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Litter louts getting clean away as fines system fails



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Published Date: 15 January 2009
MORE than one in four Scottish councils did not hand out a single fine to people for dropping litter in the past year, The Scotsman can reveal.
About £100 million is spent every year sweeping away rubbish, yet most councils rarely use the powers they have to fine the litter louts responsible.

Only Glasgow is bucking the trend, handing out 5,301 fines in 12 months.

All 32 councils were
asked how many £50 on-the-spot fines they had handed out between April 2007 and April 2008.

Nine had not used the powers to issue fines at all, 14 gave out fewer than ten fines, and almost two-thirds issued fewer than 25.

Edinburgh issued a mere 226, despite getting thousands of complaints about litter and spending £10 million on street cleaning.

In a study by Keep Scotland Beautiful, half of those interviewed admitted they still dropped litter, but they said they would be more inclined to stop if greater use was made of fines.

Donna Nivan, the programme manager for Keep Scotland Beautiful, urged councils to start using their powers to tackle the problem.

"In the last few years, some of the bigger authorities who do have the biggest problems are taking on the powers and do use them,'' she said. "Glasgow is the biggest example. A lot of the other authorities could certainly do more, especially those that are doing nothing."

Most councils spend more than £1 million a year clearing up litter.

Ms Nivan said: "If you are spending millions of pounds clearing up, then that would suggest to me you need to spend more trying to prevent it in the first place. In the long run, that could save money."

In Glasgow, a huge campaign has taken place using some 50 litter wardens to hand out fines to try to clean up the streets; even children have been targeted.

A Glasgow City Council spokesman said: "We are making progress, but we certainly wouldn't claim to be there as yet. We've got to change people's attitudes. It's a cultural change for people because, unfortunately, some habitually drop litter."

Richard Lochhead, the environment secretary, said: "Litter remains an unsightly problem for urban areas, affecting quality of life and community morale. It is also a problem that costs money to deal with.

"Clearly, we all need to do more to reduce the amount of waste in the street, on our roads, on railways lines, in rivers and at other areas where it is an expensive nuisance."

BACKGROUND

LOCAL authorities have the power to hand out on-the-spot fines for dropping anything from a crisp packet to a cigarette butt, under the Environmental Protection (Scotland) Act 1990.

If a culprit does not pay the fine, they can be taken to court, where they can face a fine of up to £2,000 and a criminal record.

They have 14 days to pay the fine, and would then be sent a reminder letter by the council.

If they still continued to fail to pay, the matter would be referred to the procurator-fiscal.

Similar legislation exists allowing fines to be handed out for dog fouling and fly tipping.







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  • Last Updated: 14 January 2009 10:33 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 15/01/2009 02:47:36


Well this IS Good!, is it not?


We Do not want to go here!, take a look!,.....



A woman was handed an £80 litter fine after her toddler grandchild dropped some crisps on the pavement.
Barbara Jubb had picked up the packet of Quavers when it fell from the hand of 20-month- old Emily.
But she failed to pick up two stray crisps that spilled from the bag.
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Cost a packet: Emily Jubb and a Quaver
Within seconds two council litter wardens swooped and issued her with an £80 fine.
"This is diabolical," said Mrs Jubb, 57. "£80 is a lot of money, especially if it's just because a baby dropped two Quavers.
"I saw these two women coming toward me with clipboards. One of them produced a card and said, 'We are from the council and I'm going to fine you for littering'.
"I said, 'What litter - it's just two Quavers, it was my granddaughter, she dropped them'."
"People were standing around listening-they were just laughing, they couldn't believe it was happening."
The incident happened when Mrs Jubb was waiting for a bus with her daughter Selena, Emily's mother.
They were on their way back to their home in Crawley, West Sussex, after a hospital visit in which Selena was diagnosed with a heart condition.
Mrs Jubb added: "It was only when I got on the bus that I read the notice and realised they had fined me £80."
Selena, 29, said: 'At first we didn't realise we had been fined. These two wardens had come up to us and given us a notice.
"When I read it on the bus I realised my mum had been given an £80 fine. Luckily Emily didn't have a clue what was going on. I think they are targeting vulnerable people."
A spokesman for Crawley Council said: "People leaving their rubbish behind - or dropping litter anywhere other than a bin - is totally unacceptable.
"It annoys responsible residents who help us to keep the town clean and tidy and the council will not tolerate unsociable behaviour."
The council did however allow Mrs Jubb's appeal
2

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 15/01/2009 02:52:58


Awww! Take a look, at the we wee 'Tot',

Original Story, courtesy Google Search engine,...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-455443/Toddler-fined-89-dropping-crisps.html

3

Aslan,

Edinburgh 15/01/2009 03:49:41
The above story works for me - the wardens aren't targeting 'vulnerable' people ... just stupid ones.
4

Anonym,

munching bio-degradable snacks 15/01/2009 05:17:43
Chuckles, I agree with your general point here, but it's not all good.

Here's why. You said, "We do not want to go here!"...and then provided a news story which shows we already went 'there'...

D'you see what I mean?

It IS a good thing that councils are not going completely mad with litter fines, but it's NOT good that they have gone mad in the past, and that they have the power to do so again anytime they feel like it.
5

Anonym,

15/01/2009 05:28:41
And by 'councils', I do of course mean the over zealous litter wardens in their employ... apparently a more senior employee was thoughtful enough to 'allow' an appeal.

So that's alright then.
6

Simon,

15/01/2009 06:43:34
Judging by the state of our pavements and countryside, dropping litter or dumping rubbish seems to be a national pastime that we could win awards at.
I despair that the majority of us assumes that it's quite acceptable to clear out our pockets rather than put it in a bucket.
7

fife runner,

15/01/2009 06:48:05
if you believe you have heard the full story in #1 then you are all taken in. I do not believe for one minute it was only a few pieces of quavers. they had probably seen something before this.
8

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 15/01/2009 07:22:36
Litter will take care of itself if only the manufacturers were obliged to BUY back all empty wrappers, cans, boxes, etc. Who would dump a crisp packets if it was worth £1?
9

One-man-bucket's older twin,

15/01/2009 07:37:04
Charging deposits on cans and bottles would probably help. Also, instead of fining litterers, get the cleansing department to dump a load in their stair, garden, car etc, with a notice put up saying why they did it and who is to blame. Peer pressure is the only thing that will stop the lazy bu99ers dropping litter while standing next to a wheelie bin.
10

an interested party,

15/01/2009 09:19:46
so with all the fine the reduction in cost to the taxpayer is what £ 99,998,000 or so

and adding the cost of the wardens back up over 100m

punitive fines will never negate the need to clean up the rubbish

11

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 15/01/2009 09:39:35
#1:

The thing is Charles, if they start ramping up the enforcement and issuing more fines, the example you cite is PRECISELY the kind of scenario that will be targetted.

Why? Because it's easy. Finding the culprits of serious littering and dealing with the filthy scum is a bit more challenging. The filth created by them is the source of a health risk, de-moralization etc but I somehow doubt if they will ever be prosecuted because it will take a bit of work on th epart of the council to track them down and catch them.

You should know that in this crazy society we live in, it is the norm to crack down hard on trivia to raise money, yet the serious problems generally get ignored.
12

H Callahan,

15/01/2009 09:47:42
Another example of local authorities spending more money on talk than on actually doing something useful

Anyway, good on Glasgow for showing the way.
13

Elephant,

Linlithgow 15/01/2009 09:51:44
Its the dog dirt that drives me bonkers. And the pee. Even the responsible dog owners who leave a relay of neatly tied bags of poo to retrieve on their way back from walkies annoys me. Hey, maybe the litter crews can target those little bag droppers? A tax on doggy doos by the back door - perfect!
14

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 15/01/2009 09:59:36
#13:

Dog dirt is not really the problem. Given a good dose of rain, it dissappears.

The problem is stuff that doesn't get washed away by rain---thing like fast food wrappers, empty lager bottles, soiled nappies etc etc.
15

DeniseX,

15/01/2009 10:55:21
We can be fined for almost every trivial offence today and in many cases leading to a criminal record. It is a means of controlling us all.
16

Artemis,

15/01/2009 12:38:30
People who drop litter should be controlled and stopped from doing it. If the council's having to spend £10 million a year picking up litter, that's £10 million a year not going into other services. There's no excuse for dropping litter - it's selfish and lazy and disgusting.
17

DeniseX,

15/01/2009 14:32:33
I have just been shopping and the only 'litter' I could see was leaves, the ones that fall from trees. The council should sweep these leaves more often to avoid accidents.
18

antifa,

15/01/2009 16:03:00
"Dog dirt is not really the problem. Given a good dose of rain, it dissappears."

But if there is a constant supply (which there is), then it's constantly around. It's a toxic substance (must more hamrful than 99% of litter) and those who distribute it around our streets should be warned, first and if they don't respond, dealt with harshly.
19

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 15/01/2009 16:57:17
#18:

Dog dirt does not attract rats.
Dog dirt does not blow around all over the place.
Dog dirt is easily bio-degradable.

I remember a time long before all the knee-jerking about dogs started and there really wasn't any significant problem with dirt being around. OK, is was occasionally inconvenient if you trod in some, but nothing that a bit of determination and 10 minutes with a scrubbing brush and dettol couldn't sort out.

Now, with the advent of the risk-averse minority being listened to, every park in the country has bins stuffed full of the damn stuff (usually overflowing) wrapped up in little plastic bags. In summer, these bins stink, they attract flies and are probably a serious bio-hazard. As usual, the knee-jerkers have swapped in insignificant inconvenience for a real, dangerous and unpleasant hazard to health and well-being.

Well done the lot of you! Maybe you might want to exgage your brains next time, before you pressurise the powers that be into implimenting cr4p (literally) legislation?
20

Finlang,

Hong Kong 15/01/2009 19:03:35
I remember six years ago a local woman in Hong Kong being apprehended by four - yes four - Official Litterati, and fined on the spot around £120. For accidentally dropping her house keys. It didn't matter that she picked them up immediately.

There is a kind of madness in official zealotry, but the size of the HK fine (about the same today) is more than enough to deter actual litter-droppers. Hong Kong streets are pretty well clean and litter-free. Anyone who has visited will attest to that.

The £50 "deterrent" in Scotland is a joke dreamed up by a half-asleep council pen-pusher.


 

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