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donald,
glasgow 28/07/2008 05:25:32
There is not another fool in the gene pool to take his place.
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Linda,
Edinburgh 28/07/2008 07:04:28
And silly Nigel Griffiths says he is ecstatic "co*k-a-hoop" about the Glasgow East by election result which if replicated in Edinburgh South would see an SNP win.
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Jimmy Le Pie,
28/07/2008 07:17:16
Imbiciles the lot.
I think they all believe the drivel the Unionist press write about them.
"Towering intellect"
"Planet sized brain!"
"Big hitters!"
Self centered clowns the lot. Soon just to be history.
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MacGillicuddy,
28/07/2008 07:38:06
With such fulsome praise from his colleagues, Broon's demise MUST be imminent.
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it has always been allan,
28/07/2008 07:41:09
I am betting Brown will stay.
He is physically and mentally incapable of admitting he is wrong about anything.
He must have clout in his party, to have been able to unseat Blair, who may now be laughing.
Not laughing are many labour MP's, who would not enjoy losing their seats and going to the job centre.
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Traquir , Alba,
28/07/2008 08:51:58
Oh my, not looking good for Gordy boy -
"Gordon Brown's future uncertain as dozens of Labour MPs prepare to topple him"
"The group - which will number at least 30 - will not put forward who they believe should stand against or succeed Mr Brown, saying that is a matter for the party."
"Several senior backbench MPs including George Howarth and Charles Clarke are understood to have informally begun compiling lists"
"The plotting against Mr Brown began in earnest a week before the disastrous Glasgow East by-election defeat. A number of MPs were approached by ringleaders on the terrace of the Commons at the end of the last full week before Parliament broke for the summer break."
"The latest leadership crisis was triggered by the loss of the Glasgow East by-election which was won by the SNP after a 22 per cent swing in voting. If repeated in a general election, Labour would be virtually wiped out." :)
see - tinyurl.com/5fyln9
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it has always been allan,
28/07/2008 09:14:39
Charles Clarke would certainly like to replace Gordon, with himself, but would he be any better?
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DouglasT,
28/07/2008 09:18:31
Labours big guns - Prescott and Harman. Says it all.
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The Former Mr. Angry,
Perth 28/07/2008 09:29:14
Brown knows he's sunk when he gets the backing of nobodies like Prescott and Harman. But Prescott's right - there is no one else in the ministerial ranks at the moment with the necessary experience and gravitas to take up the PM role. Straw might carry it for a while but the major impression is that Brown and cohorts are due for some very unpleasant surprises from the electorate who rightly see through the spin and "getting on with the job" (what job? The same one that landed us in the mess?).
The whole political and financial philosophy of Labour has been exposed as a tissue of lies, deceit, spin and above all else tax. Tax to be wasted on failed social engineering projects and flung away on doomed foreign aid projects.
#6 correct - he will not admit he is wrong or that there is any question about his leadership so despite the strongest hints anyone is likely to get that "you're not wanted mate", he will try and doggedly get to the end of the current term - after all it is his turn. Inevitably this will lead to even further fiscal imprudence and daft taxes and the utter demise of the Labour party. The "suicide" option mentioned in Scotland on Sunday may the better of 2 gruesome choices.
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28/07/2008 10:28:22
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Alberto.,
28/07/2008 10:45:18
"John Prescott, the former deputy Prime Minister, said Mr Brown was the only person able to lead the country through the current economic downturn."
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Praise indeed from one of New Labour’s great ‘Wordsmiths’ - yet a failure Politically, ‘but not financially’, and a brilliant display by someone specifically known for 'not being able to string a few words together to make sense’ - even that he can understand, yet assumes he has the ability to clearly see a 'Leader fit for purpose' - regardless of the mess his Party has created for the Country!
Seemingly Mr Prescott must have greater ability in the ‘easy- peasy ‘Numbers games’ so, as his Party now seems to be in ‘Countdown’ mode - he should really have a go on the well known TV game to really convince us all of his expertise - rather than keeping this long lost talent hidden any longer!
Keep it going Mr Prescott - the best New Labour produced laughter maker yet, and possibly forever, yet a very lucky man financially, which is probably what it was all about in the first place and which seems ‘Par for the Course’ in the Politics of today!
As for the 'statements' by Harman and Straw - of course, they both have nice well paid Jobs, Pensions and Perks to protect, bank accounts to boost even further, and seemingly, Gordon Brown is their Saviour in this area of their life, so they are not likely to kick the ladder from under him - are they??
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brownlie,
28/07/2008 10:55:42
Wise words from the eloquent Mr Prescott who was the only person I ever saw completely flummoxing the signer for the deaf during a conference speech.
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AJ Fife,
28/07/2008 11:09:45
Blunkett for Prime Minister!!
Now that would be a laugh! :))
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Raymond Thomas Brooke,
Leven Beverley 28/07/2008 11:51:18
To have the backing of Mr Prescott must reassure Mr Brown that he is on the way out.Mr P must be the original two faced politician thare has ever been. Apart from a loud mouth he has no qualities what soever.He only lasted as long as he did because he represented East Hull and they would vote for anyone who said they were Labour irrespective of their ability
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Brian M,
Edinburgh 28/07/2008 12:13:50
Did they actually say that they actually support the Buffoon?
It seems to me that all they are saying is that now is not yet the time to replace him.
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Scottish 'N British,
28/07/2008 14:44:57
Brown's future will be decided by his back benchers fearing for their jobs, not the so-called big hitters.
Thatcher got in thanks to Separatist MP's.
Fast forward 29 years and it's aAmazing to think the punters of East Glasgow (aided and abetted by the SNP and 'lend us yer votes', are the ones who set the ball rolling for another Tory government.
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Nevsky,
Moscow 28/07/2008 15:20:34
17: Scon N Whatever
Haha a laughable attempt to blame the forthcoming Tory government on the SNP. I think you will find it is Labour to blame and Labour to thank for the next 8 years of Conservative rule.
You should of course be happy that the true unionist party is going to be in power, what you bleating about?
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Nevsky,
Moscow 28/07/2008 15:22:58
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Heaven for you, land of hope an glory and the union flag flying high. I would think you would be celebrating?
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Scottish 'N British,
28/07/2008 15:26:47
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Salmond has stated he aims to work with the Tories on an issue-by-issue basis - if that's not 'blameworthy, then I don't know what is.
BTW, any news yet on what plans Salmond intends intriducing to make better the lives of the 'failed' people of Glasgow East?
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Scottish 'N British,
28/07/2008 15:27:28
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Guess on.
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Nevsky,
Moscow 28/07/2008 15:42:04
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On an issue by issue basis so long as it is 'of benefit to Scotland.' Are you suggesting that he or anyone else who is first minister of Scotland do anything otherwise?
Better, well they might have access to an honest MP now instead of a corrupt Labour one so that is a start!
Where is David Marshall..retired to Spain yet with his sickie notes..what a joke!
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Nevsky,
Moscow 28/07/2008 15:46:38
Scot n whatever:
You will happily support a Conservative government though instead of supporting independence i take it? And you accuse the SNP of working with the Conservatives. You have 2 choices back the SNP and vote for independence OR endorse a Conservative and Unionist Government for the next 8 years.
Start choice for all you Labour voters ;-)))
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kimba,
28/07/2008 15:53:08
14 WHY!
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kimba,
28/07/2008 16:06:45
There is a lot of garbage spouted by the SNP and it's supporters that when England elects a tory government that will in effect signal the REFERENDUM for scottish independence. This is the biggest load of c--p ever, cameron has stated time after time,he will do "ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING" to keep the union together,and if that means troops on the streets of scotland so be it.
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ThomasP,
28/07/2008 16:15:15
#25
Of course. We all will witness soldiers being removed from their world wide posts to patrol Scotland.
You know what. I heard that America was cordinating with the European Union plus NATO to invade Scotland because we are after Independence.
You know. From my house in Aberdeen I think I see battleships already taking over the oil rigs to cut our energy supplies.
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jacquesmac,
28/07/2008 16:16:29
Dar Legsa Kimba
Still spouting that verbal diarrhoeanglish troops out on Scotish Streets puting down the natives.
Kimba Bwana, Scotland is no African colony and this is no longer the 19th century.
IDIOT!
Get back under your union flag stone.
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ThomasP,
28/07/2008 16:21:13
#27
I am sure that once you think about it then you will see that Kimba speaks of the truth.
The whole world is against Scottish Indeependence. It all makes sense now.
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Nevsky,
Moscow 28/07/2008 16:30:11
Kimba
You think 1 conservative MP is a fair representation for Scots at Wesminster? Democratic you feel? Would it be democratic for England to have 1 Conservative MP and 400 Scottish labour MPs?
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kimba,
28/07/2008 17:05:47
Don't get on my back you scottish eejits,only repeating what cameron said,but it's quite good all the same!
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kimba,
28/07/2008 17:07:10
It's about time England flexed her muscles after 10 years of Labour dogma!
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kimba,
28/07/2008 17:09:28
Salmond you will be squashed like the bug you are.
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jacquesmac,
28/07/2008 17:11:02
#27
I see it now, the US 5th fleet sails up the Clyde to reclaim the US designed and atomic weaponry (leased), as they have not had a payment in yonks because England is bankrupt.
The US 5th fleet attacks Auchtermuchty with blockbuster bombs. The proclaimers write and perform a new CD saying is that all you have fkn well got, we cannae see any difference.
The combined force of France and England's aircraft carriers' strike force will launch pre-emptive action against Maryhill, oops sorry forgot that England's two were canceled as the French gave up subsidising the three and wanted some sort of payment offset. Buck House offered but Sarkozy is holding out for the English crown jewels as well.
Auchtermuchty rallies, fight back and sinks 2/3 of the US fleet, with an onslaught of out-of date stale mutton pies and old Proclaimer CDs. US capitulates.
Germany joins forces with Scotland and opens Eastern front.
Poles join with Germany against Stalist Labour Party.
The Faroes invade the Isle of Wight and England capitulates.
Advance force of Scottish BBs and Wolf cubs occupy Westmidden/
UN Security Council appints England a Protectorate of Scotland.
A levels, especially infant psychology, dropped in favour of Scottish Highers.
What drugs is Legsa Kimba on?
Where can I get some?
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kimba,
28/07/2008 17:11:48
David Cameron to free England from the bloody scot!
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kimba,
28/07/2008 17:13:35
33. The drug that is freedom from gompers like you!
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ThomasP,
28/07/2008 17:14:12
Kimba.
Since when did Cameron actually state that he would use soldiers to control Scotland?
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ThomasP,
28/07/2008 17:15:41
Kimba.
Considering Cameron comes from quite a hardline of Scottish ancestory (Should learn about the Camerons) do you really think he will be tough on Scotland?
Gordon Brown actually lives in Scotland but the Tories have already spoken of co-operation between the Nats and the Tories and that is more then that Labour has done.
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jacquesmac,
28/07/2008 17:16:47
Legsa Kimba
What does Cameron mean?
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kimba,
28/07/2008 17:17:24
He was born and brough up in England,wait and see tw-t.
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kimba,
28/07/2008 17:19:25
LOL, to the people of England it means FREEDOM!
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kimba,
28/07/2008 17:24:01
Brace your self scotland Cameron is coming!
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kimba,
28/07/2008 17:25:22
Should of hung on to Brown,ah well!
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Huntly loon,
Aberdeenshire 28/07/2008 17:27:02
So the SNP and Tories are apparently in secret talks. As it looks like both will be in charge in their respective ends of the island, it might well be believable. One thing is sure Salmond will drive a helluva hard bargain. The Daily Express (was it?) says that Scotland will have full autonomy over its internal economics and taxation, with only defence and foreign policy remaining for a Union parliament to deal with.
I would imagine English and Scottish positions in foreign affairs might be rahter similar. Perhaps it will require both governments to come to a single consensus position. As regards defence it could be made to work provided the Scots did not have to contribute to Trident nor join in illegal and hugely expensive foreign wars. Scotland should have independent representation in the EU as it could have a different position on many things emanating from Brussels.
If that solution is achieved after negotiations then I think it would win in a referendum. If the SNP and Tories reach an 'understanding' the proposed SNP referendum to negotiate in 2010 would seem not to be necessary and an acceptance referendum would need to be held instead. If Cameron's Tories are content to wield endless power in England under an almost loose confederal United Kingdoms only Labour would, I suggest oppose the plans, as it would be them and them alone who would lose out in the deal. Time will tell.
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jacquesmac,
28/07/2008 17:32:33
Legsa Kimba
What does Cameron mean?
Hooked Nose!
Beware Legsa of people with hooked noses!
You have been warned, see #43 above!
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jacquesmac,
28/07/2008 17:51:41
Kimbe
Mummy call you in for din-dins
Gerber's tonight!
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Nevsky,
Moscow 28/07/2008 18:46:42
Kimba:
Will be interesting to see how David will go about saving the union single handed when he can't even prevent his own bike being stolen!
Like trusting the 5th armoured brigade to Norman Wisdom!
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Caora Dubh,
Croit sheasgair 28/07/2008 21:47:20
Today another young serviceman was killed in Afghanistan, the 113th since the Afghan "operations" started in Nov 2001. The "operations" have now lasted longer than World War 2.
I am sick of stories that the Afghans are being trained to fight for themselves. The UK and USA have had more than enough time to train and arm them, and nothing has come of it except stiffening resistance - it is the Taleban that they are training.
I am sick of stories that they are fighting against the drugs trade, when we all know that Western Govts could legalise and control the use of heroin, so eliminating the dealers and preventing the deaths of thousands of addicts.
I am sick of hearing that things are going to be done to help those living in deprived areas, especially children, when virtually nothing has been done for years and years.
I am sick of company managers receiving obscene salaries, benefits, and golden handshakes when so many of our children live in poverty.
All this has gone on for decades under the Tories and Labour. I'm sick of the Tories and Labour. Goodbye to both of you, may you rest in torment.
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Jimmy Le Pie,
29/07/2008 00:10:12
I've got le answer to New Labour Sleaze's leadership problems.
Cairns resigns his Westminster seat.
Joke resigns his Holyrood seat.
Cairns stands for Joke's former seat.
Maggie Curran stands for Cairns former seat.
Joke heads off to his expense account in Malawi.
Cairns gets resoundly beaten by the SNP.
Curran gets resoundly beaten by the SNP.
Both blame world economic conditions for their defeats.
Comrade Broon refuses to resign.
"I'm planning a relaunch. I'm the best man to lead us out of the mess and shambles that the last Tory government left us with."
Comrade Broon is sectioned under the Mental Health Act.
General election called.
Bye bye New Labour Sleaze.
Bye bye Union!!
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Citylocal Fife,
Fife News 29/07/2008 07:56:05
Well, Prescott is certainly a heavyweight, Harman is a deadweight, and the chance of any competent leader for New Labour will be a long wait. May they all fall in their communal trough and disappear from sight.
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Scottish 'N British,
29/07/2008 08:17:06
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More spin. For the record, Salmond's decision making, to the overwhelming majority of Scots, is done for self-interest not Scotland's benefit.
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Neither are as 'heavy' as oor first minister!!
Question: How does sleaze work with Trumpgate and Aviemore?
Yup, end of the Union right enough.
Based on the outcome in Glasgow East where 20% of those eligible to vote, voted for change, not Seperatism.
Dream on, lads.
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izzie,
dundee 29/07/2008 09:34:32
When Blair was in power he had Gordon Brown Brown does not have anyone of that stature to advise him.
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Scottish 'N British,
29/07/2008 10:18:12
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Brown's situation can only be salvaged if he could replicate the Blair/Brown partnership, and the chances of that are nil. His only saving grace is that the public still view Cameron as not very trustworthy.
Events are also much different.
Like Salmond they enjoyed an extended honeymoon period.
They also enjoyed year-on-year growth, more money in people's pockets, falling unemployment, the beginnings of peace in Northern Ireland.
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