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It's a tourist no-show for empty Festival as ticket fiasco goes on



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Published Date: 01 August 2008
SCOTLAND'S national tourism body last night admitted there was still "widespread" availability of accommodation in Edinburgh this month, on the eve of the Fringe's opening weekend.
Thousands of rooms are still available across the capital, with most of the city's major hotels unable to fill beds at what is usually the busiest time of year.

VisitScotland has issued an "unprecedented" alert to travel industry contacts across t
he UK, highlighting the amount of accommodation available "across all sectors".

The organisation told The Scotsman the move was being taken as part of its response to industry concern about the impact of the economic downturn and a slowdown in advance bookings across the country.

The news emerged as the Edinburgh Festival Fringe came under renewed pressure, with growing queues at its box office and venues scrambling to ensure ticket-holders were not turned away.

Organisers failed to open an extra Princes Street box office as planned yesterday, meaning Fringe-goers had to go to the office on the Royal Mile, where they faced an hour-long queue to buy or collect tickets.

VisitScotland's admission follows revelations in The Scotsman that bookings in Edinburgh had slumped. Normally about 90 per cent of rooms are taken in August.

A spokeswoman said: "There is an economic downturn affecting the whole of the UK. Edinburgh is no exception.

"There is a common misconception that Edinburgh in August is fully booked and we're trying to spread the message that there is still plenty of opportunity for people to enjoy the city's fabulous festivals."

Simon Williams, the chief executive of the Edinburgh Principal Hotels Association, said: "I've certainly never heard of VisitScotland doing anything like this in August before.

"I know bookings are well down, although the industry is pretty confident it will recover through last-minute bookings."

David Hinnrichs, the head of the Edinburgh Hotel and Guest House Association, said: "It's pretty unheard of for so much accommodation to be available and there's no denying things have been slow."

Meanwhile, ticket-holders yesterday continued to bombard the Fringe website with complaints, while queues are expected to lengthen by Sunday, when the festival begins.

People who have booked tickets for shows after Monday have been urged to hold off trying to pick them up until next week, to ease pressure on the box office.

Despite the lengthy queues, Fringe officials insisted sales were "going well", and there had been no serious problems.

A spokesman also said there had been no further reports of over-sold shows, after it emerged more than 20 were affected.

Venue managers insisted they were coping with the fallout from the box office problems, with extra staff drafted in and contingency plans drawn up.





The full article contains 462 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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1

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 01/08/2008 00:47:17

It don't really matter!

Edinburgh is a, 'PURE DISGRACE' this year anyway!

Holes in the Roads, Everywhere!

Road Works, Everywhere!

Scaffolding, Everywhere!

£300.00 for Bed and Breakfast, Everywhere!

Baby unfriendly, Everywhere!

Bus Service Cuts, Everywhere!

THE LIST GOES ON AND ON AND ON!

Who in their 'Right Mind' Would want to come Visit Edinburgh,?

WHO,?

WHAT WAS THAT, YOU SAID,?

Sorry I forgot!

The 'Muppet's' that want to visit our,..'Tacky Shops'!
2

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 01/08/2008 00:50:09

Question IS!

Did Edinburgh Suffer from an,..'Earthquake' or 'World War Three'?
3

Iainbroch,

Moray 01/08/2008 01:32:10
re2

According to a friend that lives there it has been hit with an Earthquake and WW3 simultaneously!

The tram scheme is and will be an economic disaster!

Accomodation is not value for money. I have seen the prices and they are scary!

Forget about the sheer cost of even getting to Edinburgh!

I guess that somebody needs a good kick up the proverbial?
4

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 01/08/2008 02:10:40

Iainbroch ~3,

Good Points!

I also believe there is,..

'Tram Fallout Centres' strategically placed in certain parts of Edinburgh, :))
5

Guga II,

Rockall 01/08/2008 02:36:21
It's all very well blaming the economic downturn for the lack of visitors, but the main blame surely belong to the ticket organisers.

It looks as if everyone involved with the organisation of the fringe should be given the boot, the organisation scrapped, and start again for next year.

Moreover, if, as Charlie at #1 suggests, they are generally charging £300 for B&B, then they deserve everything they get for their utter greed.
6

Helene,

Ontario Canada 01/08/2008 04:18:35
You have to plan a visit to Edinburgh very carefully to stay within a reasonable budget. It's an expensive city.
7

Pilrig.,

Livingston 01/08/2008 05:48:37
5 - the high heid yin of the Fringe - couldnae run a bath
8

cramond1,

01/08/2008 06:10:24
Many rich fringers will be in Beijing too. I'm not going to Edinburgh if it's 300 a night. Are there cheaper places in Scotland? Is there anything to recommend at the festival? Anything funny?
9

Tom Cambeul,,

North,USA 01/08/2008 06:44:48
I was caught once, in the "lunatic fringe", never again!! I just visited Scotland, for a fortnight, always lovely in Argyll. One day in Scaffoldburgh was enough.
10

Destroy the Planet,

01/08/2008 07:06:15
its not dumbed down enough. if it reflected edinburgh's real culture, strippers, stag and hen nights, heroin, soap bar, the golden river of the cowgate, miserable gay clubs, imported scottish tat, overpriced hotels, bad food, scottish snobs, scaffolding, white elephant choo choo sets, high taxes, councils dodgy deals and disrespect for the locals and the rest of scotlands total indifference to the place then we'd be on to a winner.

We could get Tony Blair and Simon Cowell to run it, or a reject from the bog brother telly program

Can i get a job as lord provost ?
11

Dr.G,

Tennessee, USA 01/08/2008 07:06:38
Americans are out of cash for travel with climbing energy and food bills combined with the falling dollar. We could barely afford Edinburgh in August years ago and certainly not now. Even though we had passes for New Years' on our last trip we refused to be "scalped" (our term for being over-charged) and celebrated Hogmanany at Stirling instead of with the mob in Edinburgh. We had just as much or more fun for a fraction of the price. Come see us in the mountains of East Tennessee. Our tourism is down too and for Europeans every thing here is on sale!
12

Destroy the Planet,

01/08/2008 07:34:26
ok heres a start - we rename the city - Blackpoolburgh ! (no disrespect meant for the people of blackpool)

Dr G, the mountains of east tennessee sound great, you dont carry guns do you ? that scares me. If i can get past your border security for some offence like 'looking swarthy and wearing a loud jumper in a built up area' then i'll be there.

Anyways who cares about the fest, i'm off to the hebrides for 3 weeks, make sure you've all tidied up and gone back to London for my return.
13

Peekay,

01/08/2008 07:36:09
"......and there had been no serious problems".
How, in gods name can they say that?? Take a look at the message board on their own site to get a flavour of the serious problems. People charged multiple times for the same tickets, tickets ordered weeks ago still not delivered, shows over-sold, etc,etc, etc. Talk about heads in the sand, or more appropriately, up their @rses!!
14

Destroy the Planet,

01/08/2008 08:28:28
# 14 Missed the fest on Barra, how did it go ? mental ?
15

Destroy the Planet,

01/08/2008 08:40:38
# 16 The Vatersay Boys at the Castlebay couple of years back, absolutley bladdered, bangin time, learnt my only bit of gaelic - oidhche bha.
16

Destroy the Planet,

01/08/2008 08:41:18
cos its on ma t-shirt
17

Heather B,

Anstruther 01/08/2008 08:54:02
Just seen a report on BBC national TV on the Festival - all about what is in the shows this year, nothing about booking problems or "hotel availability" or whatever.

Try a new tack Hootsmon - it's becoming boring knocking the city everytime.

Anyone fancy moving to the Herald?
18

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 01/08/2008 08:58:12

Heather ~19,

And move away from the 'Madhouse',?

You Must be Joking! :))
19

Gerard Mulholland,

Paris, France 01/08/2008 09:23:53
£300 a night B&B?

Euripdes died in 406BC.

It was he who wrote "Those whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad".

I never realised he was a prophet.

Still less that he was thinking of Edinburgh in 2008AD.
20

Hector the Red,

01/08/2008 11:09:46
Edinburgh is just one big building site at the moment, wouldn't recommend it to anybody at the moment.......come back in 2012!
21

Venachar,

01/08/2008 11:13:04
Reckon prices are £50 higher than outwith Festival period at least with Holiday Inn group! Was going to stay overnight but won't bother now. I'll just use one of the nicely saltire painted trains!
22

fife_pensioner,

Fife 01/08/2008 11:25:39
Who'd pay Edinburgh hotel prices? Costs as much as London to see:
Every street dug up,
Hardly a shop worth visiting on Princes St. unless you want yet another mobile phone,
Listen to the yowling bagpipe music from the so-called kilt shoppie,
Oh well, it's maybe better than listening to the endless road drills,
Have a cardboard cup of watery coffee and a defrosted bun in BHS,
Or pop into Marks and Spencer's dungeon coffee shoppie,
Queue for an hour for a ticket to the fringe,

Luckily Glasgow is only an hour away by train!
23

Brian Hill,

01/08/2008 11:32:00
Deary me, such negativity. CL, show me one place in the capital that's charging £300 a night for B&B and pay for your stay for a week....I'm talking about a normal B&B house of course, not the flippin Cale or Balmoral.

Talking about the Fringe, the first mentiion of it on BBC 24hr News that I've heard was a gripe about the ticket 'fiasco'. A few brief live pics from the royal mile.

Meanwhile as a link it showed a cerefully choreographed 30/45 second film peice with hundreds of floating 'musicsl notes' advertising the Proms....just one of many I've see.

But then it is the English Broadcasting Company after all.
24

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 01/08/2008 11:38:28
After reading all these very negatives postings - many of them from persons living in Edinburgh - is it any wonder that bookings are down and travellers will visit anyplace in Scotland but its capital.

Maybe if more positive things were said about the city, in spite of its drawbacks, you would get more tourists and a less negative image.

We all have a tendency to disparage the city in which we reside but this constant barrage of negativity about Edinburgh is becoming stale and repetitive.
25

Sheila mac,

Eyemouth 01/08/2008 11:43:37
How about you try beautiful Eyemouth? Lovely little fishing village on the Borders, 40 minutes from Edinburgh. Mrs McQueen's B&B from only £50 per room per night
26

gothenburg1983,

01/08/2008 11:52:24
What a bunch of moaning tw@ts. Charles Linksall - I bet your always on the phone to the council complaining or writing to points of view about something completely trivial. Get out and see some comedy at the fringe. Cheer yourself up a bit.

Scaffolding, road works, unfriendly babies....blah blah!!!

27

Sunny Jim in Rio,

Rio de Janeiro 01/08/2008 12:20:09
My son has booked bed and breakfast in a guest house in Joppa for mid August for 25 pounds a night which is a lot cheaper than anywhere in Rio and most places in the UK and Ireland in August.

Normally we wouldn't have expected to get accommodation anywhere in Edinburgh at this time. Most unusual.
28

King Richard IV,

Brisbane 01/08/2008 12:22:13
There will be sh#tload of" Space Cadets" thinking the "Scaffolding" is part of the "Fringe" and as many "Arty Farty" types convincing them that this is indeed so.Sounds like the whole thing has out grown itself and become like the "Olympics" just a big sham (in a kilt)!
29

E1izabeth,

Gourock 01/08/2008 12:26:34
I’d love to stay in Edinburgh for a few nights while the fringe was on but accommodation is just far too over priced. I went there a while ago for a day visit (when you have young children it is far easier to have your own transport) but there is nowhere to park (unless you're one of the locals with a permit, this doesn’t make outsiders feel very welcome).
Whenever I go abroad like most people I like to hire a car which is pointless in Edinburgh.
At one time accommodation in Blackpool was just as over priced but look how run down it looks NOW!
30

It's life but not as we know it,

The Oort Clouds 01/08/2008 12:56:41
The Fringe is way past its sell-by date. Time to close it down and come up with something fresh.
31

Destroy the Planet,

01/08/2008 13:10:08
Bring back Glasgow's Mayfest !
32

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 01/08/2008 13:14:02

Such a lovely City, Such a shame it ends in ruin.
33

Sir Saltire,

Edinburgh 01/08/2008 13:15:55
Well, while the rest of you miserable bunch are busy moaning on blogs about how terrible everything is, I've got a couple of weeks off during the festival to see as many of the fantastic array of shows on offer as I can.

A few points to address:

Who needs a car to get around Edinburgh's city centre anyway? Unless you have a physical disability, I'd suggest you stop being lazy and try walking because it's pretty easy!

Yes, there is a lot of scaffolding and construction work around Edinburgh just now - essential if it's not to become Scotland's Blackpool. Has the opening up of St Andrews Square been a bad thing? Would you prefer The Rutland and Cale hadn't had a facelift? Will you not enjoy the huge bar being built in place of the tiny, pokey old one, inside the Usher Hall?

Bad food in Edinburgh? Certainly plenty of dodgy restaurants and cafes, but many more fantastic places to eat. Industry experts recently voted Edinburgh the food capital of the UK, outside of London, so if you think it's bad here, you're not going to satisfy your tastebuds anywhere on this island.



34

Travis,

chicago 01/08/2008 13:21:05
Charles honey,

Come here let me give ya a hug. I am thinking you have had a bad. I only say that since I am six hours behind you. Its the weekend, go get a pint and relax!
35

Venachar,

01/08/2008 14:00:22
#26 Tim

You really do not want to go anywhere near Edinburgh at the moment. My son lives off Dalry Road and can you get parked no! Dump the car either the Gyle or Riccarton park and ride. Trying to get into the town centre is atrocious, normal roadworks every 100m down large parts of Dalry Road, then the madness for the tram system, don't know how some of the retailers have survived in the last six months or so.
I was looking at a friday afternoon show, dinner a comedy show, hotel next day shopping, rugby , show.
But my £50 more than normal for the hotel room means I will miss out the hotel, comedy show and shopping because the public transport system does not cater for most outwith Edinburgh's bus service. If you want to stay in town you get ripped off.
36

Venachar,

01/08/2008 14:12:54
Sir Saltire, hope your council tax leaps up so you and you alone can enjoy the festival. The £2.50 daily ticket is fine for getting about however there will be a number of people with chronic illnesses who would prefer to be able to use a car to get to Edinburgh then use buses or taxis. The room I usually book is £80 per night and to find it is £130 a night is a rip off. As the lady from Gourock has said lack of parking (unless you know where) and accommodation is expensive and I agree with her.
37

gothenburg1983,

01/08/2008 14:20:27
moan moan moan...honestly. You lot want to start a committee and meet everyday to discuss the Edinburgh's numerous parking problems and overpriced hotels.

Sounds like it's too much hassle to get on a bus for most of you. Expecting to drive your car right up to the venue and park at the door? Get a grip!
38

Banana Heid,

Ayrshire 01/08/2008 14:33:20
Where's Edinburgh then? Is that in Belgium?
39

Urban Guerrilla,

Edinburgh 01/08/2008 15:00:27
#35, > Who needs a car to get around Edinburgh's city centre anyway? Unless you have a physical disability, I'd suggest you stop being lazy and try walking because it's pretty easy! <

If people don't want to walk, you can't make them. If they decide to stay at home if they can't use their car, that's their choice.
40

Upandunder,

01/08/2008 15:15:00
One could imagine the whole fiasco was organised by the SRU.
41

Stan1,

Edinburgh 01/08/2008 15:20:46
Ok I am fifty fifty on this one. The FRINGE is becoming a total disaster and the arrogance of those involved in it is staggering. It cannot keep getting bigger and bigger and they (should) have known that their ticketing system is rubbish for years. The Fringe has to cut it's prices, it costs a fortune to see one or two acts and more often than not, those acts are not good.

BUT - all the negativity on this page about Edinburgh is ridiculous. #24 - Um, you may have noticed that there are actually quite a few other streets to shop on in Edinburgh not just Princes Street (which is admittedly awful). The trams are causing a major amopunt of grief, but just get over it - they are happening whether you want them or not. Please start finding something new to whine about. And as for prices, have you looked at the prices in London, New York or Paris lately? We are pretty much in thier leauge as a major international destination. And where on earth did you get £300 per night from? There are many many hotels that offer rooms at around the £100 per night and cheaper if you look out of the centre of town (again like ANY city). Stop moaning and either DONT visit us or just MOVE if you hate this city so much!!
42

dido-bendigo,

Scotland 01/08/2008 16:09:40
There were several Fringe participants on BBC24 News this morning. They were identified as 'comedians' and were describing what was happening during the event. Their humour was excruciatingly un-funny in an American comedy show sort of way. Come to think of it, most, if not all, seemed to have American accents. Why don't people go to Holyrood for the most-of-the-year-round comedy acts? It never fails to be side-splitting!
43

KarenD,

Falkirk 01/08/2008 16:50:34
Guy's, dont be so down on Edinburgh its still a great city, yes I dont live there now and i dont have to deal with all the up-heaval of the new trams but come on... If your going to visit Edinburgh there are places outwith it you can stay that are equally as lovely and your not paying an arm and a leg. Trains run from Falkirk/Stirling etc every 30 mins... so look wider for your accommodation and just enjoy the shows... it wont always be this way..
44

Sir Saltire,

01/08/2008 16:59:37
Venachar - I understand the price of accommodation in Edinburgh is extremely high in Edinburgh, and made no reference to it. I was being critical of those people based in Edinburgh, who feel they have some divine right to be able to, as Gothenburg said, park right at the door of the venue. If you live in Edinburgh, or you're in Edinburgh for the festival month, a bus pass costs £37 for 4 weeks. If you have a physical disability and need to use a car, a disabled badge gives you plenty of parking options.

Urban Guerrilla - you're right, people have the choice. No-one's forcing anyone to walk, but they have that choice. If they're too lazy to travel around the city centre without a car, then absolutely that's their choice.
45

Urban Guerrilla,

Edinburgh 01/08/2008 17:05:41
#46, why the pejorative term "lazy"? If the hassle of walking outweighs the pleasure they would have in getting about the city centre, it's an entirely rational choice - as would be their choice to take their business to somewhere more car-friendly.
46

Sir Saltire,

01/08/2008 17:19:25
In my opinion, there is very little "hassle" in walking around Edinburgh's city centre. Thus, if you were able-bodied and very keen to enjoy the festival but for the difficulty in driving a car around, then I would consider you to be lazy. This is my choice, and quite a rational one at that.
47

Urban Guerrilla,

Edinburgh 01/08/2008 17:29:38
#48, In my opinion, the use of a pejorative word to describe a rational choice is irrational.
48

Happyhibee, Lorna,

Craigentinny, Edinburgh 01/08/2008 17:31:04
What city does not up their prices at a time of year when they have special events! Yes the city it going through multiple facelifts! But in my view they are for the future of this beautiful city. I have lived here all my life and it simply beggars belief that people complain about progress. In a couple of years you will have trams transporting you from one end of the city to the other. You will be able to attend any festival events from the outskirts of the city which indeed have adequate accommodation and a different prospective of what Edinburgh life and culture really is. I do not know any bed and breakfasts that are charging £300. If you shop around you can get value for money. There did not seem to be a shortage of excitement and enthusiasm for the festival and the Tattoo last night which started with a bang!!

Please do not stop coming to Edinburgh as the changes and improvements are to benefit all. After all, there is good and bad EVERYWHERE!



49

Kitti Kat,

Newtown Square 01/08/2008 18:02:02
AS for the lack of any tourists from the US- blame the low value of the dollar. My daughter was over last month and it was just about 2 to 1 which makes the UK very expensive indeed. Add hotels, meals, air fare etc. and it can get way too expensive for those of us who once could travel . The economy is BAD here and some things have to be put on "hold". However, your pound is very good here so you can hop across the pond and do all your Christmas shopping .
50

Sir Saltire,

01/08/2008 18:13:20
No it is not UG, as this is a statement of fact.
51

Urban Guerrilla,

Edinburgh 01/08/2008 18:22:17
#52, it is indeed a statement of fact that you consider such people to be lazy, but your use of the word "lazy" to describe them is merely a statement of your personal opinion, not a statement of fact.
52

Sir Saltire,

01/08/2008 18:38:08
A physically able person not attending the festival because they struggle to get their car from, let's say, a show in George Street, to one up at Bristo Square, is pathetic, frankly. In my view it is extremely lazy, and I am not insulting anyone by calling them this, in what I believe to be a matter-of-fact manner.
53

Urban Guerrilla,

Edinburgh 01/08/2008 18:56:54
#54, "pathetic" and "lazy" are pejorative words, and you know it! If someone finds the hassle of walking from George Street to Bristo Square and back outweighs the pleasure they would get from seeing a show, however, that *is* a matter of fact.
54

Nikostratos,

01/08/2008 19:15:03
#51 kit kat

you think that the uk is expensive well I've recently returned from Rome where i was paying 6 euros for a pint of beer about £4.20 English or $9 us dollars...ouch

quite a few Americans there though.......
55

Media 1,

cape town 01/08/2008 19:55:46
All good things must come to an end!
56

La5t_minit,

01/08/2008 23:00:35
So reduce the prices to a level that people can afford idiots...
57

MichScot,

USA 02/08/2008 05:12:20
This economic downturn has us all struggling. There is talk of Sharia finance, but has anyone checked out Leviticus in the Bible? Something called the year of Jubilee, when all debts are canceled. Once in 50 years only.

Too bad the West is so secular...
58

ehlndh,

London 02/08/2008 10:08:59
I'm with Sir Saltire on this. I live partly in London and partly in Edinburgh, where I was born (though descended from ancestors in Shetland, Orkney, Sutherland and East Lothian) and in and around which (I had a homeless, poverty-stricken childhood) I was brought up. I've worked and travelled extensively in mainland Europe, where I also lived for 10 years, and the US. London is a world city and as such constantly stimulating and agreeable. The quality of life in Edinburgh is however exceptional, the setting and architecture are sources of constant visual pleasure and agreeable surprises, and the Festivals are fun. I can confirm that Edinburgh compares very well with London as regards eating out, especially at everday levels, and there are lots of great pubs. The feedback i get from European, north and south American and other contacts is mostly highly favourable. I urge no one contemplating a visit to Edinburgh to be put off by the negativity and parochiality displayed by some contributors to this column. There's even a fair chance you'll enjoy the climate too!

 

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