think he would become the nonentity that he was before his accelerated promotion."

see - tinyurl.com/6yn9vk

All getting pretty nasty - it is going to be
fun watching Labour implode :)
46

An Greumach Mor,

Scotland 31/07/2008 19:22:09
re #37 Kimba

Gordon Brown is as much just as much an EnglishmMAN as you are. He is definately not Tartan and he is far from being a radge.
47

wattie>x 1,

PLYMOUTH 31/07/2008 21:47:18
Both Milliband's are from a political"privileged family
and are more than likely to be politically ambitious and "opportnistic".

Their father - I believe - was highly regarded and respected as a leading Marxist so, both sons have the proper back-up for any future political office!
48

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01/08/2008 02:01:56
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49

Scottish 'N British,

01/08/2008 08:38:41
42

Go on then, educate me...

1. what percentage of the poll did the MAIN separatist SNP get?

2. what percentage of all registered voters did the SNP poll?



Like I said, "the Separatists are on the march right enough..."

 

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