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Hopes of city airgun ban shot down by trouble with the law



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Published Date: 05 August 2008
A BAN on airguns in Edinburgh is set to be ruled out by council chiefs after they decided it would lead to "legal, political and practical difficulties".
Last year, former Labour councillor Trevor Davies proposed outlawing the weapons by introducing a special bylaw in the city.

However, the council's director of corporate services, Jim Inch, today said that discussions with civil servants and the p
olice led to concerns about the idea – mainly over how it would be enforced when airguns would still be on sale in neighbouring local authority areas.

Councillors were today expected to drop the plans, and may instead now concentrate on a publicity campaign in city schools.

The Scottish SPCA said it backed calls for tighter rules on the use of airguns but agreed that national legislation was better than a local bylaw.

Were the council to pursue its ban, it would need the backing of the Westminster Government, rather than Scottish Ministers.

Mr Inch said: "Justice department officials expressed the view that it would be inappropriate to have separate firearms laws in Scotland or indeed among individual local authority bylaws within Scotland.

"Considering the fact that firearms legislation is a matter reserved to Westminster and that recent legislation from the Parliament has recently been enacted, it is most unlikely that a City of Edinburgh promoted bylaw seeking to ban the sale and use of airguns in the city would have any prospect of being confirmed.

"Even if such a bylaw were to be enacted, Lothian and Borders Police are clearly sceptical about the enforcement of a bylaw within the city, particularly when no such similar bylaw exists in neighbouring authorities covered by the police force."

Mr Inch also said a local ban was unlikely to prevent people getting hold of an airgun illegally.

Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill has written to Home Secretary Jacqui Smith, proposing that Scotland should pilot a licensing scheme on behalf of the UK to restrict airguns to those involved in pest control or shooting clubs.

There have been repeated calls for action in recent years, particularly after a 46 per cent rise was reported in airgun-related crime in Lothian and Borders over the last six years.

Former MSP Tommy Sheridan launched a bid for a Scotland-wide ban, supported by the family of Graeme Baxter, from East Calder, who died instantly when he was shot through the heart in 2006.

Doreen Graham, a spokeswoman for the Scottish SPCA, said there was also a problem with airgun attacks on animals.

"A local (ban] would go someway towards helping, but it would be easier to tackle this nationally," she said."

These are weapons – not toys."

A Scottish Government spokeswoman said: "The Justice Secretary has made clear that he believes it is time for the comprehensive review of our firearms controls and laws. We will continue to press the UK Government to either act or devolve the powers to let the Scottish Government act."





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  • Last Updated: 05 August 2008 12:41 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Airguns
 
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05/08/2008 12:07:59
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Smasher,

05/08/2008 12:22:47
They managed to ban fox hunting and smoking but they can't ban lethal guns? Unbelievable!!!! This country is in a right old mess and the clowns in charge should be lined up and shot in the goolies with an air gun.
3

Arrow,

edinburgh 05/08/2008 12:27:12
could we ask, if selected, one of the three candidates for the labour party in scotland leadership contest would support the ban on air weapons irrespective of the views of the Westminster party? or is it still looking over the shoulder or phoning WEstminster for instructions on whether to jump and if so how high?
4

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

05/08/2008 12:28:56
If an adult wants to buy an airgun to plink beer cans off a wall then they should be free to do so provided that they take heed of public safety.

Once again, the problem isn't the objects, the airguns, but the fools who misuse them. Let's deal with the real problem: those idiots.
5

The Hallucinist,

05/08/2008 12:30:43
No legal, political and practical difficulties when some little ned abuses the use of an airgun. He'll be put in a young offenders institution for 6 months and a couple of holidays to Spain.
6

alex paterson,

edinburgh 05/08/2008 12:35:50
Airguns are no problem its the clowns that misuse them.
7

Henpen,

Edinburgh 05/08/2008 12:45:17
#6 & 4 agree - no ban is needed, just licensing the same as all other firearms.

Oh yes, and sorting out the muppets that misuse them at the moment...

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308,

West Coast 05/08/2008 12:47:54
If the law as it stands were enforced correctly there would be less trouble with air guns. Some time ago firemen were being fired at by an idiot no-one reported the fact to the police. Discharging a firearm in a public place is a crime punishable by five years inside, yet no one including members of the public reported this.

Bans only affect law abiding citizens, you only have to look at the crime figures involving handguns, now banned for the law abiding to see just how effective they are.
9

Statsman,

Edinburgh 05/08/2008 13:02:43
Hey council. Any chance of repairing the pavements and roads? It's what you are PAID TO DO.
10

Ron D,

Enybru 05/08/2008 13:18:10
How many animals are killed or injured on the roads or suffer through mistreatment by their owners?

I think a ban on pets would go further towards preventing animal cruelty.
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permit resident,

05/08/2008 13:44:02
back home in Nothern Ireland in order to have any form of firearms you have to hold a valid gun licsence and those under the age of 18 (who are under age) can use them for competition shooting only or at a shooting range under their parents licsence - the holder of the licsence always has to be present when the gun is used and at all other times it has to be locked in a gun safe which is bolted to a solid, load bearing wall - why can't the council/parliment just enforce it in this manner - surely with the up-surge in attacks by thugs on people and animals with this instrument it shouldn't be too hard to change the law scotland wide? or am i missing something here?
12

Mikey,

05/08/2008 14:55:33
There are thousands of airguns in circulation. Does Edinburgh council think that by banning them, all problems will disappear?

Another example of cloud cuckoo land thinking!

There's a simple solution. If you see a ned with an airgun, take it off him and shoot him with it!
13

Dan,

Englandshire 05/08/2008 15:14:05
Again, it's a case of anything gun shaped is bad and so MUST be banned. Totally ignoring the fact that without someone to operate it, an airgun is just a collections of pipes and springs, no more offensive than tin opener.
Ban people - you'll soon see the crime rate drop.
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Jwil,

05/08/2008 17:27:45
A BAN on airguns in Edinburgh is set to be ruled out by council chiefs after they decided it would lead to "legal, political and practical difficulties".

Look on the bright side. It might save a few lives.

How ill your cosciences be when another person is killed or maimed? Will you be able to sleep at night?
15

calum,

05/08/2008 18:32:52
Has Mario Antoinette and the Sellotape muncher eloped together? Told you he/she/it was one and the same!!
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tumshie heid,

05/08/2008 20:00:37
#14 People are killed daily by falling off ladders,tripping in the street and many other daft things. Should we ban ladders?Pavements?
Please don't post such reactionary drivel!
If, as others have said the existing laws were applied then there wouldn't be a problem.
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Bascule,

Embra 06/08/2008 07:34:24
air guns are brilliant. My grandfather showed me how to shoot one, then my father taught me to shoot real guns when I was five. (Yes, you wet liberal ninny, five). Owning and using a gun is all about self control, discipline and focus. Teaching children how to use weapons, taking responsibility for their actions, and gaining the respect of adults, are valuable lessons in life.
Slightly better than sitting in their bedrooms having their souls eroded with (c)rap, or hanging in the 'hood wit' de homies.

 

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