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Linda Fabiani in row over talks with radical Muslim



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Published Date: 12 October 2008
A SCOTTISH Government minister held talks with a controversial Muslim leader formerly linked to Palestinian fundamentalist group Hamas, Scotland on Sunday can reveal.
Europe minister Linda Fabiani is under fire after her January meeting with Mohammed Sawalha, who was accused by US courts of helping Hamas in the 1990s when the group was carrying out bombings across Israel.

Also present at the meeting was another Muslim leader, Anas Altikriti, a leading figure criticised by UK ministers for backing a boycott of Holocaust Memorial Day.

The meeting was set up to discuss plans for an IslamFest event in Scotland. Sawalha and Altikriti were invited for discussions because they had organised a similar event in London known as IslamExpo.

The IslamFest event is being organised by the Scottish Islamic Foundation, the group which attracted controversy earlier this year after SNP ministers approved funding for it of more than £400,000. The group's chief executive is Osama Saeed, an SNP parliamentary candidate.

Labour last night said ministers should be "more careful" about who they deal with.

But the Scottish Government pointed out that UK ministers had themselves met the pair in previous years.

London-based Sawalha, president of the British Muslim Initiative, was first linked to Hamas following a BBC Panorama investigation which alleged he was involved in the funding and support of Hamas in the 1990s.

Sawalha was named in a US indictment as a co-conspirator in a bid to finance Hamas activities in Israel. The indictment claimed that, in August 1992, Sawalha had discussed plans "to revitalise Hamas terrorist activities in the West Bank". In 2005, asked about his links, Sawalha is reported to have declared: "I have no comment on the question of military activity."

The meeting with Fabiani was then followed by another between the Scottish Islamic Foundation and First Minister Alex Salmond at which the group was promised funding of £200,000 for the Scottish event.

The IslamExpo event, held in London earlier this year, was the subject of controversy after UK ministers decided to boycott the entire event. Communities minister Hazel Blears declared afterwards: "It was clear that because of the views of some of the organisers, and because of the nature of some of the exhibitors, this was an event that no minister should attend – organisers like Anas Altikriti, who believes in boycotting Holocaust Memorial Day."

However, the SNP Government last night defended its decision to meet the IslamExpo organisers.

A spokesman for Fabiani said: "The former Labour London mayor Ken Livingstone suggested meeting the official organisers of IslamExpo, and Ms Fabiani met with them in that capacity to hear about their experiences of running this highly successful inter-community event.

"It would be totally inappropriate to have such routine matters determined by unproven allegations against any individual, who has not been questioned in this country for any wrongdoing."

He added: "Scotland has strong inter-faith and inter-community relations, mercifully free of much of the internet-based smear and slander that goes on elsewhere.

"In any event, IslamFest will be a specifically Scottish event, with its own distinct focus, and is being organised by the Scottish Islamic Foundation. The previous administration had agreed funding for an IslamFest event in Scotland, which was progressed by this Government."

However, Labour MSP Frank McAveety said: "The SNP minister should be much more careful about whom she is meeting. And she needs to be particularly careful about this when she is giving substantial sums of taxpayers' money to people with such links."

A spokesman for the Scottish-Islamic Foundation said: "IslamExpo Ltd were invited to take part in discussions on the opportunities and successes a separate Islamfest project could provide in Scotland, given their experience in this area.

"The delegation they sent was their choice and at their own expense. We understand that Mr Sawalha has met a number of UK Government ministers over the years, so there is nothing unusual in this."

The full article contains 664 words and appears in Scotland On Sunday newspaper.
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1

Richardinho,

12/10/2008 01:05:41
Fortunately this isn't New York.Maybe the SoS should remember that. Quite frankly I couldn't give a damn if someone a Minister had talks with had some link with Hamas.
2

Eyesrolledindespair,

12/10/2008 01:33:50
"But the Scottish Government pointed out that UK ministers had themselves met the pair in previous years."

So she's doing no different from previous UK Ministers, but it's news worthy now WHY?

Seems to me the Scotsman is stirring ratial tensions up a bit with this....

Also will be interesting to see if this post is deleted!

I will copy and paste it later.
3

Cabbie,

10th floor 12/10/2008 02:03:13
Another non story from the North Britishman
4

Eyesrolledindespair,

12/10/2008 02:13:37
should have read "Racial"... one SkullSplitter too many!
5

W Smith,

Middle East 12/10/2008 03:45:22
This is just the tip of the iceberg.

Just wait to you see Salmond doing a tour of the Middle East.

Thats when the penny will drop for the more moderate SNP voters.

I've been saying for a while now and I'll say it again:

THE SNP ARE A RADICAL, TERRORISTS SUPPORTING, BUNCH OF FIFTHT COLULMN LEFTIES.

Some of us will not forget Salmond's 'performance' after the incident at Glasgow Airport which involved him and MacAskill rushing down to the nearest mosque to show solidarity with their "asian" friends.

BTW
Another good article by The Telegraph this morning "Hanged for being a Christian".

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/3179465/Hanged-for-being-a-Christian-in-Iran.html

Salmonds friend the President in Iran is ammending the Iranian Penal Code to ensure that any muslim males converting to Christianity will face the death penalty - under Sharia Law called "apostasy".

Any comments from the SNP's Osama Saeed on this?

It will be interesting to see how the SNP supporters can blame this on Bush, Israel, British colonialism, the Butchers Apron, etc.

I'm sure they'll manage it.
6

Richardinho,

12/10/2008 03:53:05
#5 Why have you got a problem with Alex Salmond visiting a Mosque? Who are the 'moderate SNP voters' who would have?
7

Willie Macleod,

Wick 12/10/2008 04:54:56
#5 Smears and guilty by association. Where will all this end.

Alex Salmond is a fellow Scot and First Minister and deserves to be treated with respect. As we all do no matter our opinion.

I have said the same of other politicians and other parties.
8

somerferg,

Perth 12/10/2008 05:08:52

W Smith - another well thought out comment from you I see - insightful and full of well balanced, intelligent analysis - no ?? Oh yes I've just remembered your spite filled, insulting rant is up to your usual standard i.e. why let the truth get in the way of slagging off the SNP. As for the journalist who wrote this piece of junk journalism - well its up to his usual standard - RUBBISH. Desperate stuff from the supporters of the monkeys with red rosettes.
9

Willie Macleod,

Wick 12/10/2008 05:18:05
Further to my points at #7 We should start from the point that there are good decent people in all parties.

Party leaders past and present First Ministers past and present have worked and will work for what is best for Scotland.

So let us dicuss debate Independence Devolution and all the issues with respect for all.
10

donald,

glasgow 12/10/2008 05:22:11
Never thocht the Northbritishperson could get nay lower.
11

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 12/10/2008 07:05:51
You can accurately judge a Party by the company it keeps. Watch out for Mrs S's first public appearance in a burkha. Anything for Arab gold.
12

Stephen fae Scotland,

San Francisco (& Edinburgh) 12/10/2008 07:17:38
WHat he hell are the Gnats up to?

Simple question - is the so-called Scottish Gnat Government also promoting a Christian Festival? No? Oh, that's a rude and divisive question is it?

Man - ANY one that votes for this shower of idiots, populists, panderers and extremists is betraying Scotland, its culture and history.
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daveserviceman,

edinburgh 12/10/2008 08:06:09
I garantee that scotland will be a muslem country with sharia law only within the next ten years, it is being sold by the snp hand over fist,
They are still showing solidarity with the Terror supporters like they supported the IRA in the 60's and 70's When I was in NI
15

Garry Otton,

ScottishMediaMonitor.com 12/10/2008 08:54:02
Stop the religious-obsessed SNP. Register for the free newsletter from secularism.org.uk. Fight religious privilege in Scotland.
16

John S,

12/10/2008 09:01:36
I have to say that the Scottish Government (SNP) were wrong to approve funding for this IslamFest and meeting Mohammed Sawalha and Anas Altikriti.
But the Scottish Government pointed out that UK ministers had themselves met the pair in previous years. This is a poor excuse from the SG.
Can the following expect similar funding from the SNP lead Scottish Government if they wish to hold Fests-Protestants,Catholics,Buddists,Sikhs,Jews,Mormons,Hindus,Bahá'í Faith, Jehovah's Witnesses etc
This is £400,000 x 10 Fests (so far) equals £4.0 million
We could have annual festivals this would only cost £4.0 million plus per year.
Applications for the £400,000 grant to the Scottish Government.
17

Cauchy Riemann,

Wales 12/10/2008 09:12:30
We have the usual hypocrisy from sleazy Labour - who have positively courted radical Muslims.

The SNP are wrong on this issue. Courting Muslims with radical views legitimises these views, and sidelines more moderate Muslim voices.

"The former Labour London mayor Ken Livingstone suggested meeting...."

Quoting an idiot like Livingston who invited and became pally with Yusuf al-Qaradawi (who supports suicide bombings and implementation of sharia) is pretty dumb of the SNP.

"Scotland has strong inter-faith and inter-community relations..."

There is nothing wrong with this. But as stated above - by associating with radical views the SNP is legitimising them and sidelining more moderate ones.
18

Kenny A,

12/10/2008 09:24:04
Their is a place for Islam but it is not Scotland.

I respect the beliefs of others but see little respect from the followers of the prophet for others.

This is relativly new compared with the ages past when Islam was more than just a relegion but also an ideal where scholars and others who were persecuted could seek sanctuary

Now it is a case of murder your own daughters for daring to have boyfriends, chop various parts of people for little reason and bring back the dark ages.

It is said it is only a minority of Muslims who look at matters in this way but it is a substancial minority who are more than willing to force others into their view point.

The fact that the SNP is talking to these people turns my guts. Where I am from we have had muslims in the community for many a year, where I live now it is the same, they all just want to get away from the fanatics and practice their religion as decreed by the prophet, not some berserk mullah who thinks he has a kinky new interpretation of the word, which inevitably will involve bombs, bullets and the mandatory 72 virgins.

Where are all these virgins coming from, Walmart, special offer second hand virgins only slightly used and abused, Come forth my brothers who have blown themselves apart along with the innocents this one is fresh, just had a shower and seen the surgeon, dont be long now because the que of the self exploders is growing. These desert kamikasies will be real pissed of when their various bits land up in the Islamic valhalla and they find out all the virgins are shagged out and going for a smoke break.

No more voting for the SNP for me

19

TWC,

Ayrshire 12/10/2008 09:30:12
#5. you are the extremist here. If the guy hasn't broken the law then anybody can deal with him. Terrorism, immigration etc is reserved so if there's a problem with this guy it's up to Westminster.

He Supported Hamas eh? Frank McAveety should remember some New Labour members used to support socialism before they became conservative.
BTW this happened in January, this is just desperate muck slinging. I'm definitely going to vote for somebody else.
20

Mallory,

Edinburgh 12/10/2008 09:51:54
The standard of spelling on these pages is dropping daily.

Is this caused by dyslexia, poor teaching and educashon or an over reliance on texting?
21

Arthur Teak ,

12/10/2008 09:56:19
#14 "I garantee that scotland will be a muslem country with sharia law only within the next ten years, it is being sold by the snp hand over fist,
They are still showing solidarity with the Terror supporters like they supported the IRA in the 60's and 70's When I was in NI"

You can guarantee no such, thing but you could learn to spell and use grammar properly in "the next ten years". If you really hate Muslim's ask yourself who has allowed unfetterd immigration in order to provide cheap labour and reduced wages.

As for: "showing solidarity with the Terror supporters like they supported the IRA in the 60's and 70's When I was in NI", this is just a lie. If you want this type of action go to Celtic Park, that's were terrorism, Irish and otherwise is celebrated...and not a lot of support there, for the SNP!
22

Guga II,

Rockall 12/10/2008 09:56:47
Here we go again, Eddie Barnes trying to spread more propaganda for the New Labour Sleaze and Corruption Party (North British Branch).

Any elected government, regardless of its political persuasion, is there to represent all of the people, even if some of them are Muslims, or Jews, or even Catholics. For that reason, I cannot see why there can be any legitimate objections to either New Labour or the SNP talking to Muslims.

However, because of the current financial problems in the country, most of which have been brought about in Scotland because of our status as a colony controlled by the English who have total control over our revenues, we do not really have sufficient funds to be forking out £400,000 on any kind of "fest", be it Islamic or otherwise.
23

Arthur Teak ,

12/10/2008 10:01:43
18# "At last. There is more to come on this one."

Portentious nonsense or is it pretentious? No matter, your empty ramble is meaningless without expansion into a cogent argument. Did I misss the part of your post with the searing political insight?
24

Scythia,

Glasgow 12/10/2008 10:08:47
He's in the same group as Osama Sayeed, the SNP's erudite prospective MP for Glasgow. The MAB, a front for the proscribed Hamas supporting Muslim Brotherhood .

"The Brotherhood's stated goal is to instil the Qur'an and Sunnah as the "sole reference point for ... ordering the life of the Muslim family, individual, community ... and state"

The Islam Online described him (http://www.islamonline.net/Arabic/news/2004-03/19/article08.shtml)

"..manager of the political committee of the International Organization of the Brothers [i.e. the Muslim Brotherhood] in Britain.."

The SNP are alienating their own supporters, people have a right to be worried about the direction they are taking this country.

- State funded Islamic schools.
- State funded Islamic festival.
- State funded Islamic foundation.
- Tacit consent to Sharia courts (arbitration).
- Tacit consent to Halal meat preparation (slaughter).
- A Prospective MP member of the Muslim Brotherhood.
- AK47 wielding councillor in their ranks.
- First Minister canvassing Islamic states for funding.

Whether through boundless naiveté or by intention, this country will end up like The Netherlands at this rate.
25

Grahamski,

Falkirk 12/10/2008 10:18:00
TWC
You asked: 'He Supported Hamas eh?'
No, he didn't 'support' Hamas he was a military commander in Hamas at a time when they were engaged in a brutal terrorist campaign which murdered innocent civilians.

You also make the point that this happened in January as if it were old news, nothing could be further from the truth. The SNP kept this hidden until it was revealed by a FOI request last week.

You claim that this is mud-slinging, can I suggest that it is exactly the kind of investigative journalism which was so entusiastically applauded by the SNP when the Labour Party was being investigated?
26

The_Reiver,

12/10/2008 10:37:55
SNP strategy rule book

Rule no 1.

Q You are caught out doing something which you should not have done. What should I do?

A Attempt to justify your action by saying that because others have also been caught out doing the same thing that it is OK. OR find someone else to blame (that always works -remember Trotsky?).
27

Eric D,

Alba 12/10/2008 10:39:37
There’s an old Arab proverb that states: "Once the camel’s head is inside the tent, the whole body is certain to follow." I'm afraid the head is already there.
28

TWC,

Ayrshire 12/10/2008 10:44:39
It's Still small beans Grahamski.
I am more concerned about the fact that My pension is about £98 while an MP can get £100 for 4 unreceipted lunches or that the stock market knows what happened at a tresury meeting before the public and can rip off Millions.
History tells us we are no better than anybody else from Iraq right back to the opium wars.
We even contributed to the Palestinian problem
29

Richardinho,

12/10/2008 10:59:08
Let me remind people that muslims are tax payers too. Catholics and protestants both get plenty of money spent on them (quite rightly too) through their schools. Salmond has close links with church leaders from all religions. At times like these he is right to try and unite the country and heal differences. If anyone wants to not vote SNP out of protest at them not being racist enough, frankly I'm delighted.
30

Kyle N Carrick,

12/10/2008 11:54:58
26. The Labour party were being investigated for what they later admitted were 120 breaches of election law.... the Labour party were being investigated for sleaze illegal donations and selling cancer-advertsing exemptions, more lies and deceipt about which is admitted today, as detailed on another page of this newspaper.

Fabiani is being "investigated" for meeting someone with possibly dubious conections...meanwhile Blair met Ghadaffi and Sein Finn, and senior UK military commanders want to negotiate with the Taleban.... No one attacked Blair for his meetings as they were necessary..... the difference is Unionists are just doing what they do best here - hypocrisy and spin.
31

Joe McLaine,

12/10/2008 12:02:14
From Scotsman comments on the 5th of September.


18 Joe McLaine, 05/09/2008 15:12:13

From parliamentary answers:

Fergus Ewing: The Scottish Islamic Foundation was constituted in January 2008 and formally launched in June 2008. Since January 2008 Cabinet Secretaries and ministers have met the Scottish Islamic Foundation on the following occasions:

On the 17th of January 2008, the Minister for Europe, External Affairs and Culture met:

Osama Saeed, Scottish Islamic Foundation.
Humza Yousaf, Scottish Islamic Foundation
Mohammed Sawalha, IslamExpo
Ismail Patel, IslamExpo
Anas Altikriti, IslamExpo
Officials from the Scottish Government.

Mohammed Sawalha is a HAMAS fundraiser and head of the Muslim Brotherhood Political committee. Patel and Altikriti are also senior figures in the MB/HAMAS. Osama and Humza are part of the Scottish contingent.

WTF are the SNP playing at? They have just given HAMAS half a million quid.


Why has this taken so long to appear?
32

Joe McLaine,

Gazza Central 12/10/2008 12:14:34
Vote Osama Saeed For Gaza Central

I can see it now: a security fence around the perimeter of the constituency with random Katyushen Rockets called "The Wrath of Martyrs" and "The Vengance of Allah" fired in the general direction of the west end.

The SNP have managed to give a wadge of our money to Hamas's Glasgow branch to promote an Islamist political agenda in Scotland in exchange for a few thousand votes.

PS

I understand the SNP will be running a shooting gallery at the fun fair at Islamfest. Any guesses who will be running it?
33

Budgie,

INCHINNAN 12/10/2008 12:23:36
The comments in this newspaper appear to be pervaded with SNP supporters who show contempt to those who hold a view which differs from theirs.
How perverse!
34

Joe McLaine,

12/10/2008 12:28:39
People who don't agree with the SNP are infidels and unbelievers. When independence comes, we will charge all non SNP voters a special tax to humiliate them and show them the benevolence of our rule.

This Jizya tax will be suplimented with Zakhat from Qatar to build new bridges and mosques and provide Halal haggis for the poor and needy.
35

Eric D,

Alba 12/10/2008 12:36:08
I note another anti-Scottish SNP drone, using the "R" word to kill off debate.
36

Budgie,

INCHINNAN 12/10/2008 12:52:35
This Islamafest thing is a nonsense. It would be more appropriate if they were to hold a festival in appreciation of their debt to us for affording them a (presumably) better lifestyle than the one they jettisoned in their countries of origin, and which they seem intent to emulate in our country - especially by propagating their rancid ideology.
37

Budgie,

INCHINNAN 12/10/2008 13:02:33
Mallory, Edinburgh. No 21.
Ewe ar so rite. Eye. Wht kan wee doo to corekt It?
The onlie wurd ewe hav spelled rite is "educashon"
38

Budgie,

INCHINNAN 12/10/2008 13:08:57
Joe McLaine. Post 32.
Thank you for your insights, which convinces me that I made a grave error when I last cast my vote.
I will never entrust the SNP to act in the interests of Scotland.
39

Joe McLaine,

12/10/2008 13:25:25
Quick historical summary of this.

1 The SNP do a deal with the Muslim Brotherhood through the MAB where Saeed delivers votes to the SNP through a religious fatwa.

2 Ahmad becomes MP as a result of the votes being directed to the SNP via this edict.

3 Humza Yousaf, Saeed's cousin starts working as Ahmad's parliamentary assistant

4 Saeed's dad is busy running the campaign for Muslim schools.

5 Salmond agrees to fund these madrassas.

6 Salmond gives our money to Saeed after he initially approached the previous administration under the Muslim Council of Scotland banner.

7 The SNP wins the election ( by one seat!) and the MCS disappears and a Muslim Brotherhood organisation (The SIF) appears to take the cash and consists of Saeed, his dad, his brother, his cousin, and various Hamas / MB individuals.

8 HAMAS and HAMAS (Scotland) have a meeting with Fabiani.

9 Al Jazeera look to open a bureaux in Scotland.

9 Wee Eck heads out to Qatar, turban in hand, to ask for some money.


And NONE of this breaks any rules! Well, you can say what you like about Wee Eck. Anyone that can pull this off is a force to be reckoned with.



40

chico y,

12/10/2008 13:36:48
Hey Eddie Barnes,

Next week's headline could be:

Salmond linked with AL quaeda through pakora eating shame.

Does anyone still buy this trash ? They really are struggling to come up with anything.

What's happeneing with the former Glasgow East liebour MP's expenses ? - Not interested, I wonder why.
41

Joe McLaine,

Gazza Central 12/10/2008 13:49:18
Hey Chica

I didn't realise SNP aparatchicos worked on a Sunday. Has your shift just started?

I think next weeks headline will read


SNP FUNDS HAMAS DAWA IN GAZZA CENTRAL

or

OSAMA SAEED
THE CALEDONIAN CALIPH

or

WEE ECK MEETS OOR WALEED:
SOAPY SOUTAR FUNDS MIDDLE EAST TOUR

42

chico y,

12/10/2008 14:02:40
Hey Shirley @ 42 - I'm not an SNP appartchik

But I don't like liebour crooks sending Scottish soldiers to illegal wars. Eck is trying to be constructive and help relations. Nobody is getting hurt.
43

Joe McLaine,

12/10/2008 14:16:44
Eck is trying to be constructive and help relations.

Nonsense. He is willing to treat with anyone and any organisation to achieve his aims. Remember he voted to keep Thatcher in power during a no confidence vote in the commons? Remember his deal with Murdoch and the Sun to get the catholic vote in the west of Scotland? Money from Soapy Soutar 'cause there's votes in bashing them gays.

** Wee Eck, Oor Waleed and Soapy Soutar. **

Now that is some alliance.
44

chico y,

12/10/2008 14:28:26
44- Shirley - you've convinced me, he's in cahoots with tories and Murdoch, sectarian and homophobic. Truly sounds like the anti-christ. Mmmmmm maybe not.

45

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12/10/2008 14:44:06
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12/10/2008 14:45:21
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Joe McLaine,

12/10/2008 14:46:23
Suggested Script for Oor Waleed - The Movie

Act 1 Scene 1

Oor Waleed and Soapy Soutar are sitting in the reception of the Scottish Government. Despite their differences, their shared hatred of homosexuality allows them and alliance.

Soapy Soutar: Have ye seen much o wee Eck?

Oor Waleed: Naw. No since Mullah Murdoch caught him fishin’ and hud im up in front o’ the Shariah Juvenile Court.

Soapy Soutar: Wiz ‘e aw right?
Oor Walled: Aye; he didnae use his right hon’ anyway.

Fat Boab appears.

Fat Boab: The First Caliph ‘ill see ye noo!

Oor Waleed and Soapy Soutar are shown into the First Caliph’s office.

Wee Eck: Jings, crivens help ma boab, its youz. Pull up a bucket.

Soapy and Oor Waleed sit down on their buckets.

Wee Eck: Noo whit are we goan tae dae aboot the Broons? That Daphne’s been puttin’ it aboot a bit, and as fir that Maggie, she’s ayways up the close wi’ some boy. And that Joe wears too many summits and is ayways hingin’ around the gymn.

48

The Tin Man,

12/10/2008 14:49:09
Allah akbar! It's time!

Also, there is not much wrong with an MSP demagogue giving his young daughter a loaded machine-gun (excusing this behavior by insinuating that giving a young girl a machine-gun is normal in Pakistan, which is highly insulting).

Next thing you know, the government will be giving the Church of Scotland money.
49

karinxxx,

12/10/2008 15:02:42
49 what about setting curtains on fire and doing time for it therby endangering many lives. what about getting drunk and knocking over old ladies and punching policemen.

what about taking donations from bernie eccleston for your party and then stopping a ban on smoking advertising applying to them.

because labour politicians have done all these things and many others.
50

The Tin Man,

12/10/2008 15:12:05
#50 karinxxx

As you know, two wrongs make two wrongs.

Mr. Firestarter was sacked.

Basing party policy on donations is not illegal - look at the SNP's new stance on bus re-regulation / Mr Soutar / 500,000 squids.
51

Joe McLaine,

12/10/2008 15:24:03
Karinxxx

Is that the best you can do: SNP politicians do bad things, but labour are worse.

So the SNP defence can be summed up as nya nya-nya nyanyaaa-nyyaa?

52

The Tin Man,

12/10/2008 15:46:07
Anyone for a government-sponsered 'Christfest'?.

For 400,000 p.a. ?

53

Team Scotland,

Neo-Cons for AK47s 12/10/2008 15:57:20

This thread is as trivial as it is hysterical.
Here is a wee AK47 story that should be in the headlines.

http://tinyurl.com/4uyyq7
54

karinxxx,

12/10/2008 16:01:55
54 thats terrible team scotland imagine

soldiers in Iraq discusssing how they can kill innocent civilians and get away with it by planting a 'drop' weapon next to the murdered civilians body.
55

karinxxx,

12/10/2008 16:02:54
now who got us into this war broon and blair i think with their sexed up lying document that lead to the death of dr david kelly.
56

Joe McLaine,

12/10/2008 16:09:19
Yes

karinxxxx and teamscotland from the MacDonald Road Creche are in the communications office today.

Hey karin: you forgot "murderous brutal zionist occupier conspiracy"
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IainGlasgow,

12/10/2008 17:32:28
#59

Don't forget the oil dealings between George Bush Senior and Osama Bin Laden's old man.

How about Osama Bin Laden's folks being hurriedly flown own of the USA back to Saudi Arabia after the 9/11 bombings while all commercial flights were still grounded by the FAA

I believe Margaret Thatcher considered General Pinochet a very dear friend.

Can anyone name any governments that provided weapons to Saddam Hussein?
59

Joe McLaine,

12/10/2008 18:10:00


And let us not forget also that Hitler did something similar with Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Muhammed Amin al-Husseini.

Adolf made a bad judgement call there.
60

Scythia,

Glasgow 12/10/2008 18:12:56
For 200 years, this country has been beating back the swivel-eyed lunacy of organised religion and just at the time when we appear to be most successful, we import an even more lunatic brand of mindlessness. Thank you SNP.

I hope the Special Branch are examining this unholy alliance closely.
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Patrick O'Reilly,

Coatbridge 12/10/2008 18:14:10
Fabiani will resign this week.
62

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 12/10/2008 18:33:43
Oh, why not just end the endless agony and hand Scotland over to the radical Muslims/Islamists/Terrorists.

While you are at it, just lick their asses and give them every damn thing they covet and desire and will get by bombings, kidnappings, murder, etc. - the usual way Islamists and even some moderate-sounding Muslims want to "appear" to be (ever so conciliatory and reasonable and accomodating).

BULL SH*TE!!!
63

Grahamski,

Falkirk 12/10/2008 19:28:28
65
Of course it wasn't the answer he was expecting. It doesn't quite fit in with the usual nat's world view: simplistic and gullible.

Why even that supposedly wily political operator, Mr Salmond got himself involved with the anti-war coalition. That would be the same anti-war coaltion which was organised by an unholy alliance of islamo-fascists and swivel-eyed Saddam supporting trots (the SWP).

This is toxic for the SNP. Their natural infantile and anti-British posturing has put them in bed with some really nasty and revolting characters. I do hope Ms Fabiani is comfortable with those anti-semitic holocaust-denying homophobic bigots.

Sill, she's had good practice hanging with Mr Souter and his particularly nauseating fundamentalism....
64

Matt there,

Somewhere 12/10/2008 20:19:08
And a Labour Party spokesidiot said: "Dear Scotsman, please print this press release 'as is' with no changes."

And so they did.
65

Eric D,

Alba 12/10/2008 21:01:10
No 67 - The Sunday times is has a more far damning take on it.

Row over £215k 'terror-link' festival

"Documents obtained by The Sunday Times reveal Salmond approved the grant following the meeting between culture minister Linda Fabiani and Mohammed Sawalha, who is alleged to have directed terror operations in the West Bank."

"Sawalha, president of the British Muslim Initiative, was named in US court documents as a leading militant in the early 1990s “in charge of Hamas terrorist operations within the West Bank”."

"The documents alleged he met two “conspirators” accused of laundering millions of dollars to finance the group’s activities. In 2006, the BBC’s Panorama accused him of directing funds to Hamas’s armed wing"

Is the Scottish taxpayer funding Hamas via the SNP/SIF ?.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/scotland/article4926218.ece








66

Canada,

Canada 12/10/2008 21:07:07
When will this appeasement stop?
67

jarmon,

houston 12/10/2008 21:39:01
It is a statisical fact that as a country's muslim population grows,so does the demands the muslims make on the country to accommadate islam.It starts off slow,goes to sharia law,and usually ends up with an imposition of islamic beliefs on non muslims and on the government.First and foremost scotland should be for the scots,and non scots who live there should bend to the scottish culture,not the other way around.
68

Team Scotland,

12/10/2008 22:49:33
57 Joe McLaine

1. I do not know Karenxxx.

2. I am not a member of the SNP.

3. Unfounded personal insults from the safety of your keyboard suggests your stupidity is exceeded only by your cowardice.
69

Joe McLaine,

13/10/2008 16:24:45
Team Scotland

5 o'clock. Car park, SNP HQ. MacDonald Road.

Yir tea's oot.
70

An Greumach Mor,

Scotland 13/10/2008 18:55:05
I am a big fan of the SNP but the Islam issue is the biggest threat we currently face. Our political people are trying to be politically correct. The are being politcally wrong.

I am a total infidel and hold no religious belief. I am not concerned about followers of Buddha or Jesus coming to get me. I am very concerned about Islam and what it teaches. I do not think there are radical islamists.

I have researched hundreds of hours and concluded there are Islamic nutjobs who will kill and terrorise based on the teaching of the Quran and there are other who do not follow the Quran.

The teachings are very specific and not for discussion. Look at history, look where they are in power, look what they do when in control.

The North American Indians made the same mistake of welcoming the white man. Look what happened to them.
71

Team Scotland,

13/10/2008 19:45:38
72 Joe McLaine,

You really are a scary wee typist.





72

Joe McLaine,

Team Scotland's pooped his pants 13/10/2008 22:01:49
Where were you?
73

Team Scotland,

13/10/2008 22:42:08
Give enough notice and a proper venue (it is illegal to fight in the street) and I will happily fight you.
74

arkletten,

Scotland 13/10/2008 23:37:43
73.
Al Quaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood have the same goals - global Muslim supremacy - they just disagree over tactics.

The problem we face with the Muslim Brotherhood and their cronies in Scotland is not so much that of them blowing us up as of them poisoning our entire society by creating a new form of sectarianism that will take decades to clear.

Like we need that!

The Muslim Brotherhood plan a global take over by peaceful gradualist means; infiltrating the system, training up future cadres to penetrate government, education, finance, law, etc. to change the legal framework so that Muslims become a specially protected and privileged class in non-Muslim majority societies. From such a Trojan Horse they will emerge - when ready - to take their grip on us. And we won't notice a thing!

They actually believe that they can do this!

But if courtesy of Alex Salmond and the SNP they become MPs, get appointed to committees on the decomissioning of Trident, become special envoys in the Arab Gulf states to broker sharia finance to mortgage Scotland to undemocratic regimes, get special 'Islamic' schools set up in Scotland where they can indoctrinate the 'yoof', get a special organisation with public funds to train up their cadres into their ideology, get special Muslim police forces to protect their people, special sharia courts to by-pass ours, the whole apparatus of a parallel society, I'd say they're having a fair amount of success, wouldn't you?

Oh - and the creme de la creme - making 'Islamophobia' a racist crime.

That way if we as much as issue a whisper of protest we can be locked up.

75

Joe McLaine,

14/10/2008 10:12:09
OK

5 o'clock on yawm al-'arb`a' 13 of Dhu l-Qa'da 1429.

SNP car park, MacDonald Road. Inshallah.
76

Team Scotland,

14/10/2008 12:15:04
78 Joe McLaine,

You are a craven blow-hard!
77

Joe McLaine,

14/10/2008 15:54:54
I've never been to the Yorkshire Dales.
78

Joe McLaine,

Macdonald Road Car Park 03/11/2008 21:55:27
Where were you team Scotland?

Two dates and you failed to show to either.

Coward.

 

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